00:00:39 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-56-100.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:01:11 hmm, it seems guile 1.9.14 has regressions :/ 00:01:16 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-109-154.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 00:07:10 -!- bitweiler [~bitweiler@adsl-99-40-236-82.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:49 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 00:12:22 nisse [~nisse@190.214.224.25] has joined #scheme 00:12:34 hi 00:14:35 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@42.Red-217-125-2.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15:11 -!- nisse [~nisse@190.214.224.25] has quit [Client Quit] 00:15:13 noonian: You have to use '|@| (if your implementation supports that). 00:15:18 bitweiler [~bitweiler@adsl-99-40-236-82.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:15:23 Oops, that was old news. 00:15:57 off-topic: but does anyone use an nntp reader? 00:16:23 I sometimes use Edwin's SNR (Simple News Reader). 00:16:25 I use Google Groups, does that count? :-P 00:16:27 nisse [~nisse@190.214.224.25] has joined #scheme 00:16:34 It's pretty kludgey and needs a lot of work. 00:17:13 just was trying to find a news server that has the comp.lang groups 00:17:33 -!- choas [~lars@p5792C6C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:18:01 hi 00:18:13 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 00:18:25 *fds* uses Gnus and Gmane occasionally 00:18:31 Oh. Sorry, I don't know. Most of the public Usenet servers went away. Andrew Cuomo killed many remaining ISPs' Usenet servers. 00:18:38 I haven't really got into nntp though 00:19:18 Riastradh: oh I see 00:19:26 does anyone know off-hand, by the way, how to activate paredit as a minor mode on *scheme* with M-x run-scheme? 00:19:46 Maybe your ISP provides a Usenet server; some still do. 00:19:52 klutometis, um, maybe with M-x paredit-mode RET? 00:21:24 Riastradh: of course; but it would be nice to do it automatically. maybe i can just mode-hook the *scheme* buffer. 00:22:28 (add-hook 'inferior-scheme-mode-hook 'enable-paredit-mode)? 00:23:41 Riastradh: perfect! (add-hook 'scheme-mode-hook (lambda () (paredit-mode +1))) did not do the trick. 00:25:24 Riastradh: att does but for some reason they don't acknowledge there users as legitmate users :( 00:26:27 anyway back to learning define-syntax 00:27:14 (I suggest `enable-paredit-mode' rather than `(lambda () (paredit-mode +1))' because one can easily remove-hook it.) 00:28:32 hi 00:29:05 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 00:32:41 necroforest [~jarred@pool-108-18-226-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 00:41:40 hi 00:43:32 :-P 00:45:31 -!- DrDuck [~duck@216.186.151.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:52:46 -!- bitweiler [~bitweiler@adsl-99-40-236-82.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55:23 -!- nisse [~nisse@190.214.224.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01:17 nisse [~nisse@190.214.219.87] has joined #scheme 01:02:14 Enter text here...hi 01:02:49 -!- nisse [~nisse@190.214.219.87] has quit [Client Quit] 01:10:31 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 01:11:15 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-109-154.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:11:21 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-41-84.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 01:15:23 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-92.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19:01 -!- dfkjjkfd [~paulh@145.120.22.20] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:24:12 morphbot [~morphbot@p57B5352A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 01:24:14 -!- morphbot [~morphbot@p57B5352A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #scheme 01:28:25 -!- mwolfe [~michael@64.134.220.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32:13 bitweiler [~bitweiler@adsl-99-40-236-82.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:34:55 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 01:45:46 Genosh|Off [~Genosh@189.Red-83-37-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 01:47:00 -!- karljoh [karljoh@h-79-127.A165.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 01:48:19 -!