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some references 11:06:45 <`micro> http://www.randomhacks.net/articles/2002/09/13/hygienic-macros 11:06:47 <`micro> and 11:06:57 <`micro> http://p-cos.net/documents/hygiene.pdf 11:07:53 thanks `micro I just read http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-vs-common-lisp but will look at the other links you gave .. 11:12:33 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-63-152.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 11:21:08 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:21:12 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 11:21:36 -!- bohanlon [~bohanlon@pool-173-48-104-141.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Back later!] 11:24:16 jao [~user@74.Red-80-24-4.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 11:30:57 rdd` [~rdd@c83-250-48-164.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 11:34:44 -!- rdd [~rdd@c83-250-48-164.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:35:47 -!- rdd` [~rdd@c83-250-48-164.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 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