00:05:39 erjiang [~erjiang@2001:18e8:2:244:a6ba:dbff:fe4f:c55d] has joined #scheme 00:08:18 rudybot: (let () (define (f x) (set! x 1)) (let ((x 0)) (f x) x) (f 2)) 00:08:18 jonrafkind: your sandbox is ready 00:08:18 jonrafkind: Done. 00:09:20 jonrafkind: You forgot to return "x". 00:09:58 huh 00:09:59 -!- erjiang [~erjiang@2001:18e8:2:244:a6ba:dbff:fe4f:c55d] has quit [Client Quit] 00:10:09 x is the last expression in the let 00:10:31 Right, but the "let" is followed by a (f 2), which returns an unspecified value. 00:11:41 oh whoops 00:14:24 geoffhill [~geoffhill@wireless-165-124-145-224.nuwlan.northwestern.edu] has joined #scheme 00:19:41 ckrailo [~ckrailo@pool-173-71-46-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 00:33:06 pnkfelix [~Adium@c-68-82-87-23.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:38:38 -!- masm [~masm@bl19-153-57.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:24 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.201.97] has joined #scheme 00:45:33 -!- shardz 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If I want to interpret something that isn't an s-expression form, how should I do this? chop up each white space separated chunk of text, and put them in a list? 07:11:08 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 07:14:10 jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 07:22:31 amoe [~amoe@cpc1-brig13-0-0-cust658.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 07:29:51 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.201.97] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 07:30:24 -!- Euthydemus [~euthydemu@vaxjo4.213.cust.blixtvik.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:30:43 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.201.97] has joined #scheme 07:32:39 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-166.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 07:36:54 Euthydemus [~euthydemu@vaxjo4.213.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #scheme 07:39:45 lbc_ [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 07:43:52 rob___ [~rob@happybox.org] has joined #scheme 07:51:33 -!- jrt4 [~jrtaylori@207-118-45-56.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59:03 jewel [~jewel@196-209-224-248.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 08:02:26 mathk__ [~mathk@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-212-79.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 08:03:56 -!- X-Scale [email@89.180.192.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:06:32 -!- mathk [~mathk@194.177.61.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:06:32 -!- mathk__ is now known as mathk 08:11:43 -!- pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-d9bfca0e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:13:04 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.201.97] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 08:18:41 pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-d9bfc074.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 08:18:49 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/05/02/the-context-sensitivity-of-c%E2%80%99s-grammar-revisited/ 08:18:49 http://tinyurl.com/3tdscu7 08:22:06 -!- rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27:23 rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has joined #scheme 08:29:54 very interesting ohwow 08:30:20 -!- chris-kun [~chris-kun@fsf/member/saiko-chriskun] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 08:42:55 -!- LN^^ is now known as LN^off 08:47:18 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50:19 there is bigloo scheme code in the v8 javascript engine's repository. 08:50:21 good times. 08:51:35 -!- eli [~eli@129.10.115.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:57:03 -!- monqy [~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: hello] 09:01:01 chegibari [aaa@151.76.74.40] has joined #scheme 09:01:07 Hello 09:01:31 Why does the #algol channel has a link to drscheme/racket? 09:01:44 Is there an algol implementation as racket module? 09:02:53 yes 09:07:49 http://dvanhorn.lambda-calcul.us/2011/05/01/list-challenge/ 09:10:22 mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 09:11:31 damn it vim indents if statements really weirdly 09:23:45 _danb_ [~user@124-168-14-8.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 09:24:46 stis [~stis@host-90-235-22-69.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #scheme 09:26:05 lewis1711: thanks 09:26:09 -!- chegibari [aaa@151.76.74.40] has quit [] 09:26:13 what did I do 09:26:15 oh 09:26:23 I said yes. I am a really good contributor 09:39:54 eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 09:46:12 hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 09:47:38 masm [~masm@bl19-153-57.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 10:04:58 -!- ijp [~user@host109-154-194-141.