- Genosh [~Genosh@189.Red-83-37-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:51:55 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 01:53:10 -!- Genosh|Off [~Genosh@189.Red-83-37-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: http://quasiquote.me] 01:59:25 mwolfe [~michael@cpe-67-49-72-40.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:20:50 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-84-44-210-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:21:15 -!- wbooze [~user@xdsl-84-44-210-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:22:48 nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-30-29.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 02:23:29 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-41-84.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:36:38 DrDuck [~duck@66-168-225-64.static.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:37:24 -!- mwolfe [~michael@cpe-67-49-72-40.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:40:29 pnkfelix [~Adium@c-71-232-52-86.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:41:10 kent dybvig suggests, that the pattern part of define-syntax should always structure expression whose first element is an underscore 02:43:01 but looking at r5rs specs 7.3 Derived expression types I see that first element is also the name of the syntactic extension 02:43:16 they're synonymous 02:43:35 Quadrescence: what do you mean? 02:43:55 _ is just shorthand for the syntactic extension name 02:44:18 oh, I see thanks 03:10:17 -!- DrDuck [~duck@66-168-225-64.static.mtgm.al.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:12:36 Gmind [~Deulamco@113.190.182.165] has joined #scheme 03:12:56 homie [~user@xdsl-84-44-210-158.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 03:13:04 rudybot: eval (define-syntax foo (syntax-rules () [(foo _ a) a])) 03:13:05 jonrafkind: your sandbox is ready 03:13:05 jonrafkind: Done. 03:13:10 rudybot: eval (foo 1 2) 03:13:10 jonrafkind: ; Value: 2 03:13:23 _ is just a pattern variable, afaik 03:13:31 although it can't be used in a template 03:14:28 -!- ASau [~user@95-26-92-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15:31 -!- somnium [~user@184.42.0.205] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16:41 ASau [~user@95-26-92-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 03:19:54 zac314159 [~user@c-68-84-149-234.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:22:04 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@c-71-232-52-86.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:22:13 -!- ASau [~user@95-26-92-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:23:03 hypercube32 [~hypercube@158.102.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:24:04 jonrafkind: thanks but know I'm trying to understand pattern transformer and this ... notation 03:24:23 er s/know/now/ 03:24:44 fwiw there is no really good explanation of ... that I know of. i had to implement a macro transformer engine to really understand what was going on 03:25:08 i have a smallish (~200 lines) implementation in python if you want it 03:25:15 ASau [~user@95-26-92-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 03:25:38 jonrafkind: I don't understand python thanks though 03:25:44 ok 03:26:32 asm and shell scripting are the only other langs I know 03:26:51 scheme would be a nice addition 03:27:45 I think so as well, but I'm need to get past this pattern transformer stuff of define-syntax 03:29:40 i still dont know macros in scheme 03:30:09 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 03:31:28 noonian: I reading the scheme programming language, 3rd edition and Kent get to this in the 3 chapter so I figure it's must be important to know 03:32:01 id say ignore macros for now and just learn the rest of scheme 03:32:11 so I'm trying to learn so I can try some of the excerises in this chapter 03:32:18 scheme has so many abstractions above what asm/shell have that you wont need macros for a while 03:32:36 oh 03:33:43 I wonder why he wrote the book to get to macros so earlier in the book seem that should have be the last chapter ;) 03:34:07 im not so sure that book is the best for learning scheme.. 