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(list 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8)) 01:32:59 rapacity: ; Value: (2 4 6 8) 01:38:15 -!- Axioplase_ is now known as Axioplase 01:39:10 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:41:21 myu2 [~myu2@v077103.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 01:43:07 xwl_ [~wixu@nat/nokia/x-tbjhdaqxsobcqrzt] has joined #scheme 01:49:37 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-171-115.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:53:52 copumpkin [~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 01:53:52 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:53:52 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 01:56:18 -!- githogori [~githogori@170.sub-75-208-148.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:42 rien_ [~rien@dyn-160-39-34-114.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #scheme 02:06:58 bitweiler [~bitweiler@adsl-99-40-239-167.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 02:21:48 yay for dynamic scope! 02:24:12 *bitweiler* shouts Hurray! 02:33:40 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:33:45 erjiang: O_o 02:34:16 erjiang: It's been a long time since I've heard any non-Perl programmer say good things about dynamic scoping. 02:34:42 (Limited exceptions like fluid-let, parameters, defvar, etc. notwithstanding.) 02:35:13 Does thje scheme website run on the scheme server? 02:35:18 sscheme webserver* 02:36:19 jcowan [~John@cpe-74-68-112-189.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:36:23 askhader: ... what exactly are you referring to? 02:36:27 schemers.org? 02:36:46 Yeah, I didn't know that Scheme had its own website. ;-) 02:36:53 Several, in fact. 02:36:59 -!- dfkjjkfd [~paulh@210-11-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:38:06 Fine 02:38:08 Any of them. 02:39:22 askhader: running on what? 02:40:05 Thee are some Scheme webservers and some sites run on them. Does that answer your question? 02:41:17 corruptmemory [~jim@ool-18bbd5b2.static.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 02:41:19 -!- zanes [~zane@wall.tripitinc.com] has quit [Quit: zanes] 02:41:35 mwolfe [~michael@cpe-67-49-72-40.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:42:15 { websites running on scheme webservers }  { websites about scheme } != {} 02:43:31 anybody in here know how to use modules in chicken scheme? 02:43:54 What would you like to know? 02:44:16 I have logic in a module, and I would like to use that module in another file and compile 02:44:37 erjiang: I think the real question is whether { websites running on scheme webservers }  { websites not about scheme } = {} :-P 02:45:04 Does the module contain syntax definitions? 02:45:06 fds: a yet unsolved problem! 02:45:15 jcowan: no, just procedures 02:45:37 NihilistDandy [~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:45:44 In that case you can compile it into a .so or .dll with the -shared option, and make use of it with (use foo). That assumes the module name and file name are the same. 02:46:40 jcowan: ok, let me try that 02:47:56 jcowan: well, I made a .so file, but I'm kind of lost on how to get the other file to link? 02:48:23 Just put "(use foo)" at the top of the other file 02:48:36 jcowan: cannot import from undefined module 02:48:47 jcowan: all these files are in the same directory right now 02:49:12 Did you wrap the contents of the module in a (module foo ....) form? 02:50:00 jcowan: yes, but don't I need to tell csc that module "foo" is in "foo.ss" or something like that? 02:50:29 csc -shared foo.ss 02:51:09 emma [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 02:52:03 jcowan: right, so now I have "foo.so", but I want to compile "runfoo.ss" which uses module "foo" 02:52:24 So runfoo.ss contains "(use foo)" at the top level? 02:52:30 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:52:43 jcowan: yes 02:53:14 And you're tring to compile it with "csc runfoo.ss"? 02:53:23 jcowan: right 02:54:00 Ah, I see. 02:54:09 Do "csc -j foo.ss" before compiling runfoo 02:54:18 -!- emma is now known as em 02:56:44 jcowan: csc: no source file specified 02:58:01 Oh, right. csc -j foo foo.ss 02:58:02 -!- mathguru123 [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:58:09 It's been a while since I've done this, as you can see. 02:58:32 mathguru123 [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:59:47 jcowan: "csc -j foo foo.ss" worked 03:00:09 jcowan: is there something special I have to do when compiling "runfoo.ss"? 