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Try "rudybot: help". 01:14:44 rudybot: SYN 01:14:44 offby1: eh? Try "rudybot: help". 01:14:44 ... 01:14:57 rudybot: now don't get all coy on me. 01:14:57 offby1: there's this "dropbox" site, but it seems to be playing a bit coy -- it has no obvious way of using it other than downloadding their "client", and I'm not sure I like that idea... 01:15:01 You folks need to review RFC 793. 01:15:08 *offby1* reviews rfc 793 01:15:31 The correct reply to a SYN is a SYN/ACK (or a RST). 01:15:44 well, uh 01:15:52 mejja, what, no bug reports to dump all over me? 01:16:40 It's all JRM's fault. 01:22:13 -!- nurv [nurv@83.231.81.72] has quit [] 01:23:14 -!- mejja [~user@c-35bce555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:15 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:48:16 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 01:50:28 elderK [~zk@125-238-255-22.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 01:53:14 -!- seangrov` [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58:26 davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has joined #scheme 02:04:59 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:40 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 02:09:10 -!- Fabse [~mightyfid@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has quit [] 02:35:19 minion [~minion@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 02:35:53 specbot [~specbot@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 02:39:28 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-231.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:40:21 rudybot: Oh no, he's turned into incubot! 02:40:21 cky: I forget exactly how that turned out 02:42:21 cky: he has indeed. 02:42:24 *evil laughter* 02:43:26 :-D 02:43:49 cky: who would you list among your influences? 02:43:51 er 02:43:57 rudybot: whom would you list among your influences? 02:43:57 *offby1: who would you list among your influences? 02:43:58 :) 02:44:00 crap. 02:44:10 poisoned the databases. 02:44:40 Hahahahaha. 02:52:23 rudybot: is it true that you're an echobot? 02:52:24 chandler: returns true if the list has a cycle in it 02:55:59 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176195171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:56:54 cky_ [~cky@h-166-165-212-156.ip.alltel.net] has joined #scheme 02:57:12 -!- davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 02:59:29 -!- cky [~cky@h-166-165-215-6.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:01:52 -!- cky_ is now known as cky 03:03:46 there's your answer. 03:04:08 rudybot: yields falsehood when prepended to its quotation! Yields falsehood when prepended to its quotation! 03:04:09 *offby1: don't errors in *Messages* usually hve the location prepended? 03:06:53 -!- cky [~cky@h-166-165-212-156.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:09:42 timj_ [~timj@e176207035.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 03:34:00 -!- russkey [~russkey@ool-18bb0ebd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:45:19 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 03:45:32 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 03:54:25 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:54:44 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 03:55:21 -!- elderK [~zk@125-238-255-22.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: "Wandering..."] 03:59:30 cky [~cky@h-166-165-165-219.ip.alltel.net] has joined #scheme 04:00:31 -!- bgs100 is now known as bgs000 04:01:20 bitweiler [~phax@70.233.100.37] has joined #scheme 04:05:26 saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:09:45 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 04:11:20 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 04:13:28 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 04:14:47 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 04:17:17 -!- MononcQc [~ferd@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:25:38 Len_ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has joined #scheme 04:35:44 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:51:36 -!- bitweiler [~phax@70.233.100.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01:21 -!- mbishop [~martin@adsl-241-73-40.msy.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:02:15 phao [~phao@189.107.134.135] has joined #scheme 05:04:16 mbishop [~martin@adsl-150-22-174.aby.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 05:05:52 elderK [~zk@125-238-255-22.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 05:06:45 -!- elderK [~zk@125-238-255-22.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #scheme 05:09:22 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:10:56 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 05:21:15 *eli* slaps rudybot 05:21:29 That still gets no answer? 05:21:37 -!- kniu [~kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:23:38 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@tissot.csail.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:25:05 ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has joined #scheme 05:26:33 -!- ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has quit [Client Quit] 05:27:37 _danb_ [~user@124-168-128-117.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 05:37:22 seangrov` [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:39:07 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 05:42:33 eli! 05:42:36 minion: chant 05:42:36 MORE EFFICIENT 05:43:23 elly! 05:43:35 minion: chant again 05:43:35 MORE EFFICIENT 05:43:50 (Symmetry accomplished.) 05:45:00 eli! 05:46:49 how do i begin coding in scheme? i have plt scheme, installed it, and ran drscheme, but the program says "DrScheme cannot process programs until you choose a programming language. Either select the "Choose language..." item in the "language" menu, or "get guidance", i selected CHoose Language in the Language menu and have no idea what to do 05:47:11 theres a bullet point on "Use language declared in the source 05:47:19 -!- seangrov` [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47:22 i mean, im trying to program in scheme, isn't scheme the language? 05:47:22 well, which language do you want to program in? 05:47:28 not quite 05:47:31 PLT supports many different languages 05:47:42 i just want to program in scheme 05:47:45 toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-111-248.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 05:47:47 so there are many different types of scheme 05:47:50 yes 05:47:58 eli: ping; this person needs help with DrScheme 05:48:07 (I think Eli is attached to the PLT people somehow.) 05:48:16 (either way, he's l33t, so) 05:48:38 <_danb_> brucelee: I found it a little confusing too when I was playing the the dr a month ago but it does work 05:48:41 seangrov` [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:49:08 _danb_: so i can just ignore the part about selecting a language 05:49:55 <_danb_> no, I think you have to select one; bear in mind I did this a month ago and was in your boat; I haven't had time to go back 05:50:02 <_danb_> are you using linux 05:50:41 brucelee: if you want to use what most people call "scheme", choose R5RS 05:54:32 ok elly 05:54:37 _danb_: im using windows 05:54:40 i already downloaded drscheme 05:54:53 -!