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04:51:34 rudybot: eval (let* ((ntimes (lambda(x y) (if (> x 0) (ntimes (- x 1) (write "scheme")) "aha")))) (ntimes 5 (write "SCHEME"))) 04:51:34 ColonelJ: error: reference to undefined identifier: ntimes 04:52:10 Maybe the output from the previous command which errored wasn't cleared out? 04:52:29 rudybot: eval (letrec ((ntimes (lambda(x y) (if (> x 0) (ntimes (- x 1) (write "scheme")) "aha")))) (ntimes 3 (write "SCHEME"))) 04:52:29 ColonelJ: ; Value: "aha" 04:52:30 ColonelJ: ; stdout: "\"SCHEME\"\"SCHEME\"\"scheme\"\"scheme\"\"scheme\"" 04:52:32 rudybot: eval (letrec ((ntimes (lambda(x y) (if (> x 0) (ntimes (- x 1) (write "scheme")) "aha")))) (ntimes 3 (write "SCHEME"))) 04:52:32 ColonelJ: ; Value: "aha" 04:52:33 ColonelJ: ; stdout: "\"SCHEME\"\"scheme\"\"scheme\"\"scheme\"" 04:52:43 foof: yep 04:54:16 goodnight 04:54:41 -!- ColonelJ [n=cipherja@92.25.169.82] has quit ["Farewell"] 05:00:17 -!- katie11 is now known as caitlyn 05:05:06 -!- samth [n=samth@c-65-96-168-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:14:10 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 05:33:31 Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 05:34:38 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 05:35:29 -!- MononcQc [n=parseido@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["DOWNLOADING LATEST VERSION OF THE INTERNET"] 05:47:49 -!- bgs100 [n=ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:49:47 Jafet1 [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 05:50:10 -!- Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:52:22 -!- SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:54:21 annodomini [n=lambda@pool-141-154-229-166.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:56:41 metropolis [n=jonas@216.18.1.210] has joined #scheme 05:59:11 I'm trying to write a fast interpreter for a scheme-like language with support for concurrency, and i'm curious if there's a sort of "scheme implementors canon" of papers, tech reports, and theses 06:02:01 http://library.readscheme.org/ 06:02:38 i was gonna say that, mejja :p 06:04:09 metropolis: and a book: http://pagesperso-systeme.lip6.fr/Christian.Queinnec/WWW/LiSP.html 06:04:13 oh, fantastic -- what a huge list! any recommendations, esp. on the concurrency-side? 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07:20:54 metropolis: How is termite not SMP-friendly? 07:22:02 foof: i was under the impression that the underlying gamit-C was not actually multithreaded, and thus termite couldn't take advantage of multiple cores. Perhaps I am mistaken? 07:24:04 metropolis: termite is multi-processed - it can not only use multiple CPUs on the same machine, but multiple CPUs distributed across a network 07:24:26 foof: okay, i was pretty wrong then -- I'm going to go read the termite paper 07:28:22 -!- arcfide [i=arcfide@140-182-236-139.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has quit ["ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet?"] 07:30:57 bombshelter13b [n=bombshel@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 07:42:02 -!- ski_ [n=md9slj@remote1.student.chalmers.se] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 07:42:31 -!- caitlyn is now known as k[a]tie 07:45:59 ski_ [n=md9slj@remote1.student.chalmers.se] has joined #scheme 07:49:59 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 07:51:03 saint_cypher_ [n=saint_cy@c-24-5-80-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:53:51 -!- untouchable [i=untoucha@dhcp-129-64-166-32.dorm.brandeis.edu] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )"] 07:58:24 -!- dmoerner_ [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:59:54 elderK [n=zk@125-236-160-147.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 07:59:58 Hey people. 08:02:12 sup dawg 08:03:57 -!- drwho [n=d@c-98-225-208-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:06:53 Anyone here know a decent implementation of Scheme for Windows? 08:07:00 Chicken's giving me some issues. :( 08:07:20 Issues such as? 08:07:56 Doesn't seem to be armed with syntax-rules, so, I'm trying to get the egg that provides it for 3.4.x 08:08:06 which, is proving strangely difficult, since chicken-setup isn't cooperating. 08:10:39 Hm, I thought that syntax-rules was standard in Chicken as of 4.0. But I don't use Chicken. I use Gambit when I need a C-Scheme. 08:11:09 It's standard in 4.x. You need to use one of the hygiene modules in 3.x. 08:11:36 Any of riaxpander, syntactic-closures, syntax-case or alexpander (recommended in that order). 