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It's not just a list... 02:32:19 (apply (list ...)) 02:32:28 synx: yes. but I dont need this. 02:33:04 just do ( ...) and that will be like (apply (list ...)) 02:33:15 a bit more efficient maybe. 02:33:18 synx: ok sorry. i just realized how stupid my question was ^^ 02:33:47 no problem. 02:33:50 synx: its late ... i got a bit confused ... normally I am programming in cl which is lisp-2 and needs "funcall", but of course in scheme its useless. 02:33:54 funcall is one of the reasons I avoid CL <.< 02:34:01 I don't like needing funcall. 02:34:14 mostly it's for the lexical context though. 02:34:19 hm. well. thats a matter of taste. 02:34:56 the reason for me using cl for my private stuff is that the standard is comparably stable, and that I simply got used to it. I like scheme, too. 02:36:04 *synx* hasn't had the pleasure to get used to CL. 02:36:36 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:36:57 I just think that (let ((a 42)) (let ((a 43)) (set! a 23)) a) should result in 42. It's easier to understand that way. 02:37:29 -!- sstrickl [n=sstrickl@pool-151-199-60-206.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:37:40 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw356150.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 02:37:43 sstrickl [n=sstrickl@pool-151-199-60-206.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:38:02 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_%28programming%29#Example_2 02:38:40 synx: it returns 42 under sbcl ... 02:38:56 synx: (let ((a 42)) (let ((a 43)) (setf a 23)) a) => 42 02:39:12 schoppenhauer: huh, I thought sbcl had dynamic scope. 02:39:30 synx: hm ... i thought it had lexical scopes. 02:39:33 -!- mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:39:51 if so, then that's one less difference between CL and scheme! 02:40:12 actually, isnt the only "modern" lisp which hasnt them emacs lisp? 02:40:26 yo, scheme and cl are not that different ... as far as I see. 02:42:41 and cl is bloated ... while scheme is ... too small - or ... actually, when looking at the standards, I sometimes tend to think that in scheme, they specified the wrong things, leaving the wrong things open to the implementations. 02:44:39 hm... 02:45:12 like complex numbers. i mean they are a nice thing to have, but its easy to implement them manually. 02:45:22 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw356150.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:45:27 I would tend to agree with you schoppenhauer, especially considering the fiasco the R6RS was. 02:45:57 well. I guess nothing is perfect. 02:46:32 -!- sjamaan [n=sjamaan@netbsd/developer/sjamaan] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:46:33 lisp comes close 02:46:44 indeed. 02:46:45 -!- MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@users-55-183.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:47:02 hm. since its 3:46 here, and I have to get up at 9 ... good night and thank you. 02:47:10 good night! 02:47:27 -!- schoppenhauer [n=christop@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit [] 02:48:41 sjamaan [n=sjamaan@frohike.xs4all.nl] has joined #scheme 02:50:05 -!- sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-28-112.netcologne.de] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 03:06:29 nullpo [n=nullpo@221x252x46x83.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 03:27:41 -!- bgs100 [n=ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:34:13 Foofie [n=innocent@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 03:35:45 -!- SethTisue [n=tisue@c-66-30-112-62.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #scheme 03:52:31 tjafk [n=timj@e176217007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 03:52:43 -!- Fufie [n=innocent@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:53:57 -!- TR2N` is now known as TR2N 03:59:26 -!- Overdrive [n=user@81.202.74.13.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:08:47 -!- tjaway [n=timj@e176198178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:20:12 jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 04:21:41 jdijk [i=jdijk@ftth-212-84-159-210.solcon.nl] has joined #scheme 04:22:13 -!- jdijk [i=jdijk@ftth-212-84-159-210.solcon.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 04:22:18 jdijk [i=jdijk@ftth-212-84-159-210.solcon.nl] has joined #scheme 04:22:37 -!- jdijk [i=jdijk@ftth-212-84-159-210.solcon.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 04:23:26 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:27:23 -!- bokr [n=eduska@95.154.102.124] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:28:42 huffingtonz [n=andrey@129.63.226.42] has joined #scheme 04:47:15 dmoerner_ [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 04:49:19 bokr [n=eduska@95.154.102.124] has joined #scheme 05:07:21 sstrickl_ [n=sstrickl@pool-151-199-60-206.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:09:05 -!- dmoerner_ [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:12:21 -!- sstrickl [n=sstrickl@pool-151-199-60-206.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:12:22 -!- sstrickl_ is now known as sstrickl 05:21:34 dmoerner_ [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 05:22:06 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:22:09 -!