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Way better. 15:36:00 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39:01 oh yeah. 15:44:11 femtoo [~femto@95-89-248-241-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 15:48:40 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-248-241-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:48:56 eli: that sounds hot 15:49:15 It is. 15:50:09 Not available to minors under 18. 15:53:04 gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.78.231.54] has joined #scheme 15:54:39 *FurnaceBoy* can't even see that line from where he's sitting 15:54:55 *FurnaceBoy* puts on bifocals... 15:56:26 nice try kid. Get your dad to buy your porn 15:56:38 LOL 15:57:36 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 16:02:55 sepp2k [~sexy@p548CD760.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 16:06:28 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 16:12:11 klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:31:43 -!- alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:46:25 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 16:47:36 vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@122.166.149.142] has joined #scheme 16:52:42 jewel [~jewel@196.210.187.107] has joined #scheme 17:02:23 Scala_ [~agscala@216.0.90.226] has joined #scheme 17:11:03 -!- yorick [~yorick@unaffiliated/yorick] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:13:28 yorick [yorick@unaffiliated/yorick] has joined #scheme 17:27:54 -!- museun [~what@h-66-167-50-47.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:31:25 -!- Scala_ [~agscala@216.0.90.226] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:35:34 Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@cambridge-vxty.basistech.com] has joined #scheme 18:09:56 Scala_ [~agscala@216.0.90.226] has joined #scheme 18:10:55 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 18:11:41 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:24:23 museun [~what@h-66-167-50-47.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #scheme 18:24:23 -!- museun [~what@h-66-167-50-47.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:24:49 museun [~what@h-66-167-50-47.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #scheme 18:28:14 -!- Scala_ [~agscala@216.0.90.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:39:36 Adamant [~Adamant@c-69-136-200-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:39:37 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@c-69-136-200-213.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:39:37 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 18:43:10 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 19:00:45 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@122.166.149.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:18 -!- wingo [~wingo@81.38.181.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:13:28 -!- jewel [~jewel@196.210.187.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:18:06 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:18:21 langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 19:22:56 Blkt [~user@93-33-134-28.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 19:24:05 good evening everyone 19:37:23 -!- Nils^ [steele@beegees.mtveurope.org] has left #scheme 19:41:22 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-190.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:41:52 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-190.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 19:47:07 -!- Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@cambridge-vxty.basistech.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58:07 hotblack23 [~jh@p57BD7C1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:01:38 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:41 aidalgol [~user@202.36.179.68] has joined #scheme 20:03:24 lbc [~lbc@0909ds1-sdb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 20:03:59 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 20:11:45 schmir [~schmir@p54A90311.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 20:17:06 cracktery [bc521fb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.31.179] has joined #scheme 20:17:08 hey 20:17:18 hey 20:17:25 i have a question, why read SICP for someone how already program? 20:17:34 do you know how to write an interpreter? 20:17:55 nobody already knows how to program 20:17:59 +1 20:18:17 it's like saying you know physics or biology 20:18:18 any more than they can write a great novel out of high school 20:18:19 you know bits and pieces 20:18:21 jonrafkind: no, i dont 20:18:38 cracktery, then SICP is useful. learning how to create interpreters will help you appricate how other lnaguages are built 20:19:04 it's also a very different approach than the one most introductions to programming take 20:19:11 but scheme is () wierd 20:19:12 lol 20:19:22 yes it is, but you will get passed that at some point probably 20:19:26 no, imperative programming is weird :) 20:20:11 cracktery, once you learn about interpreters you might appreciate how macros work. () syntax is nice for macros because they dont add in extra syntactic complexity 20:20:29 cracktery: you'll find SICP wholly beneficial if you can set aside preconceptions 20:20:59 i dont have preconceptions, i like to learn always more 20:21:08 thinking () is weird is a preconception :) 20:21:11 i dont care if it is in french 20:21:20 i will learn it 20:21:36 FurnaceBoy, hows the view from your high horse? 20:21:51 i think that Linux is weird and i love it 20:21:51 let me know if it rains so i can get my umbrella 20:22:02 -!- aidalgol [~user@202.36.179.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:17 jonrafkind: i am not intending to sound superior. i'm a n00b going thru sicp also 20:22:24 jonrafkind: i'm sorry if you read my comments that way. 20:23:30 jonrafkind: I'm *really* a n00b. sicp is humbling, which is what i was trying to convey. so i think perhaps my tone was misconstrued. 20:24:04 -!- cracktery [bc521fb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.31.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:25:02 aidalgol [~user@202.36.179.68] has joined #scheme 20:27:16 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 20:28:01 -!- luz [~David@139.82.89.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34:21 *pumpkin* invites FurnaceBoy to join him on the top of the ivory tower 20:34:26 way better view up here than that high horse 20:34:44 pumpkin: is there pie 20:35:02 pumpkin: btw, stop throwing grapes down on me and the horse 20:35:02 hmm, I could get the cook to make some 20:35:24 pumpkin: i'm in. unlock the door pls? 20:35:32 are you good enough? 20:35:48 pumpkin: absolutely not. i suck. i think i'm still plodding through Chapter 1. 20:36:05 pumpkin: the horse is more of a giant rat. goes faster backwards than forwards. 20:36:29 oh okay 20:36:35 back downstairs then 20:36:39 pumpkin: so anyway i'll come back when i'm awesome ok 20:36:48 okay 20:38:48 FurnaceBoy: rodents of unusual size? 20:39:12 Adamant: definitely, if somebody mistook it for a horse 20:40:57 FurnaceBoy: have fun storming the castle of SICP's later chapters! 