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Thanks. 06:33:40 jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-133.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:33:43 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.48.61] has quit [Quit: head home] 06:37:13 I found TYS to be a really good crash course for programmers coming from another paradigm. 06:43:15 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-133.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:44:57 hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 06:50:58 I would have advised r5rs, it can be read in less than 120 minutes. 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I not understand the book's name mean. 15:04:41 what is the name? 15:05:01 This book's name is "Teach Yourself Scheme in Fixnum Days" 15:05:16 "fixnum" means an integer that fits into a general-purpose register 15:05:23 do you know what that is? 15:05:24 What does the "Fixnum Dsys" mean? 15:05:39 Thanks. 15:05:54 so it's usually below 2^32 - 1 days 15:06:15 sorry. 15:06:17 2^31 - 1 15:07:06 the title is a joke, and a pun 15:07:18 because there are books like, "teach yourself X in Y days/hours" 15:07:30 o_o 15:08:15 stupid numerical tower 15:08:16 i hate it 15:09:14 now i have to write rational-containing-complex-numbers-to-float-complex 15:09:20 tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 15:09:46 weirdo: "fixnum" is length of a general-purpose register? 15:09:53 "complex-rational" then. 15:09:54 willian, no 15:10:16 it's a number that fits inside it 15:10:16 willian: it is just a number of fixed bit width. 15:10:53 willian: compare to "arbitrary precision number." 15:14:42 zane [~zane@mail.barackobama.com] has joined #scheme 15:16:34 Thanks very much. 15:16:34 -!- willian [~god@1.80.35.119] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:18:41 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.35.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:02 -!- soveran_ is now known as soveran 15:25:52 sunil_ [~sunil@117.202.132.25] has joined #scheme 15:32:47 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 15:35:55 realitygrill [~realitygr@c-24-5-7-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:47:51 HG` [~HG@p579F7D90.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 15:54:27 -!- sunil_ [~sunil@117.202.132.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:57:24 -!- genieliu [~genieliu@59.78.62.120] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:02:39 confab_ [~ubuntu@c-24-10-60-185.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:04:20 -!- confab [180a3cb9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.10.60.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:06:31 -!- confab_ is now known as confab 16:11:42 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@80.90.116.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:12:09 -!- aehrisch [~aehrisch@vhost.knauel.org] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 16:12:19 -!- elly [~elly@atheme/member/elly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:13:09 aehrisch [~aehrisch@vhost.knauel.org] has joined #scheme 16:13:55 -!- Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:22:26 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 16:28:12 elly [~elly@atheme/member/elly] has joined #scheme 16:28:33 -!- zanes [~zane@108-90-245-81.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 16:28:33 -!- zane is now known as zanes 16:31:57 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:05 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 16:35:58 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 16:36:09 -!- PreciousMetals [~Heart@unaffiliated/colours] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:38:22 PreciousMetals [~Heart@unaffiliated/colours] has joined #scheme 16:45:26 Precious1etals [~Heart@pool-74-96-114-33.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 16:46:55 -!- PreciousMetals [~Heart@unaffiliated/colours] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:53:39 -!- aehrisch [~aehrisch@vhost.knauel.org] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 17:00:13 aehrisch [~aehrisch@vhost.knauel.org] has joined #scheme 17:01:24 jdfjklajkl [~paulh@244-15-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #scheme 17:04:00 Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has joined #scheme 17:25:43 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 17:26:25 -!- jrapdx [~jra@c-98-246-157-58.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:29:15 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-89.