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Better to take directly the formula and transcribe it. 02:54:03 yes, that's what happened to me. and the book doesn't give you the name 02:55:09 alcuadrado: nowadays, there's google and wolfram.com 02:57:06 -!- zmv [~daniel@c9533906.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:57:28 hahaha, true 03:01:01 duckduckgo.com 03:05:55 -!- thoolihan [~Tim@50.51.30.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:18:50 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 03:23:54 -!- samth [~samth@c-24-128-51-63.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:27:04 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-61.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:30:51 republican_devil [~g@pool-74-111-197-135.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:31:44 -!- kfx_god_dad [4a6fc587@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.111.197.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:50:06 -!- pchrist_ [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:50:35 dnolen 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thing is a monster. 06:12:18 A New Science is it ? something like that 06:12:26 neat guy 06:12:32 neat site too ! 06:18:39 achim [~achim@dslb-088-072-010-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 06:18:54 -!- achim [~achim@dslb-088-072-010-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #scheme 06:22:43 boo? 06:33:08 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@c-71-192-163-167.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 06:33:29 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:34:19 "A New Kind of Science" 06:36:23 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-116-169.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 06:37:02 thanks 06:37:09 I've been reading that for 6 months now or so 06:37:16 just insane with all the patterns and images. 06:37:21 I like his obsessions. 06:37:37 sometimes he gets a bit big "Now, the pattern for the Universe will of course be ..." 06:37:53 a bit adolescent at times, but all in all, that's part of genius ! 06:38:28 I've not derived any New science from it YET - but it's interesting. 06:38:34 he certainly plugs mathematica a lot ! lol 06:38:44 watch it be a Mathematica ad in disguise ! jk jk 06:39:09 now, Wolfram.com is a most amazing organized effort though I do say. 06:39:29 I wonder if Wolfram is still alive and if he teaches. 06:39:39 I might actually go to that school for just his classes. 06:40:06 some people seek univ's for degrees- I've always been a fan of you attend JUST in part to gain access to the faculty. 06:47:25 z0d [~z0d@unaffiliated/z0d] has joined #scheme 06:48:56 -!- aoh [~aki@85.23.168.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51:14 -!- asumu [~at@2001:470:b:b7:21c:26ff:fe06:5b57] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53:10 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-175-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54:27 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54:32 OneBraveHog: If you ask Dilbert, most CEO are braindead PHB, so by 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deal with Emacs? 19:25:56 qizwiz` [~user@ppp-70-245-65-87.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 19:29:16 who says you have to deal with emacs? 19:29:34 The implementation forces me to use Emacs to program 19:29:58 I doubt it 19:30:12 use whatever text editor you like 19:30:35 But to load it into the interpreter I need Emacs to start it up and then I can use it 19:30:53 Does it even matter what form of Scheme I use? 19:30:54 you seem very sure, so I guess I won't argue 19:31:51 Isn't there just one Scheme standard? 19:32:21 if you stick strictly to the standard, it doesn't matter. But the standard is pretty minimalist 19:32:44 are you doing this for fun, or for a course, or what? 19:32:50 No, there are lots of Scheme standards, and I'm rather puzzled by your conclusion that you need Emacs to start MIT Scheme. 19:33:35 Well it starts with prompts to type C-h t to get an Emacs tutorial 19:33:54 But on the startup screen when I type in (number? 1) 19:33:55 Oh, are you using MIT Scheme on Windows? 19:33:58 it return nothing 19:34:01 It is pushed a lot, but you don't really need to go there. 19:34:01 No, OSX 19:34:37 If you have installed MIT Scheme, and you simply run `scheme', you can get at a REPL without Emacs. 19:35:25 how? 19:35:39 Maybe you're using the .app bundle; I don't know anything about that. You may be able to run `/path/to/mit-scheme.app/Resources/MacOS/mit-scheme' or something instead of `scheme' in that case. 19:35:45 I apologize, I have no clue how to use this 19:37:00 got it, it's in the app contents 19:37:20 mit-scheme.app/Resources/mit-scheme 19:38:05 In order to evaluate (number? 1) in Edwin, you need to tell Edwin that you want to evaluate it. You do this by typing `C-x C-e'. 19:38:25 thanks 19:38:33 And you learn that by doing what Edwin suggests and typing `C-h m' to list some commands. 19:39:49 While that may attribute to my stupidity, I will remain using this from the terminal using what I found earlier 19:39:51 qizwiz [~user@ppp-70-245-65-87.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 19:44:22 -!- doomrobo [~doomrobo@cpe-68-174-188-146.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:45:34 -!- homie [~levent.gu@xdsl-84-44-178-222.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:46:59 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-116-169.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 19:51:11 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-190-197.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:57:51 githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has joined #scheme 20:01:04 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@a91-152-135-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:01:48 stis [~stis@host-95-201-66-170.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #scheme 20:06:05 ijp [~user@host109-154-194-139.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 20:07:01 pdlogan [~patrick@174-25-37-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 20:09:52 peterhil [~peterhil@a91-152-135-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 20:15:16 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:17:38 -!- HG`` [~HG@p5DC04FBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:23:19 -!- stis [~stis@host-95-201-66-170.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25:49 teurastaja_ [~Samuel@modemcable182.177-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 20:50:21 -!- DT`` [~Feeock@net-93-149-45-136.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Quit: ] 20:57:37 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@128.91.39.26] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:25 jcowan [c6b912cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.185.18.207] has joined #scheme 20:58:44 coi 21:02:45 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:08:35 -!- stchang [~stchang@login.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:11:14 -!- shachaf [~shachaf@208.69.183.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:03 stchang [~stchang@login.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 21:13:40 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196.215.145.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:14:14 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 21:14:56 shachaf [~shachaf@204.109.63.130] has joined #scheme 21:24:59 what programs have you (anyone) developed in scheme? 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