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What are you using? 00:33:43 bweaver, #lang planet plai/plai:1:=6 00:34:00 bipt [bpt@cpe-075-182-095-009.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 00:34:05 using define-type for my object 00:34:39 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A92EB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34:43 rickmode [~rickmode@cpe-76-167-41-163.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 00:35:20 josephholsten [~josephhol@wsip-70-184-255-242.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 00:36:17 zmanning: Sorry, I don't have much experience with PLT. 00:38:15 ah bummer, bweaver. thanks anyways! 00:38:56 zmanning: What do you mean by "compare type?" 00:39:17 -!- josephholsten [~josephhol@wsip-70-184-255-242.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:42:12 -!- masm [~masm@bl10-6-247.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:44:08 -!- etpace [~johndoe@etpace.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:45:05 arcfide, well I have a parent object created using define-type. this has 3 implementations. I would like to compare both objects to see if their implementation types match up 00:45:13 ill pastebin some code, one sec 00:45:47 Ahh, this must be a particular PLT-ism. You're not using define-record or define-record-type, right? I'm afraid i don't know specifically abou thow define-type works. 00:46:07 Unless it's like tagged list types from SICP. 00:46:17 arcfide: It seems to be the plai/plai.plt planet package 00:46:18 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/yaam8oz 00:46:43 -!- rickmode [~rickmode@cpe-76-167-41-163.socal.res.rr.com] has left #scheme 00:46:44 Dunno if that helps, though ;-) 00:48:42 arcfide, http://pastebin.com/ZBjQVEti 00:48:54 arcfide, ah no worries. ill keep my head in the docs :) 00:49:08 bweaver, yeah ill keep trying to find it 00:49:17 i have a workaround with type-case but its ugly :( 00:49:35 really i just need to extract a type from the object 00:49:47 etpace [~johndoe@etpace.eu] has joined #scheme 01:04:17 markatto [~markatto@76.226.18.45] has joined #scheme 01:08:38 -!- rogue [rogue@unaffiliated/rogue] has left #scheme 01:12:52 bokr [~eduska@95.154.102.124] has joined #scheme 01:37:17 -!- arcfide [arcfide@adsl-99-14-211-89.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37:30 arcfide [arcfide@adsl-99-14-211-89.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:39:40 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@202.124.73.239] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:56 mbohun [~mbohun@202.124.73.239] has joined #scheme 01:43:54 cartmansp [~db6ef68f@gateway/web/freenode/x-sgjangnfswrkhnae] has joined #scheme 01:45:48 -!- rdd [~user@c83-250-52-182.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:47:24 -!- mario-goulart [~user@67.205.85.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59:19 -!- saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:00:10 -!- mejja [~user@c-52b1e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:04 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 02:05:37 -!- Kusanagi [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:07:42 -!- arcfide [arcfide@adsl-99-14-211-89.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:08 arcfide [arcfide@adsl-99-14-211-89.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 02:13:59 -!- saccade_ [~saccade@dhcp-18-111-68-179.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:23:58 ribbs [~ribbs@p024062.doubleroute.jp] has joined #scheme 02:25:39 hosh_office [~hosh@c-24-126-188-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:28:49 -!- Fabse [~mightyfid@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has quit [] 02:31:08 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:33:42 -!- foof [~user@118-021-204-067.jp.fiberbit.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:33:46 Kusanagi [~Lernaean@24-107-60-232.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 02:33:46 -!- Kusanagi [~Lernaean@24-107-60-232.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 02:33:46 Kusanagi [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 02:34:03 -!- seangrov` [~user@adsl-99-185-247-101.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:44:48 -!- acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-192.gmavt.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:51:04 -!- bipt [bpt@cpe-075-182-095-009.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:55:01 -!- zmanning [~zmanning@131.252.142.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:57:29 markatto1 [~markatto@76.226.210.78] has joined #scheme 02:58:01 -!