- phao [~phao@189.107.134.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:55:05 <_danb_> I was playing with plt scheme briefly in emacs using geiser package. I put '#lang scheme' at the top of my .ss file. 05:57:35 brucelee: Hit Ctrl+L, then click the "Use the language declared in the source" 05:58:09 That would give you the default scheme language (which you'll see by the "#lang scheme" at the top). 05:58:38 You can choose R5RS, but that would be a mistake if you want to get things done (rather than play around). 05:59:01 elly: (Yes, I'm attached to them ... somehow...) 05:59:28 eli: (I have no idea what you do :P) 06:00:03 elly: (Well, look for the PLT release announcements, and check out who sends them...) 06:00:56 eli: ah, 'somehow associated' :P 06:01:10 Yeah... 06:07:46 snarkyboojum [~snarkyboo@110-174-43-105.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #scheme 06:15:16 -!- kilimanjaro is now known as JosephMcCarthy 06:15:18 melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #scheme 06:28:38 eli thanks 06:28:41 i was disconnected 06:28:50 -!- JosephMcCarthy is now known as kilimanjaro 06:28:51 im connected through ssh session :p 06:30:01 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 06:30:23 brucelee: (obviously...) 06:30:41 his style is no style, his SSH is no SSH. 06:32:26 (actually he's a descendant of Christopher Lee of English acting fame and he gets annoyed with constant references to action films) 06:36:51 :) 06:48:28 -!- _danb_ [~user@124-168-128-117.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 06:48:44 lol 06:48:48 its like water my friend 06:48:55 if it goes into the cup 06:48:58 it BECOMES the cup 06:49:03 if it goes into a teapot 06:49:06 it BECOMES a teapot 06:49:13 water.. be waaater my friend. 06:51:22 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:51:55 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53:38 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:54:30 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 07:03:25 brucelee: well... WAAAT-TAAAAHHH is your favorite beverage. makes sense. 07:12:24 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 07:16:43 whats a good place for a newbie to learn scheme? 07:18:22 -!- toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-111-248.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23:21 place is what sense? 07:23:29 a resource 07:23:30 IRC channel? here is good 07:23:33 like documentary 07:23:36 i mean.. documentation 07:23:38 website :p 07:23:40 book 07:23:46 you might like some of the 'The * Schemer' books 07:23:54 along with SICP 07:23:59 A scheme documentary needs to be made 07:24:07 With chinese kung fu action 07:24:16 rofl 07:24:26 The * Schemer 07:24:35 SICP will take a little bit of work if you don't have sufficient background 07:24:43 i only have C background 07:24:43 brucelee: there are a bunch of titles in that series 07:24:45 and not even that much 07:24:56 i need something pretty basic 07:25:06 then go with the Schemer books 07:25:11 hmm ok 07:25:15 are those free online 07:25:25 no, IIRC 07:25:39 no, but cheap 07:26:01 yeah, most of them are cheap, you might want to read HTDP if you absolutely have to have something for free 07:26:16 it's in the channel header 07:26:40 oh cool 07:27:28 thanks :op 07:30:55 brucelee: If you don't have much programming experience, then HtDP would be much better than the little books (or SICP). 07:38:28 certainty [~closure@dslc-082-082-130-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 07:42:16 Len__ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has joined #scheme 07:42:20 -!- Len_ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 07:42:21 -!- Len__ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43:23 Len_ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has joined #scheme 07:54:17 myu2 [~myu2@w179122.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 07:56:50 -!- seangrov` [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:59:12 fabe [~fabe@p54A7C5C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 08:02:39 pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.12.21] has joined #scheme 08:09:35 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:11:45 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 08:13:19 kenjin2201 [~kenjin@163.152.84.68] has joined #scheme 08:21:06 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:39 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 08:43:57 Narrenschiff [~ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has joined #scheme 08:45:20 -!- nymm` is now known as foros 08:46:27 sphex [~nobody@modemcable014.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 08:52:10 kniu [~kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 09:03:10 Len__ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has joined #scheme 09:03:23 -!- Len_ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 09:12:13 attila_lendvai [~ati@catv-89-133-171-82.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 09:58:08 frognia [~93fbd3fd@gateway/web/freenode/x-fballtxolyxhejya] has joined #scheme 10:10:02 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10:03 -!- jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:15 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 10:14:21 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 10:14:45 masm [~masm@85.240.39.101] has joined #scheme 10:25:29 -!- jao [~jao@6.Red-88-18-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 10:28:24 choas [~lars@p5B0DFBD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 10:35:40 -!- kenjin2201 [~kenjin@163.152.84.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35:54 -!- myu2 [~myu2@w179122.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:55 _danb_ [~user@124-168-128-117.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 10:52:34 daniel__ [~daniel@ip4da84af4.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #scheme 10:53:53 What is (define a 0) ( (lambda (x) (set! x (+ x 1))) a) supposed to evaluate to? 10:54:27 That's undefined 10:54:36 (the return value of set! isn't defined) 10:54:58 Oops, I meant to ask what is a supposed to be after evaluating that? 10:55:02 0 10:55:25 Your set! statement merely modifies the local value of x 10:56:15 s/statement/expression/ I guess 10:57:28 Symmetry- [~thezog@host-static-92-114-207-115.moldtelecom.md] has joined #scheme 10:59:54 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:26 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:01:40 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:40 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 11:08:43 -!- daniel__ [~daniel@ip4da84af4.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:09:24 daniel__ [~daniel@ip4da84af4.