00:01:29 -!- leo2007 [~leo@th041069.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07:43 ysph [~user@adsl-89-42-228.mgm.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 00:10:27 faze` [~enigma@c-66-41-214-247.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:16:33 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27:25 -!- ckrailo [~ckrailo@208.86.167.249] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:29:05 -!- ASau [~user@93-80-248-41.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:50 -!- tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:31:57 -!- emporas [~emporas@athedsl-170924.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:32:37 ASau [~user@93-80-248-41.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 00:49:53 jonrafkind: I think the essay's point is that most technical problems in other languages become bikeshed problems in Lisp. 00:50:36 To quote: 00:50:38 00:32 < PovAddict> so, it's so easy to add features to Lisp, that everybody can do it? 00:50:41 00:32 < cky> PovAddict: Yes. 00:50:44 00:32 < PovAddict> (and they all end up doing a poor job at it) 00:50:46 00:33 < cky> Not "poor job", but mostly one that scratches their itches and isn't usable by others. 00:50:49 00:33 < cky> To make a version that is usable by most everyone would require solving the bikeshed problem. ;-) 00:50:52 00:33 < PovAddict> which is NP-complete, or something :P 00:52:48 the linux community has an analagous problem. there are few standards because its easy to roll your own solution 00:52:58 Indeed. *nods* 00:56:17 I thought the authors comment about 'making C object oriented takes herculian effort' was funny. its really quite trivial using a struct of function pointers, C coders do it all the time 00:58:07 yeah, I showed some students how to do that in Java last week ;) 00:58:23 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:59:42 oh, not really. I just showed how to make a struct and pass references to a function in preference to invoking a method. 00:59:49 It's hard to make abstractions that interact well with a wide variety of applications, but lots of people -- no matter what language they speak natively -- like to make lots of abstractions nevertheless. 01:03:52 pearle [~pearle@blk-224-181-222.eastlink.ca] has joined #scheme 01:05:43 -!- githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11:21 -!- pearle [~pearle@blk-224-181-222.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12:57 xwl [~user@221.220.178.19] has joined #scheme 01:17:24 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:17:28 aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-93.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 01:21:27 pearle [~pearle@blk-224-181-222.eastlink.ca] has joined #scheme 01:32:11 http://trac.sacrideo.us/wg/attachment/wiki/WikiStart/r7rs-draft-1.pdf 01:32:23 Hmmm... my cat commented ";p" on something I hadn't even read. 01:32:27 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:32:30 -!- pdelgallego_ [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:33:06 foof: I hope the p is metaphorical 01:33:08 foof: cool! 01:33:15 (the draft, not the cat thing :) ) 01:33:34 tupi [~david@189.60.162.71] has joined #scheme 01:34:37 *cky* reads the draft with excitement. 01:34:45 foof: Does it mean Chibi 0.4 is out now, too? ;-) 01:34:53 bremner: That cat is always sticking her tongue out, it may not mean anything. 01:35:11 cky: It should be out soon. 01:35:29 Very good. :-) 01:36:20 foof: I ask because someone asked this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5683543/lisp-and-android-ndk 01:36:28 and it'd be interesting to try to port Chibi to Android NDK. 01:36:34 If someone hasn't already achieved this already. 01:36:54 I had been planning to try that out. 01:38:20 Cool! If you get around to it, let me know. :-) 01:39:04 \[ 01:41:56 foof: Who do I report typos to? Page 5, column 2, paragraph 2, "As a convenience, idenfitiers [sic] ...". 01:42:22 bohanlon_ [~bohanlon@pool-108-20-68-105.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:42:55 -!- bohanlon [~bohanlon@TUBERIUM.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:42:55 I should have included that in the announcement - general discussion is at scheme-reports@scheme-reports.org. 01:43:08 -!- bohanlon_ [~bohanlon@pool-108-20-68-105.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43:34 Cool, thanks. 01:43:37 bohanlon [~bohanlon@pool-108-20-68-105.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:44:58 I sent copies to a bunch of lists separately, I'll try to redirect threads there with bcc replies. 01:46:38 -!- subtextfuge [~subtextfu@211.Red-79-159-71.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: if anything, entropy makes me paranoid] 01:49:47 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-144-126.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 01:49:49 wbooze`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-144-126.