03:01:02 jcowan: nevermind. I had to do "csc -j foo -s foo.ss" because "foo" couldn't be dynamically loaded, but "foo.so" could. 03:01:23 -!- Phao [pedro-hen@189.12.244.194] has left #scheme 03:01:25 Yes, that does the import library and the shared library compilation in one step. 03:01:36 But no, nothing special with runfoo.ss 03:01:56 jcowan: thanks for all the help! 03:02:36 Sure. 03:18:03 incubot: (number->string (modulo -13 64) 36) 03:18:03 Error: (number->string) bad argument type: 36 03:18:06 :( 03:18:54 Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.206.187] has joined #scheme 03:19:11 -!- xwl_ [~wixu@nat/nokia/x-tbjhdaqxsobcqrzt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:19:20 -!- Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.206.187] has quit [Client Quit] 03:25:41 erjiang: radix must be 2, 8, 10 or 16 03:26:19 Axioplase: I know that to be portable, you can only use those bases, but I wonder if any Scheme implementations support arbitrary bases. 03:26:23 (For both number->string and string->number.) 03:26:43 Chez Scheme goes up to 36 03:26:56 erjiang: Cool. :-) 03:27:00 36 being the number of numeric digits and latin alphabet together 03:27:04 cky: guile seems to 03:27:30 I only bring this up because many things use base36-encodings for names and such 03:27:38 Axioplase: IIRC, Guile 1.8 supports number->string of arbitrary bases but not string->number. 03:27:49 well, guile supports between 2 and 36 03:28:28 -!- amca [~amca@CPE-121-208-84-154.cqzr1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Farewell] 03:28:46 is there a guile bot here 03:28:53 erjiang: Not that I've ever seen. 03:29:01 erjiang: There's a bot in #guile, but it does not support eval. 03:29:52 anyways, guile 1.8.7 happily does conversions both ways with arbitrary bases 03:30:11 well, arbitrary up to 36, after which it becomes arbitrary 03:30:12 It would be nice to have a bot that works like "bot: eval 'gambit (+ 1 2)" and "bot: eval 'guile (* 2 3)" 03:31:41 Axioplase: That would be fancy. 03:31:57 Axioplase: sounds dangerous 03:32:12 bc lets you set obase to any value you like; above 16, the bigits are printed out with spaces between them. 03:33:19 Try setting obase to 1000 and then typing in a random bignum 03:34:43 ikarus doesn't do arbitrary bases either :/ 03:35:58 erjiang: I looked at the 1.8.7 sources. string->number can handle arbitrary bases but all the digits must fall inside [0-9a-f]. 03:36:23 (Guile 1.8.7, of course.) 03:36:47 (number->string 52 36) "1g" 03:36:55 (version) "1.8.7" 03:37:00 erjiang: Okay, try to roundtrip that back using string->number. 03:37:25 cky: oh, misread you. you are right 03:37:35 *nods* 03:37:57 guile 2? we can only hope 03:38:01 Indeed. 03:38:11 Lemme check the Guile master sources. 03:38:25 (I almost typed "trunk", harking back to CVS/Subversion days.) 03:39:18 -!- rien_ [~rien@dyn-160-39-34-114.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 03:42:16 erjiang: The current master Guile code seems to support any value from #\a onwards. Which means you might even be able to use #\{, #\|, #\}, etc. 03:42:31 But, lemme check first. 03:43:06 interesting! a portable, flexible number->string and string->number might be useful 03:47:32 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 03:52:35 timj__ [~timj@e176193134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 03:55:04 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-124.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:56:11 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176197022.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56:11 -!- mwolfe [~michael@cpe-67-49-72-40.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:56:54 mwolfe [~michael@cpe-67-49-72-40.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:03:51 -!- yx [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/yx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06:10 yx [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/yx] has joined #scheme 04:14:43 Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.206.187] has joined #scheme 04:15:01 -!- Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.206.187] has quit 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05:22:10 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has joined #scheme 05:23:09 Yes, they are standard Scheme. 05:23:30 erjiang: In Guile 2.0, you can indeed use values outside of 0-9a-z: (string->number "z{|}" 39) => 2132402 05:24:09 erjiang: However, that applies to string->number only; for number->string, it will not accept a radix >36. 