00:00:23 ymasory_ [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:01:42 alcuadrado [~alcuadrad@host73.200-45-163.telecom.net.ar] has joined #scheme 00:02:30 Hi there! Once someone in here helped me to configure vim for scheme, but I lost my .vimrc, can anyone help me with that? :) 00:02:45 I know most of you use emacs of course 00:14:10 :set lisp 00:14:40 yep, but i want it for .rkt files only 00:14:56 au BufNewFile,BufRead *.rkt,*.rktl set ft=scheme 00:15:07 thanks :) 00:15:09 ~/.vim/ftplugin/scheme.vim, put in whatever 00:15:17 filetype on 00:15:18 filetype indent on 00:15:18 filetype plugin on 00:15:19 great! 00:15:26 one of these lines makes vim read the ~/.vim/ftplugin directory 00:15:52 you cuold set the ft to racket if you want racket specific settings too 00:17:20 yeah, I see 00:17:23 really thanks man 00:26:52 rramsden [~rramsden@173.180.109.6] has joined #scheme 00:39:07 -!- bugQ [~bug@c-67-186-255-54.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44:01 bokr [~eduska@109.110.37.149] has joined #scheme 00:45:57 bugQ [~bug@c-67-186-255-54.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:50:19 ftplugin ftw 01:01:00 aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 01:19:07 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-61.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 01:26:09 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-96-194.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:51:09 Nisstyre [~nisstyre@109.74.204.224] has joined #scheme 01:51:09 -!- ymasory_ [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:52:05 -!- minsa [~minsa@c-24-5-121-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:06:48 megajosh2 [~megajosh2@unaffiliated/megajosh2] has joined #scheme 02:07:02 -!- megajosh2 [~megajosh2@unaffiliated/megajosh2] has left #scheme 02:10:16 -!- Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:44 ymasory_ [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:25:51 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-61.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25:57 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-61.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 02:27:04 astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun38.ic.ucsc.edu] has joined #scheme 02:28:10 -!- grimboy_ [~grimboy@bcm-128-232-247-43.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:28:42 nego [~nego@c-76-16-30-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:29:10 -!- alcuadrado [~alcuadrad@host73.200-45-163.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:39:25 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-61.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:49:35 MengZhang [~MengZhang@222.69.214.176] has joined #scheme 03:12:30 -!- Aune [4f885aa1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.136.90.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:14:57 -!- nego [~nego@c-76-16-30-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:15:54 -!- MengZhang [~MengZhang@222.69.214.176] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43:10 Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.26.44] has joined #scheme 03:43:59 Hi all! 03:51:05 ayup ayup 04:01:09 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:06:36 -!- ymasory_ [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:10:12 -!- tauntaun [~Crumpet@ool-44c711b3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 04:13:38 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:30:10 -!- Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.26.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:34:02 Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.26.44] has joined #scheme 04:44:42 -!- poindontcare [~user@cloudbovina.bovinasancta.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:12 poindontcare [~user@cloudbovina.bovinasancta.com] has joined #scheme 04:53:36 -!- bokr [~eduska@109.110.37.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:03:29 -!- Pepe_ [~ppjet@bouah.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:08:48 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:29:00 -!- blueadept [~blueadept@unaffiliated/blueadept] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:29:20 -!- bugQ [~bug@c-67-186-255-54.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:36:25 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-96-194.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:36:49 Pepe__ [~ppjet@bouah.net] has joined #scheme 05:40:26 -!- Pepe__ is now known as Pepe_ 05:46:21 -!- Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.26.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48:24 aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 05:56:53 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02:04 bokr [~eduska@109.110.37.149] has joined #scheme 06:25:04 -!- elly [debian-tor@atheme/member/elly] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31:38 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 06:34:52 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-161-77-57.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 06:57:32 MengZhang [~MengZhang@183.193.5.13] has joined #scheme 06:59:27 -!