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:31 ijp [~user@host109-154-194-141.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 10:10:54 When I press "y" in debugger, to see the stack's state, I see this line: "(offset 40). 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13:03:37 (debug)? 13:05:55 -!- LN^off is now known as LN^^ 13:06:01 ecraven: (debug) enters the command-line editor 13:06:08 I want the edwin's editor 13:06:25 (id est, the editor from *debug* buffer) 13:13:23 -!- userinit_ [~Ident@117.192.108.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:13:44 -!- stis__ [~stis@host-90-235-11-73.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:14 kuribas [~user@d54C43D8A.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 13:20:28 leo2007 [~leo@2402:f000:5:2901:225:4bff:fea9:b9e4] has joined #scheme 13:23:37 the only way to enter the edwin's debugger is to insert a bug, for example an unknown variable to be evaluated 13:23:43 is there other way ? 13:25:33 userinit [~Ident@117.192.108.102] has joined #scheme 13:26:21 Geef [~Geef@249.Red-83-33-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:27:48 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has joined #scheme 13:36:28 -!- astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun09.ic.ucsc.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:43:35 astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun09.ic.ucsc.edu] has joined #scheme 13:47:23 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-166.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51:49 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 13:55:57 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-166.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:02:04 -!- Intensity [GcftspiTkh@unaffiliated/intensity] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:07:35 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:18:54 -!- geoffhill [~geoffhill@wireless-165-124-145-224.nuwlan.northwestern.edu] has quit [Quit: geoffhill] 14:19:25 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has quit [Quit: dnolen] 14:28:59 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 14:34:58 -!- yell0 [yello@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:36:37 lbc_ [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 14:38:28 -!- lbc_ [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44:23 -!- achim [~achim@dslb-088-075-192-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:43 realitygrill [~realitygr@76.226.201.97] has joined #scheme 14:47:47 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-140.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 14:51:03 araujo [~araujo@190.75.195.55] has joined #scheme 14:51:03 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.75.195.55] has quit [Changing host] 14:51:03 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 14:53:04 -!- astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun09.ic.ucsc.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:57:05 yell0 [yello@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 15:00:11 -!- Caleb-- [thedude@bzq-109-64-208-190.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 15:00:18 ymasory [~ymasory@frank.ldc.upenn.edu] has joined #scheme 15:03:46 -!- yell0 [yello@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:08:37 ckrailo [~ckrailo@208.86.167.249] has joined #scheme 15:15:59 -!- hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:22 tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 15:39:20 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.108.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:03 http://pastebin.ca/2052904 15:45:37 Please, can you make me understand why the index grows 2 by 2 when evaluating that expression many times ? 15:46:05 -!- infid [~infid@rrcs-173-198-12-38.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:46:11 it creates only 1 promise, so I expected to return every time a promise with 1 greater than the previous call 15:46:27 who creates in that function another promise ? 15:47:02 infid [~infid@99-101-15-134.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 15:47:17 pdlogan [~patrick@174-25-37-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 15:47:26 peeq [~peeq@117.192.108.102] has joined #scheme 15:47:26 -!- peeq [~peeq@117.192.108.102] has quit [Changing host] 15:47:26 peeq [~peeq@unaffiliated/tqu] has joined #scheme 15:51:54 amoe: how do you exchange variable then? 15:52:06 amoe: by explicitly rebinding them? 15:52:16 amoe: that's possible, but it isn't much convenient. 15:56:45 -!- ijp [~user@host109-154-194-141.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:05 ijp [~user@host109-154-194-141.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 15:57:45 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 15:58:49 Fare [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 15:59:24 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 16:00:06 homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-72.