03:34:20 have you looked at htdp or sicp? 03:34:46 no, I was pointed to this book first 03:35:17 ok, you can do as you wish, but take a look at htdp.org and http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html 03:35:46 okay 03:40:18 i recommend sicp 03:41:08 noonian: why is that? 03:41:32 because in later chapter, it seem to be better than htdp 03:41:38 I read both 03:42:00 and htdp have some chapter based on DrScheme 03:42:09 and because all the exercises are pretty much standard scheme, whereas everything in htdp is in plt scheme/ratchet and not standard scheme 03:42:22 that's right :)) 03:42:27 the purposes of sicp and hdtp are totally unrelated. 03:42:28 totally agree w/ noonian 03:42:38 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:42:38 ratchet :p its racket 03:42:39 :P ya, they have different reason 03:42:43 my bad :P 03:42:50 sicp is NOT about schem AT ALL. 03:43:07 except that it uses scheme a lot 03:43:08 yep , but mostly 03:43:13 =)) 03:43:16 that's the point 03:43:23 pjb: what is it about? 03:43:29 bitweiler: Programming. 03:43:35 ;) 03:43:50 jonrafkind: That's like saying TAOCP is a great book for learning assembly because lots of its sample code uses assembly. 03:43:51 so what is tspl3 about? 03:43:55 bitweiler: Scheme. 03:44:14 at least, in sicp , you will know about a lot of programming technique in scheme 03:44:24 cky, so why isnt it? 03:44:24 Gmind: No, they're general programming techniques. 03:44:27 -!- hypercube32 [~hypercube@158.102.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:44:33 yep :P 03:44:33 There are wikis giving the sicp exercises in various languages, even C++! 03:44:37 jonrafkind: Because TAOCP's scope is about fundamentals of computer science, not assembly. 03:44:42 pjb: Exactly. :-) 03:44:45 can you not learn assembly by reading it? 03:44:56 jonrafkind: As a side-effect, yes, but that's not its primary purpose. 03:45:04 so then you can. QED 03:45:09 jonrafkind: And I certainly wouldn't recommend it for people whose main goal is to learn assembly. 03:45:24 okay, I'll check out scip, I finish tspl3 03:45:30 wtf is this about. you can learn scheme by reading sicp 03:45:36 cky: heck, but especially appliable in SCheme or Lisp 03:45:37 why the pedantisism.. sheesh 03:45:46 Indeed, but that's because you can learn lisp in half an hour. 03:45:46 03:45:53 pjb: :-) 03:45:58 sicp will teach you how to program, and you will also learn scheme on accident 03:46:04 noonian: Exactly. 03:46:09 *bitweiler* chuckles 03:46:26 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: night!] 03:46:37 with tspl3 it probably covers all facets of the scheme programming language, even ones you don't need to know about yet pedagogically 03:46:37 thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.. can learn lisp in an hour 03:46:57 jonrafkind: why's not ? 03:47:09 depend on your background :P 03:47:37 5 minutes for the syntax, 2 for conditionals, 23 getting to know the stdlib... right? 03:47:38 bitweiler, the little schemer is also good for learning to think recursively 03:47:43 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 03:48:03 noonian: It's also great for teaching you to use the Y combinator, on how to write your own Scheme interpreter, etc. Great stuff. :-) 03:48:26 Goes to show, quantity != quality. :-) 03:48:29 hehe 03:48:32 I have the little schemer and reason schemer here both great books 03:48:45 oh, u 're lucky 03:48:46 =.= 03:48:48 bitweiler: Do you have The Seasoned Schemer? It directly leads on from The Little Schemer. 03:48:58 bitweiler: I have read both, but not The Reasoned Schemer yet. 03:49:07 let me check 03:50:20 oh my bad, it's the seasoned schemer not reasoned 03:50:26 god... my book hasn't come yet 03:50:34 bitweiler: :-) 03:50:44 is it worth reading The Reasoned Schemer after Little and Seasoned if your interest is not in logic programming? 03:50:52 or is the focus of the book very narrow? 03:51:03 I'd be keen to know the answer to that question too. 03:51:10 I'll buy the book and let you know. 03:51:11 :-P 03:51:15 deal 03:51:19 hahaha 03:51:21 I always wanted to try my hand at writing a theorem prover. 03:51:27 And I suppose that book might help with that. 03:52:14 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:52:41 timj_ [~timj@e176192117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 03:52:55 I have only read half of the seasoned schemer, but it deals with functions as values, and that is as for as I got 03:54:43 to me I think it's worth the read after little schemer 03:54:57 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:55:47 -!