08:12:02 foof, any chance building via Msys will work reasonably well? 08:12:16 and hey, Daemmerung, how's Gambit? 08:12:38 elderK: no idea 08:13:05 elderK: works well on Windows. Less richly endowed with libraries than Chicken. 08:13:34 I use it with the Microsoft compiler suite. No idea about msys. 08:13:35 Daemmerung: Do I have to install it to C:\Program Files\... ? 08:13:40 or am I free to move it somewhere better? 08:13:46 No, you can install it wherever. 08:13:57 Well, Msys is MinGW, so, I'm hoping it'd be okay. 08:14:04 Man, at this point, I'd just be happy to have Guile even! 08:14:14 but even the MSYS port of that falls apart!? 08:14:46 No binary distribution available? 08:15:53 For Guile? 08:15:58 Yeah but it simply won't execute. 08:17:10 My default scheme on Windows is PLT. Prototyping in it now. Binary distribution available. 08:17:28 I'm downloading MzScheme as we speak 08:17:35 along with Gambit, Scheme48. 08:19:02 Gauche too 08:23:28 Daemmerung: I'm mostly just playing around for some fun and such, I intend to use Scheme /seriously/ later, but for now, I'm happy with a decent interpreter that I can shove somewhere handy. 08:23:50 It'd be cool too, if I can turn on a recursion trace? I've seen some implementations that will show you the call depth and stuff. 08:24:05 That was quite useful in making sure my tail calls actually were tail calls :) 08:32:25 elderK: If you're using PLT, you can use the `scheme/trace' library -- the library preserves tail calls, and shows them (the depth doesn't increase). 08:34:48 how's plt with foreign code? 08:35:04 I can't say anything about that... 08:35:10 Heh. 08:35:35 Its FFI is fabulous. 08:35:37 (I who wrote the Scheme-based foreign interface, so anything I say will be redundant.) 08:36:56 http://download.plt-scheme.org/doc/301/html/mzscheme/ 08:36:59 I can't find muhc here. 08:37:21 Try docs.plt-scheme.org 08:37:43 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-100-207-225.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #scheme 08:37:46 aha http://docs.plt-scheme.org/foreign/index.html 08:43:41 -!- kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:49:05 -!- bombshelter13b [n=bombshel@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:04:17 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 09:05:25 nullpo [n=nullpo@221x252x46x83.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 09:09:48 pavelludiq [n=quassel@91.139.195.126] has joined #scheme 09:25:53 Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has joined #scheme 09:36:22 -!- TR2N [i=email@89-180-207-164.net.novis.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:39:08 -!- SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:41:57 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 09:56:35 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:02:15 alaricsp [n=alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 10:22:28 dmoerner_ [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has joined #scheme 10:23:09 -!- dmoerner_ [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has quit [Client Quit] 10:25:07 hm, i was looking for "PCLSRing: Keeping Process State Modular" by Alan Bawden, but appears broken 10:26:08 i haven't found any alternative source of it, so i was wondering of anyone here might know of one such (or maybe even could provide a previously snarfed copy) ? 10:32:15 -!- elderK [n=zk@125-236-160-147.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit ["Leaving."] 10:38:25 -!- sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-188.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:38:26 http://www.hack.org/mc/texts/pclsr.txt 10:39:29 sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-188.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 10:41:22 -!- sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-188.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:43:12 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.200.194] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:51:46 sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-188.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 10:52:01 mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 10:52:12 -!- mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:55:49 masm [n=masm@bl5-106-192.