05:24:21 Ooh, Javascript too. Neat. 05:24:51 jcowan: JavaScript allows you to use radix 39 with characters outside of 0-9a-z? Nice. :-) 05:25:21 No, I mean Guile 2.0 does Javascript as well as Scheme. 05:25:27 Hehehe, yep. :-) 05:25:40 Its test suite also tests the ability to run a brainfuck program. 05:25:52 So, not just limited to JS or Scheme. :-) 05:26:08 Heh, I should write a GolfScript thing that way. :-) 05:26:13 cky: Apparently I was expecting close-port to be standard 05:26:28 erjiang: I think input and output ports are deeply segregated in the Scheme world. 05:26:44 Aportheid ; har har har 05:26:54 cky: har har 05:27:20 cky: MIT Scheme defines close-port that just tries to close the port, no matter if it's in or out 05:27:43 *nods* 05:27:48 There's an ambiguity in R5RS about whether port? must exist. 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(list (values 1 2) (values 3 4)) 12:35:23 error :p 12:37:53 -!- steshaw [~steshaw@60-240-111-207.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:44:03 unspecified according to http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-language 12:46:26 interesting how small the section on multiple values is, I guess it doesn't impact the other language semantics too much 12:59:27 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-115-162.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:12 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-115-162.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 13:15:27 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159852.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 13:21:22 -!- mathk [~mathk@lns-bzn-20-82-64-4-147.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:47 mathk [~mathk@83.159.33.33] has joined #scheme 13:28:28 -!- Grazl [~Grazl@23.Red-81-36-10.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:28:36 Grazl_ [~Grazl@23.Red-81-36-10.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:28:49 -!- Grazl_ is now known as Grazl 13:41:13 vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@122.167.108.176] has joined #scheme 13:41:14 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@122.167.108.176] has quit [Changing host] 13:41:14 vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@fsf/member/vu3rdd] has joined #scheme 13:47:56 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:48:21 copumpkin [~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 13:48:21 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 13:48:21 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 13:54:19 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:54:35 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 13:57:31 tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 13:59:00 langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 14:14:32 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-124.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 14:29:36 femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-7-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 14:31:45 evhan [~evhan@76-250-39-229.lightspeed.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 14:32:57 k04n [~k04n@cpe-76-175-192-194.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:33:29 -!- k04n [~k04n@cpe-76-175-192-194.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:41 -!- alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:35:04 thoolihan [~Tim@209.221.3.130] has joined #scheme 14:35:11 -!- metasyntax` [~taylor@12.132.219.7] has quit [Quit: Be seeing you.] 14:35:47 -!- thoolihan [~Tim@209.221.3.130] has left #scheme 14:38:32 easy4 [~easy4@c-174-60-36-128.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:38:50 -!- Grazl [~Grazl@23.Red-81-36-10.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:50:35 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:50:54 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 15:00:50 Oejet [~oejet@212.45.120.74] has joined #scheme 15:06:57 tronador_ [~guille@190.145.89.146] has joined #scheme 15:13:19 kuribas [~user@d54C43032.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 15:15:57 metasyntax` [~taylor@12.132.219.7] has joined #scheme 15:21:27 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:24:54 -!- Caleb-- [thedude@109.66.206.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:32:26 -!- _danb_ [~user@124-171-12-242.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:34:02 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-120-221.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: HG`] 15:34:57 HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-120-221.dip.