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How can I print a 'square' of N values per line? 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I use nested pairs instead of linked lists? 15:16:35 like, (define c (cons (cons (cons 1 2)(cons 3 4)) (cons 5 6))) 15:18:49 You would use nested pairs to represent a tree. Do you understand how a binary tree is used? 15:19:25 yeah, but I could do a binary tree with lists too 15:19:29 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@200.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:19:33 alvatar [~alvatar@200.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 15:20:22 or are there some performance difference here maybe? 15:21:09 I'm not sure what you mean by "a binary tree with lists". 15:22:24 If you mean repesenting each node in the tree as a list of two elements, the only real difference is that your tree will consume half again as much space as an equivalent tree represented with pairs. 15:22:49 You could also represent the tree with pears, in which case it will be infinitely tastier. 15:23:03 :) 15:23:49 I think that answers the question 15:24:46 so binary tree represented with pairs are indeed more performant 15:26:45 luz [~davids@139.82.89.70] has joined #scheme 15:32:48 -!- mornfall [~mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:33:05 mornfall [~mornfall@anna.fi.muni.cz] has joined #scheme 15:33:07 -!- mornfall [~mornfall@anna.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Changing host] 15:33:07 mornfall [~mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #scheme 15:43:07 lusory [~bart@bb219-74-102-199.singnet.com.sg] has joined #scheme 15:43:58 -!- xwl [~user@123.115.124.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:48:38 -!- morphir [~morphir@84-52-234.12.3p.ntebredband.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:49:56 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51:06 -!- Mikaeel_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@129-97-241-175.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:51:20 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:54:03 morphir [~morphir@84-52-234.12.3p.ntebredband.no] has joined #scheme 15:56:05 sstrickl [~sstrickl@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 15:56:28 annodomini [~lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:56:28 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:56:28 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 15:57:21 -!- AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable049.173-176-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: foobar] 16:04:03 hm, pear tree. 16:04:09 -!- elly has set mode -o elly 16:04:41 bzzbzz [~franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 16:05:39 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 16:06:59 rudybot: eval (cons 'turtle-dove 'turtle-dove) 16:07:01 Daemmerung: your r5rs sandbox is ready 16:07:01 Daemmerung: ; Value: {turtle-dove . turtle-dove} 16:09:54 -!- mmc [~mima@esprx01x.nokia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:23:19 rudybot: eval (cons 'flotz 'flotz) 16:23:20 *offby1: ; Value: (flotz . flotz) 16:24:30 morphir: another, slightly sillier, reason to use pairs is: if you happen to have some data structure that naturally has two pieces, a cons cell is a natural fit. 16:24:59 (actually, you could view that as the _only_ reason, and you could view a binary tree as a special case of it) 16:25:48 bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 16:29:00 A miniature vector. A Hallowe'en-candy "fun-sized" vector with just two tasty value cells. 16:34:48 yep 16:44:24 Fare [~Fare@c-24-218-127-11.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:50:05 Or even to represent a list. 16:54:17 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@200.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:05 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-222.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:31 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-222.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 16:57:13 offby1: so a pair.. is really: a 'cons cell'.. heh. I never thought of it that wahy 16:57:17 way 16:57:35 alvatar [~alvatar@53.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 16:58:43 Sveklo [~sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 16:58:56 yeah, see, I have had a hard time accepting pairs as anything but a 'primitive list' or 'a-non-linked-list' 17:00:11 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 17:00:12 R5RS 6.3.2 is admirably succinct on the topic. 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Now he need never la again. 17:55:04 sepult` [~user@xdsl-78-35-204-186.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:56:14 and apparently, he hasn't 17:56:55 -!- sepult [~user@xdsl-87-78-27-110.netcologne.de] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by sepult`!~user@xdsl-78-35-204-186.netcologne.de))] 17:57:14 -!- sepult` is now known as sepult 17:57:16 You could also have rudybot generate jcowan's characteristic catch-phrase. 17:57:41 "Ittywhonk"? 17:57:55 "It's clobbering time!" 17:58:39 "Any of you @#%(&*ers move and I'll execute every @#%(&*ing last one of you!" ? 17:58:58 heh 17:59:13 *Daemmerung* cues up "Misirlou" 17:59:19 don't be nervous next time! 18:00:36 bytecolor [~user@adsl-71-137-193-55.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 18:02:58 -!- mario-goulart [~user@67.205.85.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:41 automejja [~edwin@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 18:07:08 -!- bytecolor 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I'm going through SICP, working on 1.45 at the moment, and having some issues. I've posted my code here: http://pastebin.com/d65f2aea8 -- if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be most grateful. 22:31:24 Oladon: Do you actually have a question or are you just looking for code critique? 22:31:31 If I remember correctly repeated should be a function.. 