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 10:56:00 dzhus [n=sphinx@95-24-160-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 11:03:39 leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.200.194] has joined #scheme 11:07:42 drwho [n=d@c-98-225-208-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 11:19:11 minion: later tell mejja: that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 11:19:12 what is? 11:19:26 rudybot: later tell mejja: that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 11:19:26 minion: memo for mejja:: ski told me to tell you: that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 11:19:27 Remembered. I'll tell mejja: when he/she/it next speaks. 11:19:37 argh 11:19:40 rudybot: later tell mejja that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 11:19:40 minion: memo for mejja: ski told me to tell you: that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 11:19:40 Remembered. 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What should `accumulate-n' do when called as (accumulate-n + 0 '()) ? 16:02:22 emma: The error you're getting looks to be caused by wrongly placed parens 16:02:25 it shouldn't get that far. Once it sees something like (() () ()) then that should make it stop? 16:02:38 (accumulate op init (map (lambda (x) (car x)) seqs) should be (accumulate op init (map (lambda (x) (car x)) seqs)) 16:03:14 Having no sequences error is different from one of the sequences is empty error 16:03:17 You should check for both 16:03:19 seqs is the second argument to map, so the paren after that should be the closing paren for MAP 16:03:49 emma: Hover your mouse over the call to `accumulate' in `accumulate-n'; see where its opening paren is closed. 16:04:05 Try using an editor like Emacs or DrScheme and asking it to reindent the code; that should make the problem obvious too. 16:04:28 ahhhh you guys are right the only problem was the parens! (ooof!) 16:04:29 emma: But you also do need to check for an input like () to `accumulate-n'. 16:05:00 chandler: i guess I am assuming the input will always be a list of lists of the same length. 16:05:25 chandler: i don't know yet how to ensure that people put in the correct kind of arguments. maybe that's later in the book. 16:05:33 Ah, SICP 16:05:36 () is a list of (no) lists of the same length. :-) 16:05:37 I remember this one 16:05:55 (accumulate-n + 0 '()) should -> () 16:06:54 chandler: so maybe the test should be (if (or (null? (car x)) (null? seqs)) .. 16:07:19 Consider the order in which or evaluates its tests 16:07:27 emma: What is `car x' when `x' is () ? 16:07:33 er, (car x), not `car x' 16:07:45 oh so the order matters there? I thought maybe scheme would ignore nonsense in an or 16:07:53 emma: you're calling accumulate with too many arguments in (accumulate op init (map (lambda (x) (car x)) seqs) 16:08:06 It's not nonsense, it's a valid expression that causes an error 16:08:56 skampler: yeah but actually im relieved that my logic is apparently sound, that was just a parens problem really. 16:09:17 it works now that i put the parens there. 16:09:44 Jafet: yeah so the order matters. What i meant was that i thought scheme might consider an error in a predicate as just another kind of false. 16:11:28 Ignoring errors is almost never a good idea. 16:12:59 It's the way of western civilization! 16:13:03 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B05685D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:13:05 If I were a perfectionist (which I am), I would check if any of the lists in seqs are empty as well 16:13:23 If they are, the following code would cause an error 16:13:39 The most strict check would be to test in advance whether all of the lists are the same length. 16:13:51 Jafet: the assumption here is that accumulate-n is only being given sequences of lists that have the same length 16:14:00 (Or to check, on finding one empty list, that all of the other lists are empty too.) 16:14:27 I think srfi-1 just says ignore the remainder of the longer lists 16:14:28 emma: What editor are you using? As I mentioned, both Emacs and DrScheme will indent code so that paren errors like this become obvious. 16:14:36 Unless emma wants to stick with the assumption and verify it 16:14:41 chandler: drscheme 16:15:20 Jafet: you mean accumulate-n is an actual procedure that has some specification in some srfi ? 16:15:44 emma: Try selecting the entire program and then using the "Reindent" command in the "Scheme" menu. 16:15:55 okay 16:16:14 I think srfi-1 just calls it accumulate 16:16:51 i've never really learned how does the indentation rules in scheme help you read the code. 16:17:14 i'm not really sure what the indentation rules are since dr scheme usually does that. 16:17:26 Perhaps you should read about these rules 16:17:53 You are following SICP? 16:18:36 emma: You can also just use the tab key to reindent a given line. It's usually a good idea to do this when rearranging or modifying code. 16:19:26 Jafet: yes. 16:19:44 yeah id like to be fluid with the indentation rules so i could do them by hand if i had to, and so i could read other people's code easier. 