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 15:35:18 -!- snorble [~snorble@s83-179-14-105.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:35:45 snorble [~snorble@s83-179-14-105.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 15:41:59 -!- Oejet [~oejet@212.45.120.74] has left #scheme 15:46:30 -!- kuribas [~user@d54C43032.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:26 copumpkin [~pumpkin@17.101.89.204] has joined #scheme 15:47:26 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@17.101.89.204] has quit [Changing host] 15:47:26 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 15:51:23 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:51:39 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 15:59:10 Blkt [~user@160.80.120.102] has joined #scheme 15:59:48 good day everyone 16:00:14 does anyone of you use Racket? 16:03:01 Blkt: Yes 16:03:05 Blkt: You probably want #racket 16:03:16 thanks 16:04:18 Why is there a separate channel for each Scheme system? What discussion is left for #scheme? 16:04:49 I don't want to follow umpteen zillion different Scheme-related channels (Freenode won't let me, either) -- is this the reason why #scheme has been so quiet lately? 16:05:24 drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 16:06:56 There are 160 people in here (minus bots and multiple personalities), I guess everyone is just really quiet? 16:07:24 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:32 ok 159 16:07:50 It wouldn't make much sense discussing chicken eggs or racket libraries here, I think. 16:07:56 Why not? 16:08:18 Because if I use racket, I wouldn't care about chicken eggs, for example. 16:08:18 That's all Scheme. If not that, what would it make sense to discuss here? 16:08:25 scheme 16:09:03 You may not care about the particular egg infrastructure, but you might stumble into a discussion about eggs, and say `That's interesting -- eggs do something that I never thought about which Racket doesn't do,' or vice versa. 16:09:06 jewel [~jewel@196-215-88-87.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 16:09:11 yes, actually why not 16:09:54 I wouldn't mind, actually. That's my opinion about _why_ we have several implementation channels. 16:10:04 Or `Oh, I know there's a PLaneT package for that -- perhaps you can port it to the egg format, if there isn't an egg for it already.' 16:11:20 That'd be nice. 16:11:21 and let's share all the hopes that this will be much easier with r7rs :) 16:11:27 Riastradh, it's much easier to both ask questions and give answers if more context is shared 16:11:54 this is the general nature of conversation 16:11:55 Maybe it would be appropriate to relegate to separate channels politicking about the organization of a Scheme system, but I suspect that's not the bulk of what goes on in #racket, #gambit, #chicken, &c. 16:12:18 for example, if someone asks on #racket "how do i fetch html from a url", the answer is obvious 16:12:27 To be honest the most things in #chicken are silly :) 16:12:43 oops I am thinking out loud again 16:12:43 if they ask that here, i either assume Racket (which makes some people upset) or the q&a gets much longer and more involved 16:12:48 samth, with the addition of two words, the answer is exactly as obvious in #scheme. 16:13:13 I am not upset about racket 16:13:29 this is not #linux 16:13:34 there are rules 16:13:40 :) 16:13:44 syntax-rules 16:15:24 Anyway, some implementations really need a specific channel for infrastructure-related topic. That's the case of chicken. 16:15:33 topics* 16:15:58 And for brainwashing too. 16:17:46 ~`. 16:17:55 oops 16:28:01 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:31:21 carleastlund [~cce@gotham.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:32:49 Phao [phao@189.107.172.223] has joined #scheme 16:34:52 Oh well. This isn't new -- I suppose I've lost this battle, and #scheme just isn't very useful to anyone any more. 16:35:27 -!- Riastradh [debian-tor@fsf/member/riastradh] has left #scheme 16:35:39 ? 16:37:05 corruptmemory [~jim@96.246.167.18] has joined #scheme 16:37:42 -!- scaman [~lowscaloo@n112119181212.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:39:13 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-120-221.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:44:37 -!- user18 [~user@p5B2A9935.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:44:54 user17 [~user@p5B2A9935.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 16:46:26 -!