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I am not a Schemer. 02:10:18 bye. 02:10:45 Hal9k [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 02:12:05 like, you're freaking out, as in you're out of here? or you're freaking out as in, "AAAAAAAH!!!!!?" 02:12:27 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 02:12:35 ... or both? 02:12:45 The latter. 02:12:49 ooh, could be both. 02:12:50 ah. 02:13:28 rageous: Scheme is my #1 favourite language. :-) 02:13:41 -!- mns [~mns@c-71-232-124-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:13:59 I believe that it could be enjoyable, but I just don't know about getting this in the time allotted. 02:14:45 rageous: *nods* Python is my #2 favourite language at the moment; it doesn't have named let, continuations, or macros, but it (for a large part) feels clean, like Scheme does. 02:15:09 (I don't think Python has proper tail recursion either. What a shame. ;-)) 02:15:11 Those are the two languages I happen to be working with this semester. 02:15:13 (you forgot lambdas) 02:15:24 DT``: Python has lambdas, but much weaker than Scheme ones. 02:15:52 cky, GvR hates fp, he explicitly said he will not optimize your tail calls. 02:16:16 DT``: Indeed, and that's why Python is unlikely to become my #1 favourite language. 02:16:27 adu [~ajr@softbank220043138128.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 02:16:29 http://neopythonic.blogspot.com/2009/04/tail-recursion-elimination.html 02:19:52 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Quit: Adamant] 02:21:38 DT``: Nice. The second comment is lolzy. 02:21:59 "This is very pythonic because it shows poor decision making, poor performance and immature ideology." 02:22:20 -!- w00tles [~quassel@0909ds1-sdb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:46 the GIL was pythonic too. 02:22:53 Lol. 02:23:09 Thank goodness managed versions of the Python runtime (IronPython, Jython) do not use GIL. 02:24:43 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@a91-153-112-241.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:25:20 homie``` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-171-164.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:26:04 nilg` [~user@77.70.2.229] has joined #scheme 02:26:55 -!- homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-152-86.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:30:34 Any of the scheme gods around? I have the first in the string of assignments that requires I do not talk to other students about it  does talking about it here break the rules? 02:30:37 dlila [~dlila@CPE0014d1c9243c-CM001bd71cede2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 02:30:50 This channel is publicly logged. 02:30:56 So other students can find it in the logs. 02:31:20 Quite the conundrum. 02:31:40 Yep. I think the only solution is to do the problems yourself. ;-) 02:33:00 If you want to ask on IRC, you can ask on #stackoverflow---there are no "Scheme gods" there, but at least (in theory) it's not publicly logged. 02:34:16 *foof* has fled Tokyo 02:34:24 josephholsten [~josephhol@adsl-70-234-166-236.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 02:34:25 foof: *nods* 02:34:33 foof: Radiation getting quite bad there, eh? 02:35:06 -!- josephholsten [~josephhol@adsl-70-234-166-236.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:35:14 no, irrational fear is getting bad though 02:35:50 plus blackouts and disrupted train services are just annoying 02:36:05 I bet. :-( 02:36:45 -!- adu [~ajr@softbank220043138128.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 02:37:10 josephholsten [~josephhol@70.234.166.236] has joined #scheme 02:37:28 mns [~mns@c-71-232-124-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:37:29 -!- josephholsten [~josephhol@70.234.166.236] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:37:54 josephholsten [~josephhol@70.234.166.236] has joined #scheme 02:42:19 tauntaun [~icarus@ool-457c37c3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 02:45:24 fantazo_ [~fantazo@178-190-235-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #scheme 02:45:32 rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has joined #scheme 02:45:34 -!- ckrailo [~ckrailo@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 02:46:08 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@178-191-163-210.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:50:09 statue [~statue@static-71-173-128-82.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:56:14 -!- zmv [~daniel@c934a9f5.virtua.com.br] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:04:34 -!- josephholsten [~josephhol@70.234.166.236] has quit [Quit: josephholsten] 03:09:29 AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 03:10:53 adu [~ajr@softbank220043138128.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 03:17:08 -!- statue is now known as zzztatue 03:18:57 -!- blueadept [~blueadept@unaffiliated/blueadept] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:25:07 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:25:43 xwl_ [~user@nat/nokia/x-doojmbdkgbvoofze] has joined #scheme 03:28:31 -!- eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28:32 -!