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02:20:07 well I think I found out that () implies it is a pair 02:20:34 so I just defined my image as [(0,1), (0,2)] and so on 02:21:02 what's that supposed to be? 02:21:11 oh no, that's a tuple 02:21:21 almost as good as a user-defined Pair type 02:21:42 take it and run! 02:22:28 so now I'm trying to figure out how to implement something to the effect of what car and cdr do 02:24:06 do you have any advice? it seems like I am going to have to make a function to do it 02:24:31 that is not the right way to do things in ML :P 02:25:42 U 02:25:51 oops, sorry 02:25:55 There are functions like that iirc, but you should be using pattern matching 02:26:38 search that pdf for pattern matching and you'll see how nice and easy it is 02:26:40 brb 02:26:44 yeah :) 02:29:03 ah shoot, yeah that makes a bit more sense 02:29:19 a pretty nice way to pull stuff out of a custom data structure for sure 02:29:52 very :P 02:29:52 -!- reynard [~alan@119.237.171.225] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:29:52 so what happens if I mess up when I make my data and it doesn't adhere to that pattern completely? does it just ignore the outliers? 02:29:59 huh? 02:30:05 what do you mean, doesn't adhere to that pattern? 02:30:48 the typechecker will guarantee at compile-time that it does 02:30:50 like say I want a pattern of tuples in a list, [(x,y), (x,y), (x(t,z),y)] so like there is a tuple in a tuple thrown in 02:31:03 and I don't know if that would actually work I'm just speaking hypothetically 02:31:11 there can't just be one "thrown in"; the typechecker won't accept it 02:32:31 -!- metasyntax [~taylor@pool-71-127-125-129.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Be seeing you.] 02:33:46 ok, so I tried to just do this to make a pattern matching and I'm not getting something completely right cause it shoots out an error: val [(x:int, y:int)] = pair; 02:34:15 in my head I'm trying to name those grouping of ordered pairs: pair, and it will have an x and y of type int 02:34:27 er so 02:34:30 what type is pair there? 02:34:37 or rather, what type is it supposed to be? 02:35:10 ah, so the [] are unnecessary? I'm trying to define (x,y) as a pair 02:35:24 but they exist in a list, is that just totally irrelevant to the pattern? 02:35:30 huh? no 02:35:35 your expression is not well-formed 02:35:39 and I can't really tell what you mean 02:35:43 yobhel [~yobhel@142.176.238.58] has joined #scheme 02:35:53 are you trying to define a new type, or extract values from a list of 2-tuples? 02:36:14 I am trying to extract values from a list of 2 tuples 02:36:20 okay, so: 02:36:35 fun f ((x,y) :: rest) = ... 02:36:43 will bind (x,y) to the first 2-tuple in the list 02:36:58 hmmm 02:36:58 so x is the first value of the first 2-tuple in the list, and y is the second value of the first 2-tuple in the list 02:37:41 ok 02:37:46 you can do this, which I think may be what you mean: 02:37:53 - val lst = [(0,1), (1,2), (2,0)]; 02:37:54 val lst = [(0,1),(1,2),(2,0)] : (int * int) list 02:37:54 - val ((x,y) :: rest) = lst; 02:38:05 if you do that, x : int, y : int, and rest : (int * int) list 02:38:59 -!- Maxel [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:39:18 Maxel [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:39:36 Maxel: 02:39:41 21:36 < Maxel> ok 02:39:42 21:36 < elly> you can do this, which I think may be what you mean: 02:39:42 21:36 -!- Irssi: Pasting 3 lines to #scheme. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel. 02:39:45 21:36 < elly> - val lst = [(0,1), (1,2), (2,0)]; 02:39:47 21:36 < elly> val lst = [(0,1),(1,2),(2,0)] : (int * int) list 02:39:50 21:36 < elly> - val ((x,y) :: rest) = lst; 02:39:53 21:36 < elly> if you do that, x : int, y : int, and rest : (int * int) list 02:39:55 21:37 -!- Maxel [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:39:57 ugh xchat does not like my tweaked exe 02:39:58 21:38 -!- Maxel [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:40:06 yeah, I think that is what I want 02:40:31 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40:36 then beyond that I since I am going to want to have similar functionality to car and cdr, will I be able to pick that first pair off and recursively go through the list? 02:40:45 -!- yobhel [~yobhel@142.176.238.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40:48 so like, I want to create a function that will search a list to see if an ordered pair exists in it 02:40:58 you do not want car and cdr 02:41:02 you want pattern matching 02:41:11 refer to the definition I gave of map before: 02:41:16 fun map f [] = [] 02:41:24 | map f (x :: xs) = f x :: map f xs 02:41:39 that function operates by pulling the first element off the head of the list using pattern matching 02:44:38 parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #scheme 02:46:32 going back to defining the lists, I did the first thing of creating the ordered pairs, do I need to add : (int * int) listto the end of each list? 02:46:52 not usually; the compiler can infer types for expressions for you 02:47:28 so the thing I do need to add is val ((x,y) :: rest) = lst; 02:47:44 you could do that, but I have no idea why you'd ever write that declaration 02:47:52 unless you are inside a let block, I guess... 