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:32:18 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:32:55 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 17:33:51 turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:42:51 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:03:50 jrapdx [~jra@74-95-41-205-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 18:16:45 PokeTron [~PokeTron@unaffiliated/poketron] has joined #scheme 18:17:16 -!- PokeTron [~PokeTron@unaffiliated/poketron] has left #scheme 18:23:24 survery [~thomas@dslb-178-007-116-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 18:23:29 -!- survery [~thomas@dslb-178-007-116-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #scheme 18:28:49 pumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 18:31:47 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:35:13 phao [~phao@pontenova.dpi.ufv.br] has joined #scheme 18:37:13 is the "load" function portable and reliable? 18:38:57 -!- phao [~phao@pontenova.dpi.ufv.br] has quit [Client Quit] 18:39:22 It's in r5rs. 18:44:55 -!- zanes [~zane@mail.barackobama.com] has quit [] 18:45:39 -!- pumpkin is now known as copumpkin 18:47:52 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-179-133.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:53:10 zanes [~zane@mail.barackobama.com] has joined #scheme 18:56:54 mmc [~michal@93.56.118.36] has joined #scheme 18:57:06 pjb: it doesn't follow that it is portable and reliable. 18:57:06 -!- mmc [~michal@93.56.118.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:10 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:58:26 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 19:02:36 weirdo, no. LOAD is a bug. 19:02:44 littlebobby [~bob@unaffiliated/littlebobby] has joined #scheme 19:02:56 :( 19:03:16 is there anything portable that can serve its purpose? 19:03:23 Nope. 19:13:01 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:14:34 in my impl, i have introduced the notion of incremental compilation, e.g. it is possible to use the same interned quoted conses across multiple evaluations 19:14:43 thought i have yet to intern each cons separately 19:15:11 -!- zanes [~zane@mail.barackobama.com] has quit [] 19:16:21 mmc [~michal@93.56.118.36] has joined #scheme 19:16:32 -!- mmc [~michal@93.56.118.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:37 pumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 19:19:05 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:19:09 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-176.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:21:50 -!- pumpkin is now known as copumpkin 19:24:16 Zol [~Zolomon@li152-84.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 19:31:05 mmc [~michal@93.56.118.36] has joined #scheme 19:34:31 jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-133.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 19:45:39 Riastradh: why is load a bug? 19:52:48 crap. i can't find a good bigint library for javascript 19:52:53 weirdo: you're writing a scheme in js right? 19:52:54 oh 19:52:55 i found two, both of them suck in different way 19:52:56 there you go 19:52:58 :) 19:53:11 confab, yes 19:53:36 i'm gonna use Riastradh's riaxpander for hygienic macros 19:53:47 then adapt CLOS and make green threads 19:54:04 but so far, i'm not done with r5rs, not to mention SRFI 19:56:26 -!- joast [~rick@76.178.178.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:56:45 oh my, oh my. due to so much generic dispatch, numerics will be a crawl 19:57:05 maybe i'll go for a dispatch table later on 20:00:04 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-89.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:05 kuribas [~user@d54C43831.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 20:09:53 too bad you can't use javascript's +. 20:10:19 or you could, if you didn't want to support bignums. 20:10:24 chicken does that. 20:10:50 your fixnum range would still be pretty good (+/- 2*52) 20:10:59 2**52 rather 20:13:50 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 20:14:07 now i dunno how to check whether multiplication will overflow 20:14:35 maybe like: 20:14:40 xy < z 20:15:01 In floating-point? Easy: check whether the result exceeded 2^52. The result will still be representible in the same floating-point format, even if it has been rounded. 20:15:10 oh. thanks! 20:15:30 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-133.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:17:39 if you are interested in efficiency with current js engines, you should use 32-bit fixnums... 20:18:11 i'm not 20:18:15 it's what they optimize for. and a x & 0xffffffff is unambiguous. 