00:00:05 i'm kidding, that thing is older than you are 00:00:16 probably, yep 00:04:21 orgy_ [n=ratm_@pD9FFF0A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 00:04:47 -!- orgy_ [n=ratm_@pD9FFF0A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:04:57 Elly, well, I would have ended up building RDF from scratch for this (more or less, probably less), so I figure I should stick with the standard if only for marketing purposes. 00:05:18 ahh, I see 00:05:19 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFF025.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:07:14 who are you marketing this to? 00:07:49 zbigniew: Newcomers to Scheme, people who use Scheme to get real work done, and people who are afraid to use Scheme in their projects for fear of having to reinvent the wheel constantly. 00:07:59 zbigniew: It was a requested format for Descot. 00:09:54 I believe the person requesting this was largely impelled by a desire to integrate automatic library metadat construction for submission to descot servers. 00:11:56 jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:12:31 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.250.68] has quit ["leaving"] 00:16:54 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:17:25 Modius_ [n=Modius@ppp-70-244-122-98.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 00:22:56 Modius__ [n=Modius@adsl-68-91-194-195.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 00:29:21 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-37-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:33:18 -!- Modius [n=Modius@ppp-70-129-200-37.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:33:32 Modius [n=Modius@ppp-70-244-121-201.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 00:35:14 -!- raikov [n=igr@60.32.127.43] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:36:05 wy [n=wy@66.194.68.209] has joined #scheme 00:36:15 -!- wy [n=wy@66.194.68.209] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:36:35 -!- Modius_ [n=Modius@ppp-70-244-122-98.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:36:43 raikov [n=igr@60.32.127.43] has joined #scheme 00:42:10 -!- Modius__ [n=Modius@adsl-68-91-194-195.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:43:25 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@cpe-70-113-217-213.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:48:14 synthase [n=synthase@c-68-63-19-212.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:02:28 -!- raikov [n=igr@60.32.127.43] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:07:53 -!- rodge [n=user@129.10.116.123] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:09:52 rodge [n=user@pinball.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 01:17:44 meanburrito920_ [n=John@76-217-6-100.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:18:12 Modius_ [n=Modius@ppp-70-244-121-201.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 01:20:00 raikov [n=igr@60.32.127.43] has joined #scheme 01:27:18 ventonegro [n=alex@189.62.125.10] has joined #scheme 01:28:13 -!- rdd` [n=rdd@c83-250-152-109.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:30:13 -!- hadronzoo_ [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-251-98-238.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 01:32:06 -!- mejja [n=user@c-f6b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:34:56 -!- Modius [n=Modius@ppp-70-244-121-201.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:41:40 sphex [n=nobody@modemcable185.138-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 01:43:31 -!- raikov [n=igr@60.32.127.43] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:47:57 -!- blackened` [n=blackene@ip-89-102-208-138.karneval.cz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:58:36 -!- sphex_ [n=nobody@modemcable185.138-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:59:04 wow, git is stupid 02:06:35 foof: BUT IT'S SO FAST 02:07:13 premature optimization 02:07:32 The one thing it does noticably faster is a checkout of the whole linux repo. 02:08:17 If that case (that you only need to do once) is so important, it's trivial to add a cache for fast checkout to any existing SVN. 02:11:27 -!- Modius_ [n=Modius@ppp-70-244-121-201.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:12:23 what did git do? 02:14:39 non sequitur... git is stupid by definition. 02:15:52 hmmm 02:16:08 some friends are pushing me to try it 02:18:06 raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has joined #scheme 02:18:57 incubot: stupid gitters! 02:19:00 code works OK at toplevel. This is something to do with those stupid psyntax modules 02:25:17 git even optimized their command-line option processing beyond the limits of sanity 02:25:43 'oh no, we can't possibly use a string wrapper around char*, it'll cause too much of a performance hit' 02:25:51 saccade [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 02:26:03 ventonegro: It does something that svn also gets wrong, but darcs gets right - track changes after you move a file. 02:26:35 What's the point of having a move/rename command if the history isn't preserved? 02:26:46 i see 02:27:17 i guess git *tries* to follow renames, based on hash, which must fail a lot 02:27:17 But on checking hg gets this wrong too - is darcs the only one who does this? 02:27:45 No, I'm guessing it doesn't try at all. 02:29:13 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@92.36.188.118] has joined #scheme 02:29:35 naw, git trackes rename 02:29:56 naw, git tracks renames based on content, which works surprisingly well 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12:08:50 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-241-165-241.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:12:22 use a symbol when you can, a string when you must 12:12:47 -!- hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit ["|_ e /\ \/ i |/| G"] 12:13:47 if the decision's not obvious, what are you doing? 12:14:10 mime headers 12:14:42 Which are to most Schemers immediately obvious symbol candidates. 12:15:42 But in a long-running server that doesn't gc symbols, they can be used as a DoS attack by clients generating long, random headers. 