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And it is IIRC in both the R5RS and R6RS 17:09:10 Kajtek [~nope@nat4-230.ghnet.pl] has joined #scheme 17:09:13 ampersandbox [~chatzilla@adsl-99-35-227-202.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:18:06 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-7.html#%_sec_4.2.6 see `(( foo ,(- 10 3)) ,@(cdr '(c)) . ,(car '(cons))) 17:18:07 http://tinyurl.com/6xwdows 17:18:37 which is equivalent to `(( foo ,(- 10 3)) ,@(cdr '(c)) unquote (car '(cons))) 17:21:30 *nods* 17:23:31 gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #scheme 17:44:35 turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:46:30 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-190-136.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:46:51 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-113-199.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 17:47:27 -!- pjb` [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:51:23 denisw [~denisw@dslb-188-102-107-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 17:51:50 dostoyevsky [sck@oemcomputer.oerks.de] has joined #scheme 17:52:32 lisppaste [~lisppaste@tiger.common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 17:53:56 specbot [~specbot@tiger.common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 17:54:56 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #scheme 17:57:16 -!- lisppaste [~lisppaste@tiger.common-lisp.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:57:32 -!- specbot [~specbot@tiger.common-lisp.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:16:46 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@g132123.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 18:23:00 -!- replore_ [~replore@ntkngw304073.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:56 arcfide [1000@c-69-136-7-94.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:29:10 Euthy [~euthy@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 18:30:19 -!- lbc [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:39 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 18:47:42 djcb [~user@a88-114-88-233.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 18:48:03 aoh: The paper you want is "Fortifying Macros". 18:48:05 aoh: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/scheme/pubs/icfp10-cf.pdf 18:49:50 -!- denisw [~denisw@dslb-188-102-107-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:52 woonie [~woonie@nusnet-249-112.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #scheme 19:30:55 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:42:00 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:57:25 blackened [~blackened@ip-89-102-29-120.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 20:03:10 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 20:07:27 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #scheme 20:08:48 -!- y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-169-125.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:04 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-169-125.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:27 y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:10:48 pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:11:05 -!- pothos_ is now known as pothos 20:12:48 -!- y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:09 y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:13:29 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:53 pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:14:16 -!- pothos_ is now known as pothos 20:15:16 -!- y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:38 y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-165-121.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:18:15 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-178-24.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:22 -!- fds [~frankie@ajax.webvictim.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:18:28 fds [~frankie@ajax.webvictim.net] has joined #scheme 20:19:12 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-178-24.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:22:47 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 20:24:15 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 20:29:11 francogrex [~user@109.130.137.79] has joined #scheme 20:29:30 Hi, who experienced with this before http://planet.plt-scheme.org/display.ss?package=fra.plt&owner=jaymccarthy ? 20:33:06 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-113-199.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 20:37:50 Not me, but you should ask your question as if somebody with that knowledge is in the channel, or will arrive in the channel in the next day or two. 20:38:42 Then, be prepared to wait. Or read logs occasionally. 20:45:16 cky: ok, I simply wanted to know what parts are plt specific (not standard R6 or R5)... 20:46:23 HG`` [~HG@p5DC055EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:50:10 -!- HG` [~HG@p579F760A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:53:44 francogrex: Looks old; Jay later did datalog, which is part of the core distribution now. 20:54:04 Still, if your goal is to translate code to CL, then you won't have an easy time doing that. 20:55:28 eli: ok thanks. I won't have easy time because it's plt specific right? 20:56:14 Usually, that's true, because Racket (not "plt") is much bigger than Scheme. 20:56:34 In your case it's more true, since you have the extra Scheme<-->CL delta to jump over. 20:59:23 ok; maybe there can be a wrapper, to call Racket from common lisp... I'll see, my aim is only to understand how a code for relational algebra is implemented (a database engine). 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