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #scheme 11:10:16 Then what does (define test-agenda '(0)) 11:10:16 (define (set-current-time! agenda time) (set-car! agenda time)) 11:10:16 (set-current-time! test-agenda 3) 11:10:31 evaluate to? (from the digital circuit simulator in SICP) 11:11:05 Again, what is test-agenda after evaluating that? :) 11:11:09 That's using set-car! which alters the first value of a cons cell 11:11:46 You can look at it this way: set! alters what value a variable holds, whereas set-car! alters the value itself 11:12:14 This means that every variable that holds that same value will see the difference 11:12:20 rup [~Rupert@deathcoil.net] has joined #scheme 11:12:30 So set-car! manipulates the car pointer of a list? 11:12:45 s/list/pair/ and you're right 11:16:05 Then the set-car! procedure wasn't implemented correctly in the implementation I'm using, thank you very much :) 11:16:09 -!- daniel__ [~daniel@ip4da84af4.direct-adsl.nl] has left #scheme 11:16:14 o_O 11:16:55 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 11:17:40 They say scheme is like tennis. 11:18:40 They do? It is? 11:19:44 daniel__: in what way was set-car! not implemented correctly? 11:19:56 IJP: He left 11:20:29 sjamaan: so he did W-| 11:22:43 Only in the countries where you use a racket, though, and not a racquet 11:22:50 XD 11:23:00 I walked right into that one 11:24:01 -!- foros [~foros@188.72.255.208] has left #scheme 11:24:37 -!- rup [~Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:31:21 rup [~Rupert@deathcoil.net] has joined #scheme 11:34:45 -!- m811 [~user@150.181.35.213.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: "If you put a million monkeys at a million keyboards, one of them will eventually write a Java program. 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(car money) 'Euro) 13:42:57 whats the meaning here ? 13:43:09 i dunno" ' " 13:43:15 'Euro 13:43:36 -!- Len__ [~Len@77.127.167.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:51:39 Frq: this is `quote', i.e. (eqv? (car money) (quote Euro)) 13:56:09 specbot: r5rs quote 13:56:09 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-7.html#%_idx_86 13:56:10 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/42fdnl 14:01:34 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:02:04 foof [~user@lain.inunome.com] has joined #scheme 14:02:33 rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has joined #scheme 14:04:30 what is the most elegant way of "cleaning up" a list of values? this is what I mean: ("ab" #f "bo" #f "do") => ("ab" "bo" "do") 14:06:02 (filter values lst) 14:08:30 nurv [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 14:09:09 Hi. 14:09:39 rotty, thanks :-) 14:09:51 np 14:18:16 MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 14:21:31 -!- Nshag [user@lns-bzn-21-82-64-109-236.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:22:54 -!- Frq [~chatzilla@88.241.162.143] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 14:35:15 myu2 [~myu2@KD124211006239.ppp.prin.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 14:36:23 Nshag [user@lns-bzn-53-82-65-6-146.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 14:42:02 -!- frognia [~93fbd3fd@gateway/web/freenode/x-fballtxolyxhejya] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:44:28 -!- _danb_ [~user@124-168-128-117.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:47:04 -!- jay-mccarthy [~jay@lallab.cs.byu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:47:31 alvatar [~alvatar@146.233.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 14:50:08 jay-mccarthy [~jay@lallab.cs.byu.edu] has joined #scheme 14:55:53 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 14:57:49 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Quit: Adamant] 14:58:50 sphex_ [~nobody@modemcable014.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 15:00:28 -!- sphex [~nobody@modemcable014.10-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:08:00 -!- Narrenschiff [~ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [Quit: Narrenschiff] 15:16:18 Narrenschiff [~ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has joined #scheme 15:19:44 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:21:27 -!- myu2 [~myu2@KD124211006239.ppp.prin.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22:44 -!- saccade [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:23:37 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:51 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 15:26:39 saccade [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 15:27:51 -!- saccade [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:27:57 -!- nurv is now known as nurv|afk 15:28:55 Adamant [~Adamant@c-68-54-179-181.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:28:56 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@c-68-54-179-181.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:28:56 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 15:52:43 -!- cky [~cky@h-166-165-165-219.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:58:23 Frq [~chatzilla@88.241.162.143] has joined #scheme 15:58:54 -!- nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:59:19 i'm new to scheme. i need to search a list and try to find a string match. does scheme have a type for String? 15:59:46 russkey [~russkey@ool-18bb0ebd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 16:12:35 cky [~cky@h-166-165-142-131.ip.alltel.net] has joined #scheme 16:13:15 -!- xwl [~user@125.34.173.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:31 incubot: (string? "foo") 16:17:31 #t 16:17:40 i wanna learn all scheme keywords like "define,cdr,car,oddcond.." 16:17:44 r5rs string? 16:17:44 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-6.html#%_idx_56 16:17:46 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/3983wva 16:17:55 and now i need a function for Searching a value in list 16:18:07 any link for them? 16:18:15 there... if you're keen on the latest greatest there is www.r6rs.org 16:18:32 r5rs member 16:18:32 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_432 16:18:33 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/3r2q3n 16:18:59 if it's not homework just use filter from srfi-1 iirc. 16:19:31 spacebot u giving the links to me? 16:19:59 *sladegen* nods pretending to be specbot. 16:20:17 nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 16:21:46 seems yes :) 16:21:48 thanks 16:22:05 np 16:22:14 -!- nurv|afk is now known as nurv 16:29:50 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 16:31:34 i'm checking your links. i didnt understood this why false: (list? '(a . b)) ===> #f 16:33:13 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Quit: reboot] 16:34:39 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 16:34:46 -!- saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:34:52 bitweiler [~phax@70.233.100.37] has joined #scheme 16:35:00 peace ;) 16:36:42 Frq: because it's inproper list... i.e. is not terminated with '() 16:37:20 but 16:37:34 incubot: (pair? '(a . b)) 16:37:35 #t 16:38:24 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 16:39:49 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 16:44:26 isnt a list a pair? 16:45:26 yes 16:45:53 but some pairs are not lists 16:46:09 (list? '(a . b) '()) #t or #f 16:46:28 btw what is '() :) 16:47:04 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 16:47:17 rtra [~rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has joined #scheme 16:48:33 i couldnt understood difference between '(a b) and '(a . b) 16:49:06 jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:49:50 '() is an empty list 16:50:13 incubot: eval '(a . (b . ())) 16:50:13 (a b) 16:50:29 You could read "cons" for the dot, if you want 16:50:40 Because that's what it represents 16:50:48 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:51:43 ok, i know cons but didnt know" . "is that 16:52:00 incubot: (cons 'a 'b) 16:52:00 (a . b) 16:52:00 sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 16:52:08 incubot: (cons 'a (cons 'b '())) 16:52:08 (a b) 16:52:39 See the difference? (a b) is just convenient shorthand for (a . (b . ())) 16:53:51 'nil = null in c? 16:54:30 No, 'nil would evaluate to nil, which is just another symbol 16:54:37 It has no special meaning in Scheme 16:55:34 () is the empty list (also sometimes called nil or null), which is used as a list terminator. In that sense, it's similar to C's null in the capacity of a linked list terminator 16:55:56 However, for "uninitialized value", in Scheme people usually use #f (false) 16:56:06 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Client Quit] 16:56:22 hmm i got it thanks 16:56:27 sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 16:56:27 yw 16:58:10 incubot: stupid byatch... 16:58:14 I just filed a bug report to PLT requesting ports based save and load operations for the bitmap% class. Hope that wasn't incredibly stupid... 16:58:28 minion: chant 16:58:28 MORE IE 16:58:32 OH NOES! 16:58:51 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Quit: reboot once again] 17:04:32 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 17:05:38 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 17:07:15 melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #scheme 17:23:56 i wanna create a list and then search entire list. to do that i need to define a procedure that creates my list right? and i couldnt find the searching keyword yet 17:24:39 You don't need anything. 17:24:53 You can define everything right in place. 17:25:05 -!- nurv is now known as nurv|afk 17:25:55 fradgers- [~fradgers-@5ad7bb5e.bb.sky.com] has joined #scheme 17:27:05 -!- saccade_ [~saccade_@COMBINATOR.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27:15 but if i define in searching procedure then wont i create may lists 17:29:38 saccade [~saccade_@COMBINATOR.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 17:30:28 You don't need to define anything. 17:31:57 rudybot: stupid byatch... 17:31:57 *offby1: stupid byatch... 17:32:03 rudybot: stupid byatch... 17:32:03 *offby1: stupid byatch... 17:32:05 rudybot: stupid ... 17:32:05 *offby1: "Don't ask such stupid questions" is the best answer ;) 17:32:51 alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 17:33:00 (loop for e in '(1 2 3 4) when (= 0 (mod e 3)) return e) 17:33:20 See? 17:33:26 No need to define anything. 17:33:43 I've never learnt loop macros... I'm just too used to hand-rolling my own recursions 17:33:50 Strengthens my soul, I'm sure! 17:34:05 Hrm. 17:34:12 Wrong language. 17:34:23 Well... It may be harder in Scheme. 17:37:44 http://codepad.org/S5IV1LBa can u see the code? 17:38:29 (loop continue ((for e (in-list '(1 2 3 4)))) => #f (cond ((= 0 (mod e 3)) e) (else (continue)))) 17:39:40 Frq: I can 17:40:24 (that's with foof-loop) 17:40:28 i try to create a list of currencies there, later on i'll try to get the value of them by searching their symbol 17:40:41 bad idea 17:40:45 why 17:41:31 you'd better define a data structure where you can look them up by value 17:42:07 'lo rotty, long time no see! 17:42:20 e.g. (define currencies '((dollar 1.0) (euro 1.4) ...)) 17:42:20 Frq: http://gist.github.com/378568 will be easier, I suspect. 17:42:45 alaricsp: hi 17:42:53 Frq: your way is tricky because eventually you'll need to find the value of a variable, give a symbol with the same name. That will require either "eval" or macros, both of which are subtle and advanced. 17:43:11 Frq: my way will require only that you use (or reinvent) "assq", which is simple. 17:43:27 rotty: Jinx. 17:43:34 What's the final goal then? (I've missed the start.) 17:43:37 indeed 17:44:24 ASau: the final goal, of course, is to die with the most toys. 17:44:30 hmm ok.. this seems so much better 17:44:46 but how can i get Euro or Dollar from list 17:44:53 Yes, it's better to die. 17:44:58 rudybot: doc assq 17:44:59 assoc 17:45:02 *offby1: your sandbox is ready 17:45:02 i need to write a procedure for searching by symbol? 17:45:08 *offby1: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference/pairs.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._assq)) 17:45:11 No, just use assoc. 17:45:17 Frq: follow that link ^^ 17:45:21 assq and assoc are similar 17:45:40 rudybot: eval (define currencyList '((TL 2.000) (Euro 1.062) (Dollar 1.348) (GBP 0.874) (CHF 1.444))) 17:45:46 Or assq, if that's better. 17:46:11 rudybot: eval (assq 'TL currencyList) 17:46:11 *offby1: ; Value: (TL 2.0) 17:46:19 in this case, using assq is merely an optimization 17:46:43 Frq: are you starting to understand? 17:46:49 rudybot: eval (assq 'Dollar currencyList) 17:46:49 *offby1: ; Value: (Dollar 1.348) 17:46:58 rudybot: eval (assq 'MexicanPeso currencyList) 17:46:58 *offby1: ; Value: #f 17:47:45 i'm googling eval assq :) 17:48:17 fsm5 [~chatzilla@88.244.214.12] has joined #scheme 17:49:25 rudybot: en tr "I wouldn't expect you to find many hits for those two terms" 17:49:25 *offby1: or tr -d '\015' 17:49:30 rudybot: t8 en tr "I wouldn't expect you to find many hits for those two terms" 17:49:31 *offby1: "Seni" bu iki dönem için birçok hits bulmak için beklemek olmaz 17:50:35 did they just chop another five zeroes off the lira? :) 17:52:22 is there a style guide for performance for schemes 17:52:43 *offby1* stares blankly 17:52:53 what would "a style guide for performance" look like? What kind of information would it include? 17:54:44 something like "To maximize sprinting performance, use a bit of mousse on one's hair, to lower wind resistance", I guess 17:55:03 or "Speedo trunks look great _and_ slide smoothly through the pool" 17:55:16 #scheme, for all your snarking needs! 17:55:19 saccade_ [~saccade@dhcp-18-111-66-219.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 17:56:13 -!- Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-48-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:56:57 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:57:06 sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 17:59:43 -!- jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:01:10 Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-48-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:02:32 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 18:07:06 attila_lendvai [~ati@catv-89-133-171-82.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 18:07:17 -!- nurv|afk is now known as nurv 18:13:40 i've been trying to understand this : eval (assq 'Dollar currencyList) 18:14:04 Frq: I gently urge you not to use "eval" 18:14:06 as i understand its find Dollar in the list and>> eval : get its value 18:14:30 what does eval do 18:14:36 are you talking about what _I_ wrote to the bot? 18:14:36 i'll need to use eval 18:15:36 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2571401/why-exactly-is-eval-evil 18:16:15 haha great link name :) 18:16:47 Frq why do you think you need eval? 18:17:14 AnalogAndroid [~davebot@adsl-70-132-8-78.