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I say "toy-ish" because I'm going to try to implement all of R5RS with an extensive test suite, but it's not intended to be fast, useful, what-have-you. Anyway, I just finished a skeletal S-expression parser, so now would be a good time to make a Google Code repository... but it needs a name. 02:20:25 I was thinking pyr5rs, but I wonder if you guys can think of something cooler. 02:20:57 rbarraud [~rbarraud@118-92-19-211.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #scheme 02:21:41 Also, calling it pyr5rs would seem kinda lame if it never ends up conforming to R5RS. 02:23:01 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw229253.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 02:27:30 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw229253.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:41 -!- luz [~davids@201.17.88.176] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 02:33:28 furrykef: We're working on R7RS, it may be better to aim for that. The core language won't be much bigger than R5RS. 02:39:35 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-63-152.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:40:22 Yeah, that's another reason not to name it pyr5rs 02:40:45 Right now obviously I'm more concerned with getting it to evaluate (+ 1 1) :) 02:40:51 (Although it's not far at all from that point, I hope!) 02:43:48 Is it true that there is no general standards compliance testing suite? This page claims such, but I have no idea if it's been kept up to date: http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-standards 02:44:14 I figure if it is true, I may as well write one, since I'm already using test-driven development. 02:46:46 most impls have their own test suites 02:47:34 you might want to grab the tests from chibi-scheme, they're divided into basic tests (procedure calls, closures, etc.), then r5rs tests, then library tests 02:47:34 Right, but I mean a general one for R5RS or R6RS compliance 02:47:40 OK 02:48:46 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-63-152.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 02:48:52 Any idea on a name for the implementation, though? pyscheme is the most obvious... and already taken. 02:52:04 Maybe YASIP... Yet Another Scheme In Python ;) 02:52:11 -!- Kerrick [~Kerrick@kerrick.student.iastate.edu] has quit [Quit: Kerrick] 02:52:36 timj_ [~timj@e176195095.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 02:52:45 Or YAPSI - Yet Another Python Scheme Implementation 02:55:07 -!- FunkyDrummer [~RageOfTho@users-55-242.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:55:18 can you think of a good "scheme" from a monty python skit? 02:55:27 the spanish inquisition? 02:55:43 Sadly, my knowledge of Monty Python is lacking (though I do know The Spanish Inquisition, of course) 02:57:02 -!- timj__ [~timj@e176192097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:59:03 neilv [~user@unaffiliated/neilv] has joined #scheme 02:59:45 Maybe SillyWalk. Because writing my own Scheme in Python is a somewhat pointless exercise (from a practical standpoint) akin to a silly walk. 03:00:33 And I think "silly walk" is a Jargon File term, too 03:05:44 But nah, I don't think so... 03:05:50 -!- neilv [~user@unaffiliated/neilv] has left #scheme 03:07:50 Maybe YapScheme. 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kingping [~kp@95.70.80.53] has joined #scheme 12:04:24 Hello. 12:04:32 hi 12:04:56 Is there a portable pattern-match mechanism for major scheme implementations? 12:05:17 -!- maharba [~eldragon@84.79.67.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:38 Like here http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/match.html 12:12:05 eldragon [~eldragon@84.79.67.254] has joined #scheme 12:16:26 http://synthcode.com/scheme/match.scm for one 12:21:14 Ah, it was mentioned at SO, IIRC. 12:21:17 Thanks, sloyd 12:22:16 homie [~user@xdsl-78-34-234-177.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 12:42:12 -!- reified [~anonymous@usr018.bb160-01.udk.im.wakwak.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: reified] 12:42:50 -!- edw [~user@71.23.221.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:42:50 -!- edw_ [~user@71.23.221.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:44:31 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-37-193.gmavt.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:44:52 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-37-193.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 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Was Julie Sussman credited? 15:39:23 Having trouble finding this on the internet... 15:39:59 no, Julie Sussman doesn't appear in the authors list for the first edition 15:40:40 samth: Thank you. Where did you find that? 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20:44:31 Fare [~Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 20:45:16 sicp ? 20:46:33 is better tahn htdp? 20:51:09 wbooze: i am not sure sicp is ideal for beginning programmers. 20:51:23 erm, yes it's huge' 20:51:24 wbooze: I've been coding for 25+ years and i'm finding it slow going. :) 20:51:44 i am not a true beginner, i know C (like the basics) 20:51:46 The Little Schemer was mentioned here, as more basic, but I don't have experience with that. 20:52:15 maybe it will make some of them afraid to begin with...but later on sooner or later they'll try to find something more deep 20:52:19 wbooze: yes 20:52:31 crazybitchsssss: well , try SICP ,if it's too dense there are other texts. 20:52:46 i have a lots of time 20:52:50 crazybitchsssss: the exercises are worthwhile. 20:52:55 but i will continue learning C 20:53:08 that one from christian quinnec is also good 20:53:11 i finshed a book on C, but i am felling to green 20:53:17 wbooze: Lisp in Small Pieces 20:53:20 you know what i mean? 20:53:20 yep 20:53:23 wbooze: yeah i'll deal with that after SICP :) 20:53:54 crazybitchsssss: C isn't a very good language to start with imho 20:54:00 why? 20:54:14 crazybitchsssss: it's a 35 year old systems programming language, with limited applicability, for one thing. 20:54:23 crazybitchsssss: you can do anything in C. But should you? Not really. 20:54:30 crazybitchsssss: things have moved on a lot in those 35 years. 20:54:31 Why are we going through this again? 20:54:41 i already finshed a book on C, i can do simple things 20:54:44 like a agenda 20:54:47 Don't you all see it's the same troll over and over again? 20:54:51 sjamaan: me? 20:55:02 sjamaan: I am aware I'm repeating myself, though. 20:55:07 troll wtf is that? 20:55:11 FurnaceBoy: You are not the troll 20:55:22 me troll no 20:55:24 ... 20:55:39 no way 20:55:41 no 20:55:42 no 20:55:42 no 20:55:43 no 20:55:43 no 20:55:43 etcetc, gavino, shemale_magic 20:55:43 no 20:55:44 no 20:55:47 -!- lbc_ [~lbc@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:55:48 no 20:55:50 no 20:55:52 no 20:55:52 What other nicks do you have? 20:55:54 no 20:55:56 non 20:55:56 sjamaan: i know of this person. 20:55:58 no 20:56:03 some others 20:56:03 sjamaan: thanks for the alert 20:56:08 but fuck you 20:56:31 kiss my disck jackass 20:56:31 For ruining your game? 20:56:39 I'd do it again 20:56:41 And again 20:56:42 And again 20:56:50 yeh 20:56:50 yeh 20:56:51 yeh 20:56:51 yeh 20:56:52 yeh 20:56:52 yeh 20:56:53 yeh 20:56:55 yeh 20:57:01 Now where are ops when you need them? 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