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I tried doing some exercises from The Little Schemer in Guile, but some of them didn't work so I got frustrated. Is Guile not a recommended implementation? What's the best way to start for someone using Debian GNU/Linux? What is a good book that will go with this recommended implementation? 04:51:40 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 04:53:01 jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:56:40 curi [~curi@h100.243.23.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #scheme 04:57:13 mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 04:58:03 laurus: what did not work? 04:58:06 -!- Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@66.183.224.178] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:58:29 If you don't give us an error, we'll have to assume it worked perfectly. 04:58:29 Axioplase, I forgot, it was a few weeks ago... I just got the sense that if I didn't choose an implementation and a book that goes with that implementation carefully I might run into trouble. 04:58:58 Point taken :) 04:59:47 I don't remember the little schemer, but I don't think there were many (if any) implementation specific code in it. 05:00:00 Yeah, I think it was more a problem with that book than with Guile 05:00:29 I see no reason not to recommend guile to start using Scheme (or keep using Scheme either). 05:01:00 Ok! I shall :) 05:01:13 I have been so darned frustrated with the functional programming in Python 05:01:35 I constantly feel like 1) it's not implemented that well, and 2) I'm missing out on better things 05:02:10 FP in python?? 05:02:15 Yeah 05:02:45 Like playing baseball with a hockey cross 05:02:49 ;) 05:02:57 s/cross/stick 05:11:25 Thanks Axioplase, good night! 05:11:28 -!- laurus [~laurus@c-68-40-207-109.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #scheme 05:13:08 Axioplase: If you're referring to the latest beta versions of Guile, there's not much reason to avoid it, but the officially released versions should probably be avoided. 05:13:41 chandler: ah? 05:13:44 Why so? 05:14:00 If laurus installed a package from Debian, then it was probably 1.8.something, which is afflicted by poor performance and dubious hygiene (among other misfeatures). 05:14:50 ha. Well, I doubt this has a strong impact on reading the Little Schemer, but I'll try to remember it 05:16:27 Yes, though an implementation with better debugging tools like Racket, MIT Scheme, or Scheme48 (or Guile 2.0) would probably be preferable. 05:18:04 I'm actually quite looking forward to Guile 2.0. 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