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:17:25 i dunno yet 18:17:28 i'm googling it 18:17:28 "eval" has two meanings: 1) it's a function built into scheme, which I recommend that you not use; 2) it's a command to rudybot, telling him to run some scheme code and display the result. I encourage you to use that. 18:17:39 i wanna get the value of Dollar 18:17:46 by searching list 18:17:50 yes, we understand that 18:18:12 Frq: which scheme are you using? 18:18:18 PLT 18:20:09 good 18:20:57 I suggest that you put the definition of "currencylist" in the top pane of DrScheme, and in the bottom, put a test or two -- like (assq 'Dollar currencylist), then click "Run". 18:21:04 You'll see it work, and you won't have to type "eval" anywhere. 18:21:28 rdd` [~user@c83-250-52-182.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 18:21:30 (I probably got some details wrong in that last) 18:24:50 hmm i shall not try to understand eval anymore then :D it confused me 18:25:30 incubot: (eval eval) 18:25:30 Error: illegal non-atomic object: # 18:25:59 rudybot: eval (eval eval) 18:25:59 sladegen: your sandbox is ready 18:26:00 sladegen: ; Value: # 18:27:18 sladegen: don't go messin' with their tiny minds! 18:27:26 fsm5_ [~chatzilla@88.240.64.196] has joined #scheme 18:27:28 rudybot: did bad sladegen hurt you? 18:27:28 *offby1: :) hehe thanks 18:28:03 I think incubot has that same bug :) 18:28:04 incubot: (lambda () eval) 18:28:04 # 18:28:13 *sladegen* hoorays! 18:28:27 rudybot: eval (lambda () 'whatever) 18:28:28 *offby1: ; Value: # 18:28:46 *offby1* hums "Duelling Banjos" 18:28:59 no, i'm thikging incubot has eval forbidden... 18:29:16 -!- fsm5 [~chatzilla@88.244.214.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:29:23 -!- fsm5_ is now known as fsm5 18:29:41 -!- Symmetry- [~thezog@host-static-92-114-207-115.moldtelecom.md] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:29:42 incubot: ((lambda () eval) eval) 18:29:42 Error: bad argument count - received 1 but expected 0: # 18:29:53 sure 18:30:08 incubot: ((lambda (x) (eval x)) eval) 18:30:08 Error: illegal non-atomic object: # 18:30:15 incubot: (((lambda () eval)) eval) 18:30:15 Error: illegal non-atomic object: # 18:30:22 we must be bored 18:30:34 rudybot: anything good on TV today? 18:30:34 *offby1: there was a beer festival today, and I already had a ticket, and I _didn't go_ so i could stay home and make a valentines day card... 18:30:42 i'm always bored and busy... 18:30:50 rudybot: I am having my doubts as to your masculinity. 18:30:50 *offby1: ACTION casts aspersions on e1f's masculinity 18:30:58 crap, gotta take care of that :) 18:31:05 http://codepad.org/tduFnQpQ this is what i'm trying to do but i cant 18:31:13 -!- melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:31:17 -!- rtra [~rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:36 i'll give the names to convert wth (convert Dollar Euro amount) 18:31:44 rtra [~rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has joined #scheme 18:32:21 Frq: you'd either need to use quoted symbols or macros... 18:32:49 since you are new the latter of is off the table. 18:33:11 whats wrong u mean? 18:34:05 I can see two problems: 18:34:28 define accessors that hide details of your implementation... 18:34:29 1) you're taking the result of "assq" and treating it as if it were a number. But it's not a number; it's a list containing a symbol and a number. 18:34:35 2) I forget what the second problem is. 18:35:03 assq returns a pair, you need to destructure it further in order to use plain numbers. 18:35:22 Frq: I pasted all your code into the top of DrScheme, and then hit the "Run" button. I not only saw an error, but I saw some very useful arrows that told me more about the error. Did you see those arrows? 18:35:26 s/use pla/use as pla/ 18:38:44 hmm in error part it says number expected 18:39:04 i actually thopught eval() was getting the Val(value) of it :) 18:39:15 so how can i get the value ? by assv? 18:39:32 seems not 18:39:33 let me try to demonstrate. 18:39:54 RageOfThou [~RageOfTho@users-55-65.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 18:40:15 rudybot: eval (assq 'Dollar currencyList) 18:40:15 *offby1: ; Value: (Dollar 1.348) 18:40:24 see how that's a list: a symbol and a number? 18:40:28 we want to pull the number out. 18:40:30 so ... 18:40:34 rudybot: eval (second (assq 'Dollar currencyList)) 18:40:34 *offby1: ; Value: 1.348 18:40:36 ta-da 18:41:16 _this_ is _exactly_ why I taught rudybot to 'eval' 18:41:33 rudybot: are you Daddy's little pedagogic tool? mmm? 18:41:34 *offby1: mmm, you mean the repl? 18:41:42 *offby1* awards rudybot a gold star 18:41:57 sladegen: he's smarter than y'all have given him credit for! All these years. 18:43:42 incubot: (let ((cList '((Dollar 1.348)))) (cdr (assq 'Dollar cList))) 18:43:43 (1.348) 18:43:51 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-79.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:43:51 incubot: (let ((cList '((Dollar . 1.348)))) (cdr (assq 'Dollar cList))) 18:43:51 1.348 18:44:07 incubot: see, no eval, ma! 18:44:09 (define (eval-repeat expr) (if (null? expr) '() (n-eval (take-number expr) expr))) 18:44:53 incubot: i see you are trying to meta-circulate, would you like onion circles with that? 18:44:56 onion ? sounds good... ply one skin at a time... ;) 18:45:31 incubot: oh they are called rings... /facedesk. 18:45:34 SRE.. It rings a bell.. 18:45:44 oh, stfu. 18:46:55 man, that was confusing. 18:46:56 incubot: (define foo 'foo) 18:46:56 # 18:47:11 incubot: (lambda () foo) 18:47:11 # 18:47:20 incubot: ((lambda () foo)) 18:47:20 Error: unbound variable: foo 18:47:23 Symmetry- [~thezog@host-static-92-114-207-115.moldtelecom.md] has joined #scheme 18:47:24 poo 18:49:11 polish confusion strikes when you least expect it! 18:50:07 -!- FatsDT [~fdt@97-125-47-100.eugn.qwest.net] has left #scheme 18:50:39 jcowan [~jcowan@cpe-98-14-172-204.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:51:05 *jcowan* unvanishes 18:52:17 -!- AnalogAndroid [~davebot@adsl-70-132-8-78.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: AnalogAndroid] 18:52:23 myu2 [~myu2@w179122.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 18:53:13 -!- rtra [~rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:59 http://codepad.org/dKoLC3yv i'm trying to do something like that but still couldnt solve. a problem with lambda usage and i seems i cant get the values by writing Dollar in (convert Dollar Euro 10) 18:57:43 rudybot: jcowan unvanish mumble pince-nez 18:57:43 *offby1: mumble mumble expressive power mumble mumble mumble 18:58:14 *jcowan* laughs. 18:58:21 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:32 blah blah blah rudybot 18:59:25 nyuk nyuk nyuk irony nyuk 18:59:53 incubot: (let ((Dollar 0)) (list Dollar 'Dollar)) 18:59:53 (0 Dollar) 19:00:04 Frq: see the difference? 19:00:42 do u have a scheme compiler named incubot :) 19:00:52 i've just noticeed omg 19:00:57 Frq: oh my God -- I just realized that "codepad" is _running_ your code. 19:01:19 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:01:22 :D :D 19:01:27 Frq: that's a terrible idea; codepad is certainly using something other than PLT scheme, and therefore you're going to get confused because of the subtle differences. 