16:20:48 I'm not sure I could do them by hand, to be honest. 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18:20:24 -!- SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 18:20:41 Can you be more specific about what you want to do with the results of every expression evaluated? 18:21:52 I'd like to compare/print the values, something like "found y when x was expected" if the result was wrong 18:22:49 *elly* has a small but useful set of functions for scheme->latex 18:23:13 JoelMcCracken: using (eval) ? 18:23:28 JoelMcCracken, perhaps you could give an example. 18:23:29 Summermute [n=Summermu@c-98-204-67-114.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:26:57 davazp [n=user@235.Red-88-6-207.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 18:29:46 NNshag [n=shag@lns-bzn-43-82-249-159-177.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 18:37:30 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:44:26 -!- Nshag [n=shag@lns-bzn-35-82-250-199-239.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:50:33 -!- sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-188.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:50:49 sepult` [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-90.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 18:54:02 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 19:01:41 jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:07:04 -!- mreggen [n=mreggen@cm-84.215.28.167.getinternet.no] has quit ["leaving"] 19:09:09 -!- k[a]tie is now known as katie11 19:09:35 -!- katie11 is now known as Caitlyn 19:14:48 luz [n=davids@189.122.90.116] has joined #scheme 19:15:13 -!- Waste [i=4d65a03a@gateway/web/freenode/x-jctnpcamrruorrum] has left #scheme 19:22:46 samth [n=samth@dhc023782.med.harvard.edu] has joined #scheme 19:27:28 -!- SvekloB_ [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:27:58 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 19:29:19 incwolf [n=phil@cpe-76-172-228-179.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 19:32:06 -!- incwolf_ [n=phil@cpe-76-172-228-179.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 19:35:49 -!- SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:36:05 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 19:57:53 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-33-119.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 19:58:34 -!- synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:59:54 synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has joined #scheme 20:03:25 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 20:03:57 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 20:04:22 mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 20:04:53 MononcQc [n=parseido@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 20:07:27 -!- SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:07:30 elderK [n=zk@125-236-160-147.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 20:07:57 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 20:11:24 -!- elderK [n=zk@125-236-160-147.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 20:13:43 davazp` [n=user@235.Red-88-6-207.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:14:23 rdd` [n=rdd@c83-250-145-223.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 20:14:59 -!- MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@users-33-177.vinet.ba] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:19:39 -!- rdd [n=rdd@c83-250-145-223.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:20:13 -!- rdd` [n=rdd@c83-250-145-223.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:21:24 -!- davazp` [n=user@235.Red-88-6-207.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 20:25:41 -!- SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26:48 rdd [n=user@c83-250-145-223.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 20:29:40 -!- davazp [n=user@235.Red-88-6-207.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:36:42 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 20:41:28 nvteighen [n=nvteighe@24.Red-79-152-147.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:41:31 hi! 20:42:12 question: is there an alternative way to get TinyCLOS working in PLT Scheme besides Swindle? 20:42:46 -!- sepult` [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-90.