- dmoerner_ is now known as dmoerner 05:22:28 dmoerner_ [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 05:51:39 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:51:42 -!- dmoerner_ [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:52:00 dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 06:02:27 xwl [n=user@123.115.110.193] has joined #scheme 06:37:53 -!- araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:44:14 in PLT how do you change a lambda's representation to be a certain named procedure? 06:45:43 saint_cypher [n=saint_cy@c-24-5-80-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:45:48 oh, procedure-rename 06:59:53 rudybot: doc procedure-rename 06:59:54 *offby1: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference/procedures.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._procedure-rename)) 06:59:56 never heard of it 07:00:22 jgracin [n=jgracin@vipnet213-86.mobile.carnet.hr] has joined #scheme 07:05:38 -!- brandelune [n=suzume@pl807.nas982.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [] 07:18:49 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:19:10 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 07:21:47 useful for debugging 07:22:49 Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 07:23:01 if you have like (define (something) (lambda (lambda (lambda somethingelse ...)))) you can wrap the lambdas in (procedure-rename ... 'something) so what procedure the 'something procedure returns is still called 'something. 07:23:13 or better yet called whatever the purpose of that lambda is for. Or an internal define statement... 07:29:41 Jafet1 [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 07:43:08 oog... my brain is leaking out my ears but I think I am starting to get it... 07:43:30 https://synx.us.to/code/scheme/saver/main.ss 07:43:52 It became clearer when I realized that a saver and a filter are not the same thing. It's sort of the same strategy that gstreamer applies... 07:45:21 https://synx.us.to/code/scheme/saver/encryption.ss 07:46:09 one demonstration of the strategy. 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11:04:50 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:06:20 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 11:11:40 -!- antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit ["+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++"] 11:19:43 -!- saint_cypher [n=saint_cy@c-24-5-80-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:19:44 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:22:18 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 11:30:32 hjk [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 11:38:44 using clinger's low level macros, it's easy to *rename* identifiers, but how to *create* identifiers (for temporary binding etc.) ? 11:38:47 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:39:08 (rename 'foo) 11:39:12 -!- foof` is now known as foof 11:40:00 so foo must not be bound at the time of of the define-syntax, if i get that right 11:40:01 -!- yosafbridge [n=yosafbri@li14-39.members.linode.com] has quit ["Coyote finally caught me"] 11:40:11 yosafbridge [n=yosafbri@li14-39.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 11:40:22 Doesn't matter if it is. 11:40:37 ok, thanks. i will meditate over this 11:41:13 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 11:43:14 visof [n=visof@41.238.232.174] has joined #scheme 12:10:57 HG` [n=HG@xdslfa135.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 12:10:58 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:13:39 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 12:15:01 araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 12:17:57 -!- HG` [n=HG@xdslfa135.osnanet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 12:22:30 -!- hjk [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:22:40 masm [n=masm@bl7-206-182.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 12:42:31 -!- rstandy [n=rastandy@net-93-144-139-178.t2.dsl.vodafone.it] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:45:11 visof_ [n=visof@41.238.233.68] has joined #scheme 12:45:52 -!- visof [n=visof@41.238.232.174] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:45:58 -!- visof_ is now known as visof_\ 12:46:02 -!- visof_\ is now known as visof 12:47:29 -!- xwl [n=user@123.115.110.193] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:47:31 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:48:08 hjk [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 12:52:15 bgs100 [n=ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 12:55:54 mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 12:57:44 -!- huffingtonz [n=andrey@129.63.226.42] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:57:56 Jafet1 [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 12:58:16 -!- Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:59:15 -!- Jafet1 is now known as Jafet 13:05:19 jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 13:08:40 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@users-33-243.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:11:51 In PLT, I need a function that given an identifier returns an object such that two objects returns by that function are equal? if and only if the argument identifiers are free-identifier=? . This must work across modules. Any ideas? 