- markatto [~markatto@76.226.18.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:00:07 jonrafkind [~jon@c-98-202-82-46.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:02:19 bipt [bpt@cpe-075-182-095-009.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:07:27 -!- markatto1 is now known as markatto 03:08:32 Mr_Awesome [~eric@c-98-212-139-181.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:09:21 -!- markatto [~markatto@76.226.210.78] has left #scheme 03:10:16 samth [~samth@c-65-96-168-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:11:35 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-33-192.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 03:17:41 -!- proq [~user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:18:47 omg 03:18:54 guys, I need transcript-on and -off 03:19:19 right kilimanjaro ? 03:19:34 What? 03:19:52 you know, the Scheme procs, "transcript-on" and "transcript-off"? 03:20:33 Ohh 03:20:40 What does that have to do with me? 03:20:52 Well, you can verify that there is indeed a need for them now 03:21:05 Since you're a Scheme old-timer and all 03:21:15 Is the need that you are going to print out all your REPL transcripts? 03:21:30 yes 03:21:58 You could just do that from emacs, anyways. I'm not sure why you need to actually use those procedures 03:24:29 kilimanjaro: Fine, don't be controversial. 03:24:56 I think Haskell is better than Scheme because it has a stronger reddit presence. 03:25:40 haha 03:26:21 Also it is better looking, shares my interest in music, and knows how to make me laugh. 03:29:30 kilimanjaro: But in the scheme of things, you don't really actually like haskell, right? 03:30:38 I like Haskell 03:31:20 kilimanjaro: I made a subtle joke 03:31:35 That's a half truth 03:31:39 it certainly was a joke 03:32:27 Yes certainly. 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But ok in that case it's not (not(= .. 07:12:49 thanks 07:15:03 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:17:27 whois semka 07:17:30 sorry 07:19:26 copumpkin [~copumpkin@c-75-69-96-50.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:25:58 hkBst [~hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 07:30:12 path[l]: It is helpful to remember that Scheme doesn't really have "operators" in the same sense that other languages have. You can just define your own !=. 07:31:07 yeah I realise I can. 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[~BlueSilve@cpe-71-74-77-119.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:38:11 question, is there any general purpose editors that can be used for other languages that is similar to drscheme? 13:39:53 -!- samth [~samth@c-65-96-168-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:42:18 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:44:09 hosh_office [~hosh@c-24-126-188-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:44:12 -!- hkBst [~hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:49 hkBst [~hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 13:46:59 bweaver [~user@c-68-60-0-190.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:51:31 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:54:50 BlueSilver39: emacs is fairly drscheme-like, or vice versa 13:55:05 sloyd, so you say :P 13:59:48 -!- hkBst [~hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:05 Jafet 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That thread is like flypaper for idiots. 15:02:47 Daemmerung, :) 15:02:58 And here I wasn' 15:03:21 t goin to return to the thread. daamn you sjamaan 15:05:11 i hate it when i hit the enter key when i'm trying to type an apostrophe 15:05:31 if only we wrote irc in sexps 15:05:58 you beat me to it 15:06:02 psshh, sexps? fexps are the new hotness 15:06:23 if only i didn't write on irc minutes after rising with a cat attacking my feet 15:06:37 *Adamant* puts on a helmet and jumps in the nearest empty foxhole 15:09:58 Blkt [~user@93-33-141-210.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 15:14:12 mbishop_ [~martin@adsl-222-17-105.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 15:17:13 -!- mbishop [~martin@adsl-222-54-160.msy.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:21:36 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 15:26:11 zmanning [~zmanning@64.122.14.80] has joined #scheme 15:27:49 user90210 [~diana@host158.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #scheme 15:28:31 I want to determine the evaluation time for a function - is there anything other than "time" for this? 15:29:13 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.26.