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:02:48 -!- peeq [~peeq@unaffiliated/tqu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:59 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-72.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 16:03:32 aisa [~aisa@173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 16:05:00 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-166.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:05:00 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:05:24 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 16:09:44 -!- malorie [~bla@unaffiliated/malorie] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:04 malorie [~bla@chello084112144105.3.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #scheme 16:22:35 carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:24:13 -!- githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24:48 astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun07.ic.ucsc.edu] has joined #scheme 16:25:42 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:58 Intensity [kxdroiDJP5@unaffiliated/intensity] has joined #scheme 16:26:00 mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 16:28:31 userinit [~Ident@117.192.122.179] has joined #scheme 16:32:45 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:33:41 mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 16:33:50 -!- ndc [~ndc@99-40-71-132.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:36:22 -!- malorie [~bla@chello084112144105.3.11.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:42:52 erjiang [~erjiang@7.80.244.66.jest.smithvilledigital.net] has joined #scheme 16:47:41 -!- myu2 [~myu2@v051158.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48:26 saiko-chriskun [~chris-kun@fsf/member/saiko-chriskun] has joined #scheme 16:53:31 -!- leo2007 [~leo@2402:f000:5:2901:225:4bff:fea9:b9e4] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.3.50.1] 16:56:52 myu2 [~myu2@v051158.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 16:57:27 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.122.179] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 16:57:42 userinit [~Ident@117.192.122.179] has joined #scheme 16:57:42 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:58:01 mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 16:58:35 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.122.179] has quit [Client Quit] 16:58:45 userinit [~Ident@117.192.122.179] has joined #scheme 17:00:54 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:01:10 mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 17:01:28 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:01:46 mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has joined #scheme 17:05:50 viorel [~viorel@ool-44c70d72.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 17:06:25 hi everybody 17:06:39 is this the chatroom for the scheme programming language? 17:07:04 yea 17:08:18 ok, I just wanted to introduce myself, I'm a complete newbie, who is going through the book "The little schemer" right now 17:08:24 I don't have any questions 17:08:31 oO 17:09:29 That's fine, just idle. We all do it. 17:09:38 ok, thanks 17:09:48 they banned me from ##c++ today cause of nickchanges.. suckers 17:10:32 -!- LN^^ is now known as LN^off 17:10:56 LN^off: why do you change your nick? why not use /away? 17:11:05 viorel: that's a good book, enjoy 17:11:27 thanks elly 17:11:53 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.122.179] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:53 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-72.netcologne.de] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:53 -!- Geef [~Geef@249.Red-83-33-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:53 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-49-168.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- aspect [~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- chrissbx [~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- ohwow [mao@meine.xn--nck9azb.jp] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- Adrinael [~adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- milli [~milli@rasler.acmeps.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- ray [ray@xkcd-sucks.org] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:11:54 -!- weinholt [weinholt@debian/emeritus/weinholt] has quit [*.net *.split] 17:12:45 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-72.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 Geef [~Geef@249.Red-83-33-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-49-168.