20:18:42 i'd rather support the full numerical tower than be efficient 20:19:23 joast [~rick@76.178.178.72] has joined #scheme 20:22:11 ASau [~user@95-25-192-7.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 20:22:39 -!- pandeiro [~pandeiro@bd21cfb9.virtua.com.br] has quit [Quit: Thanks, fellas] 20:22:59 besides, my ints overflow instead of being always bignums 20:23:03 of course, it's still slower 20:23:43 and i short-circuit when ctors (js terminology) of both arguments in a binary promotion function are the same 20:24:33 weirdo: thanks for the sample js code you showed me some days ago, BTW (I saw them some hours later and forgot to thank you). 20:24:44 mario-goulart, no problem :-) 20:24:49 you want to see the compiler itself? 20:25:04 If it is open source, sure! 20:25:12 it doesn't have yet a copyright license 20:25:42 but it will be mit/x11 20:25:47 http://piec.itcrew.pl/seaking 20:25:47 Cool! 20:26:22 unless i can find a shorter license :-) 20:26:58 :-) 20:27:12 Very nice. Thanks, weirdo. 20:27:22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISC_license 20:27:24 :-) 20:28:41 you can run it as-is in racket 20:28:51 and with very minor modifications in other impls 20:29:05 i made it extra-sure it's pure r5rs with just one srfi which provides simple exception handling 20:35:24 actually i don't like many things about my impl 20:35:30 one of them is that there's so much JS code 20:35:45 i should have made some intermediate language that translates into JS, but has equivalent semantics 20:35:56 weirdo: shorter? 20:36:10 "I hereby place this into public domain." 20:36:22 ASau, public domain has no legal meaning in many jurisdiction 20:36:46 weirdo: it only matters in your place. 20:36:48 so i'd have to add "or when this is not available, i grant rights to.. yadda, yadda" 20:37:04 ASau, it matters for other people too, cause i want others to use it 20:37:10 Is "fsck" pronounced "fisk" or "eff-seek", by the way? 20:37:29 in Polish it's pronounced "ef-es-ce-ka" 20:37:30 :) 20:37:39 weirdo: if that matters, ISC, MIT, or BSD don't hold for some jurisdictions either. 20:37:42 *sjamaan* always pronounces it eff-suck 20:37:58 klutometis, `eff ess check' 20:37:59 weirdo: some countries deny "no warranty" licensing. 20:38:08 like where? 20:38:13 Like Germany. 20:38:26 It's true 20:38:37 :| 20:38:47 Also, all such OSS licences are controversial here. 20:38:49 You could use the Bremer Licenz if you're concerned about that - it's BSD sans "no warranty" clause iirc 20:38:49 i guess if someone from germany asks me, i can relicense it for them especially 20:38:55 weirdo, you probably mean that `dedications to the public domain have no legal significance in many jurisdictions'. I doubt whether any jurisdiction you care about lacks a notion of the public domain at all. 20:39:11 weirdo: that means, all of them _may_ be not valid here. 20:39:25 There's also the "unlicense", which is public domain reworded to be legally valid ~everywhere 20:39:50 ASau: Interesting, since IIRC the GPL has been upheld in German court multiple times 20:39:58 sjamaan: but not in Russia. 20:40:20 ASau: GPL also has "no warranty" 20:40:33 oh, unlicense sounds sweet 20:40:42 sjamaan: it has other clauses that sound conflicting law here. 20:41:07 weirdo: unlicense.org 20:41:19 i know already :) 20:41:26 sjamaan: it _may_ be that things have changed again recently. 20:41:46 Hard to keep up, eh? :) 20:42:04 sjamaan: you can't keep pace with local jugglers unless you're lawyer or similar. 20:42:16 yeah, it's horrible 20:42:32 Riastradh: BTW, I succeeded in building T 3.1 on SunOS4. There are still some things not clear about T. Would you mind to send an empty e-mail to peter@mirabilix.nl, so I can ask you specific questions by e-mail? 20:43:33 pbusser2: Nice homepage XD 20:43:58 sjamaan: Oh yes. 20:44:10 Is it related to Mirabile/MirOS somehow? 20:44:34 sjamaan: Not at all. 20:44:54 phew! ;) 20:46:04 sjamaan: Fixed it. 20:46:14 nice fix :) 20:46:15 MirOS? 20:46:18 hussaibi [~hussaibi@CPE00222d3a5d80-CM00222d3a5d7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 20:46:24 Is that our new target platform? 20:46:29 ASau: The OS formerly known as MirBSD 20:46:51 Though I haven't seen any bulk build for it yet. 20:46:57 hussaibi_ [~hussaibi@CPE00222d3a5d80-CM00222d3a5d7c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 20:47:16 carbocalm [~user@38.99.165.166] has joined #scheme 20:47:40 does it make sense for me to jump to JS toplevel when the stack is almost to run out, or is there a better way? 20:48:21 it isn't especially reliable 20:48:26 across browsers, that is 20:49:53 choas [~lars@p5792C7BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has 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