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13:40:19 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw229253.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 13:40:32 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 13:40:42 probably perl 13:41:04 I mean the most popular Scheme interpreter, my bad. 13:41:14 I see several in apt. 13:46:19 -!- Modius_ [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:46:51 you could look at popcon 13:47:45 abhinav [~abhinav@72.163.191.121] has joined #scheme 13:54:18 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@cpe-98-14-173-5.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:54:50 femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-181-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 13:55:03 I like scm and will stick with it. 13:56:54 good for you :) 13:57:26 what do you like about scm? 13:59:29 langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 14:00:02 -!- abhinav [~abhinav@72.163.191.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:02:04 seangrove [~user@c-71-198-44-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:04:20 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20:58 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-63-152.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:23:37 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-63-152.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 14:27:06 <`micro> Hi. Can someone point me to well written (elegant) scheme code that makes use of hygenic macros and continuations? 14:28:03 -!- saccade [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:31:53 `micro, at the same time? 14:34:24 <`micro> no - separately 14:35:09 <`micro> s/no/not necessarily/ 14:37:42 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@125.232.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:39:16 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@164.164.250.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:51 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 14:41:15 `micro, see any paper by mitch wand and/or dan friedman for the 80s for continuations 14:42:00 see "how to write hygenic macros w/ syntax-case" by dybvig for macros (or for more modern, see "fortifying macros" by culpepper, 2010) 14:45:10 <`micro> the dybvig article is in "beautiful code" 14:46:38 <`micro> thank you very much for the references. 14:47:57 lbc_ [~lbc@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 14:48:19 <`micro> last question: is there any current application where these two techniques (either or both) are used 14:48:20 <`micro> ? 14:49:23 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:49:39 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 14:50:35 davazp [~user@184.Red-79-154-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:52:13 `micro, continuations are widely used in web servers, for example 14:52:14 <`micro> the culpepper article at Lambda the Ultimate provides references to macros written in Racket: 14:52:15 <`micro> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4071#comment-61763 14:52:39 yes, i wrote that comment 14:52:43 <`micro> ahh - was searching for web servers written in scheme 14:52:47 if it's the one i'm thinking of 14:53:17 here's the introduction to continuation-based web programming in racket: http://docs.racket-lang.org/continue/index.html 14:53:17 <`micro> :) - Excellent!! 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