13:13:42 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:25:03 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [] 13:27:20 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:27:22 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:29:06 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:29:55 masm: I'm having some difficulty getting my head around the possible use case for this, but my first suggestion is to use a `free-identifier=?' hash to map identifiers to some other kind of object. 13:33:19 elderK [n=zk@125-238-255-127.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 13:36:16 -!- elderK [n=zk@125-238-255-127.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:40:47 elderK [n=zk@125-238-255-127.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 13:41:27 luz [n=davids@189.122.90.116] has joined #scheme 13:43:58 -!- elderK [n=zk@125-238-255-127.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #scheme 13:54:28 a-s [n=user@nat-240.ro.66.com] has joined #scheme 13:55:06 masm1 [n=masm@bl10-6-61.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 13:55:30 -!- masm [n=masm@bl7-206-182.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:00:32 -!- sstrickl [n=sstrickl@pool-151-199-60-206.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 14:01:11 hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B057303.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 14:02:50 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-9-179.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:11:26 -!- a-s [n=user@nat-240.ro.66.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:11:53 chandler: I need to pass that object from compile-time to run-time environment. 14:15:46 chandler: Yep, that would work. 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"." ...)) ring a bell? 21:45:22 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:47:36 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:48:01 mejja, trying to build Scheme with last year's snapshot, rather than this year's? 21:48:17 jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 21:50:24 leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.200.194] has joined #scheme 21:50:36 No. 21:52:35 I'm trying to build a 64 bit LIAR/C 21:54:47 overdrive [n=user@81.202.74.13.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 21:55:36 antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 21:55:36 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:57:25 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:59:25 nullpo [n=nullpo@221x252x46x83.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 21:59:28 Grmble. 21:59:44 Can you tell me precisely what you ran, and in what environment? 22:00:41 arcfide [i=arcfide@adsl-99-31-12-73.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:01:49 Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 22:01:49 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:02:15 make-liarc-dist.sh followed by make-liarc.sh 22:02:25 -!- sstrickl [n=sstrickl@n250-28.mtholyoke.edu] has quit [] 22:02:58 From the current state of Git? 22:03:25 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:03:41 yeah... 22:05:12 Starting with native x86-64? 22:05:26 (Can you give me this information in one dump, so that I don't need to ask twenty questions?) 22:06:57 let's do it the other way around. Can you build LIAR/C on a 64 bit machine starting from native? 22:06:58 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:07:28 That is why I am asking you what environment you were using -- so that I can try to reproduce this. 22:07:46 So, are you starting from native x86-64? 22:07:51 Right. 22:09:54 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:16:07 -!- overdrive [n=user@81.202.74.13.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 22:16:07 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:17:59 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:20:52 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [] 22:20:52 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:22:33 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:25:13 -!- bzzbzz [n=franco@70.83.34.240] has quit ["leaving"] 22:25:14 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:26:07 bzzbzz [n=franco@modemcable240.34-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 22:26:45 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:31:14 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:31:54 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:32:19 -!- brx_ is now known as brx 22:35:49 mejja, try changing (make-eq-hash-table) to (make-strong-eq-hash-table) in star-parser/parser.scm. 22:35:49 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37:22 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:44:46 drwho [n=d@c-98-225-208-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:54:08 sstrickl [n=sstrickl@c-71-192-227-81.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:54:10 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:55:41 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 22:56:36 Perhaps use -O0 during the bootstrapping process? 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