- timj__ [~timj@e176198006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:59:36 :-) 03:59:45 I skimmed through both books; they're a good read. 04:00:23 If i can get past learning macros I think I'll be good ;) 04:02:32 Me too. 04:02:55 The trouble is, there are many different macro systems around, so, deciding which ones to learn is...interesting. 04:03:23 Like, there's syntax-rules, syntax-case, explicit renaming, etc. 04:03:46 wbooze [~user@xdsl-84-44-210-158.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 04:04:07 -!- nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-30-29.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:04:20 nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-16-10.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 04:05:33 well I'm going to take it one step at a time, I can only crawl before learning to walk 04:06:04 Hehehe. 04:07:13 Azuvix [~Azuvix@71-215-25-216.bois.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 04:10:57 TheSeparateOne [~jeffrey@ip72-207-124-108.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:11:34 DrDuck [~duck@66-168-225-64.static.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:15:11 -!- davazp [~user@3.Red-83-46-6.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15:41 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 04:19:35 so what is the purpose of the ... ellipsis use in syntax-rules? 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05:56:57 bitweiler: It does work, as far as I know, but the IRC bot doesn't. 05:57:12 oh 05:57:17 bitweiler: After you paste, simply go to the paste.lisp.org index page, and cut and paste the link. 05:57:54 bitweiler: There is talk of assembling a task force to rewrite the system in Chicken. 05:58:40 just a bot that pastes to paste.lisp.org? 05:58:48 http://paste.lisp.org/display/117835 05:59:17 bitweiler: No, that won't work. 05:59:48 I notice but was trying to figure out why 05:59:50 You need to do, at a minimum, (if (t) (begin e1 e2 ...)) 06:00:10 But, even that seems wrong. 06:00:14 I'd do this: 06:00:43 what is the begin form for? 06:00:50 rudybot: (define-syntax when (syntax-rules () ((when p e ...) (if p (begin e ...))))) 06:00:50 cky: your sandbox is ready 06:00:51 cky: Done. 06:01:04 rudybot: (when #t (display "Hello, world!") (newline)) 06:01:05 cky: AFAIK, only Acrobat itself will actually display partial PDFs though. 06:01:11 rudybot: eval (when #t (display "Hello, world!") (newline)) 06:01:12 cky: error: eval:1:0: if: bad syntax (must have an "else" expression) in: (if #t (begin (display "Hello, world!") (newline))) 06:01:18 *rolls eyes* 06:01:22 rudybot: init r5rs 06:01:22 cky: your r5rs sandbox is ready 06:01:25 rudybot: (define-syntax when (syntax-rules () ((when p e ...) (if p (begin e ...))))) 06:01:26 cky: Done. 06:01:29 rudybot: eval (when #t (display "Hello, world!") (newline)) 06:01:29 cky: ; stdout: "Hello, world!\n" 06:02:06 bitweiler: "begin" evaluates all the expressions inside it, from left to right, and returns the value of the last expression. 06:02:21 oh 06:02:22 what was that error about? 06:02:42 noonian: By default, Racket does not like the (if pred foo) form, but wants (if pred foo bar) instead. 06:02:55 huh 06:03:08 noonian: The "init r5rs" loads up R5RS mode, which does enable the (if pred foo) version. 06:03:59 ah thanks 06:04:04 bitweiler: Notice that I moved the predicate outside of brackets. It's silly to require brackets for the predicate; that's too C-like. 06:04:14 rudybot: init r6rs 06:04:15 noonian: error: r6rs: must contain a `library' form (for a library) or start with `import' (for a top-level program) in: (#%module-begin) 06:04:49 noonian: R6RS doesn't support interactive use, IIRC, so you can't say "init r6rs" with rudybot. 06:04:59 ok 06:05:16 does racket provide an interactive r6rs or err5rs? 06:05:25 noonian: Racket provides interactive Racket. 06:05:30 noonian: It does not implement ERR5RS. 06:06:27 parolang [~user@c-64-246-121-114.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #scheme 06:06:28 noonian: ERR5RS is generally supported by anti-R6RS people; the Racket team is generally pro-R6RS. :-P 06:06:44 noonian: So, politically speaking, Racket has no motivation to implement ERR5RS. 06:07:09 cky: I notice that so how do you know when to use the brackets? 