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 aspect [~aspect@abstracted-spleen.org] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 chrissbx [~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 ohwow [mao@meine.xn--nck9azb.jp] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 Adrinael [~adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 milli [~milli@rasler.acmeps.com] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 ray [ray@xkcd-sucks.org] has joined #scheme 17:12:45 weinholt [weinholt@debian/emeritus/weinholt] has joined #scheme 17:15:38 17:15:40 17:18:01 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:20:12 -!- viorel [~viorel@ool-44c70d72.dyn.optonline.net] has left #scheme 17:29:03 Riastradh [debian-tor@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 17:30:05 awaynicks are evil and deserve /kb 17:31:28 d/c 17:35:05 /nick pjb-not-aways-but-will-read-it-all-later 17:35:48 General request: Please don't use pastebin.ca; its operator is evidently an arsehole and refuses to let Tor users even view pastes. 17:39:18 ok! 17:42:17 githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has joined #scheme 17:45:21 Ah well, if it's the general who's asking... Sir! Yes, Sir! 17:45:48 Good, I'll let him know his orders have been acknowledged. 17:46:36 -!- astertronistic [~astertron@be-sun07.ic.ucsc.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:15 -!- vilfredo [~wilfred@cpc11-woki6-2-0-cust239.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:15 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 18:01:22 Ragnaroek [~chatzilla@p5B0C5837.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:03:36 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:03:43 -!- rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:06:24 userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has joined #scheme 18:09:52 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has quit [Client Quit] 18:11:03 -!- myu2 [~myu2@v051158.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:02 rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has joined #scheme 18:19:04 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-166.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:27:29 -!- Geef [~Geef@249.Red-83-33-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:28:58 choas [~lars@p5792C2ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:51:18 mmc [~michal@82-148-210-75.fiber.unet.nl] has joined #scheme 18:59:37 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 19:07:34 Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.17.231] has joined #scheme 19:08:02 stis [~stis@host-90-235-77-0.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #scheme 19:08:08 Hi all! 19:14:52 monqy [~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 19:17:43 Riastradh: IIRC, pastebin.ca is that broken service that tries to outsmart HTTP clients and fails to interpret User-Agent correctly 19:18:30 Interpret User-Agent? Why should the server ever do any interpretation of User-Agent...? 19:18:47 (I guess to work around broken versions of IE...) 19:19:22 So, why should the server ever... 19:19:36 Riastradh: that's the point. 19:19:54 Riastradh: it shouldn't make weird decisions on User-Agent value. 19:20:00 Ah. It fails to interpret User-Agent as an opaque string. 19:20:51 userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has joined #scheme 19:22:29 peterhil [~peterhil@a91-152-135-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 19:31:00 What bots are in this channel? 19:33:37 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:33:45 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-174-166.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:34:13 rudybot, incubot, minion, lisppaste, clog, ccl-logbot 19:34:13 Riastradh: ACTION slaps sepult, felipe, mmmulani, eno_, luz, mmc, blackened`, Pepe_, NNshag, MichaelRaskin, lolcow, clog, tjaway, araujo, tomaw__, elf, erg, Leonidas, cmatei, XTL, SharkBrain, nothingHappens, mhoye, dlouhy, Mr_Awesome, Checkie, dfeuer, olejorgenb, Obfuscate, bzzbzz, ski, emma, antoszka, ray, masm, rdd`, a-s`, Guest2003, bytecolor, rmrfchik, guenthr, saccade, kniu, gnomon, Len__, happycube, Edico, alaricsp, z0d, nutmegmagi, lisppaste, sstrickl, 19:34:26 (minion and lisppaste seem to be on vacation right now.) 19:34:28 Yikes, rudybot. 19:34:39 offby1, rudybot has gone nuts. 19:34:50 *cmatei* goes sit in the corner 19:35:12 superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-110-188.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 19:36:17 rudybot did you go nuts? 19:39:41 nteon [~nteon@c-98-210-195-105.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:39:52 Heh, I never noticed Patrick Macnee was in A View to a Kill. 19:46:48 Geef [~Geef@249.Red-83-33-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 19:48:22 gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.77.189.171] has joined #scheme 19:49:52 i ask again 19:50:10 http://pastebin.ca/2052904 19:50:49 why in these succesive calls of (sqrt-stream 2), the index of the promise grows by 2 , and not by 1 , as expected ? 