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:29:23 incubot: but why can't WG1 "grow" the language down with something like syntantical combinators, it can be semantically hidden from WG2 language. why live in a hypocrisy if reality of implementations is that hygienic syntax-rules are built on top of unhygienic constructs... anyway(tm). 15:29:24 Error: unbound variable: but 15:29:28 parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #scheme 15:29:57 user90210: even TIME is not r5rs... dig deeper into your scheme's docs, perhaps they have an index. 15:30:32 incubot: (! butts) 15:30:32 Error: unbound variable: butts 15:31:59 I did search before logging here, obviously :) 15:32:30 user90210: you aren't happy with your implementations' implementation of TIME? 15:32:54 Not obviously. If you did, then you noticed that it isn't standard. And you haven't yet named your impl. 15:33:17 -!- user90210 [~diana@host158.natpool.mwn.de] has left #scheme 15:33:20 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34:40 -!- nullpo [~nullpo@221x252x46x83.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:35:15 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:36:17 parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has joined #scheme 15:38:38 reprore [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 15:44:26 -!- parolang [~user@8e4a01246100775874c4f448e9887093.oregonrd-wifi-1261.amplex.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51:37 -!- bokr [~eduska@95.154.102.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:54:40 -!- BlueSilver39 [~BlueSilve@cpe-71-74-77-119.insight.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:56:19 alvatar [~alvatar@112.126.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 15:57:10 sstrickl [~sstrickl@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:04:56 -!- karme [~user@static.180.75.40.188.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:58 -!- perdix [~perdix@sxemacs/devel/perdix] has quit [Quit: A cow. 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Guess I'll have to rewrite it a bit, then. 17:28:40 what is the stack for ? 17:29:03 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:29:32 It's a list of visited nodes, so I want to not append nodes to my queue if they have already been visited (breadth first search) 17:32:00 Syntropy|Laptop [~who@unaffiliated/syntropy] has joined #scheme 17:33:35 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 17:33:49 -!- Syntropy|Laptop [~who@unaffiliated/syntropy] has left #scheme 17:35:14 so regardless of whether `(assoc neighbour S)' answers yea or nay, you want to do a recursive call (in case of non-empty tail) 17:37:53 -!- Blkt [~user@93-33-141-210.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38:37 Bah, I completely overlooked that. 17:38:39 Thanks. 17:39:28 btw, it is bad to repeatedly add stuff to the end of a list 17:39:57 I'm not sure how to do it otherwise. 17:40:15 either add at the beginning, in the correct order; or add at the beginning, in the reverse order, and do a final reversal at the end 17:40:42 Any reason? The course I'm taking doesn't really seem to care about that. 17:41:17 adding an element `n' times to the end of a list has complexity `O(n^2)' 17:41:28 Ah 17:41:48 adding at beginningm (with or without final reversal) pushes that down to the expected `O(n)' 17:42:54 Ah, ok. Thanks. 17:46:26 josephholsten [~josephhol@ip70-189-108-199.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 17:49:14 Yay! It works. 17:49:26 Now, I just have to figure out why the BFS doesn't work >_> 17:55:27 -!- path[l] [~path@122.167.245.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:56:31 -!- reprore [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59:43 reprore [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:01:30 -!- reprore [~reprore@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:59 bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 18:07:21 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Quit: Adamant] 18:09:00 saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:11:38 -!- pbusser [~pbusser@ip138-238-174-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:32:10 -!- zmanning [~zmanning@64.122.14.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:38:30 c 18:38:43 -!- hiyuh [~hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: |_ e /\ \/ i |/| G] 18:40:02 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:34 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 18:41:48 attila_lendvai_ [~ati@catv-89-134-66-143.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 18:43:10 -!- attila_lendvai [~ati@catv-89-134-66-143.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:44:51 -!