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 01:52:25 -!- wbooze` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-154-185.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:52:32 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-154-185.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:03:33 ymasory [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:05:55 pjb` [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 02:08:06 rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has joined #scheme 02:09:57 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:09:59 lbc_ [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 02:18:15 -!- spacemagic [~chatzilla@c-24-245-21-197.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110323142937]] 02:24:54 offby1, `git stash pop' isn't cooperating! Argh! 02:25:57 offby1, a long time ago, I stashed some changes on a branch B that touched files foo/a and foo/b. Then I merged origin/master into branch B, and that touched foo/a. When I `git stash pop' in branch B, I get a merge conflict in foo/a, and the stash pop doesn't touch foo/b. 02:26:07 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 02:27:02 offby1, so I fixed the merge conflict in foo/a, and now `git stash pop' says that I have a dirty working tree so it refuses to do anything. How do I get stash pop to patch foo/b? 02:31:16 Riastradh: What I normally do in this case is: 02:31:20 git add foo/a 02:31:22 git stash 02:31:23 git stash pop 02:31:50 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has quit [Quit: dnolen] 02:32:16 If all goes well, then all the local changes would have been applied at this point. 02:32:26 If so, you can discard the original (failed) stash: git stash drop 02:37:05 I am totally confused. 02:37:11 Isn't `git stash; git stash pop' a no-op? 02:38:46 If not, then I am going to be terrified of ever using `git stash' and `git stash pop' from now on. 02:41:43 Riastradh: Yes and no. :-) 02:41:54 Riastradh: Normally, when you "git stash pop", the changes are not staged. 02:42:05 That means `no'. OK. No more `git stash' for me; I will store uncommitted changes in patch files manually. 02:42:27 However, if a conflict arises, then because you have to "git add" to mark the conflict as resolved, which usually means you commit straight afterwards, the other changes are also staged. 02:42:38 If your intent is to commit immediately after resolving the conflicts, fine and well. 02:42:43 Often, I don't care to do that. 02:42:54 So, I "git stash" then "git stash pop" to make all files unstaged. 02:43:12 There is probably a similar way to achieve this using "git reset --soft", but don't quote me on this. 02:43:23 This is FAR too confusing. 02:43:53 Hmm. Let's see how I can explain it better (if possible). 02:44:18 So, you know that git works on a "staging" system. When you "git add", the changes you add are staged. 02:44:26 When you "git commit", only staged changes are committed. 02:44:57 I just spent an hour trying to figure out how to use my revision control tool and learning that the mental model I thought I understood was in fact wrong. I could have solved my problem in seconds with diff and patch. Every second spent using the revision control tool is a second wasted, because it detracts from my attention toward the code I'm trying to work on. 02:45:42 That's disappointing to hear. 02:46:15 The potentially confusing bit in all the above is that in git, you stage a conflicted file to mark a conflict as resolved. 02:46:31 Assuming I'd have spent a minute using diff and patch, that's a sixtyfold increase in time wasted with Git. 02:47:50 jcowan [~John@cpe-74-68-112-189.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:48:04 Okay, let the flaming begin! 02:48:27 -!- tauntaun [~Crumpet@ool-457c37c3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:48:28 \o/ 02:48:49 jcowan: About draft 1? Or about git? ;-) 02:49:00 jcowan, I still hate Git, and I have just become substantially less comfortable with using it than I was two hours ago -- after spending two years trying to become comfortable with it! 02:49:03 Draft 1 would be more useful/interesting to me. 02:49:06 -!- ymasory [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:49:07 Oh. 02:49:19 After all, you don't have to use git to get draft 1. 02:49:45 jcowan: I've already found a couple of typos. ;-) 02:50:25 ...which isn't to say I've gotten very far through the document yet (copious free time and all that), but just to say I've read it some. ;-) 02:51:04 Okay, typo information is good. 02:53:20 jcowan: Page 5, column 2, paragraph 2: "idenfitiers" should be "identifiers". 02:54:35 jcowan: Page 6, column 2, paragraph 1: "[...] vertical bar are reserved", except, | is already used for generalised symbols, so I presume it's no longer reserved per se? 02:55:58 Fixed. 02:56:25 Cool. :-) 03:00:27 mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:03:28 Any more yet? 03:30:33 I haven't read further yet. 03:30:43 I will as I find time to. 03:42:54 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-187-65.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 03:54:04 pjb`` [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 03:55:39 -!- pjb` [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:56:21 -!- poucet [~chris@li23-146.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:57:06 poucet [~chris@li23-146.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 03:59:15 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:59:41 -!- Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:01:10 Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has joined #scheme 04:05:08 -!- elly|silent is now known as elly 04:25:07 -!- pjb`` [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:25:43 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 04:33:09 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-93.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:35:50 myu2 [~myu2@v051158.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 04:35:52 -!- myu2 [~myu2@v051158.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 04:36:35 -!- rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:42:03 monqy [~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 04:43:29 -!- Hal9k [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:44:09 Hal9k [~Lernaean@24-107-60-232.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:44:14 -!- Hal9k [~Lernaean@24-107-60-232.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 04:44:14 Hal9k [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 04:51:39 Riastradh: "git stash pop" "consumes" the stash. So it might not be there any more. 04:51:51 if you wanted to apply it to two branches, you should have used "git stash apply" 04:52:06 you can probably get it back by suitable grovelling in the reflog, but I'm not sure how 05:05:10 cky: send any more issues to me at cowan@ccil.org, if you don't mind 05:07:01 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-96-250-25-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:12:59 Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-96-246-2-5.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:16:57 -!- LN^^ is now known as LN^off 05:18:25 Well, anything beyond a typo should go to the mailing list. 05:19:24 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 05:19:58 Roynz [~kvirc@180.168.94.242] has joined #scheme 05:21:58 drdo` [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 05:23:29 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:35:30 -!- tupi [~david@189.60.162.71] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:36:42 dlila [~dlila@CPE0014d1c9243c-CM001bd71cede2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 05:40:55 -!- xwl [~user@221.220.178.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:45:04 -!- blueadept [~blueadept@unaffiliated/blueadept] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:49:07 -!- mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:49:35 -!- Euthydemus [~euthydemu@vaxjo5.79.cust.blixtvik.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:50:00 mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:50:35 Euthydemus [~euthydemu@vaxjo5.79.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #scheme 05:54:52 -!- monqy [~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:56:25 monqy [~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:56:46 leo2007 [~leo@2402:f000:5:2901:225:4bff:fea9:b9e4] has joined #scheme 05:58:46 Sure, but cky *was* speaking of typos. 05:58:56 I assume you mean the scheme-reports@ mailing list? 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12:13:42 xwl [~user@221.220.178.19] has joined #scheme 12:18:30 EbiDK [3e6b7ac3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.107.122.195] has joined #scheme 12:26:39 -!- xwl [~user@221.220.178.19] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:45 nataraj: this depends on the implementation you use 12:28:47 how about scheme48? 12:31:53 naryl [~weechat@213.170.70.141] has joined #scheme 12:31:57 -!- naryl [~weechat@213.170.70.141] has left #scheme 12:32:52 Bahman [~Bahman@2.144.209.73] has joined #scheme 12:33:00 Hi all! 12:33:49 I'm about to learn Scheme. Which implementation do you guys recommend? 12:35:32 racket has an IDE, which many beginners find friendly 12:35:46 of course it has other nice features too ;) 12:35:59 Bahman: that's a good question to start a flamewar. Chicken and Racket are the most user friendly for beginners. 12:36:04 Bahman: do you already know emacs? 12:36:24 bremner: Just the basics. 12:36:53 well, that levels the playing field a bit, since several schemes are usable from emacs 12:37:41 mario-goulart: I've never used chicken; what are it's beginner-friendly features? 