00:03:23 -!- hotblack23 [~jh@p57B5B9B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:04:17 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 00:06:32 -!- tommc [464983db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.73.131.219] has quit [*.net *.split] 00:10:44 -!- forcer [~forcer@g231162228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:27:02 quietstorm [~quietstor@66.44.225.111] has joined #scheme 00:27:44 Quick Q. How do I add the quote character (') to a list of characters? For example: (a b c ') 00:29:23 #\' is the quote character I guess 00:29:27 do you want the symbol ' ? 00:29:33 forcer [~forcer@g231161032.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 00:30:12 you can type it like this, '|'| 00:30:14 Yeah, I've been pulling my hair out with this for a while? :-) 00:30:26 or like this (string->symbol (string #\')) 00:30:40 (this is all in racket, i dont know about other systems) 00:30:44 what scheme system are you using? 00:31:27 Ah I see. I'm using racket right now. 00:31:36 That outputs '|'|, though, it seems. 00:31:54 thats how the printer will show you a quote symbol 00:32:03 since quote is specially handled by the reader 00:32:16 Ah, ok. That makes sense. 00:32:16 (symbol->string '|'|) 00:32:16 "'" 00:32:22 I guess I was overyhinking it... :-) 00:32:33 Thanks!! 00:32:44 sure 00:35:06 -!- quietstorm [~quietstor@66.44.225.111] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:37:23 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 00:38:41 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:53 -!- saint_cypher [~rjspotter@70-36-245-104.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:41:05 -!- museun [~what@h-66-167-50-47.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:36 rbarraud [~rbarraud@118-92-153-145.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #scheme 00:51:03 museun [~what@h-66-167-50-47.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #scheme 01:04:26 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 01:07:38 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw229253.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:17:36 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:22:22 -!- SirNick [~nick@199.223.126.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:23:58 araujo [~araujo@190.199.102.96] has joined #scheme 01:23:58 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.199.102.96] has quit [Changing host] 01:23:58 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 01:28:31 mjonsson [~mjonsson@cpe-98-14-173-5.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:31:56 Jafet1 [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 01:32:16 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:32:27 -!- Jafet1 is now known as Jafet 01:35:49 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@cpe-98-14-173-5.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:54 lacrymology [~lacrymolo@71-148-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #scheme 01:43:54 hm 01:44:02 having trouble with the pastebin 01:45:27 anyways, I'm having problems with code that looks sort of like this: 01:45:51 (let ((m (- n 1)) (row (modulo m 10)) ..... 01:46:04 it complains about undefined identifier m 01:46:21 I thought you were supposed to be able to do that 01:48:49 You can, if you use let*. 01:50:18 so it's (let* ((m.. etc? 01:50:35 now I'm nesting (let)s and I feel it awful 01:51:07 -!- pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:52:00 ok, that worked 01:52:17 and what will happen if I redefine a symbol in a (let? 01:52:31 like (let ((n (- n 1))... 01:52:59 -!- megajosh2 [~megajosh2@unaffiliated/megajosh2] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:53:01 No idea, but it won't be pleasant. 01:54:39 mjonsson [~mjonsson@cpe-98-14-173-5.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:54:55 The expression is evaluated in the environment LET is used in, not in the environment that LET creates. 01:55:18 (let ((n 5)) (let ((n (- n 1))) n)) => 4 01:55:52 forcer: as I was expecting 01:56:03 but it doesn't seem to work all well in what I'm using 01:56:18 maybe there's a problem with my particular interpreter, or whatever flavour of scheme I'm using 01:57:01 If the line I posted does not evaluate to 4 in your interpreter, it is broken. 01:58:01 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-40-104.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58:43 forcer: it does, it was the let vs let* thing again 01:59:39 when I used the same symbol let used the original value to initalize the other values, I guess. with let* it worked fine 01:59:58 I don't know if that made sense the way I said it, but it's what happened XD 02:01:16 It sounds as if your implementation is buggy. 02:01:53 forcer: possibly. It's fluxus. 02:02:39 or maybe if I paste the whole code it'll be nicer to understand 02:04:17 -!- snorble [~snorble@s83-179-14-105.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:04:42 I'll be gone pretty soon 02:05:50 yeah, it doesn't matter 02:06:09 thanks for your time 02:13:58 gabot [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 02:16:13 Scala_ [~agscala@d27-96-95-3.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #scheme 02:31:07 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-187.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:38:24 xwl [~user@117.79.235.142] has joined #scheme 02:45:51 fod [~fod@212.129.64.222] has joined #scheme 02:47:41 -!- fod [~fod@212.129.64.222] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52:36 timj__ [~timj@e176192217.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 02:55:58 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176196151.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:56:35 pjb [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 02:58:02 -!- xwl [~user@117.79.235.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:59:12 xwl [~user@117.79.235.142] has joined #scheme 03:06:50 http://scheme.pastebin.com/kLV0j8Uh 03:06:57 Could someone point me in the right direction? 03:07:21 I'm trying to list permutations of (1 2 3) 03:07:36 it is homework but I have worked rather hard on it 03:07:42 just looking for a bit of guidance 03:08:24 for some reason the map is grabbing a list of lists instead of just a single list out of that list of lists 03:09:58 is there a way to remove an outer list from a list? 03:10:04 I've been trying to figure that one out 03:10:22 so like ((a)) => (a) 03:10:38 the output of the map might be my problem perhaps? 03:10:47 permutations are surprisingly tricky 03:10:59 indeed :) 03:11:08 lemme stare at your stuff for a while. 03:11:17 I just drank 750ml of Duvel, so I might not be all that helpful. 03:11:28 yummy 03:11:38 I think that is brewed in cooperstown, NY 03:11:58 I like Ommegang Abbey Ale :D 03:13:43 http://paste.lisp.org/display/115126 03:13:49 ^ that is probably easier to read 03:13:59 better syntax highlighting 03:14:08 heh. You're so damned close :) 03:14:17 indeed 03:14:21 http://gist.github.com/607231 03:14:31 I just need to strip off the outer list from map I think 03:15:02 see it? 03:15:33 eeks 03:15:35 sweet deal :D 03:16:06 thanks a bunch :) it works! 03:16:20 so ... why "list-append" instead of "append"? 03:16:25 and "list-length" instead of "length"? 03:16:37 instructor wrote his own primitives for some reason 03:16:52 it's kind nice yet annoying at the same time causes it messed up my syntax highlighting 03:18:16 some schemes have a built-in "append-map": 03:18:19 eval (append-map (lambda (x) (list (add1 x))) (list 1 2 3)) 03:18:21 rudybot: eval (append-map (lambda (x) (list (add1 x))) (list 1 2 3)) 03:18:21 *offby1: ; Value: (2 3 4) 03:18:39 that seems rather handy 03:18:46 I didn't remember seeing apply before 03:18:48 don't think I ever actually use it 03:18:56 ooooh "apply" is crucial. 03:18:59 gotta have it. 03:19:08 even Python has it (they call it something else of course) 03:19:10 indeed 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