19:01:34 Frq: pick _one_ scheme, and use it. 19:01:38 I suggest PLT scheme. 19:01:39 incubot: OMG, OMG, OMG, PONIES! 19:01:41 omg, ponies!!!1!!! 19:01:51 yes, ponies that run scheme. 19:01:53 i use both :D 19:02:11 well, don't ask me for help on problems that come up via codepad, since I have no idea what implementation they're using 19:02:35 anyway: http://codepad.org/EW4qBMCO is probably what you want. It works in PLT scheme, but not in codepad 19:02:40 for annoying trivial reasons 19:03:22 Frq: define a function that gets value of given 'Currency and use it inside convert passing it a desired currency symbol. 19:03:46 oh my god. It's mzscheme version 372. 19:04:19 Frq: I STRONGLY suggest that you use EITHER codepad, or DrScheme, BUT NOT BOTH. 19:04:22 That way madness lies. 19:04:57 oh yeas thats what i realy want to do 19:05:22 offby1: its the thing what i actually try to do but still has error in PLT :) 19:05:27 'We're all mad here", said the Cheshire Cat to 'lice.' 19:05:32 er, Alice 19:05:32 *ASau* thinks that it's time to tell Frq about defmacro and power of real Lisp. 19:05:35 but semantic is ok i gueess 19:05:53 go! 19:05:55 *jcowan* burns ASau at the stake for even mentioning non-hygienic macros. 19:05:59 ASau: i may learn Lisp later on :D 19:06:08 ASau: i still have too much to learn :) 19:06:22 ASau: yeah! Heathen. 19:06:23 mumble. 19:06:44 Is that just plain "mumble" or is it "Mumble!" 19:06:48 the former. 19:06:55 Too lazy to really "Mumble!" 19:07:05 I once met someone who spoke "Mumble!"-dialect, and it was distinctly bizarre. 19:07:36 I can believe it 19:08:41 I had to keep reminding myself that he was actively disagreeing with me, not just being indifferent. 19:08:54 *jcowan* likes "Mumbleco", though. 19:09:41 offby1: that's called orthodoxy, you sectants. ;) 19:10:16 my orthodoxy is better than your orthodoxy! 19:11:19 .... actually scratch that, a doxy is better than either 19:11:55 affineodoxy for the morally loose! 19:12:04 Orthodoxy is my doxy; heterodoxy is another man's doxy. 19:13:08 --William Warburton 19:13:52 I wonder what Billy Peaceburton would have said 19:16:13 I don't know, but probably he would have gone for a Burton. 19:16:39 W.W. was a bishop, and was explaining the word "heterodoxy" to his neighbor in the House of Lords. 19:17:11 short ton, long ton, Levarbur ton? 19:17:19 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:18:14 toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-111-248.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 19:19:00 Metric ton(ne), too. 19:20:28 I was going to leave those out since then we have to contemplate the fuckton 19:20:31 Belaf [~campedel@194.209.131.192] has joined #scheme 19:21:01 We also have Thornton 19:21:26 can no man rid me of these troublesome tons? 19:21:37 another non-working code http://codepad.org/oQkJaeaZ 19:22:25 incubot: (let ((Dollar 0)) (list Dollar 'Dollar)) 19:22:25 (0 Dollar) 19:22:30 Frq: see the difference? 19:23:03 -!- Belaf [~campedel@194.209.131.192] has left #scheme 19:23:07 no :/ 19:23:26 as in Ashford v. Thornton, the last case judged by wager of battle in England in 1818 19:23:50 incubot: (let ((Dollar 0)) (list `(Dollar 'Dollar) `(,Dollar Dollar))) 19:23:50 ((Dollar (quote Dollar)) (0 Dollar)) 19:23:53 not even a duel? 19:24:10 No, Ashford didn't show up. 19:24:19 Adamant: I think you misspelled it. I always write "Fuck-Tonne". The hyphen and the "nne" just add a ... je ne sais quois, n'est ce pas? 19:24:41 Absolument! 19:24:41 I just call it a 'metric fuckton' 19:24:45 And sans doute. 19:24:57 c'est vrai, je pense 19:25:20 Frq: in short you want to pass 'Dollar to search, like i said if you wanted to write "Dollar" alone you'd have to "cover" convert function with a macro. 19:25:47 or "search" function as may be the case now. 19:26:00 Adamant: you're right; "metric" is a crucial part 19:26:39 offby1: it does sound better than a 'Customary' or 'System Internationale' fuckton, doesn't it 19:27:05 I will reserve judgement in the case of Imperial tons. 19:27:15 rudybot: t8 pl tr Dluga droga przed toba. 19:27:16 sladegen: Senden önce uzun bir yol. 19:27:24 yeah, "English Fuck-Tonne" is tenable 19:27:32 but I prefer "Metric". It's just funnier. 19:27:37 And more traditional, ironically. 19:27:46 i think rudybot needs to have nick directed t8... 19:28:14 be more precise, man. Whaddya mean? 19:28:19 oh I see 19:28:31 you want to tell the bot: translate this, and address the translation to my Turkish-speaking friend over there 19:28:37 i got let but couldnt get what you want to tell me about my code 19:28:40 r8 19:29:28 -!- MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 19:29:48 (define Dollar (search Dolar)) 19:29:51 oops 19:30:10 (define Dollar (search 'Dollar)) ;; ironically missspelt. 19:30:16 there ya go 19:31:40 (define GBP (lambda () (search GBP))) what about this one? 19:31:52 oh h 19:33:12 that prolly won't work either 19:33:20 it'll complain that GBP isn't defined :) 19:33:31 if you think about it, it's silly: you're defining GBP in terms of itself. 19:33:39 (define GBP (lambda () (search 'GBP))) is more likely to work. 19:33:42 i'm about to drive crazy :S all day i couldnt convert just a currency 19:33:43 the only difference is that ' 19:34:09 Frq: believe it or not, you're learning some fairly subtle issues 19:34:12 don't feel bad 19:35:09 yes, sure i learned too much :) 19:35:31 is this a homework assignment, or are you just playing around? 19:35:40 If it's an assignment, I'd be interested to see it (in English) 19:37:38 its an assignment that says convert from Euro to Dollar TL to CHF else ... actually i didnt nee to learn assq let and others 19:38:11 the assignment didn't suggest any particular way? 19:38:12 interesting 19:38:22 (define DollarToEuro amount rate) 19:38:25 this was enough 19:38:32 ooh, that's a terrible idea 19:39:00 ppl did like that as i know 19:39:10 btw i still get this error: reference to undefined identifier: second 19:39:13 yeah 19:39:27 that's because codepad is using a very VERY old version of mzscheme, and I'm using a newer one. 19:39:31 u meant cadr? 19:39:34 But you could use cadr instead. 19:39:36 instead second 19:39:47 yes, cadr is fine. 19:39:56 then it says 19:39:57 cadr: expects argument of type ; given #f 19:40:03 the only difference is that "second" (to English speakers, at least) is more understandable. 19:40:08 ah. 19:40:15 That's because we gave it a symbol that isn't in the list. 19:40:32 When I implemented a Lisp years and years ago, there was a magic trick in APPLY that would allow C...R with any number of a's and d's to work. 19:40:44 btw this was my first question in my assignment... 19:41:00 i have 3 more to solve and so much harder than this :D 19:41:21 Frq: http://codepad.org/vMxLN9Ie 19:41:30 jcowan: cute. 19:41:32 sensible, too 19:42:06 i have microsoft internship exam tomorrow. i didnt go to Istanbul because of this homework didnt finish :S :S 19:42:15 geez. 19:42:24 You value your education more than a job? Kids today! 19:42:44 I'd go to Istanbul in one second 19:43:14 i thought if i cant even solve my homework than i cant pass the ms exam 19:43:28 i havent gone there, is it good :D 19:44:01 I don't know! 19:44:04 The pictures look nice though. 19:44:15 :D :D 19:44:46 -!