- MengZhang [~MengZhang@183.193.5.13] has left #scheme 07:25:31 MengZhang [~MengZhang@183.193.5.13] has joined #scheme 07:29:00 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:36:18 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:01:13 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:02:20 -!- rramsden [~rramsden@173.180.109.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:09:55 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 08:11:51 -!- bokr [~eduska@109.110.37.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:18:41 aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 08:23:40 -!- monqy [~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: hello] 08:24:39 -!- MengZhang [~MengZhang@183.193.5.13] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:33:45 What's a good way to cluster a set of numbers such that the relative difference for one end of the scale if higher than the other? 08:35:40 For example, in a benchmark with times 10, 14, 15, 75, 100, 125, and we want to discretize this to 3 groups "fast," "medium," "slow." 08:35:48 if higher? 08:36:04 In this case it's running times, so smaller is better. 08:37:01 Now, naively grouping by distance would probably put 10, 14, 15 together as "fast," 75 as medium, and 100, 125 as slow. 08:37:36 so you'll need to scan through the list, noting the minimum and maximum, and then scan through again, pushing numbers onto their appropriate lists (small, medium or high)? Would that do it, or am I thinking of something else? 08:37:42 But the 4-point difference between 10 and 14 is relatively more important than the 25-point difference between 75 and 100. 08:37:49 If you expect it to follow an exponential curve, take logarithms. 08:38:05 A much better grouping is: fast: 10, medium: 14, 15, slow: 75, 100, 125 08:38:30 (With logarithms, you effectively consider the distance as a fraction of the current value.) 08:38:39 http://pastie.org/1987763 08:38:46 easy to read? 08:39:30 Jafet: I can try that, but if I don't know a priori whether it will follow an exponential curve? 08:39:33 That looks like jumbled-up FORTH. 08:39:48 foof: many things in the world tend to, so it's a fair bet 08:41:11 And if it doesn't, just convert using another scale. You get to keep your linear-distance clustering. 08:58:15 Jafet: That gave better results than I expected on the first try :) 09:01:41 masm [~masm@2.80.154.246] has joined #scheme 09:04:26 jewel [~jewel@196-209-224-184.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 09:10:18 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-97.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 09:11:16 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 09:14:56 bokr [~eduska@109.110.37.149] has joined #scheme 09:16:05 MengZhang [~MengZhang@222.69.214.176] has joined #scheme 09:25:10 aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 09:44:49 -!- MengZhang [~MengZhang@222.69.214.176] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:31 -!- astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun38.ic.ucsc.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07:45 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 10:10:33 foof: median-cut quantization comes to mind 10:11:16 .. but 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[~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 22:35:47 -!- Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.26.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:25 i thought about using dynamic-wind for converting to cps then execute then convert back to "normal" style but im not good enough for that 22:37:03 how is cps conversion done in both ways? 22:37:33 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38:19 aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 22:39:58 all i got was a mark feeley paper on cps+closure conversion scheme to scheme to c 22:40:15 it lacks details 22:41:28 Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.26.44] has joined #scheme 22:42:58 alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 22:44:18 :-* 22:44:21 Oops 22:44:24 Heh 22:44:46 (Not even wrong channel, wrong window) 22:45:29 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-23.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:37 fds: Lol. 22:51:28 I do love you guys too, just not in that way.. 22:58:04 teurastaja: Even if you did a cps transform on the expression, surely you'd still need a way to get the implicit continuation from the underlying scheme 22:59:26 Shamiq [~Adium@c-71-197-146-85.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:59:56 so I'm not sure what you'd be gaining by replacing one way of making that available by another 22:59:59 newbie question here: I'm trying to get up and running with SCIP on osx 10.6 23:00:12 what source/binaries should i download? 23:00:51 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-103.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:29 you can do most of SICP in any scheme, but I think only MIT Scheme, and possibly Racket, have a form of the picture language 23:03:36 mit-scheme is the one used by the authors 23:03:54 does it have 10.6 binaries? the ones i'm seeing are for 10.5 23:03:59 http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/ 23:04:04 i could try to build it... 23:06:45 ymasory 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