12:37:54 bremner: I;ll learn emacs If I have to. Consider it no problem. 12:38:27 mario-goulart: # of implementations confuses beginners like me. That's why I came here to ask :-) 12:39:13 bremner: I'd say the nice parts regarding user friendlyness are documentation, community support and the availability of several extensions. 12:39:30 Bahman: yes, I understand. It's indeed confusing. 12:40:57 Bahman: I just added that note because we usually have a flame war after that question. :-) 12:41:38 But I know that is confusing and a basic question when you want to start playing with scheme. 12:41:44 In my package repos there are guile, racket, chicken. I better ask which one of those 3? 12:42:12 mario-goulart: So it was a warning to me to find cover in advance? ;-) 12:42:23 Bahman: Yeah. :-) 12:42:32 Bahman: here are some opinions: http://www.reddit.com/r/scheme/comments/ft2q5/using_scheme_for_practical_projects/ 12:42:32 http://tinyurl.com/5uugowb 12:42:48 Bahman: what do you intend to use scheme for? 12:43:24 Bahman: maybe the answer for this question can help to pick an implementation. 12:43:31 rageous [~Adium@user-38q461p.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #scheme 12:44:12 mario-goulart: Nothing in mind yet. Lisp has always been a mystery to me and since I may have some freetime in the coming weeks to figure it out. 12:45:05 I see. 12:46:04 A silly question: Is it recommended to write GUI apps with scheme? say a package manager for ArchLinux? 12:46:34 Yes, you can do that. 12:47:13 mario-goulart: Then you may consider it as the goal. 12:47:16 Some implementations offer bindings to some GUI toolkits. 12:47:56 Bahman: cool. That's a good practical goal as example. 12:48:07 racket ships with at least one qui app (the IDE), so there is some kind of proof ;) 12:48:16 :-) 12:49:14 I don't _think_ guile has much gui support, but I could be wrong. 12:49:37 Is there an ANSI standard for Scheme? That could narrow our search more. 12:49:44 I don't know much about racket, but I think it has bindings for wxwidgets (sorry, I may be talking bullshit here). Guile provides bindings to GTK and chicken for these ones: http://wiki.call-cc.org/chicken-projects/egg-index-4.html#ui 12:50:43 The specification for scheme doesn't cover much about practical things like GUIs and such. It's more about the _language_ itself. 12:51:10 So, for practical projects, you'd rely on the implementation features. 12:52:16 I see. 12:53:07 -!- drdo` is now known as drdo 12:53:13 Racket has a portable GUI layer. 12:53:44 (of course, portable between platforms, not Scheme implementations) 12:54:31 -!- hiyuh [~hiyuh@KD113151162160.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:56:33 DT``: You mean it's Racket's own GUI? 12:57:14 well, it uses gtk on linux; not sure about other places 12:57:57 it did use wx-widgets until very recently 12:59:56 bremner: Say I write that package manager with racket. If someone wants to run it, he has to first install Racket? 13:00:04 Guile has got Guile-Gnome, but I've never personally used it: http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/ 13:00:28 However, despite the lack of activity on that page, I know it has been worked on this year (and last :-P) 13:02:03 -!- nataraj [~nataraj@122.165.223.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:03:19 Bahman, not necessarily, but it has to embed all the modules you'll use in the executable. 13:03:55 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-180-147.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:04:08 Alright. So now the question boils down to "Racket or Guile"? 13:04:43 rdd [~rdd@c83-250-52-16.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 13:06:40 well, they both have have support from geiser, which is a nice, if new, scheme interaction mode. 13:07:03 DrDuck [~duck@216.186.151.63] has joined #scheme 13:07:10 I think I should try both. 13:07:18 Bahman: no, racket can make executables. They embed a lot of stuff in them. 13:08:18 Installing racket and guile. 13:10:52 Thank you folks. You were very helpful. Much appreciated. 13:24:08 wisey [~Steven@host86-147-41-15.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 13:25:04 -!- lbc_ [~quassel@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:41 -!- rageous [~Adium@user-38q461p.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:36:22 -!- mathk [~mathk@lns-bzn-53-82-65-2-29.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:40:12 mathk [~mathk@lns-bzn-61-82-250-100-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 13:40:26 -!- subtextfuge is now known as kuwv 13:40:31 *kuwv* is not here now 13:40:54 *kuwv* no está aquí ahora 13:41:23 -!- wisey [~Steven@host86-147-41-15.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:42:01 -!- razieliyo [~razieliyo@202.Red-88-18-118.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 13:45:12 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has joined #scheme 13:47:27 -!