- hkBst [~quassel@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:32 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-7-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:30 Actually, #scheme is very useful to me, because it has pretty low traffic. :-) 16:55:45 I can generally (on a good day) catch up with the scrollback on this channel. 16:55:55 I never bother to do this for the other impl-specific channels. 16:58:26 *copumpkin* starts spamming like crazy 17:02:27 HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-120-221.dip.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 17:04:51 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:06:26 -!- Blkt [~user@160.80.120.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:07:01 jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 17:10:29 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:29 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 17:15:53 -!- Phao [phao@189.107.172.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:16:10 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:17:02 rins [~user@173-162-214-174-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 17:18:00 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 17:27:48 tobetchi [~tobetchi@p923e46.sagant01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 17:28:01 -!- tobetchi [~tobetchi@p923e46.sagant01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:12 tobetchi [~tobetchi@p923e46.sagant01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 17:30:28 I agree with cky; I read the #scheme scrollback almost every day. 17:32:08 But, I suppose I can see that balkanisation in the Scheme community must be frustrating to long-term members 17:43:49 and to new members 17:45:20 Hm, true. Although some of them just don't know any better and assume it's normal. ;-) 17:45:24 (Like me.) 17:47:04 mmc1 [~michal@85.90.76.66] has joined #scheme 17:51:26 -!- mmc1 [~michal@85.90.76.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:54:31 rien__ [~rien_@static-71-249-187-201.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 17:57:57 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-120-221.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:58:18 -!- rien [~rien_@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:59:32 -!- rien__ [~rien_@static-71-249-187-201.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:03:15 -!- corruptmemory [~jim@96.246.167.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:03:47 -!- tronador_ [~guille@190.145.89.146] has quit [Quit: tronador_] 18:05:30 rien [~rien_@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:07:22 corruptmemory [~jim@96.246.167.18] has joined #scheme 18:09:14 ASau` [~user@95-26-230-11.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 18:13:38 -!- ASau 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quit [Quit: easy4] 18:46:51 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159852.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:56:51 erjiang [~erjiang@7.80.244.66.jest.smithvilledigital.net] has joined #scheme 19:00:11 zanes [~zane@wall.tripitinc.com] has joined #scheme 19:00:43 The community here tends to be pretty easygoing and tolerant, in my experience, of various implementations. 19:01:13 Better than some channels which seem pretty balkanized and aggresive *within* the channel. 19:01:52 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159852.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 19:06:54 Mkman [~Mkman@bl17-30-18.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 19:08:33 it is frustrating for users of those implementations with either fewer users or users who are not active in the channel 19:08:46 e.g. it's fine for racket, but gambit's channel is dead silent 19:11:39 dfkjjkfd [~paulh@210-11-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #scheme 19:14:43 -!- tessier [~treed@mail.copilotco.com] has quit [Changing host] 19:14:44 tessier 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[~walt@131.247.152.4] has joined #scheme 20:59:24 sup wingo 20:59:56 on the endless quest to empty my bug-guile mail folder :P 21:00:02 how goes in chickenlandia? 21:00:17 Pretty good 21:00:30 It looks like we're getting ready for a 4.7.0 release 21:01:29 excellent 21:01:34 I liked your presentation BTW. It was obvious you were having loads of fun :) 21:01:48 I hope it was obvious we did too :) 21:02:23 thanks, it was fun :) & real nice to meet you folks. 21:02:37 Did you have any idea about what kinds of people were in the rest of the audience? 21:02:39 we'll have to do it again next year and i can heckle you ;-) 21:02:42 Schemers, or others? 21:02:44 hehe 21:03:13 mostly gnu folks, some curious, but few serious schemers 21:03:31 which is fine imo; we have to turn more people into schemers :) 21:03:33 Did they follow along? 21:03:48 I had the idea that maybe it didn't mean much if you didn't know what was going on 21:03:52 there were quite a few "in jokes" :) 21:03:54 You went through the stuff pretty fast 21:03:59 yeah, that too :) 21:04:02 But that's okay 21:04:15 i hear that they did, though obviously different people are ready to understand different things... 21:04:35 y3llow_ [~y3llow@111-240-167-224.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:04:48 i think most people were at least passingly familiar with elisp, which helps 21:04:56 indeed 21:04:58 pothos_ [~pothos@111-240-167-224.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 21:05:59 unfortunately i missed felix's talk, out of stupidity (i forgot about it; too many pages in that durn schedule) 21:06:06 but hopefully it was videotaped 21:06:38 it was I think 21:06:40 It was 21:06:45 noonian [~noonian@wlan-nat-outside-222-61.uoregon.edu] has joined #scheme 21:06:45 But all copies should be burned 21:06:48 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-165-153.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:06:49 heh 21:06:51 -!- y3llow [~y3llow@111-240-165-153.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:06:58 -!- pothos_ is now known as pothos 21:06:58 Felix was very unhappy with how it went 21:07:02 -!- y3llow_ is now known as y3llow 21:07:09 aw, bummer. 21:07:23 He started explaining CPS and before he noticed, time was up 21:07:34 He didn't even get to the Cheney on the MTA part :( 21:07:43 damn! 21:07:54 that totally happens tho with these lightning talks 21:08:01 yeah he got lost in explanations 21:08:24 It requires too much previous knowledge on which it builds 21:08:36 If you're dealing with a general audience you'll need to explain ALL THAT 21:08:38 reminds me we should get the slides 21:08:57 ah yes 21:11:23 -!- waltermai [~walt@131.247.152.4] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:15:12 Nils^ [hammerfest@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-jmznrjfjcgllmbku] has joined #scheme 21:15:26 is there a standard scheme function to convert a number to a list of digits? 21:17:46 No, but you could do (string->list (number->string N)) 21:18:14 string->list converts to chars 21:18:35 indeed 21:19:03 You could also keep dividing by 10 until you get 0 21:19:28 is there a srfi or some portable library for making an http request? 21:19:36 or map the string->list chars against string and string->number or somethign 21:19:50 noonian: depends on your scheme system 21:19:52 noonian: There is none because there is no portable way to do TCP 21:20:04 noonian: there is no srfi but almost all systems offer this in a module 21:20:30 in a nonportable way as sjamaan pointed out correctly 21:20:55 hmm ok hehe, does anyone use larceny? 21:21:16 heh 21:21:35 Isn't larceny .net-based or something? 21:21:45 You could just talk to the .net API then 21:21:48 thats common larceny 21:21:55 it runs natively 21:23:47 pytho [8cb6ddbe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.221.190] has joined #scheme 21:24:13 noonian: can larceny open tcp connections? 21:25:09 sorry you did not come to a language called scheme but an idea called scheme with a zoo of implementations :) 21:25:30 hahaha 21:25:35 Welcome to the zoo 21:25:49 don't feed the animals 21:25:59 keep off the grass 21:26:02 *wingo* makes camel sounds 21:26:22 wingo, im not sure, im trying to find out now 21:26:36 or wildebeest movements ;-) 21:26:56 (make-string 1 char) is (char->string) so I can (map) around with this to create a number->digitlist function 21:27:53 there is also a string constructor (string obj) 21:28:02 wingo: No gnu? ;) 21:28:09 with a clicking sound? 21:28:30 but then I imagine sjamaan imitating a chicken 21:28:46 it is indeed a zoo 21:28:47 (map Char->String (string->list (number->string numbery))) 21:28:55 fantastic 21:29:07 Nils^: yeah it is awkward 21:29:32 bokbok 21:29:35 and there is an additional step where this list is converted to binary numbers. 21:29:48 Nils^: which scheme are you using? 21:29:49 thats the real purpose. I want a normal number converted to binary digits 21:29:53 C-Keen: guile 21:30:09 hm, if guile does have a fmt extension this might help 21:31:44 Nils^: http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/master/guile.html/Formatted-Output.html#Formatted-Output 21:31:45 http://tinyurl.com/4p28ptb 21:31:55 -!- langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:32:04 Nils^: format outputs binary numbers as a string 21:32:06 -!- alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:32:13 DrAfk [~duck@216.186.151.63] has joined #scheme 21:33:45 C-Keen: binary numbers or the digits of the number? 21:34:10 Nils^: numbers as binary and then you do your dance with the conversion 21:34:15 *string 21:34:23 my function, which is ready now, does 123 -> '(0001 0010 0011) 21:34:49 by doing 123 -> '(1 2 3) -> binary 21:35:02 sjamaan: i think a wildebeest is a gnu! 21:35:04 i think? 21:35:17 Nils^: now I am confused. What do you want to do again? 21:36:10 Nils^: did you mean "0001", etc as strings? 21:36:15 C-Keen: its all done. I wanted: 21:36:16 wingo: I think they're different animals, but I might be wrong 21:36:30 I don't know much about savannah animals :) 21:36:32 :) 21:36:43 123, a normal number. to a list of strings of the digits of that number in binary 21:36:59 I am so glad Felix did not use other animals for the name 21:37:07 haha 21:37:14 123 is '(1 2 3) is '("0001" "0010" "0011") 21:37:55 Nils^: ah ok, I first thought you wanted to convert 123 to binary and use those digits 21:40:42 adu [~ajr@pool-173-79-54-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:43:22 back to work. Thanks all 21:43:23 -!- Nils^ [hammerfest@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-jmznrjfjcgllmbku] has left #scheme 21:45:10 ok... 21:48:12 Caleb-- [thedude@bzq-79-182-198-211.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #scheme 21:49:28 -!- noonian [~noonian@wlan-nat-outside-222-61.uoregon.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54:27 hi guys, i'm trying to write a recursive program that will return the next-curious integer. x is curious if x + 1 is a perfect square, and when (+ (x/2) 1) is a perfect square.i have already made a program that can tell me if a number is curious, and i'm supposed to use it as a helper in this program.. but i am having trouble with understanding the recursive part. 21:55:45 i tried doing the box diagram to help me simplify the problem but i couldn't find out how to get back to the original answer 21:56:56 does anyone have a pointer? :} 21:57:38 _danb_ [~user@124-171-12-242.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 22:00:10 if x is next-curios return x, otehrwise check x + 1 22:01:25 -!- pytho [8cb6ddbe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.182.221.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:02:57 -!- ahc [~Antti@z241.ip6.netikka.fi] has left #scheme 22:04:53 alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 22:09:55 -!- rien [~rien_@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:10:02 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:12:09 -!- nilg [~user@77.70.2.229] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:15 HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-120-221.dip.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 22:28:50 -!- dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:28:56 fantazo [~fantazo@178-191-165-32.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #scheme 22:29:51 -!- rrm3_ [~rrm3@rrm3.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:11 rrm3 [~rrm3@rrm3.org] has joined #scheme 22:30:34 -!- pygospa is now known as Antifrauenquote 22:30:37 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 22:38:11 -!- Antifrauenquote is now known as pygospa 22:42:11 dfeuer [~dfeuer@pool-108-48-38-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:42:11 -!- dfeuer [~dfeuer@pool-108-48-38-131.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:42:11 dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has joined #scheme 22:47:37 -!- pygospa [~pygospa@kiel-5f768280.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: "*wein* Bäääh! 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Specifically, is this possible in Racket? 23:44:26 -!- tronador_ [~guille@190.145.89.146] has quit [Quit: tronador_] 23:45:45 danking, macros cannot do that, but reader macros -- which despite the name are completely different things -- can. Look up "read tables" to see what can be done. 23:47:35 -!- alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49:09 carleastlund: alright 23:51:55 -!- rgrau [~user@62.Red-88-2-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:56:32 rgrau [~user@62.Red-88-2-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 23:58:35 -!- corruptmemory [~jim@96.246.167.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]