- attila_lendvai_ is now known as attila_lendvai 18:52:09 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Quit: +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++] 18:58:33 Skewb [~Skewb@83.231.91.158] has joined #scheme 18:59:53 Hi. 19:00:37 Anyone knows if there any papers or information on constant folding optimizations in Scheme compilers? 19:01:48 I would like to be able to turn this: 19:01:49 (define (some_recursive_function) 19:01:49 ... 19:01:49 (+ 20 30) 19:01:49 ...) 19:01:58 into this: 19:02:01 (define (some_recursive_function) 19:02:02 ... 19:02:02 50 19:02:02 ...) 19:02:16 at compile time, so the expression only evaluates once 19:02:19 waddel's thesis covers some of that 19:02:26 the problem is how to distinguish that (+ 20 30) application 19:02:40 from something that isn't an application, for example: (quote (+ 20 30)) 19:03:10 ah, good, i'll google it 19:06:01 rdd` [~user@c83-250-52-182.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 19:07:47 -!- saccade_ [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:07:58 -!- postlogic [~michaekt@archlinux/user/postlogic] has left #scheme 19:09:44 -!- mreggen [~mreggen@cm-84.215.18.49.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:13:09 -!- rdd` is now known as rdd 19:22:46 Skewb, you need to expand the program first - then you'll know where the expressions are 19:22:47 zmanning [~zmanning@host-247-48.pubnet.pdx.edu] has joined #scheme 19:23:16 karme [~user@static.180.75.40.188.clients.your-server.de] has joined #scheme 19:23:39 path[l] [~path@122.167.244.232] has joined #scheme 19:24:41 hi! 19:25:18 is there a procedure for checking if all members in a list satisfy a predicate? 19:25:30 in r5rs or a srfi 19:25:51 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:04 alvatar: Check SRFI-1 19:26:16 ok! 19:26:25 andmap ? 19:26:50 for-all ? 19:26:52 alvatar, `every' from SRFI 1 19:26:55 yeah, every 19:27:01 thanks! 19:27:06 -!- Kusanagi [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:27:16 or `for-all' from R6 19:28:10 -!- arcfide [arcfide@adsl-99-14-211-89.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has left #scheme 19:28:37 and for comparing two lists? 19:29:17 I was using equal? but the lists are of inexact numbers, so they need a (> (- a b)) predicate 19:29:29 (> (- a b) precision) 19:29:56 comparing two lists at the same time 19:30:35 I was thinking of building a new list with ZIP+ 19:30:40 zip 19:31:13 and then each element of that new list can be checked with every 19:31:21 with EVERY 19:31:40 why zip? 19:32:18 btw for-all accepts one or more lists 19:32:22 zip builds a new list with the elements in the two lists to compare 19:32:32 hum... but I'm using r5rs gambit :) 19:32:40 ok :) 19:32:49 "any" from srfi-1 might be handy 19:33:09 alvatar: If you have two lists (a ...) and (b ...) and you want (pred? a b) ... you can just do (every pred? list1 list2). 19:33:16 it is the opposite of "every" :) 19:33:32 bweaver: ah, really?? 19:33:40 that's good. I'm going to try 19:33:47 better than zipping first 19:34:03 oh sorry i was missguided how any operates on multiple lists 19:34:21 no - in fact i was right ;-) lol 19:34:38 yeah, I think it works the same way 19:37:12 -!- karme [~user@static.180.75.40.188.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:18 incubot: know any mathical musimatician? 19:37:23 Does anyone know about the design decisions of the PLT object system? 19:37:29 Kusanagi [~Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 19:38:02 incubot: VB .NET? 19:39:23 incubot, see flatt findler and felleisen, ASPLAS 2006 19:39:26 Here you see (from the left) Cormac Flanagan, Robby Findler, and Matthew Flatt combined with the sculpture 45 degrees in the Rice engineering quad. http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~robby/logos/rice-quad-lambda.gif 19:39:46 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:44:06 phao [~phao@189.107.158.82] has joined #scheme 19:50:08 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 19:51:29 -!- Sergio` [~Sergio`@a89-152-187-26.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Changing host] 19:51:29 Sergio` [~Sergio`@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has joined #scheme 19:54:58 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-141-157-238-16.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:59:39 -!- oconnore_ [~oconnore_@c-24-61-119-4.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:38 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@112.126.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:05:44 fnord123_ [~fnord123@94-194-63-222.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 20:07:32 -!