- Bahman [~Bahman@2.144.209.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:48:44 Bahman [~Bahman@2.144.209.73] has joined #scheme 13:50:22 Which book do you recommend for a programmer not familiar with Lisp/Scheme? 13:53:26 tauntaun [~Crumpet@ool-457c37c3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 13:57:38 Bahman, for Scheme: How to Design Programs, The Little Schemer and SICP. 13:58:01 SICP is a must. 13:58:48 DT``: SICP is about scheme? 13:59:27 no, but it uses Scheme. 14:01:01 Bahman: the SICP lectures are also on Youtube. 14:01:26 Thanks DT``, Broa. 14:03:01 ymasory [~ymasory@c-76-99-55-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:10:46 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-144-126.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:10:57 -!- wbooze [~levgue@78.35.144.126] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:19:14 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-144-126.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:27:42 AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 14:36:35 mao [~root@high.nig.gs] has joined #scheme 14:40:31 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-193-143.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:41:01 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-193-143.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:08 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-144-126.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:45:55 evhan [~evhan@76-250-39-229.lightspeed.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 14:55:29 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-193-143.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:11:52 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:12:14 copumpkin [~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 15:12:14 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:12:14 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 15:12:41 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 15:14:50 offby1, I didn't want to apply the stash to two branches. 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i have some patches for its "dream" scheme compiler, but dont know how to send him 19:48:19 alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 19:49:35 -!- kenjin2201 [~kenjin@58.230.108.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:49:41 -!- kenjin2202 [~kenjin@58.230.108.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49:57 kenjin2201 [~kenjin@58.230.108.42] has joined #scheme 19:50:01 kenjin2202 [~kenjin@58.230.108.42] has joined #scheme 19:51:44 ickabob [~ctpwwner@24-247-222-140.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 20:08:08 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-172-98.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:08:20 pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-167-237.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:10:02 -!- pothos_ is now known as pothos 20:10:05 -!- DT`` [~Feeock@net-93-149-54-8.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:10:23 xvilka: it is this person https://faculty.unt.edu/editprofile.php?pid=2082&onlyview=1 20:20:58 dzhus [~dzhus@93-80-213-224.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 20:22:00 DT`` [~Feeock@net-93-149-58-170.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 20:22:03 -!- femtooo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:22 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:30:04 -!- mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:34:21 -!- alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:38:43 C-Keen: yes 20:39:18 xvilka: then you do have his email address now :) 20:39:44 i've sent already on this email my patches. :( No any answer :( 20:40:00 xvilka: ah now I see, sorry 20:40:41 He only fix elf, after i added some patch in gentoo ebuild. 20:45:22 -!- dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:46:00 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 20:48:36 mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-98-209-31-38.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:52:21 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.77.182.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:11 dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has joined #scheme 21:05:24 -!- kenjin2202 [~kenjin@58.230.108.42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:24 -!- kenjin2201 [~kenjin@58.230.108.42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:59 -!- EarlGray [~dmytrish@inherent.puzzler.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:08:52 EarlGray [~dmytrish@inherent.puzzler.volia.net] has joined #scheme 21:21:34 -!- dzhus [~dzhus@93-80-213-224.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Yow! 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