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I intend to study artificial intelligence and I've found that The Reasoned Schemer is interesting, altough much more difficult to me. Does anyone believe it would help me studying AI? 01:27:42 -!- Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:27:51 (what I mean is that I want to stop reading The Reasoned Schemer and start AI study) 01:28:45 Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:30:41 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-14-210-197.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:36:28 -!- Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:37:24 Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:45:46 jed_ [n=jed@216.211.244.253] has joined #scheme 01:45:50 -!- jed_ is now known as jedc 01:46:14 -!- dysinger [n=dysinger@71.20.35.99] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:57:33 -!- lucas_ is now known as hellues 01:57:41 -!- rudybot__ [n=luser@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:57:41 -!- subversus [i=elliot@loveturtle.net] has quit [simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 01:57:55 sleepydog [n=user@64-252-65-74.adsl.snet.net] has joined #scheme 01:58:32 subversus [i=elliot@loveturtle.net] has joined #scheme 02:00:32 rudybot__ [n=luser@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 02:04:52 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:05:22 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 02:08:10 sstrickl [n=sstrickl@c-76-119-235-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:09:49 *offby1* stares blankly 02:09:57 I've _heard_ of The Reasoned Schemer. Never read it. 02:12:46 -!- arthurmaciel [n=user@189.100.120.197] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:15:37 me too... 02:21:31 -!- underspecified [n=eric@155.69.197.88] has quit [] 02:25:24 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:26:03 *TimMc* catches zbigniew's NMI and swaps out a RAM card 02:26:58 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 02:26:59 -!- Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:28:07 Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:29:29 *offby1* catches Griffey's pop fly and tags out Buehner 02:29:49 a double play, might I add. 02:30:43 midrux [n=nickeade@200.125.118.188] has joined #scheme 02:30:48 -!- midrux [n=nickeade@200.125.118.188] has left #scheme 02:32:20 -!- Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:32:31 Poeir 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Are they necessary or simply syntactic candy? They seem to violate the code is data paradigm. 14:18:33 you mean like ' ? 14:19:19 #t #< those sorts of things 14:21:23 #t is not a reader macro, it is an external representation 14:21:26 see the r5rs 14:22:27 BW^- [n=Miranda@92.81.167.59] has joined #scheme 14:28:31 -!- bryanzh [n=user@114.94.107.61] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:32:23 jlongster [n=user@c-68-59-187-95.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:33:28 ok so #t is special 14:34:56 but a vector for instance 14:35:09 Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@mo-rsmitha21.op.umist.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 14:35:15 it can be specified with either (vector ...) or #(...) 14:35:45 I guess my question is. If reader macros were removed would there be anything you couldn't do? 14:36:30 -!- bombshelter13_ [n=bombshel@206.80.252.37] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:36:58 bombshelter13_ [n=bombshel@206.80.252.37] has joined #scheme 14:41:09 (vector 1 2) and #(1 2) are different 14:41:14 the latter is immutable. 14:41:21 sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-72-160.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:41:38 or rather, attempting to mutate it produces undefined results 14:42:38 -!- Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Success] 14:45:52 -!- merimus [n=wroth@nat-49.laurelnetworks.com] has quit [] 14:48:01 davids [n=davids@139.82.89.70] has joined #scheme 14:50:11 leppie|work [i=52d2e3c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-6bc295c17009c29c] has joined #scheme 14:53:57 -!- ASau [n=user@host65-231-msk.microtest.ru] has quit ["off"] 14:59:34 wingo-pi: I believe it actually is an error to attempt to mutate a literal vector 15:00:16 jewel 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a distant street a hear-shaped balloon rising to the sky, and i hear a child wailing 18:28:49 *heat 18:28:51 er 18:28:53 *heart :) 18:35:35 -!- snurble [n=snurble@s83-191-238-2.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:35:57 snurble [n=snurble@s83-191-238-2.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 18:36:22 nicoca [n=nicoca@mon76-1-88-168-192-93.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 18:36:55 -!- chylli [n=lchangyi@119.181.15.104] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:40:09 fschwidom [n=fschwido@p5B26B02E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:45:27 lol, i thought you meant pear 18:45:38 Arelius [n=indy@64.174.9.113] has joined #scheme 18:52:06 -!- dysinger [n=dysinger@98.246.183.155] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:02:48 -!- pyrolyte [n=pyrolyte@nat/cisco/x-b709919a1cc3dd8d] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:03:35 pyrolyte [n=pyrolyte@cpe-024-211-210-164.