19:52:08 atomx: Presumably MIT scheme creates one behind the scenes for it's own purposes. 19:53:01 ijp: yes, it creates 1, I see 19:53:08 but why, and where ? 19:53:26 for that you'll need to look at it's source code 19:53:56 ogh 19:54:02 I've problems installing check-errors (chicken egg), tells me « no such file or directory: "setup-helper" » 19:54:19 atomx, is there a reason you care about that number? 19:54:19 If I run that as scheme --batch-mode --load /tmp/foo.scm, they're sequential 19:54:34 but setup-helper _is_ installed. does someone have any suggestion ? 19:54:39 Pepe_: is your library path setup properly? 19:54:54 better to read about these fucking japaneses that want to make a collective suicide of all peuple on the earth 19:55:13 samth: yes. I want to understand what happens there 19:55:52 erjiang: I have CHICKEN_REPOSITORY set to $HOME/.local/lib/chicken/5, and setup-helper is installed there 19:56:50 Pepe_: I just ran into this today... let me look through my scrollback 19:56:52 atomx, I find that trying to understand how absolutely everything you see works is usually a route to not getting much done 19:58:13 erjiang: ty 20:00:00 atomx, can you use a paste site other than pastebin.ca, such as ? 20:00:24 yes 20:00:57 Pepe_: Apparently I didn't run into the same error as you did... probably can't help you there, sorry. 20:01:47 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:02:03 userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has joined #scheme 20:02:10 that's it 20:02:52 i sent... 20:03:18 lisppaste is on vacation; you'll have to announce the URI yourself. 20:03:37 oh 20:04:02 hum, actually this is probably not the first package on which I have this error 20:04:13 I had another one 1 or 2 days ago 20:04:18 i pasted it 4 times 20:04:23 http://paste.lisp.org/list/scheme 20:04:34 because I expected it to send a message here 20:04:41 atomx, what part of `you'll have to announce the URI yourself' don't you understand? 20:04:52 http://paste.lisp.org/list/scheme 20:05:01 That's not the URI to your paste. 20:05:02 http://paste.lisp.org/display/121718 20:05:25 this is the URI? 20:05:31 Yes. 20:05:47 OK, I pasted : Paste number 121718: strange index of promise 20:06:04 When MIT Scheme writes `#[promise 92]', that usually means you can refer back to the value it printed with the notation `#@92'. 20:06:16 the index grows from 2 by 2, not 1 by one 20:06:29 Similarly, when the REPL says `;Value 93: (1. . #[promise 92])', that means that you can refer back to the value it printed with the notation `#@93'. 20:07:03 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 20:07:28 hm 20:07:44 so the read-eval-print-loop creates a new promise ? 20:08:39 No, all values share a common numbering scheme. It's not the 92nd promise; it's the 92nd object that Scheme gave a number to for future reference (until the object is garbage-collected). 20:09:16 If you want to find out what the promise computes, for example, you can type `(force #@92)' at the REPL, and if Scheme hasn't garbage-collected it yet, then the REPL will show you what value that promise computes. 20:10:33 i see 20:11:27 The number has no significance except for your interactive convenience. 20:12:06 you mean, the indexes are common for all lisp_objects, not only for objects of type promise... 20:12:31 and the next index is allocated to the returned value... 20:12:52 Yes, more or less. (Some objects do not get numbered, such as numbers.) 20:12:57 djhaskin987 [~dhaskin@128.187.214.185] has joined #scheme 20:13:12 100 20:13:12 ;Value: 100 20:13:25 inded, it't no index for a number 20:13:27 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@frank.ldc.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:13:32 Riastradh: thanks 20:13:38 -!- djhaskin987 [~dhaskin@128.187.214.185] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:13:46 you made me understand what's about there. thanks 20:13:49 ymasory [~ymasory@frank.ldc.upenn.edu] has joined #scheme 20:15:47 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@frank.ldc.upenn.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:09 ymasory [~ymasory@frank.ldc.upenn.edu] has joined #scheme 20:21:59 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:22:32 jrt4 [~jrtaylori@207-118-45-56.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #scheme 20:24:25 userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has joined #scheme 20:26:19 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-209-224-248.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:29:07 -!- superjudge [~superjudg@c83-250-110-188.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: superjudge] 20:31:21 Is '(((a))) considered a list made of one single S-expression? 20:32:13 -!