20:41:28 Adamant: i plan to. wish i could throw more time at sicp. 20:42:01 rbarraud [~rbarraud@118-92-140-168.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #scheme 20:42:09 molbdnilo [~Ove@c80-216-202-29.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 20:42:25 FurnaceBoy: just work on it slow and steady. for those of us that are smart but didn't get into MIT, it takes a bit of marination in your brain for it to have it's full effect anyway 20:43:12 indeed 20:50:34 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:55:49 -!- aidalgol [~user@202.36.179.68] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:56:22 klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:56:41 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:00:24 thomasp_ [~thomasp@188.177.191.81] has joined #scheme 21:00:30 klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:01:23 thomasp_ pasted "Problems with list" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/115037 21:02:50 -!- langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:02:51 basically it runs through a list and cons it with the accumulated result. however when I give it (list (list *)) it only gives back the first element and not the entire list. what am I missing? 21:03:29 patric [~chatzilla@c-14bee555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 21:05:05 oh, wrong code. very sorry :( 21:06:16 -!- sepp2k [~sexy@p548CD760.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: sepp2k] 21:08:03 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 21:08:47 csl [~anonymous@85.84-234-202.customer.lyse.net] has joined #scheme 21:13:16 -!- martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13:40 martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 21:14:27 LukeL [unknown@unaffiliated/lukel] has joined #scheme 21:15:08 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 21:18:50 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A90311.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:13 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:31:16 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:16 do remi 21:31:51 -!- patric [~chatzilla@c-14bee555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914125854]] 21:33:29 fod [~fod@92.251.255.5.threembb.ie] has joined #scheme 21:37:55 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 21:38:14 bgs100 [~ian@h20.46.186.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #scheme 21:38:14 -!- bgs100 [~ian@h20.46.186.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:38:14 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 21:38:15 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:07 -!- FurnaceBoy [~FurnaceBo@bas2-toronto10-2925235460.dsl.bell.ca] has left #scheme 21:43:31 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 21:45:55 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:57:56 megajosh2 [~megajosh2@pool-96-241-38-130.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:58:31 -!- molbdnilo [~Ove@c80-216-202-29.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: molbdnilo] 22:03:27 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:05:06 Scala_ [~agscala@198.111.39.24] has joined #scheme 22:07:41 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 22:15:22 -!- Blkt [~user@93-33-134-28.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:15:26 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.78.231.54] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:12 -!- jay-mccarthy [~jay@lallab.cs.byu.edu] has quit [Quit: jay-mccarthy] 22:28:17 alaricsp [~alaric@mukhadvaram.gurukuli.co.uk] has joined #scheme 22:28:28 -!- fradgers- [~fradgers-@5e0aadb6.bb.sky.com] has left #scheme 22:30:02 -!- thomasp_ [~thomasp@188.177.191.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:30:33 jay-mccarthy [~jay@lallab.cs.byu.edu] has joined #scheme 22:32:27 thomasp_ [~thomasp@188.177.191.81] has joined #scheme 22:37:01 -!- csl [~anonymous@85.84-234-202.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: csl] 22:49:18 -!- Scala_ [~agscala@198.111.39.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50:12 -!- danbrown [~jdanbrown@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: danbrown] 22:53:11 SirNick [~nick@199.223.126.66] has joined #scheme 23:06:31 -!- Nshag [user@lns-bzn-40-82-251-172-184.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:13:50 Scala_ [~agscala@198.111.39.24] has joined #scheme 23:16:32 wbooze` [~user@xdsl-87-79-55-78.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:16:33 homie` [~user@xdsl-87-79-55-78.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:18:03 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-78-34-216-166.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:18:37 -!- wbooze [~user@xdsl-78-34-216-166.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:19:49 Nshag [user@lns-bzn-36-82-251-3-33.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 23:21:18 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@88.103.132.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:24:32 -!- martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:24:37 martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 23:26:39 -!- hotblack23 [~jh@p57BD7C1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:45:27 mjonsson [~mjonsson@cpe-98-14-173-5.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:47:30 Quadrescence [~Quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 23:47:37 hi jonrafkind 23:47:44 sup 23:48:00 not much just learning scheme 23:48:31 someone said you might be able to help? 23:48:37 sure I guess 23:48:39 atomx [~user@92.80.115.186] has joined #scheme 23:48:49 anyone here will help you I'm sure 23:52:15 jonrafkind: Well I am implementing a generational garbage collector with three generations, the first of which is a "nursery" to essentially collect the babies with SIDS if you know what I mean, and I am wondering how you might portably implement atomic allocation (i.e., allocation of root nodes to which child objects are linked) and furthermore portably release the atoms. 23:52:44 oh boy.. thats about as far from scheme as possible 23:52:53 omar comin 23:52:58 omarlittle [5ff6e2ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.246.226.174] has joined #scheme 23:53:18 anyway, whats SIDS? 23:53:37 sudden infant death syndrome 23:53:50 oh ok, rofl ive never heard anyone express such a thing that way 23:54:32 the usual way to do a nursery is to have a single large array of memory, and have a pointer to the next free slot 23:54:42 so allocation is just bumping a pointer 23:55:02 then moving nursery objects to older collections is a slow process that consists of copying memory around 23:55:45 This would require a two space collector which I don't want 23:56:01 -!- omarlittle [5ff6e2ae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.246.226.174] has quit [] 23:57:52 im not really sure how to implement generational collectors without two spaces, maybe you can look at larceny or something