02:48:00 or a match block 02:48:04 might help 02:49:39 ok, again I apologize but I'm a little lost 02:50:16 so 02:50:34 you mentioned that you are attempting to write a function which checks whether a particular ordered pair is in a list 02:50:40 right 02:50:56 -!- virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50:59 what, in words, is the recursive definition of that function? 02:51:31 ok 02:52:10 so while the list is not empty, check to see if the ordered pair is equal to the car of list l, otherwise call the function on the cdr of list l 02:52:40 Maxel, there's probably an excellent function just like that in the pdf link i posted :| 02:52:42 is what I have in scheme 02:52:45 so what is the termination condition for the recursive algorithm? 02:52:59 Owner_: I assume the goal here is to implement that without reference to existing ones 02:52:59 when the function is called on an empty list 02:53:09 okay, so let's write that down: 02:53:18 fun lookfor (x,y) [] = NONE 02:53:39 so our function will have type: (int * int) -> (int * int) list -> (int * int) option 02:53:50 elly: you mean without reading anything about SML? I think not. His job is to convert a scheme program into SML. 02:53:51 do you follow that? 02:54:03 Owner_: I mean without using the basis library function for this :P 02:54:20 I mean, I dunno; if you're just trying to translate, use foldl and be done with it 02:54:24 I did not mean the basis library. the pdf link i posted is an into pdf, not the basis library docs. 02:54:29 -!- rogue [rogue@unaffiliated/rogue] has left #scheme 02:54:34 oh, you linked harper's book 02:54:35 excellent 02:54:38 :) 02:54:48 ignore me, go read that :P 02:54:55 elly: your job is to make the sml/nj website be user-friendly. 02:55:04 _my_ job? 02:55:11 I don't think so :P 02:55:16 ok... 02:57:09 so read the book? 02:57:16 yes 02:57:20 harper's book is pretty good 03:05:11 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@lec67-4-82-235-57-28.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:30 nowhere_man [~pierre@lec67-4-82-235-57-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 03:06:33 Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 03:08:29 Maxel_ [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 03:09:16 adu [~ajr@pool-74-96-89-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:11:57 -!- Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:16:20 maxels come back 03:16:54 they rejoined as Maxel_ 03:17:20 yeah I'm on two different computers here and I am trying to bring up xchat on both 03:17:29 -!- Maxel_ is now known as Maxels 03:18:25 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-192.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 03:20:19 -!- Fabse [~mightyfid@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has quit [] 03:21:24 leppie [~lolcow@dsl-243-6-19.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 03:22:46 I am not sure why but reading the stuff in this book is making 0 sense to me 03:26:39 hah 03:28:10 which stuff in particular? 03:28:44 well I jumped right down to functions 03:29:01 because I need to get this conversion done tonight and I just need to convert a bunch of functions from scheme to ml essentially 03:29:36 fun inList(x, (a, b) :: ls) = if x == a true else inList(ls) 03:29:41 something like that should do 03:30:00 you'd need to do one for if the list is empty/just nil 03:30:05 that will test if x is the first element of any pair in the list :P 03:30:11 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-192.gmavt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:30:21 i wasn't sure exactly what he needed 03:30:32 you can replace x with (x, y) 03:31:59 ok, so I can do something like: fun contains? ((x,y), list(x,y) :: ls), and then I need an end condition for if it has searched every element 03:32:24 (x, y)::ls is a list, get rid of 'list' 03:32:53 ls is the 'cdr', (x, y) is the 'car' 03:33:27 ok, so ls is a keyword 03:33:45 no 03:33:50 it is a variable name 03:34:06 you can build a list like this: val z = 1 :: [2, 3]; 03:34:16 (read that as: (define z (cons 1 (list 2 3)))) 03:34:25 and you can also use it to _un_build a list: 03:34:46 val (x :: rest) = [1, 2, 3] -> x = 1, rest = [2, 3] 03:36:30 you can't use x and y twice in that example Maxel 03:37:08 a,b,x,t, and ls are all passed in variables 03:37:29 except (x, y) :: ls is only 1 passed in variable, the list you are checking 03:37:38 yes 03:37:46 that is a single argument to the function, which you are destructuring 03:37:51 with a pattern match 03:38:40 Maxel_ [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 03:39:22 fun inList((x,y), (a, b) :: ls) = if (x,y) == (a,b) true else inList(ls) 03:39:31 so is that more like what I want? 03:39:41 i think so 03:39:57 try it 03:40:09 so after I define that function, I could send it with inList ((1,2), list1) 03:40:11 alright 03:40:38 yes 03:41:03 this pattern matching is a more 'efficient' way of assigning things to local variables 03:41:11 more terse/succinct 03:41:32 and of checking the structure/type of what's passed in 03:41:41 it said syntax error, else deleted 03:42:26 -!- Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:42:41 -!- Maxel_ is now known as Maxels 03:45:50 yea.... not working how I had hoped :( 03:46:18 lulz 03:46:29 else deleted?? 03:46:36 yeah I odn't know what that means 03:46:55 it means you have an extra else that shouldn't be there 03:47:33 grr, I hate you can't copy and paste within sml/nj 03:47:41 yeah! http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Courses/cs312/2003fa/handouts/cheatsheet.pdf 03:47:54 use a separate text file and use the 'use' command! 03:49:13 yes, use a text file :P 03:49:37 fun sum is that cheat sheet pdf uses pattern matching 03:50:09 is x:int a declaration? 03:50:45 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Quit: Adamant] 03:51:00 sorta? 03:51:04 val x : int = ... is 03:51:06 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 03:52:33 where do I stick the file so I can use the use command 03:52:49 in the directory from which you are running sml/nj 03:52:52 src folder? 03:53:17 use "foo.sml" loads foo.sml from the current working directory 03:53:34 if sml/nj is in your path, you might be able to make any directory you want and run those files from there 03:53:38 right I just dont know what the default cwd is 03:53:45 wherever you started it, I think 03:53:53 *sigh* 03:53:55 :)) 03:54:23 -!- reprore [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58:14 wow I feel so worthless, I can't even get the file to load 03:58:17 scheibo [~scheibo@129-97-249-119.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 03:58:33 well, what directory did you run SML in? 03:59:07 -!- scheibo [~scheibo@129-97-249-119.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 03:59:10 c:\sml 03:59:34 and what directory is your source file in? 04:00:03 c:\sml and I also stuck one in c:\sml\src and c:\sml\lib cause I wasn't sure if it used those directories 04:00:09 -!- sikilpaake [~carlos@189.146.177.211] has left #scheme 04:00:22 so if your source file is in C:\sml, and you type: use "foo.sml"; 04:00:24 what do you get? 04:01:07 [use failed: Io: openIn failed on "cc.sml", Win32TextPrimIO:openRd: failed] 04:01:28 is your file called cc.sml? 04:01:33 yep 04:01:37 Gee, this place looks different. It seems to have been redecorated while I wasn't looking. 04:01:43 In fact, it looks just like #sml! 04:02:11 chandler: :P yeah 04:02:19 well, that person /is/ translating a scheme program to SML... 04:02:26 but this discussion used to be happening in #sml, even 04:02:45 It looks like it's wandered off into other territory, though. 04:03:13 it has, yes 04:03:17 *elly* prods Maxels back into #sml 04:03:24 alright 04:03:44 (in which much the same set of people will help you... but it's the principle of the thing :P) 04:03:57 yeah I know 04:04:04 chandler: how goes? 04:04:21 About the best that can be said is "eh". 04:04:47 oO? do tell? 04:05:07 Maxels: may the schwartz be with you 04:05:12 It's mostly to do with work stuff and a giant headache. 04:05:51 *elly* is on glorious spring break right now :) 04:06:15 : is on work-until-i-die now 04:07:49 I need a job that's less stressful but still pays as well. 04:08:47 -!- TR2N [email@89.180.182.42] has left #scheme 04:08:54 Maxel_ [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:09:04 hi Maxel 04:09:08 hi Maxel* 04:09:30 hello, i don't know why that computer keeps getting disconnected 04:09:38 maybe it thinks I'm cloning or something 04:10:47 Maxel, find me a more relaxing job with equal or greater pay. 04:11:36 I am trying to find a job myself.... was just offered an internship but it only pays $10/hr which has to be about the least an IT position can possibly pay 04:11:54 that's better than taco bell 04:12:00 I guess so 04:12:04 although they are hiring managers at 50k 04:12:32 -!- Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:13:25 I need to make some tea 04:14:26 *elly* got hired not very long ago :) 04:14:31 where at? 04:14:37 google boston 04:15:08 the department store? 04:15:16 what? :P 04:15:20 no, Google's boston office 04:15:37 ah ha, nice 04:15:55 do you still bring your dog to work, or is it true that they cut out all nice job benefits? 