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:42:46 Unlikely 20:42:46 mejja, memo from rudybot: ski told me to tell you: that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 20:42:46 mejja, memo from rudybot: ski told me to tell you: that's a text document though .. though maybe i'm deluded as to the `ps' or `pdf' format of the original article 20:42:50 Swindle is too intrusive by shadowing and replacing stuff like set! and making provide behaiving weirdly 20:43:26 nvteighen, can't you just use the CLOS part of Swindle? 20:43:42 sepult` [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-90.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:43:52 hm... I tried (require swindle/clos)... but inmediately failed to recognize :initarg 20:44:22 Perhaps you need to write `#:initarg' rather than `:initarg'. 20:44:30 let's see :) 20:45:22 fails 20:46:26 What precisely are you trying? 20:46:36 dmoerner_ [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has joined #scheme 20:46:40 In general, you should specify (1) exactly what you typed, (2) exactly what you saw, and (3) exactly what you expected to see. 20:47:45 What I'm trying is to only have TinyCLOS... but it seems I can't separate that from the rest of Swindle without breaking it 20:47:57 I'll paste it 20:48:50 nvteighen pasted "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/92043 20:49:18 Error is: "test.scm:6:8: compile: unbound identifier in module in: :initarg" 20:49:39 Using #lang swindle will make this work, but then we'll get... 20:50:16 "test.scm:3:9: #%provide: bad syntax at: (all-defined-out) in: (#%provide (all-defined-out))" 20:50:41 Having to use (provide (all-defined)) in order to have this work... or start using define* 20:51:01 Well, DEFCLASS isn't part of Tiny-CLOS. 20:51:10 So you're trying to use more than just the Tiny-CLOS part of Swindle. 20:51:24 ! 20:51:38 But what happens if you use `#:initarg' rather than `:initarg'? 20:52:24 jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 20:52:51 "test.scm:6:8: #%datum: keyword used as an expression in: #:initarg" 20:54:07 -!- sepult` [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-90.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:55:37 That occurs when using #lang scheme + (require swindle/clos)... using #lang swindle will make it work, of course 20:56:02 sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-175-90.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:56:39 I guess I'll just have to use define* and defclass* and cope myself to Swindle's own providing system... 20:57:38 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:57:40 jgracin [n=jgracin@vipnet101-86.mobile.carnet.hr] has joined #scheme 20:57:40 At this point you should send mail to the mailing list, unless eli should pop up soon. 20:57:42 -!- dmoerner_ is now known as dmoerner 20:58:02 dmoerner_ [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has joined #scheme 20:59:31 TR2N [i=email@89.180.191.146] has joined #scheme 21:01:01 Riastradh: hm... I guess I won't be able... have to go now. :( 21:01:03 bye! 21:01:06 -!- nvteighen [n=nvteighe@24.Red-79-152-147.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #scheme 21:01:47 -!- Caitlyn is now known as Uxie15 21:03:03 Lotta lurkers here. What are you folks all up to? 21:04:40 Is `defclass' even part of Tiny CLOS? 21:05:58 *copumpkin* is really busy lurking 21:06:05 *copumpkin* gets back to it 21:06:29 Oh, yeah. I'm supposedly making falafel dough. Ahem. 21:06:33 *Daemmerung* gets back to it, too 21:07:31 Also, what Riastradh said 15 minutes ago. Oy. Me not read so good. 21:10:14 Riastradh: beware of cph's latest commit 21:11:41 Which one? 21:11:51 configure.ac 21:14:10 What's wrong with it? 21:15:02 elderK [n=zk@125-236-160-147.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 21:15:15 'lo Schemers! 21:15:54 Apart from autoconf? 21:16:19 Riastradh: It breaks the build of course (for me) 21:16:31 Heya mejja, Riastradh! 21:16:59 More specifically, mejja? 21:18:35 ... 21:19:38 Riastradh: I was thinking of you lately. 21:19:42 makegen/makeinit.sh fails on ./config.status i think 21:19:48 Reading about riaxpander. 21:23:26 Was just wondering how you became so proficient at Scheme. 21:23:27 :) 21:23:30 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@134.173.91.146] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:23:32 Other than hard earned experience and practice. 21:23:36 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [] 21:23:59 -!- Uxie15 is now known as k[a]tie 21:27:55 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@vipnet101-86.mobile.carnet.hr] has quit [Remote closed the 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