- nurv is now known as nurv|afk 19:45:21 *sladegen* spoills the fun... http://codepad.org/oyPY2S6l with better idea. 19:45:21 Frq: I very much doubt that Microsoft will ask you questions about Lispp. 19:45:38 sladegen: sure. 19:45:46 ideally we'd do a bit o' error handling. 19:46:23 i dont know maybe next year i can learn :) istanbul is 10 hours from zmir. It's already impossible me to go there 19:46:44 I've actually been close to Izmir, if I recall correctly. 19:46:51 actually if i now have a shover and find a bus within 2 hours maybe i can join exam :) 19:47:39 my english is not good . to be close to somewhere = to visit there? 19:47:42 yes. 19:47:45 Frq: your English is fine 19:47:51 rudybot: t8 en tr Your English is fine 19:47:51 *offby1: ngilizce iyi 19:48:00 :D is this a bot 19:48:03 yes 19:48:05 or google translate ?:) 19:48:07 both. 19:48:11 (: 19:48:13 it's a bot that uses Google translate. 19:48:44 written with scheme=? :) 19:49:32 i liked this channel, bots are so good 19:51:03 rudybot: source 19:51:03 *offby1: git clone git://github.com/offby1/rudybot.git 19:51:09 not just Scheme, but PLT scheme! 19:51:21 rudybot: eval (banner) 19:51:21 *offby1: ; Value: "Welcome to MzScheme v4.2.5 [3m], Copyright (c) 2004-2010 PLT Scheme Inc.\n" 20:01:50 -!- nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:02:36 elderK [~zk@125-238-255-22.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 20:04:18 nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 20:12:45 -!- bitweiler [~phax@70.233.100.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17:00 I want to treat a scheme source file as an object 20:17:21 -!- nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:18:21 I want to treat haggis as edible 20:18:35 virl: what does "treat as an object" mean? 20:18:59 nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 20:19:08 offby1, I'm not really sure that myself. :-) 20:19:11 ah. 20:19:24 I too am filled with inchoate desire. 20:19:24 just (read) it... 20:19:29 dudleyf [~dudleyf@65.243.31.107] has joined #scheme 20:21:02 offby1, but infact I want to call a routine of a source file, which get's loaded. 20:21:03 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@c-98-216-238-231.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:36 concrete I want to call a "test me" routine for a couple of files at runtime. 20:21:46 Well, LOAD does that. 20:22:58 so I can say at the repl 'run-tests' and it runs the routine of file A, B and C. but each file has a routine with the name "test". 20:23:21 so each file shadows the definition of another file. 20:23:39 so I guess a simple LOAD doesn't do the trick. 20:23:51 -!- nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:24:19 virl: I suspect that's tricky. 20:24:24 I don't know a way to do that 20:24:49 or you could re-load and run test on each file... 20:25:19 I suppose you could enforce a convention: every source file defines a procedure with the same name -- "testme" e.g. -- and you then (somehow) get a list of source files. For each file, you load it and then run its "testme". 20:25:54 sstrickl [~sstrickl@c-98-216-238-231.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:26:10 hmm.. 20:26:26 that's too hacky... better write your own eval... 20:27:36 how is it called, when a routine knows which routines had the same name? ( history of overloaded definitions? ) 20:28:08 *sladegen* stares blankly at offby1's dentures. 20:28:48 "the definite redefinition"? 20:29:50 hmm.. you could then also say "undo" or "go back in time" and use an old definition for a routine.. sounds somehow interesting 20:29:50 nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 20:29:55 -!- certainty [~closure@dslc-082-082-130-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:31:08 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:33:36 mehrheit [~mehrheit@lan-84-240-55-160.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #scheme 20:36:10 -!- Narrenschiff [~ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [Quit: Narrenschiff] 20:37:55 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 20:39:38 schmir [~schmir@p54A90C61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 20:43:50 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:48:52 -!- myu2 [~myu2@w179122.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:22 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 20:53:02 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 20:56:23 -!- jcowan [~jcowan@cpe-98-14-172-204.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58:30 seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:59:07 virl: if you're using PLT scheme, investigate "namespaces". 20:59:19 jcowan [~jcowan@cpe-98-14-172-204.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 20:59:21 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 20:59:22 I've never investigated them, so I don't know any details; but I suspect they're what you'd want to fiddle with. 20:59:30 offby1, I'm using guile scheme 20:59:51 but it has them too. 21:00:25 I haven't played with guile in (literally) years, but I hear wingo is doing great things with it 21:00:49 scheme has (many) faults, but one plus is: implementers are often to be found in this very IRC channel 21:01:36 normally I poke wingo and he doesn't like it :-) 21:02:07 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A90C61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:03:08 -!- nurv|afk is now known as nurv 21:06:23 aw 21:06:44 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe] 21:07:14 *mbishop* pokes offby1 21:07:48 DON'T tempt the dentures. 21:09:00 *sladegen* screams in horror witnessing upon the poke another scheme implementation falling out of offby1. 21:09:34 -!- elderK [~zk@125-238-255-22.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #scheme 21:10:09 hmm.. I want to make a macro which tests if a symbol exists and if not it should create it with a define. 21:10:21 but just wrapping that in an if doesn't work. 21:11:08 tommc [~6d4aca2b@gateway/web/freenode/x-abjwmrfqdghwhcbu] has joined #scheme 21:11:13 ugh 21:11:22 Hello 21:11:23 that way madness lies 21:11:42 tommc: I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to ...oh, never mind 21:14:37 I'm currently looking into PLT Scheme for web development. Can anyone vouch for it's suitability in a commercial setting? 21:15:25 Initially I'm interested in rapid prototyping, but beyond that my concerns are scaling, deployment etc. 21:17:03 -!- attila_lendvai [~ati@catv-89-133-171-82.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:17:58 -!- dudleyf [~dudleyf@65.243.31.107] has quit [Quit: dudleyf] 21:19:11 tommc: you want to talk to the "untyped" guys. 21:19:15 They'll vouch. 21:21:34 tommc: http://www.untyped.com/portfolio.html#open-source 21:21:58 -!- toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-111-248.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:22:57 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:59 Was just reading their report almost titled to my question ;-) 21:23:20 they're the only guys that I _know_ are using it commericallly 21:23:32 I suppose others might be doing it secretly, but my hunch is, not many people are. 21:23:45 It's like everything else in the lisp world -- unpopular. 