- askhader [~askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:30:00 askhader [~askhader@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 03:30:13 eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #scheme 03:31:17 -!- tauntaun [~icarus@ool-457c37c3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 03:34:58 -!- ysph [~user@75-143-92-146.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:35:21 ysph [~user@75-143-92-146.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 03:40:35 -!- aidalgol [aidan@69.61.15.114] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 03:42:05 aidalgol [aidan@2002:453d:f72::1337:3] has joined #scheme 03:59:59 -!- rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has quit [Quit: rpg] 04:05:39 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has quit [Quit: dnolen] 04:07:20 planetPlosion [~chatzilla@c-24-245-21-197.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:21:52 josephholsten [~josephhol@ip70-189-106-111.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:26:35 *crickets* 04:27:29 O_o 04:28:43 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 04:30:47 yamanu [~yamanu@89.142.205.40] has joined #scheme 04:38:40 -!- dlila [~dlila@CPE0014d1c9243c-CM001bd71cede2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:58:35 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 05:03:51 myu2 [~myu2@58x5x224x106.ap58.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 05:11:11 -!- yamanu [~yamanu@89.142.205.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:11:51 samth [~samth@c-76-126-140-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:17:49 -!- Caleb-- [thedude@109.64.205.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19:23 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has joined #scheme 05:27:46 -!- samth [~samth@c-76-126-140-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:31:50 is there any standard thing that does: (fold-right string-append "" (map ->string args)) ? 05:33:54 (with-output-to-string (lambda () (for-each display args))) 05:37:30 w-o-t-s isn't standard, but is widely supported 05:38:49 yeah, that works 05:39:54 or in my fmt library: (fmt (apply-cat args)) 05:40:42 sorry, (fmt #t (apply-cat args)) 05:40:44 -!- tupi [~david@189.60.162.71] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:43:01 -!- em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:44:46 -!- rageous [~Adium@user-38q461p.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:51:14 em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 05:51:26 foof: ah, nice 06:00:41 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:09:04 -!- myu2 [~myu2@58x5x224x106.ap58.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14:31 -!- meanfish [~bill@76.73.221.195] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:14:59 meanfish [~bill@2002:4c49:ddc3:0:5192:9515:a273:4e52] has joined #scheme 06:16:24 myu2 [~myu2@58x5x224x106.ap58.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 06:17:14 -!- Riastradh [debian-tor@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:17:59 Riastradh [debian-tor@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 06:41:37 if i have a syntax-rules like (define-a name (arg ...)), how can I produce an expansion like (define (-name arg ...) ) ? 06:41:54 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-208-239.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 06:42:00 the main part I'm having trouble with is how to add a prefix to the symbol name 06:42:28 ysph: You can't do it using syntax-rules, but you can do it using syntax-case. 06:43:40 Sadly, I'm new to syntax-case, so someone else will have to answer your question. 06:46:49 ysph` [~user@75-143-92-146.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 06:47:34 -!- ysph [~user@75-143-92-146.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:50:20 -!- ysph` [~user@75-143-92-146.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:50:50 ysph [~user@75-143-92-146.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 06:53:21 i think i will need to use a renaming macro 06:54:58 hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 07:01:42 rdd [~rdd@c83-250-51-60.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 07:30:03 -!- AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:34:26 Can I use let-values inside a define-syntax as part of the renaming procedure? 07:34:59 ysph: check out ; it shows how to do some prefix definitions. 07:35:00 http://tinyurl.com/6jpkgqc 07:35:17 it involves a lot of conc and string->symbol. 07:35:46 (it uses explicit-renaming macros, btw.) 07:37:46 klutometis: I've got that part, I have a huge let* like that, I'd like to do: (let-values ([(%set! %lambda ... ) (map r '(set! lambda ...))]) ...) 07:37:58 AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 07:38:09 for example 07:38:36 ysph: can you paste what you have so far? 07:38:51 sure 07:39:27 peterhil [~peterhil@a91-153-112-241.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 07:41:34 https://gist.github.com/882760 07:42:55 the part that doesn't seem to work is let-values 07:42:59 -!- AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:43:25 If I just put the renames in the let*, it seems to generate the expansion I want. 07:44:21 -!