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 19:04:19 -!- leppie|work 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[n=svf@pdpc/supporter/active/svf] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:21:24 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 22:27:39 hi everyone 22:27:59 what is the cleanest way to write nested loops? 22:28:25 I use two nested named lets jengle. Different implementations have shortcut loop macros though. 22:29:08 jengle: i prefer named let 22:29:27 though any tail-recursive loop should compile to the same code (whether it comes from `do' or otherwise) 22:30:31 thanks 22:33:33 svf [n=svf@pdpc/supporter/active/svf] has joined #scheme 22:41:05 Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:43:36 jengle and its easy to define your own looping syntax with macros and lets 22:51:27 jengle: I like using nested foof loop macros. 22:52:27 jengle: If there is some really complex looping that needs to be broken out into many tiny functions and may inlude lot's of jumping in and out and around, I often find myself using many internal definitions, and a finan "initial" call to set it all up. 22:52:55 arcfide, foof? 22:53:47 -!- pyrolyte [n=pyrolyte@cpe-024-211-210-164.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 22:56:28 jengle: See Riastradh's code repo at . 22:56:47 jengle: I am actually using it right now for some things. I'll show you the code afterwards if you would like. 22:58:17 foof-loop doesn't work in plt 22:59:15 synx: What do you mean it doesn't work? What could possibly not work about it? Who doesn't have a port for foof loop!? I have a port, and Chez is R6RS, too. :-) 22:59:54 Oh I must just not have the port for PLT then. 23:00:34 synx: Well, it certainly runs in R6RS, so I can't imagine it not running in PLT. 23:00:40 Tried it myself, but... case sensitive, and... I dunno half of what foof-loop is doing. 23:01:23 Toast_ [n=Toast@69.9.96.5] has joined #scheme 23:01:40 Looks like offby1 made a port to PLT 23:02:10 synx: Hehe. 23:02:30 Could swear it wasn't there last time I looked. :) 23:03:49 synx maybe you are using a different language of plt's 23:04:29 No I found it on planet I mean. 23:05:27 -!- Phaze [n=PhazeDK@0x5da32b16.cpe.ge-0-1-0-1104.soebnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:06:21 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-55-209.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:06:36 -!- wingo [n=wingo@67.Red-79-156-145.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:06:37 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-55-209.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 23:06:46 attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 23:08:10 -!- bweaver [n=user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 23:09:03 -!- Toast_ is now known as DrToast 23:10:24 -!- eno__ is now known as eno 23:15:34 -!- svf [n=svf@pdpc/supporter/active/svf] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:17:19 sad0ur_ [n=sad0ur@psi.cz] has joined #scheme 23:20:28 cracki_ [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #scheme 23:21:10 -!- dysinger [n=dysinger@71.20.35.99] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:22:50 peter_12 [n=peter_12@S01060024016bb36c.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 23:23:09 arthurmaciel [n=user@189.100.119.114] has joined #scheme 23:23:17 hi there 23:23:50 I'm starting reading PAIP. Should I learn Common Lisp and try the examples with it or could I already try to translate them into scheme? 23:25:54 Toast [n=Toast@69.9.96.5] has joined #scheme 23:25:54 -!- DrToast [n=Toast@69.9.96.5] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:27:36 -!- jengle [n=jengle@64-252-50-88.adsl.snet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:28:05 -!- Toast is now known as DrToast 23:28:58 -!- sad0ur [n=sad0ur@psi.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:29:41 -!- stepnem [n=stepnem@topol.nat.praha12.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:30:12 -!- Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:30:21 stepnem [n=stepnem@topol.nat.praha12.net] has joined #scheme 23:31:25 arthurmaciel: How well do you know Scheme? 23:32:05 arthurmaciel: If you feel you know it fairly well at this point, it might be a good idea to learn CL and follow the examples as written just to get some experience with something different. 23:32:06 chandler: well enough to understand The Little Schemer and The Seasoned Schemer (and to have some difficulty with The Reasoned Schemer) 23:33:58 chandler: thanks 23:36:11 Reading a book in one language and translating to another can be a fun exercise, but it probably helps to have a thorough knowledge of both languages before you begin. 23:38:18 chandler: thanks again. I'll see how I feel with CL 23:38:41 -!- cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:53:25 does anyone know what car and cdr means (the abbreviation I mean)? 23:53:33 and cons too 23:54:02 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAR_and_CDR 23:54:02 car and cdr were the named of registers on the original lisp machine or something close to that 23:54:14 chandler: thanks 23:54:23 i always though cons was for construct but that could just be wishful thinking 23:55:42 jedc: thanks 23:57:14 jedc: The function cons stands for "construct." (PAIP, p. 35) 23:58:25 hehe, you guess right every once in a while ;)