- ckrailo [~ckrailo@208.86.167.249] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:32:47 s-expressions can be nested, so yes, its a signle s-expression 20:33:47 So '(a (((b)))) is a list made of two s-expressions, right? 20:34:19 yea 20:34:20 Bahman: a sexp that starts with a parenthesis, ends to the matching parent. so it's only one sexp 20:34:49 Thanks jonrafkind, 20:34:51 Bahman: you have there only 1 sexp 20:35:12 sure. which is made of two others, in an obvious sense 20:35:15 atomx: 'a is not an s-expression? 20:35:30 atoms are s-expressions as well 20:35:48 s-expr = atom | ( s-expression* ) 20:35:50 Bahman: you have ONLY 1 sexp, make by some other sexp 20:35:56 but you have only ONE 20:36:03 basically, most anything you can type into a repl, right? 20:36:51 atomx: " a list made of two s-expressions"...looks like it fits. 20:36:53 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:37:08 Bahman: a list is a particular kind of sexp 20:37:17 userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has joined #scheme 20:37:27 Bahman: please read the definition from Wiki, or from a book you like. 20:37:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression 20:38:00 atomx: In fact I'm reading "The little schemer" and it goes: 20:38:09 (full (house)) is a list with only two 20:38:09 S-expressions. 20:38:13 Bahman: ya, tls is a good book 20:38:41 Bahman: tls goes from the basic things, you have to read more to perceive the general definiton 20:38:50 rudybot: clog the channel :D 20:38:50 ASau: ACTION slaps sepult, felipe, mmmulani, eno_, luz, mmc, blackened`, Pepe_, NNshag, MichaelRaskin, lolcow, clog, tjaway, araujo, tomaw__, elf, erg, Leonidas, cmatei, XTL, SharkBrain, nothingHappens, mhoye, dlouhy, Mr_Awesome, Checkie, dfeuer, olejorgenb, Obfuscate, bzzbzz, ski, emma, antoszka, ray, masm, rdd`, a-s`, Guest2003, bytecolor, rmrfchik, guenthr, saccade, kniu, gnomon, Len__, happycube, Edico, alaricsp, z0d, nutmegmagi, lisppaste, sstrickl, MrFa 20:39:08 Bahman: tls is a book to read and solve the exerc. from beginning to end in 3 days 20:39:19 Alright. 20:39:25 Thanks folks for the assisst. 20:39:40 it's a good book , as the first book of lisp 20:39:46 Riastradh: sounds like it does what you ask for :) 20:40:08 what the 20:40:10 rudybot: Maybe you should see M-x doctor about your slapping problem 20:40:11 ijp: anyway, your Palm of Slapping is powerless against my +2...Duck?...of Evading 20:40:15 why you do this 20:40:59 atomx: Yes. I'm enjoying the book. 20:41:42 _danb_ [~user@124-168-14-8.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 20:49:08 Bahman: if you test with emacs, you can read in emacs' info manual about the basic definitions of lisp , but take care , emacs is a different lisp system, it behaves differently to eval 20:52:19 ASau: amusing feature :) 21:01:06 -!- Ragnaroek [~chatzilla@p5B0C5837.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:29 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:08:04 atomx: Thanks for the tip but I'm using drracket. 21:09:14 -!- kuribas [~user@d54C43D8A.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:10:14 ckrailo [~ckrailo@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu] has joined #scheme 21:11:12 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:11:34 -!- elly [debian-tor@atheme/member/elly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:35 userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has joined #scheme 21:11:45 Mysysisi [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has joined #scheme 21:13:08 -!- Mysysisi [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has left #scheme 21:13:14 Mysysisi [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has joined #scheme 21:13:48 -!- Mysysisi [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has left #scheme 21:14:31 -!- userinit [~Ident@117.192.110.207] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:26 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.77.189.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:15:26 -!- Bahman [~Bahman@2.146.17.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15:32 viorel [~viorel@ool-44c70d72.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 21:19:11 elly [debian-tor@atheme/member/elly] has joined #scheme 21:20:01 Mysysisi [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has joined #scheme 21:22:31 -!- Mysysisi [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has quit [Client Quit] 21:24:33 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 21:26:46 Bahman [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has joined #scheme 21:27:06 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-170-41.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 21:28:52 Bahman: you can use drracket in emacs either, in inferior scheme mode 21:29:36 atomx: Yes, read about that. For now I try to avoid learning two things (emacs, scheme) at the same time and stick to drracket. 