- fantazo_ [~fantazo@178-190-235-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47:12 ysph, you can make that work if you replace (map r ...) by (apply values (map r ...)). 07:47:18 with the exception that I forgot to eval %tcp-out and %tcp-in 07:48:55 i'm getting Error: during expansion of (define-hen-simple ...) - unbound variable: let-values 07:49:34 Maybe Chicken doesn't have LET-VALUES. 07:49:54 if i do (let-values (([a b c] (values 1 2 3))) (list a b c)), i get (1 2 3) 07:50:16 -!- rdd [~rdd@c83-250-51-60.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:50:59 What if you do (define-syntax f (lambda (e r c) (let-values (((a b c) (values 1 2 3))) `(,(r 'quote) ,(list a b c]? 07:51:02 ysph: (use srfi-11) 07:59:01 foof: i've done that, let-values works as long as it's not inside a define-syntax 08:00:02 Riastradh: your example reports referenced but unbound: let-values a b a b 08:02:44 AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 08:06:13 Maybe I need to do something extra to make srfi-11 available to the macro transformer env? 08:08:02 Probably. I don't what, though. 08:12:11 ysph: (import-for-syntax srfi-11) 08:12:19 there's also a #chicken 08:14:43 foof: that helped me figure it out, it's (import-for-syntax chicken) 08:15:00 apparently there is no srfi-11 module, it's part of chicken 08:15:26 thanks everyone for your assistance 08:29:00 samth [~samth@c-76-126-140-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 08:39:06 -!- samth [~samth@c-76-126-140-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42:02 -!- pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-4dbeddba.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:42:14 pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-d9bfc0b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 08:43:13 -!- xwl_ [~user@nat/nokia/x-doojmbdkgbvoofze] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50:01 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54:49 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@unaffiliated/arbscht] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:55:37 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56:47 arbscht [~arbscht@unaffiliated/arbscht] has joined #scheme 08:57:00 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 08:57:03 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has joined #scheme 09:05:22 femtoo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 09:14:18 has anyone had speed issues with mit scheme? 09:16:02 i've been running some benchmarks against different schemes occasionally, and for some reason mit-scheme has been 10-100x slower than the fastest ones, even though it has a native code compiler 09:16:23 which seems a bit weird 09:17:23 xwl_ [~user@nat/nokia/x-hjlusprxojfhuirw] has joined #scheme 09:23:37 RaceCondition [~erik@82.131.19.252.cable.starman.ee] has joined #scheme 09:31:12 -!- xwl_ [~user@nat/nokia/x-hjlusprxojfhuirw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:13 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:33:00 -!- peddie [~peddie@XVM-107.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:48:26 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-208-239.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51:35 peddie [~peddie@XVM-107.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 09:55:23 masm [~masm@bl15-78-252.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 10:05:31 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:34:36 -!- hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:35:56 hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 10:50:57 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 11:20:48 -!- josephholsten [~josephhol@ip70-189-106-111.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Quit: josephholsten] 11:43:01 hiyuh [~hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 11:43:41 -!- bokr [~eduska@109.110.57.11] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:51:45 -!- tr3x [~tr3x@93-141-106-73.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:53:42 tr3x [~tr3x@78-0-197-17.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #scheme 11:59:45 Does anyone here have experience with the C FFI in MIT-Scheme? I need to call a function pointer that is part of a structure, and I'm not sure how to achieve this... 12:10:07 rageous [~Adium@user-38q461p.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #scheme 12:12:35 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has joined #scheme 12:53:12 teurastaja [~Samuel@modemcable182.177-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 12:54:33 emporas [~emporas@athedsl-169325.home.otenet.gr] has joined #scheme 12:56:34 ecraven: hack it with a C wrapper that does it for you until you have more time? 12:57:02 -!- LN^^ [~LN@91.206.142.29] has quit [Quit: Serverwechsel] 12:57:26 LN^^ [~LN@91.206.142.29] has joined #scheme 12:57:45 Harrold [~quassel@bas1-ottawa11-1177690297.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 13:00:05 just doing that ;) 13:03:08 xwl [~user@222.130.114.131] has joined #scheme 13:04:29 -!- adu [~ajr@softbank220043138128.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 13:16:00 -!- xwl [~user@222.130.114.131] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20:04 -!