06:07:41 bitweiler: You use brackets when it's useful to. e.g., the variable binding forms in let/let*/letrec, or the condition forms in cond. 06:08:00 oh, thanks 06:08:47 rudybot: init r6rs "(import (rnrs)) (display 'hello)" 06:08:48 noonian: expecting: init [] 06:09:17 rudybot: init r5rs 06:09:17 noonian: your r5rs sandbox is ready 06:10:56 -!- kniu [~kniu@pool-71-106-0-142.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:19:27 -!- kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-33-145.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:20:31 dfkjjkfd [~paulh@145.120.22.20] has joined #scheme 06:21:23 kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-73-92.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 06:26:32 -!- parolang [~user@c-64-246-121-114.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27:21 cky: thanks again that help to understand how to define unless as well ;) 06:29:23 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@unaffiliated/arbscht] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:29:58 lewis1711 [~lewis@222-155-162-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 06:30:24 http://paste.lisp.org/display/117836 06:30:59 -!- eayers0734 [~eayers073@c-71-62-80-167.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31:15 arbscht [~arbscht@unaffiliated/arbscht] has joined #scheme 06:33:59 noonian: the practical hope is that R7RS is inoffensive enough that everyone supports it 06:34:13 caplock [~yaaic@221.11.61.196] has joined #scheme 06:34:25 -!- offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:37:09 I still don't get what the effective difference is between using set! to modify a value, and redefining it. in what cases is their a distinction to the programmer? 06:38:10 set! is just an assignment operator to my understanding 06:38:31 sunnyps [~sunnyps@133.snat-111-91-106.hns.net.in] has joined #scheme 06:38:48 so is redefining, surly 06:38:53 *surely 06:39:13 In other than the top-level, define is the same thing as set!. 06:39:54 so set! can't be use in the top-level? 06:40:08 It can, but not the first time. 06:40:41 set! expects a preexisting variable. define defines a new variable. 06:41:07 it would make much more sense of define didn't reassign pre-existing variables 06:41:31 You can imagine it doesn't. 06:41:40 lol 06:41:50 I can also imagine C++ is enjoyable to write 06:41:52 ;) 06:42:19 -!- mmc [~michal@cs27120227.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:42:21 I suppose once i learn more scheme i could use some kind of macro for define to do that, maybe 06:43:09 based on googling, it doesn't seem to be of any concern to the scheme community, which perplexes me 06:44:04 lewis1711: the reason is because there are two way to use scheme. 06:44:10 lewis1711: why not just use define and set! when needed? 06:44:18 either at the REPL, or batch-compiling programs. 06:44:21 why does it perplex you? 06:44:47 In a program source, you would define the variables only once. The compiler could report warnings if there are several defines of the same variable in a file. 06:44:57 chemuduguntar: because scheme effectively lacks any way to define a constant. 06:45:13 But when you're doing interactive development, it's assumed that you want to re-define a variable when you use define again, because you're correcting a bug. 06:45:25 Therefore define changes the value the other times. 06:45:43 ohh, what do you know, it does warn me when I compile 06:46:05 :P 06:46:36 though I can compile this 06:46:37 (define eval 3) 06:47:06 But you probably should not... 06:47:08 you could probably write your own type that wraps another type 06:47:11 -!- sunnyps [~sunnyps@133.snat-111-91-106.hns.net.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:47:47 pjb: sure, but I'm a noob and haven't remembered every single pre-defined procedure scheme has. shouldn't the compiler warn me? indeed, *do* some implementations warn you? 06:50:41 Perhaps. I've not tried them all. 06:52:03 In no sensible Scheme system does (define eval 3) have any non-local undesirable consequences. 06:53:09 hmm, I guess it would be local to the file 06:55:23 what's the proper term for stuff like eval that is already built into the language? 06:56:45 -!- martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:57:39 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 07:00:21 lewis1711, I think he means local in the context of block structure and lexical scope 07:00:25 and seiously, being able to redefine eval is still...really odd in my opinion, with no warning. even if it is local 07:02:02 because it doesn't affect your program in any way except for in the scope that you have redifined it 07:02:07 defined* 07:02:42 -!- incubot [incubot@klutometis.wikitex.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:55 unless you define it at the top level 07:05:02 correct 07:05:55 I can see no reason why this isn't poor behaviour. you are expected to check every single thing you define to check it's not part of the language? that's absurd 07:08:19 -!- drdo [~user@2.208.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:09:40 well it's not an issue unless you are actually using those procedures, and If you defined them yourself then I would assume that your implementation is your desired behavior anyway? 07:11:20 -!- zac314159 [~user@c-68-84-149-234.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12:11 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 07:12:12 until you find out you want the procedure foo, then you'd have to do a load of refactoring...which could have all been avoided if you'd been warned 07:12:14 and a lot of features are implemented as srfi's 07:14:03 zac314159 [~user@c-68-84-149-234.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:15:18 it looks like the compiler will stop you, at least in r6rs 07:15:28 martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 07:15:30 Warning: You wrote (let ((x ...)) ...). You may have wanted to use a different meaning for x, which this binding would shadow. Continue? (y/n) 07:15:43 Warning: You wrote (let ((zot ...)) ...). You may have wanted to use a different meaning for zot, which this binding would shadow. Continue? (y/n) 07:16:49 Error: no handler for exception #Compound condition has these components: # who : define # message : "Redefinition of identifier in body"# form : (define cons 3) subform : cons Terminating program execution. 07:17:22 looks like I need to use r6rs then 07:17:23 (elisp-mode) 07:18:05 in r6rs its required to check the program over before executing any of it, which precludes interactive development 07:18:07 Geeesh. What a stupidly impenetrable error message. 07:18:28 yeah lol, the debugger sucks 07:19:23 hmm 07:19:27 "top-level-program: expected an `import' declaration, found something else" 07:19:43 when I try and switch to rgrs. wonder if it's in the TSPL, I'll search 07:19:58 in r6rs you will need at least (import (rnrs)) at the top probably 07:21:47 -!- martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22:47 oh wow, nothing I wrote in racket works. 07:25:10 "expand: unbound identifier in module in: define" gah, pretty sure define is valid scheme:P 07:25:45 Did you put `#!r6rs' at the top of the file? 07:26:37 yeap 07:26:46 #!r6rs 07:26:47 (import (r6rs)) 07:27:15 (import (rnrs)) 07:27:55 ah. here I was thinking n meant insert your own number 07:28:17 yeah hehe, can be confusing. did that fix it? 07:28:53 it did ^_^ 07:29:04 cool 07:29:09 though I can still redefine eval and all with impunity. what implementation were you using that slapped your wrist about it? 07:30:01 If you are doing it in interactive mode i doubt any of them will. But i tried with ikarus, larceny, and plt-r6rs and they all complained 07:31:07 for this program: http://pastebin.com/PuW6mThr 07:31:10 -!- kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-73-92.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:31:21 lewis17111 [~lewis@125-239-215-52.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 07:31:29 kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-70-24.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 07:32:24 oh, i know why 07:32:44 eval is not imported by (rnrs) so you arent redefining anything 07:33:01 (import (rnrs) (rnrs eval)) 07:33:34 right you are 07:33:42 I need to search up on this rnrs thing, I don't get it 07:34:14 -!- lewis1711 [~lewis@222-155-162-195.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:34:35 -!- lewis17111 is now known as lewis1711 07:36:53 here: http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-1.html 07:37:32 each topic is a library 07:38:05 and (rnrs) is the base language I think 07:38:25 aha 07:40:18 mmc [~michal@cs27120227.