21:30:19 Well, you can use Racket in Emacs, but I think DrDracket is specifically the graphical environment 21:33:11 geiser! geiser ftw! 21:34:08 :-) 21:34:50 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@frank.ldc.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:02 where is jao 21:35:22 rudybot: seen jao 21:35:22 fds: jao was seen joining in/on #racket seven weeks ago, and then jao was seen leaving the channel in/on #racket seven weeks ago, saying ""Killed buffer"" 21:36:39 jao is lurking in #geiser 21:36:44 with fds ;) 21:36:52 :) 21:37:01 Oh, yes 21:37:10 -!- erjiang [~erjiang@7.80.244.66.jest.smithvilledigital.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:37:11 I rarely look in there, because it's so quiet 21:39:35 i installed drracket. it's graphical 21:39:48 boogie woogie 21:40:01 atomx: err, yes. Correct observation. ;) 21:40:54 atomx: perhaps you wanted racket? 21:41:41 -!- mmc [~michal@82-148-210-75.fiber.unet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:44:39 strange 21:44:48 i never heard about drrracket 21:44:58 but for its debugger, seems interesting to me 21:45:26 there are others debuggers of scheme ? I knew just the MIT-scheme debugger 21:45:28 I found the macro stepper more useful myself 21:45:31 -!- aisa [~aisa@173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: aisa] 21:53:31 -!- _danb_ [~user@124-168-14-8.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:55:10 error in drrocket: reference to undefined identifier: cons-stream 21:56:42 It's `stream-cons', I think 21:56:43 (require rackate/stream) 21:57:04 err, racket/stream, or srfi/40, or srfi/41 21:57:22 atomx: docs.racket-lang.org has a search 21:58:02 erjiang [~erjiang@7.80.244.66.jest.smithvilledigital.net] has joined #scheme 21:58:11 oh, and, yeah, it is stream-cons 21:58:19 thanks 21:58:21 -!- choas [~lars@p5792C2ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:59:04 stream-cons is provided by #lang racket, as you probably figured out by now. 21:59:21 ya, it does not know mit-scheme 21:59:30 in mit-s it's cons-stream 21:59:45 bremner_: does racket/stream delay the cars too, or just the cdrs? 22:00:06 but, anyways, it's interesting to have found another editor of scheme 22:00:47 ijp: both, if I understand the docs 22:01:03 i read a paper where the car was delayed (the original paper of delays), but i believe nowadays no implementation delays the car, only the cdr 22:02:00 -!- stis [~stis@host-90-235-77-0.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:30 atomx: other way around I think. 22:05:54 rien [~rien@dyn-160-39-34-114.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #scheme 22:11:11 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:16:16 -!- ckrailo [~ckrailo@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:17:54 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-170-41.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:19:20 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 22:25:52 aisa [~aisa@209.234.140.58] has joined #scheme 22:26:04 -!- aisa [~aisa@209.234.140.58] has quit [Client Quit] 22:35:32 -!- Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:35:56 -!- thoolihan [~Tim@99-157-225-37.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:36:52 Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has joined #scheme 22:40:55 -!- atomx [~user@86.35.150.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:10 -!- carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: carleastlund] 22:47:38 Couick [~quassel@AClermont-Ferrand-158-1-27-117.w92-133.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 22:55:04 -!- viorel [~viorel@ool-44c70d72.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: viorel] 22:55:20 ymasory [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:56:46 -!- Bahman [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:39 dlila [~dlila@CPE0014d1c9243c-CM001bd71cede2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 23:20:05 viorel [~viorel@ool-44c70d72.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 23:25:42 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-72.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25:42 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-176-72.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:03 -!- Couick [~quassel@AClermont-Ferrand-158-1-27-117.w92-133.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:45 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:27:23 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 23:29:10 -!- githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34:46 Bahman [~bahman@2.146.17.231] has joined #scheme 23:48:39 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@a91-152-135-21.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:53:58 -!- masm [~masm@bl19-153-57.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:58:01 masm [~masm@bl19-153-57.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme