00:03:12 mejja pasted "montecarlopi" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/96491 00:03:48 mejja annotated #96491 "c" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/96491#1 00:05:14 mejja annotated #96491 "timings" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/96491#2 00:06:04 -!- hiyuh [~hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: |_ e /\ \/ i |/| G] 00:08:54 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-31.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:17 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-31.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 00:11:39 -!- elf [elf@antenora.aculei.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:11:44 elf [elf@antenora.aculei.net] has joined #scheme 00:18:44 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:59 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 00:19:39 -!- rudybot [~luser@offby1.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:20:59 rudybot [~luser@offby1.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #scheme 00:21:12 dude needed the usual Gambit decls... (declare (block) (standard-bindings) (not safe) and maybe (not generic)). qv gsc -prelude 00:21:43 I'm not a gambit user.. 00:21:59 I'm not a blog drive-by commenter 00:22:57 maybe I should say, dude needed to visit #gambit or post to gambit-list or even grep same list 00:23:19 mejja annotated #96491 "embaressed" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/96491#3 00:24:16 mejja: how long did Stalin take to compile that? 00:24:46 A few seconds. 00:25:22 real 0m23.859s user 0m23.593s sys 0m0.180s 00:28:18 -!- rudybot [~luser@offby1.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:30:20 sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-141-157-183-82.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 00:32:01 rudybot [~luser@offby1.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #scheme 00:32:05 chandler_ [~n@new.unmutual.info] has joined #scheme 00:32:13 -!- chandler_ [~n@new.unmutual.info] has quit [Changing host] 00:32:13 chandler_ [~n@opendarwin/developer/chandler] has joined #scheme 00:32:23 -!- chandler [~n@opendarwin/developer/chandler] has 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I couldn't make with the call/cc passing arguments problem I had yesterday, it works but then I can't set the new continuation properly 13:23:05 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:23:20 however, I have a visualization architecture I'm happy with now! 13:23:49 it's so nice, because I could invert how things are normally done in OOP languages 13:24:29 splitting easily the backend implementation from the interface 13:24:38 scheme rocks 13:26:45 alvatar: I am interested in a visualization architecture. Is this something you can share? I'd be thankful 13:26:58 Ya, mee too 13:27:25 C-Keen: it is shared! But beware, I'm a noob. 13:27:35 It is alpha-alpha 13:27:57 and just utility for the real algorithms I'm working with 13:28:01 but here you go: 13:28:12 https://www.assembla.com/code/ensanche/ 13:28:28 alvatar: thanks! 13:28:39 pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.28.180] has joined #scheme 13:28:44 alvatar: heh thank link 404's 13:28:53 *that 13:29:26 https://www.assembla.com/code/ensanche/git/nodes?rev=master 13:29:33 zry :) 13:29:42 ah much better thanks :) 13:30:15 alvatar what exactly is it for vizualizing? 13:30:35 currently is GPL-3 due to some people around me that want to use it for earning money without paying me and taking credit for it. Once that's fixed it will BSD 13:30:50 the visualization is of architectural plans 13:30:55 coded as sxml 13:31:02 3D ? 13:31:07 it's rather domain-specific, I doubt it's useful for you 13:31:07 Or 2D? 13:31:09 nope 13:31:09 rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has joined #scheme 13:31:10 2d 13:31:16 but it will grow 13:31:28 and eventually split the visualization part 13:31:37 Its probably very useful as an example, I am making 4D gfx toolkit 13:31:40 i'm starting to like scheme very much and I think is work it 13:31:42 worth it 13:31:48 Thanks for sharing. 13:32:04 no problem! but I insist... I'm beginner :) 13:32:25 alvatar: at least it will get me some new ideas. This is the fun part of reading other people's code 13:32:37 alvatar mind if I ask, do you parse xml into abstract objects or bitmaps or what? 13:32:48 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33:04 C-Keen: :) great! If you have suggestions, I'd be very happy 13:33:55 csmrfx: it's parsed as a SXML that are abstract objects 13:34:02 I work directly processing that SXML 13:34:17 I'm working with geometrical/topological operations at the architectural level 13:34:34 next step is evolutionary algorithms for finding new distributions of plans 13:34:38 langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 13:34:48 so actually that is the important part of the project 13:35:51 visualization is just for understanding and debugging the algorithms, but another person is doing the *real* visualization in C++ 13:37:19 Scheme C-bindings are kinda interesting. If I will ever get as far as to need em. 13:37:47 most of the bindings are from Gambit's dumping grounds, thought I've modified a bit of SDL ones 13:37:58 I wonder if Gambit bindings are different from the bindings that mzscheme would use. 13:38:31 they are very C-style 13:39:10 but I made a couple of higher-level functions, interaction in this program is primitive: space and esc 13:39:20 I also would like to make that more general 13:40:02 mickn [~mickn@69-165-161-19.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 13:40:27 at this moment I'm removing cairo stuff from graph.scm and making it backend-agnostic 13:53:48 -!- michalk [~michalk@chello089073134224.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:25 myu2 [~myu2@KD125029047221.ppp.prin.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 13:55:34 luz [~davids@139.82.89.70] has joined #scheme 13:59:37 reprore_ [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 14:05:29 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:06:01 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 14:07:39 schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has joined #scheme 14:08:46 -!- pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.28.180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:28 -!- bokr [~eduska@95.154.102.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:17:12 k4jd095b_ [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has joined #scheme 14:17:20 -!- mickn [~mickn@69-165-161-19.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:18:28 masm [~masm@bl7-205-6.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 14:20:36 -!- noam [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25:39 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28:13 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 14:28:53 bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 14:33:52 orbital_fox [~quassel@77-44-75-13.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #scheme 14:34:21 what is the best implentation of scheme in linux? 14:34:25 particularly ubuntu? 14:34:50 heh 14:34:52 depends 14:35:13 http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-standards#implementations 14:36:19 if you are interested in learning scheme just pick an implementation and stick with it for a while 14:37:11 foof [~user@FL1-118-110-11-244.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #scheme 14:37:53 C-Keen: i like my code to compile and be efficient.. and Im particularly interested in web development just now 14:38:50 C-Keen: but also some linux development, so id like networking and gui libraries as well 14:38:52 orbital_fox: then have a look at pltscheme, chicken scheme, gambit and... 14:40:02 rstandy [~rastandy@net-93-144-87-211.t2.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #scheme 14:40:35 C-Keen: do you have experience with linux development using scheme? 14:41:27 orbital_fox: yes 14:41:40 which one is your favourite and why? 14:42:39 im sorry these are probably your everyday "noob" questions of why get this, its blue better than red 14:42:45 chicken, lots of libraries (called 'eggs') and compiles to native code (and works out of the box for my bsds and I tried it first) 14:43:04 bsds as well? thats bonus :D 14:43:23 orbital_fox: plt-scheme also has lots of libraries the bigger community and a nice gui/debugger 14:44:09 which one would you say makes more efficient code? how many years of experience have you got with scheme (chicken or plt-scheme) 14:44:46 -!- k4jd095b_ [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:44:50 -!- jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:44:59 k4jd095b_ [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has joined #scheme 14:45:00 from what I know plt-scheme is faster with floating points for example 14:45:53 sepult` [~user@xdsl-87-79-112-113.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:46:01 I use chicken scheme for daily tasks and at work for 2 years now, I do drop into plt scheme occasionally but I am not too familiar with the details 14:46:43 i planning to make a little physics engine at some point 14:47:06 which implementation would you say provides the best environment for such a project? 14:47:10 Are plt faster than chicken for flonums even after 4.3.something, when Felix optimized flonum operations? 14:47:33 s/Are/Is/ 14:47:47 mario-goulart: I am not sure 14:48:03 -!- sepult [~user@xdsl-87-78-129-225.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:48:19 orbital_fox: if you need to interface with c libraries a lot chickens FFI is probably easier 14:48:36 -!- reprore_ [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:01 -!- myu2 [~myu2@KD125029047221.ppp.prin.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:49:49 C-Keen: do you program in C/C++ at all? 14:50:38 for a living 15:03:05 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:59 jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 15:07:03 schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has joined #scheme 15:13:29 -!- haptiK [~alsodongs@157.140.112.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:15:29 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 15:16:36 -!- foof [~user@FL1-118-110-11-244.osk.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:20:45 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:37:30 orbital_fox: I would suggest you look at Gambit Scheme too. 15:37:53 It has quite good performance on numeric code, and it's very easy to interface to C. 15:38:14 -!- luz [~davids@139.82.89.70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:03 chandler: ill have a look at it just now 15:41:45 i had a very helpful quick chat with C-Keen about scheme and lisp 15:42:29 i must say the idea of the language not being design for manual memory handling where needed was a big minus for me 15:42:41 at least for most of the things I deal with 15:43:02 _Pb [~jcw@75.131.194.186] has joined #scheme 15:43:25 I did not say that 15:44:29 i know, i wasnt suggesting that.. ive been looking around and it seems that the typical way to use scheme is let memory and type checks to be done by the interpreter 15:45:13 yes, scheme is dynamically typed. You can extend it though to use strong typing or type annotations 15:46:34 and pointers? 15:47:30 as you don't know where your objects will get placed in memory, pointers do not make much sense 15:48:21 not its not easy to know that, but you can now how they are structured together, and that is enough for most trickery 15:48:50 Why do you need "trickery"? 15:49:26 to get the code to run as fast as possible where its needed 15:49:59 -!- lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has quit [Quit: Want lisppaste in your channel? Email lisppaste-requests AT common-lisp.net.] 15:50:02 lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 15:51:54 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@164.126.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:53:04 usually the base data structures are already efficiently implemented 15:53:51 ok 15:54:11 pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.28.180] has joined #scheme 15:55:06 i thank everyone for helping me out :) 15:55:22 i still really like the language syntax a lot 15:59:20 Scheme is not C. (Very few languages other than C are C.) 16:00:14 And for "web development"? Who gives a damn about fast numerics then? 16:00:25 -!- hkBst [~hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:34 and the next axiom is: Other languages than are efficient too 16:00:37 * C 16:01:09 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:21 Daemmerung: not you dont care for numerics then, its only integration with popular systems and infrastructures you care for webdevelopment 16:01:25 For direct memory layout, Erlang I s'pose 16:02:10 chicken's ahead of Gambit in the "popular systems" regard. It has a richer set of libraries and a webbier userbase. 16:02:29 'webbier' 16:02:39 ;) 16:02:39 mo' betta' webby 16:06:33 annodomini [~lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:06:34 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:06:34 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 16:12:07 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-222.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 16:20:45 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-129-44-187-133.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 16:26:41 -!- _Pb [~jcw@75.131.194.186] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26:53 rotty [~rotty@nncmain.nicenamecrew.com] has joined #scheme 16:28:01 *sjamaan* glances around nervously 16:28:04 "webby"? 16:29:55 webby. 16:30:03 *elly* sprays web across the channel 16:30:21 Guilty as charged :( 16:34:17 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@ppp-70-251-133-183.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 16:35:14 Fabse [~mightyfid@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has joined #scheme 16:37:16 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 16:38:58 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@ppp-70-251-133-183.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:51:29 -!- PygoscelisPapua [~pygospa@f055039252.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:53:22 PygoscelisPapua [~pygospa@f055028045.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 16:53:23 -!- Mandar [~armand@217.108.230.48] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 16:53:23 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:21 -!- orbital_fox [~quassel@77-44-75-13.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:54 -!- amca [~amca@CPE-121-208-82-97.cqzr1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Farewell] 17:05:43 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:09:00 minion: chant 17:09:00 MORE I 17:09:08 you are not helpful, minion 17:16:23 saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:16:46 luz [~davids@139.82.89.70] has joined #scheme 17:19:53 -!- sepult` [~user@xdsl-87-79-112-113.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:21:57 michalk [~michalk@chello089073134224.chello.pl] has joined #scheme 17:24:44 sstrickl [~sstrickl@dublin.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 17:27:13 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@dublin.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:36 sstrickl [~sstrickl@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 17:40:25 sepult [~user@xdsl-87-79-112-113.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:41:22 -!- Checkie [8444@unaffiliated/checkie] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:54:26 toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-143-127.