22:31:35 sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-151-203-30-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:31:46 -!- Daemmeru` is now known as Daemmerung 22:32:04 Sorry kencausey, I apparently neglected my question in all that. The code produces incorrect results :P 22:32:32 Also the best paste site for this channel is in the /topic : http://paste.lisp.org/new/scheme 22:32:46 Ah, noted. 22:33:12 Are you using DrScheme? Have you tried stepping through it if so? 22:33:29 I'm using mit-scheme. 22:33:33 via emacs 22:34:28 If you are just learning, I suggest you would be better off with PLT Scheme 22:35:41 sah0s [~anto@92.251.172.194.threembb.ie] has joined #scheme 22:35:52 Sergio`_ [~Sergio`@a89-152-186-152.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #scheme 22:37:29 -!- Sergio` [~Sergio`@a89-152-186-152.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:37:54 At the moment I'm doing quite well with mit-scheme and enjoying the book, thanks. 22:38:23 MIT Scheme is fine for your purposes. 22:38:28 The fact that my code does not work properly is, admittedly, a small drawback. :) 22:38:56 What are you observing? 22:39:35 Well, for example, there's the fact that my nth-root procedure believes the 5th root of 32 to be 2.8804315666156364. 22:39:48 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 22:40:07 From where did you determine that n repetitions would suffice for an nth root? 22:40:50 I didn't, I'm merely experimenting as the exercise suggests. Which is where we come to another issue -- the number of repetitions that I set does not seem to change anything. 22:47:21 Is (repeated (average-damp some-function) 2) the same as (average-damp (average-damp some-function))? 22:48:46 It should be, yes... repeated is basically f(f(...(f(x))...)) 22:48:57 Should be, yes. But is it? 22:49:35 It works for the test case of ((repeated square 2) 5)... I'll paste my code for it. 22:51:01 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A904AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:51:11 Oladon pasted "repeated" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/94323 22:53:36 -!- Mikaeel_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@129-97-22-222.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:55:19 -!- choas [~lars@p5B0DC21B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:55:53 AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable049.173-176-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 22:57:47 shouldn't that be `(compose f foo)` 22:57:59 copumpkin [~copumpkin@dhcp-212-228.cs.dartmouth.edu] has joined #scheme 23:01:07 Hrm. 23:01:25 There is a lesson about testing in this.... 23:02:37 It is not my first, unfortunately. 23:03:24 the lesson is: test for 3 different inputs 23:03:25 aack [~user@194-106.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #scheme 23:03:39 Indeed... 23:04:09 Thanks, both of you. :) 23:04:20 Happy trails. 23:04:39 I feel like I've just commited some bizarre crime of oppurtunity 23:04:56 Heh. 23:07:11 At least my other code was right. :P 23:09:26 Modius [~Modius@cpe-70-123-130-159.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:10:22 Isn't the topic eaten up a little at the end? (map surf-to (append meta-l$ 23:10:22 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-151-203-30-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10:24 that's it. 23:11:07 Mikaeel_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@129-97-241-175.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 23:11:48 Or is it just my IRC client? 23:12:11 Mine displays the same. 23:14:23 Yes the topic is truncated. New server has a TOPICLEN limit of 390 23:14:43 mbohun [~mbohun@202.124.72.51] has joined #scheme 23:14:53 Yeah, I thought that would be a new freenode-ircd related problem. 23:15:35 80 characters should be enough for anybody. 23:16:02 rudybot: eval (* 24 80) 23:16:02 Daemmerung: ; Value: 1920 23:16:09 Okay, 1920 characters. 23:17:52 Our channel operators are lazy 23:18:10 drwho [~d@c-98-225-208-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:18:42 Sitting around wearing their fancy @-hats and drinking cocktails while the hardworking masses subsist on truncated topics and gruel. 23:19:24 Exactly! 23:19:25 sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-151-203-30-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:19:57 -!- Mikaeel_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@129-97-241-175.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:20:15 -!- Oladon [~ITSC@cc-nat.NCTU.edu.tw] has left #scheme 23:20:21 Oladon [~ITSC@cc-nat.NCTU.edu.tw] has joined #scheme 23:26:18 ente [~ente@unaffiliated/n0nsense] has joined #scheme 23:26:23 I love s-expressions 23:26:32 :> 23:27:58 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 23:34:25 masm [~masm@bl10-4-229.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 23:34:25 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-151-203-30-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:13 incubot: but ask not what s-expressions can do for you, but what you can do for s-expressions! 23:35:17 I'm an encoding junkie. the encoding isn't what worries me 23:35:41 davazp [~user@76.Red-88-25-186.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 23:41:20 funkenblatt [~user@adsl-69-238-246-201.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 23:42:18 No wonder none of Google's 4 officially languages is functional: their Closure compiler just uttered "/home/masm/output.js:84: WARNING - Suspicious code. This code lacks side-effects. Is there a bug?" 23:42:55 I take it that Closure is not the same as Clojure, or Clozure? Gaaaaaah 23:43:30 *Daemmerung* reserves CloXure for his next vaporlanguage 23:43:31 A Javascript to javascript compiler (optimizer) 23:44:25 sstrickl [~sstrickl@pool-151-203-30-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:46:08 -!- Sveklo [~sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:35 -!- ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54:12 ASau [~user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 23:59:51 Clozhure ? Clogiure ? Cloyure ? Cloture?