- fnord123 [~fnord123@94-194-63-222.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:10:44 Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-141-157-238-16.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 20:25:33 hotblack23 [~jh@p4FC5AB7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:26:51 -!- bipt [bpt@cpe-075-182-095-009.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:27:12 copumpkin [~copumpkin@dhcp-212-226.cs.dartmouth.edu] has joined #scheme 20:30:39 jengle [~9598170a@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfukquhpjxaetfqa] has joined #scheme 20:44:57 -!- bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:56:06 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 21:00:34 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 21:02:38 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@dhcp-212-226.cs.dartmouth.edu] has quit [Quit: copumpkin] 21:09:31 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 21:21:15 vlekkie [~phillip@84-104-203-195.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #scheme 21:21:33 -!- jengle [~9598170a@gateway/web/freenode/x-mfukquhpjxaetfqa] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:26:50 copumpkin [~copumpkin@dhcp-212-226.cs.dartmouth.edu] has joined #scheme 21:26:59 HG` [~HG@xdslav128.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 21:34:15 -!- HG` [~HG@xdslav128.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:34:27 saccade_ [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 21:37:03 -!- saccade_ [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:39:27 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 21:41:15 -!- Edico [~Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:45:30 -!- zmanning [~zmanning@host-247-48.pubnet.pdx.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:46:57 mejja [~user@c-52b1e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 21:48:16 bipt [bpt@cpe-075-182-095-009.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:53:29 Blkt [~user@93-33-132-181.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 21:53:38 -!- perdix [~perdix@sxemacs/devel/perdix] has quit [Quit: A cow. 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That is a very original thought....are you a poet? 22:17:49 amazing, thats the first sentence of my novel 22:17:58 where are thou, sarahbot? 22:21:06 she's in a better place now 22:23:01 schmir [~schmir@p54A93D90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:27:35 -!- kniu [~kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:42:21 kniu [~kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 22:43:21 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A93D90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:06 -!- mbishop_ [~martin@adsl-222-17-105.msy.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:55:39 Are there scheme propositions or implementations of something similar to conditions and restarts in CL? 22:57:42 -!- zmanning [~zmanning@host-249-180.pubnet.pdx.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:59:53 Skewb, isn't that just continuations? 23:01:54 sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-141-157-183-82.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:08:49 mbishop_ [~martin@adsl-222-17-105.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 23:11:05 -!- kniu [~kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:11:44 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@dhcp-212-226.cs.dartmouth.edu] has quit [Quit: copumpkin] 23:16:40 reynard [~alan@n112118252204.netvigator.com] has joined #scheme 23:16:45 Skewb: you mean, beyond what's already in R6RS? 23:25:31 kniu [~kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 23:26:11 didn't read R6RS, sorry 23:26:18 i'm still in R5RS land 23:29:47 -!- mbishop_ is now known as mbishop 23:31:14 foof [~user@118-021-204-067.jp.fiberbit.net] has joined #scheme 23:35:46 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #scheme 23:36:14 bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 23:39:49 -!- hotblack23 [~jh@p4FC5AB7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:39:58 mreggen [~mreggen@cm-84.215.18.49.getinternet.no] has joined #scheme 23:41:24 -!- reynard [~alan@n112118252204.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:46:53 arcfide [arcfide@adsl-99-14-211-89.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:51:05 -!- kniu [~kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:51:34 *mejja* resets --hard 23:54:13 -!- HG` [~HG@xdslav128.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:57:04 -!- fradgers- [~fradgers-@5ad4c06e.bb.sky.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]