21:23:56 *offby1* wonders if google's recent acquisition of ITA will change anything 21:24:08 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 21:24:57 offby1: Google acquired ITA? Is this an April Fools? 21:25:38 don't think so. 21:25:38 I'm not interested in being 'popular' just productive. And have been interested in picking up a new language. Normally work in haskell and erlang. My lisp skills have faded a bit ;-( 21:25:55 tommc: you're clearly our kinda guy :) 21:26:00 total nerd languages, all 21:26:04 what's ITA? 21:26:18 a company that wrote some of the airline-fare-searching software that Orbitz uses. 21:26:29 -!- Frq [~chatzilla@88.241.162.143] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 21:26:40 virl: http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html; search for "ITA" 21:27:07 or http://www.paulgraham.com/carl.html 21:29:17 offby1: QPX (or whatever it's called) is used by many, many more companies than Orbitz now. :-D 21:30:38 -!- fsm5 [~chatzilla@88.240.64.196] has left #scheme 21:30:59 MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 21:32:38 dunno what QPX is. 21:34:51 -!- virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:52 -!- nurv [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38:33 -!- choas [~lars@p5B0DFBD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:39:21 nurv|afk [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 21:39:29 -!- nurv|afk is now known as nurv 21:39:55 jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:50:50 davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has joined #scheme 21:56:28 -!- saccade_ [~saccade@dhcp-18-111-66-219.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:57:47 -!- pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.12.21] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:51 myu2 [~myu2@w179122.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #scheme 22:01:09 phax [~phax@70.233.100.37] has joined #scheme 22:02:02 -!- glogic [~rm@97.76.48.98] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:08:36 slyphon [~slyphon@unaffiliated/slyphon] has joined #scheme 22:10:56 -!- mehrheit [~mehrheit@lan-84-240-55-160.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:15:37 -!- nurv [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:19:40 -!- phax is now known as bitweiler 22:19:44 -!- russkey [~russkey@ool-18bb0ebd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:20:12 nurv [nurv@62.32.144.128] has joined #scheme 22:21:58 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:23:00 -!- Symmetry- [~thezog@host-static-92-114-207-115.moldtelecom.md] has left #scheme 22:23:44 russkey [~russkey@ool-18bb0ebd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 22:30:39 -!- seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:42 jao [~jao@6.Red-88-18-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:31:34 seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:33:25 Fabse [~mightyfid@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has joined #scheme 22:39:38 -!- rdd` [~user@c83-250-52-182.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:42 -!- seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:57 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 22:43:06 seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:47:50 -!- seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:03 seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:52:43 offby1: QPX is ITA's flagship product. 22:56:11 Frq [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has joined #scheme 22:56:45 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@146.233.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:57:29 mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 23:02:28 -!- davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:01 ah 23:03:15 love those TLAs. 23:03:38 -!- tommc [~6d4aca2b@gateway/web/freenode/x-abjwmrfqdghwhcbu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:05:37 -!- nurv [nurv@62.32.144.128] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06:15 nurv|afk [nurv@83.231.19.199] has joined #scheme 23:06:30 -!- nurv|afk is now known as nurv 23:07:57 davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has joined #scheme 23:12:58 -!- fradgers- [~fradgers-@5ad7bb5e.bb.sky.com] has left #scheme 23:16:21 Maxel_ [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:17:16 offby1: I love that you now have to de-acronym TLA in this context 23:17:25 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 23:17:40 -!- nurv [nurv@83.231.19.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:18:23 I do? 23:18:24 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-162-12-wblv-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:18:45 does "de-acronym" mean the same as "expand"? 23:18:54 rudybot: TLA 23:18:54 *offby1: eh? Try "rudybot: help". 23:19:03 rudybot: flubber 23:19:03 *offby1: eh? Try "rudybot: help". 23:19:11 rudybot: go lay by your dish 23:19:11 *offby1: Why does the unwind-protect lay its egg in the air? 23:19:59 Frq_ [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has joined #scheme 23:21:45 -!- Frq [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:22:33 Frq [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has joined #scheme 23:22:55 erato [~user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 23:23:07 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:23:39 -!- jcowan [~jcowan@cpe-98-14-172-204.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #scheme 23:26:02 -!- Frq_ [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:26:19 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-162-12-wblv-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 23:27:01 offby1: basically 23:27:17 offby1: and actually I do 23:27:35 I have to figure out if it's Three Letter Agency or Three Letter Acronym :P 23:27:46 either seems plausible :P 23:30:38 -!- MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 23:32:41 MononcQc [~ferd@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 23:37:19 -!- davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:55 rtra [~rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has joined #scheme 23:40:27 -!- Frq [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:22 Frq [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has joined #scheme 23:43:35 mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 23:43:37 -!- slyphon [~slyphon@unaffiliated/slyphon] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6.2] 23:43:55 -!- bitweiler [~phax@70.233.100.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:57 Frq_ [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has joined #scheme 23:46:27 Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 23:46:53 -!- Frq [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:46:57 Frq__ [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has joined #scheme 23:46:59 -!- Frq__ is now known as Frq 23:49:14 -!- Frq_ [~chatzilla@88.240.84.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49:31 -!- seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:50:25 -!- Maxel_ [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:58:12 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Quit: jeapostrophe]