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 17:59:08 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 18:01:57 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:03:26 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 18:14:30 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:21:59 scheibo [~scheibo@129-97-249-119.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 18:24:24 flonum [~ben@24-138-98-109.zing-net.ca] has joined #scheme 18:26:08 jedc [~jedc@c-76-105-131-240.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:28:21 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has left #scheme 18:34:05 Oh, what a mess. I leave for a couple of hours, and look what happens. 18:34:19 *Daemmerung* clears the cobwebs 18:34:40 *elly* covers Daemmerung in web! 18:34:58 Gaaah! Curse you Spider-Elly! 18:35:05 -!- phao [~phao@189.107.186.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:35:22 You started it! 18:35:28 Moi? 18:35:47 *Daemmerung* leaves to fetch another pair of "Dr. Octopus" style glasses 18:35:51 phao [~phao@189.107.186.191] has joined #scheme 18:38:24 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 18:39:28 what to I need to do to get command line arguments from an r5rs program using plt-r5rs? 18:39:54 leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-50-80.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 18:43:26 import scheme/command-line via `#%require'. See "Non-R5RS Bindings from r5rs" in the relevant documentation. 18:45:13 thank you 18:45:53 -!- Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-48-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:49:57 Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-48-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:52:14 scheibo_ [~scheibo@129-97-249-119.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 18:52:50 -!- scheibo [~scheibo@129-97-249-119.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:13 Riastradh [~riastradh@tissot.csail.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 19:00:06 -!- Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-48-133.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:19 oconnore_ [~oconnore_@ip72-210-76-249.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #scheme 19:03:49 Checkie [13539@unaffiliated/checkie] has joined #scheme 19:05:26 sphex [~nobody@modemcable072.42-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 19:07:31 -!- flonum [~ben@24-138-98-109.zing-net.ca] has left #scheme 19:08:43 -!- sphex_ [~nobody@modemcable072.42-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:14:13 -!- leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-50-80.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:14:20 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 19:20:33 -!- attila_lendvai [~ati@4d6f5d3b.adsl.enternet.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:20:47 alvatar [~alvatar@164.126.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 19:37:37 doelie [~tom@cust-158-23-109-94.dyn.as47377.net] has joined #scheme 19:44:32 leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-50-80.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 19:49:06 -!- leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-50-80.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:49:39 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:33 fabe [~fabe@p54A7E2C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:55:23 drwho [~drwho@c-71-225-11-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:55:42 fabe pasted "chicken scheme game loop" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/96519 19:55:53 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@164.126.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:11 ih 19:56:13 hi 19:56:38 anyone know their way around chicken scheme? 19:57:00 didn't expect the bot do post it :) 19:58:43 i starting to write a game in it but the main loop is eating up memory :( 19:59:26 should it not be tail recursive ? 20:00:32 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@64.134.146.84] has joined #scheme 20:02:37 leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-50-80.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 20:02:47 alvatar [~alvatar@194.119.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 20:14:09 Try #chicken next door 20:14:14 fabe: If until is a looping construct then it loops while it recurses. 20:15:03 I would hope that `until' is a one-armed conditional construct, so (loop) is in tail pos 20:15:35 rudybot: doc unless 20:15:46 Daemmerung: your scheme sandbox is ready 20:15:49 Daemmerung: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference/when_unless.html#(form._((lib._scheme%2Fprivate%2Fletstx-scheme..ss)._unless)) 20:16:33 But I don't know Chicken, so anything's possible 20:17:44 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 20:17:48 -!- KatieHuber|away is now known as KatieHuber 20:17:58 Daemmerung: He got an explanation next door :) 20:18:13 His expression expands to (define (loop) (display "called")(newline) (letrec ((loop2 (lambda () (unless exit-loop (loop) (loop2))))) 20:18:19 (loop) isn't in tail position 20:19:01 sjamaan: Thanks for the on-the-scene reporting live! from #chicken 20:19:08 :) 20:19:12 yw 20:20:23 Looks like it loops while it recurses. :-) 20:20:37 Indeed 20:20:45 Just clearing up the confusion 20:25:10 thanks 20:27:17 -!