- foocraft is now known as SirPlus 13:21:02 -!- hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:21:20 -!- jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:31:26 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32:32 -!- myu2 [~myu2@58x5x224x106.ap58.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:09 -!- lusory [~bart@bb219-74-105-76.singnet.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:34:44 -!- zzztatue is now known as statue 13:37:00 -!- Harrold [~quassel@bas1-ottawa11-1177690297.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:37:57 lusory [~bart@bb119-74-153-40.singnet.com.sg] has joined #scheme 13:44:12 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159874.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 13:45:30 carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 13:45:36 -!- AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52:00 rpg [~rpg@mpls.sift.info] has joined #scheme 13:54:12 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:55:10 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has joined #scheme 14:01:48 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:03:23 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has joined #scheme 14:10:05 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:13:47 aisa [~aisa@173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 14:16:27 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:17:00 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.17.75] has joined #scheme 14:17:31 -!- Nisstyre [~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18:05 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has quit [Quit: dnolen] 14:23:46 carbocal` [~user@38.99.165.166] has joined #scheme 14:24:07 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 14:26:32 jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 14:26:53 tronador_ [~guille@190.145.89.146] has joined #scheme 14:27:57 tauntaun [~icarus@64.134.102.125] has joined #scheme 14:32:56 copumpkin [~pumpkin@17.101.89.204] has joined #scheme 14:32:56 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@17.101.89.204] has quit [Changing host] 14:32:56 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 14:46:32 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-161-184.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:51:56 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159874.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:52:11 Kleif [~Kleif@21.Red-81-36-10.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:52:41 femtoo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 14:56:41 aoh, can you be more specific about your tests? 15:06:12 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 15:09:35 myu2 [~myu2@q040135.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 15:12:36 pdlogan [~patrick@174-25-37-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 15:15:48 (call/cc (lambda (continue) (for-each (map online? 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doing something wrong, or if there is some weird behavior i'm triggering 19:10:54 Well, I don't know what you're doing, so it's hard to say whether it might be wrong... Are you compiling the code, with (declare (usual-integrations)), or are you running it in the interpreter? 19:11:19 Riastradh, some timings at http://code.google.com/p/owl-lisp/wiki/OwlBench, and the code (though maybe a bit newer) are in https://github.com/aoh/owl-lisp/tree/master/bench 19:11:54 mainly $ time interpreter < file | grep valid outcome || fail 19:12:07 -!- tippenein [~tippenein@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:56 ah, maybe it's not compiling everything automatically, like ikarus does? 19:13:00 Sounds like you're running the code in the interpreter, then. 19:13:05 What you type at the REPL is interpreted. 19:13:29 ok, that would give one order of magnitude 19:13:47 and maybe more if the interpreter isn't especially tuned as code is assumed to be compiled 19:13:51 You should compile the code with (cf "file") first, and either add (declare (usual-integrations)) to the file or use (fluid-let ((sf/default-declarations '((usual-integrations)))) (cf "file")). 19:14:31 -!- pdlogan1 [~patrick@174-25-37-137.ptld.qwest.net] has left #scheme 19:14:44 The interpreter is slow. Essentially no effort has been put into making it fast since the compiler was written, and a lot of substantial complexity to speed it up (from before the compiler) was taken out a while ago. 19:16:20 bweaver [~user@host-68-169-175-225.WISOLT2.epbfi.com] has joined #scheme 19:16:27 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 19:17:17 femtoo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 19:21:11 -!- choas [~lars@p578F6A60.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:22:15 ok, 0.26 compiled vs 9.281s for mit-scheme. now the numbers are making sense. 19:23:17 -!- martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:32 martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 19:25:12 -!- sloyd_ [sloyd@station457.vo3.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 19:25:30 sloyd [sloyd@station457.vo3.net] has joined #scheme 19:31:20 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has 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