04:16:14 I don't have a dog :P and I don't work there yet 04:16:15 and the denver office was the only nice one? 04:16:20 I am finishing my last semester of undergrad :P 04:16:29 you got hired and you dont have a phd?!? 04:16:54 ...no? 04:17:11 I am just finishing undergrad, like I said :P 04:17:14 as a CS person? 04:17:17 yes 04:17:20 nice 04:17:41 well, i hope it blows less than my last 3 jobs 04:17:45 I'm almost done with my cs undergrad, except I feel like I am barely scraping by, I can't code at all 04:18:05 Maxel that's common 04:18:12 do you never code in your spare time? 04:18:14 yikes :P 04:18:21 I think I got hired largely because I'm a pretty good hacker 04:18:22 I'm way too busy to have free time 04:18:37 good hacker? 04:18:42 yeah 04:18:45 busy doing non-cs stuff? 04:18:50 no? 04:19:01 well I work 30+ hours in addition to school and I'm involved in a lot of non cs stuff 04:19:17 i think i might know why you are struggling.... 04:19:55 its stressful 04:20:03 yeah, it is 04:20:07 it doesn't help with my drinking much, let me tell you 04:20:17 *elly* doesn't drink :P 04:20:38 that'll save you lots of money 04:20:45 yes it will 04:21:00 or buy cheap vodka 04:21:13 I survive on PBR and point 04:21:40 hah point 04:21:41 I think I got hired largely by being the second person on this page: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~410/staff.html 04:21:47 (namely a TA for our OS class) 04:23:15 nice elly, I'm glad your the kind of programmer with no beard 04:23:20 you're :( 04:24:09 KatieHuber [~katie@cmiller.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #scheme 04:24:09 I know quite a few programmers without beards :P 04:24:54 I don't have one, but I'm also hardly a programmer 04:25:13 yeah, but it'd be even worse for you if you had one 04:25:14 incubot how many beards must a man grow before he can be called a programmer? 04:25:22 a giant one like guy #1 on that page 04:25:26 nearly all the programmers on that page do not have beards :P 04:25:29 yeah, he is the professor 04:25:32 he has a Unix Hacker Beard 04:25:37 incubot: how many beards must a man grow before he can be called a programmer? 04:25:39 hah :) 04:25:41 beh when did biker freaks with nasty beards take up giggling? 04:25:52 giggling? 04:27:11 elly, you work with RMS? 04:27:18 no :P 04:27:29 Eckhardt looks a bit like him, though! 04:27:42 "a bit" 04:28:53 the police guy from batman 1? 04:29:37 i'm out, later 04:29:41 -!- Owner_ [~chatzilla@cpe-174-102-198-0.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 04:32:41 DekuDekuplex [~DekuDekup@p4003-ipbf1005marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 04:38:55 Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:43:01 -!- Maxel_ [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:49:55 also, elly how are you already on spring break? when did you start school this semester? 04:50:19 january 10th or so 04:52:55 Len_ [~Len@77.126.203.252] has joined #scheme 04:54:41 Maxel: 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22:34:30 Bring in a pet goat. 22:34:34 failgrading 22:34:40 elly: just give them all the same grade 22:35:00 copumpkin: :P I don't think my professor would appreciate that 22:35:02 Heh, and only reevaluate upon complaint? 22:35:04 pff 22:35:22 do it the haskell way and give them grades that say "email me if you want your grade" 22:35:32 if it were me receiving the grade, I wouldn't email 22:35:34 so it'll save you work 22:35:55 haha :P 22:36:15 I guess your prof would eventually force the entire map though :( 22:36:26 when (s)he needs to submit the final grade sheet 22:36:39 yep 22:36:44 so no time is saved, overall 22:36:45 Only if she/he/it/vir/they had nothing better to do, copumpkin! 22:36:51 lol 22:36:57 although if some students drop... :) 22:36:57 *Daemmerung* has a grating personality 22:37:08 elly, that could be encouraged behaviour! 22:37:09 *copumpkin* rubs some cheese on Daemmerung's personality 22:37:13 Save yourself a lot of work that way. 22:37:25 gnomon: it sort of is... we started the semester with 95 students, and now have 58 :) 22:37:29 "Email me for your grade, or [click here] to drop the course" 22:37:36 *Daemmerung* diffracts some Parmigiano 22:37:42 om nom 22:37:47 Respond to this email to not not avoid having not dropped this course. 22:37:47 Oooh 22:37:52 I want your cheese, Daemmerung. 22:37:57 *copumpkin* misses cheap cheese 22:37:58 NOOOOOO 22:38:18 THEY BE STEALIN MY PARMIGIANO 22:38:26 *copumpkin* OMNOMS IT ALL 22:38:33 elly, seek out your grade in a condemned building, in the sub-basement, in a disused lavatory behind the sign that reads "beware of leopard". 22:38:50 gnomon: most of them would get it, I think :) 22:39:10 doelie [~tom@cust-133-7-109-94.dyn.as47377.net] has joined #scheme 22:39:12 copumpkin, quoth a friend of mine, "I miss you every day; ammunition is cheap but good scopes are still hard to find". 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