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 07:42:18 hmm, turns out most of the things I didn't like about scheme were racket specific then. hmm 07:42:24 sunnyps [~sunnyps@62.snat-111-91-106.hns.net.in] has joined #scheme 07:42:28 I guess they did change the name to racket:P 07:46:22 yeah, that was my only problem with it. I thought I was learning scheme but learned a non-standard syntax first 07:56:44 -!- TheSeparateOne [~jeffrey@ip72-207-124-108.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:45 TheSeparateOne [~jeffrey@ip72-207-124-108.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #scheme 08:03:19 -!- mmc [~michal@cs27120227.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:08:31 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-116-29.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 08:18:35 "procedure r6rs:eval: expects 2 arguments," 08:18:39 wow racket really is different 08:21:18 no, thats r6rs 08:22:29 right, I meant that's an error I am getting transferring to r6rs 08:22:32 *lewis1711* googles about environments 08:23:50 (eval '(+ 1 3) (environment '(rnrs))) 08:24:15 yeah I found that in TPSL but I don't really 'get it' 08:25:52 hmmm, I think it pulls in the stuff from rnrs, so if i use it in eval it will recogise it 08:25:58 as well as stuff in the current file 08:26:13 the environment is what procedures are defined for the scope of whats to be evaluated 08:27:32 (eval '(+ 1 3) (environment '(rnrs) '(rnrs mutable-pairs))) 08:27:53 and environment takes arbitrary number of args which are libraries 08:28:11 -!- bitweiler [~bitweiler@adsl-99-40-236-82.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has left #scheme 08:28:49 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-168.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 08:30:29 ah. though I am tempted to just go (define std-env (environment '(rnrs))) or something 08:32:28 rajeshsr [~rajeshsr@115.184.44.61] has joined #scheme 08:33:13 hmm, im not sure how it works exactly, because what about procedures you define 08:33:34 yeah they'd be in there 08:33:45 they should not be in that environment 08:33:53 they should be in a different environment 08:35:35 ohhh 08:35:48 deep man. ok how about 08:36:00 (environment '(rnrs) '(nameofthisfile)) 08:39:15 kniu [~kniu@pool-71-106-0-142.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 08:45:51 femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-125-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 08:47:11 -!- pchrist_ [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:47:46 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 08:48:05 i don't know racket, normally this should be named the current environment 08:48:13 or top-level or user 08:51:31 is there a way to get a reference to the current environment? 08:52:31 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-87-22.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 08:53:14 ecraven: I have abandoned racket, using rgrs now 08:53:30 racket doesn't even apply an environment argument to eval anyway 08:53:37 -!- kephas [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-70-24.w92-141.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:54:44 racket is really a collection of languages 08:55:25 it has the racket one which is preferred for them, but also an r5rs and r6rs mode plus teaching languages and stuff 08:56:52 ah 08:57:27 can anyone recommend a nice r6rs one that I could use for embedding in C? I know that's probably impossible but.. 08:58:59 i dont know about embedding in c, but ikarus and larceny are fast r6rs implementations and racket has one too. 08:59:47 rgrs? 08:59:54 there is a version of larceny that compiles to c and most scheme implementations have a foreign function interface for calling other code 09:00:11 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00:22 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-116-29.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:00:27 I think he meant r6rs' 09:03:25 yeah 09:03:26 rgrs 09:03:33 agh 09:03:36 lol 09:03:36 r6rs 09:03:47 because I have a book about it right here 09:04:40 btw what is the chatroom policy on intoxicated people? i am high but still wanna scheme it up 09:09:14 im high on life 09:09:39 that too man 09:10:04 I'm gonna clean up my algebra system thing 09:24:10 kuribas [~user@d54C2AE2C.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 09:30:01 -!- sunnyps 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