- fabe is now known as fabe_afk 20:28:02 Just wondering, is there documentation for until somewhere? I wasn't aware of it until now, and I couldn't find it in the manual. 20:29:14 It's part of miscmacros, but apparently it's used internally by chicken too, and exposed 20:29:14 -!- rstandy [~rastandy@net-93-144-87-211.t2.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29:30 That shouldn't happen (because it only works in compiled code, not in interpreted code) 20:29:54 I was gonna say, typing (until #f (display "x")) fails at the toplevel of csi. 20:30:27 (use miscmacros) would be the "proper" way of getting it 20:30:34 Be nice if incubot indexed the Chicken documentation, Rudybot and specbot-style 20:30:56 Paging klutometis, klutometis, please pick up the white #scheme courtesy phone 20:31:18 :) 20:32:54 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@64.134.146.84] has quit [Quit: hadronzoo] 20:35:02 Crito [~none@unaffiliated/crito] has joined #scheme 20:36:18 metasyntax`: That seems to be incorrect. It just never gets around to evaluating UNTIL 20:37:41 In saying "fails" I did not define the problem wrong; until is unbound. 20:37:54 Oops, I meant I did not define the problem well. :-) 20:43:05 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@194.119.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:44:33 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:30 erato [~user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 20:48:10 -!- michalk [~michalk@chello089073134224.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:40 -!- luz [~davids@139.82.89.70] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 21:00:30 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 21:05:10 -!- leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-50-80.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:13:52 -!- mario-goulart [~user@67.205.85.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:35 -!- erato [~user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:37 -!- toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-143-127.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:27:05 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 21:27:21 -!- melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:18 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:36 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 21:29:23 alexsuraci_ [~alexsurac@32.170.97.189] has joined #scheme 21:32:13 -!- alexsuraci_ [~alexsurac@32.170.97.189] has quit [Client Quit] 21:32:49 -!- Sergio` [~Sergio`@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:32:53 Sergio` [~Sergio`@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has joined #scheme 21:36:43 -!- langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:37:22 melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #scheme 21:37:33 -!- Modius [~Modius@cpe-70-123-130-159.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I'm big in Japan] 21:38:56 mario-goulart [~user@67.205.85.241] has joined #scheme 21:43:45 Hi - I am new to scheme. can anyone tell me what is it I am doing wrong here: http://web.mit.edu/crito/www/scm/test ? 21:46:04 rudybot: eval ((3 b b b )(b 2 b b) (b b b b)(b b b 4)) 21:46:05 chandler: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: b in module: 'program 21:46:28 rudybot: eval '((3 b b b )(b 2 b b) (b b b b)(b b b 4)) 21:46:28 *chandler* drums fingers impatiently 21:46:28 chandler: ; Value: ((3 b b b) (b 2 b b) (b b b b) (b b b 4)) 21:46:52 heh 21:47:06 You missed a quote, in other words. 21:47:14 -!- m811 [~user@150.181.35.213.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:47:30 -!- jimrees_ [~jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:48:13 err. now I get procedure represent-board: expects 2 arguments, given 1: ((3 b b b) (b 2 b b) (b b b b) (b b b 4)) 21:49:30 Well, it does. Did you write this code? 21:50:15 I am evaluating some example code provided. 21:50:17 or trying to 21:51:07 -!- melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:21 `represent-board' takes two arguments, named `row' and `contents'. Do you know what to supply for each of those? 21:52:40 basically, it is supposed to take stuff like "((3 b b b )(b 2 b b) (b b b b)(b b b 4))" and convert them to "(((1 1) 3)((2 2) 2)((4 4) 4))" 21:53:35 *Daemmerung* wonders what sort of advice minion would offer 21:54:47 Is that a row, or is it contents? From where are you getting these examples? 21:55:37 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:28 -!- mbishop [~martin@adsl-222-22-232.msy.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:59:21 mbishop [~martin@adsl-241-72-76.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 22:01:22 melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #scheme 22:05:12 figured it out. I am an idiot =) 22:06:53 minion: advice for Daemmerung? 22:06:53 Daemmerung: #11960: So you threw in some random punctuation for no particular reason, and then you didn't get the result you expected. 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