12:16:36 jewel_ [n=jewel@41.247.202.232] has joined #scheme 12:17:21 But I was just curious in general what people thought. 12:18:13 your DoS scenario immplies use of string->symbol 12:19:00 You suggest uninterned symbols? 12:19:05 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-241-165-241.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:19:58 all I can really say is that in my simple programs, the universe of symbols is limited to those that actually appear somewhere in my source text 12:20:21 This is very much not so in this case. 12:21:07 mike_ [n=m@dslb-088-066-238-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 12:21:34 -!- mike_ is now known as Guest81162 12:22:04 Specifically, there are certain headers that individual applications are very concerned with, but all others must be exactly preserved. 12:25:35 the practical concerns are beyond my expertise, I'm afraid 12:27:00 my only thought is: store a bijective mapping between strings and symbols for the ones you are interested in, and leave the rest as strings 12:28:02 In general for this type of scenario one can think of a string->symbol/maybe-uninterned which returns the interned symbol if it already existed (i.e. occurred somewhere in the source code and thus may be compared directly w/ eq?) otherwise returns an uninterned symbol. 12:28:24 In other words, it never interns a new symbol. 12:28:35 This is course loses badly with separate compilation. 12:29:00 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-241-165-241.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 12:29:47 -!- Guest38801 [n=m@dslb-088-066-237-199.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:30:35 Of course, just gc'ing symbols alleviates but doesn't solve the problem - you're still giving attackers a way to directly pollute your symbol table. 12:36:52 HG` [n=wells@85.8.90.161] has joined #scheme 12:39:41 -!- HG` [n=wells@85.8.90.161] has quit [Client Quit] 12:40:44 foof, Riastradh: git log -M --follow the_file 12:40:44 you can omit -M if you didn't mess with the config for renaming detection 12:42:34 Renaming detection? It heuristically determines whether a file was renamed by the user w/ normal system comands rather than having its own rename command? 12:45:20 -!- and` [n=hufs4@ti0035a340-1467.bb.online.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:46:00 yes, http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitFaq#head-557ab0dbe84efb4e6a091f43c05b326a52b8fc03 12:46:03 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/qdbw8m 12:50:28 Sounds slow... edit distance is O(n) and you need to perform that on all pairs of files => O(nm^2) 12:53:24 -!- kniu [n=kniu@OVERLORD.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:53:40 Hmmm... you could modify the edit distance algorithm to run all files in parallel. Needs lots of memory though. 12:54:11 *foof* doesn't understand the rationale for not directly tracking renames 12:55:10 It sounds like they're saying "if you rely on a rename command for tracking history but someone just deletes and creates a file instead of using the rename command you lose the rename info." 12:55:20 To which the obvious answer is "so don't do that." 12:56:30 it's not that bad, because it only looks for deleted -> new connections 12:58:22 puchacz [n=puchacz@87-194-5-99.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 13:01:29 I have no idea what was done to MIT Scheme's Git repository, but already it doesn't work very well. 13:02:20 ejs2 [n=eugen@77.222.151.102] has joined #scheme 13:04:02 Lovely... a bus error :/ 13:04:08 Bus error? 13:04:14 In Git? MIT Scheme? Chicken? 13:04:20 Chicken 13:04:29 non-sequitor 13:04:32 underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 13:04:35 (sequitur) 13:04:46 (and no hyphen) 13:05:14 good thing it wasn't military road... 13:05:26 hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-251-98-238.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 13:05:35 Well, bus errors aren't supposed to happen in MIT Scheme, but they don't surprise me coming from Git or Chicken. 13:11:24 -!- ejs1 [n=eugen@nat.ironport.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:12:11 -!- mooto [n=mooto@59.172.140.184] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:15:02 rtra [n=user@unaffiliated/rtra] has joined #scheme 13:18:42 -!- |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:22:45 hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 13:28:56 tbeck [n=Becker@201-11-21-36.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #scheme 13:29:26 aha 13:30:19 -!- tbeck [n=Becker@201-11-21-36.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Client Quit] 13:31:56 bombshelter13_ [n=greg@toronto-gw.adsl.erx01.mtlcnds.ext.distributel.net] has joined #scheme 13:32:19 langmartin [n=user@exeuntcha.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 13:32:36 the problem is in the iconv extension 13:32:46 /j #medium 13:32:56 tbeck [n=Becker@201-11-21-36.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #scheme 13:33:19 talking to C always makes bus errors a possibility :/ 13:34:38 |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:40:21 Mr-Cat [n=Miranda@hermes.lanit.ru] has joined #scheme 13:47:34 -!- underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:49:24 pants2 [n=hkarau@206-248-161-171.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 13:49:30 -!- |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:49:59 brandelune [n=suzume@pl252.nas933.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 13:51:31 pants3 [n=hkarau@75-119-235-234.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 13:54:38 sepult_ [n=sepult@xdsl-87-78-130-200.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 13:59:27 -!- kuribas [i=kristof@d54C2AC91.access.telenet.be] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 14:00:33 higepon846 [n=taro@FLH1Aip247.tky.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #scheme 14:00:37 Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has joined #scheme 14:01:31 -!- langmartin [n=user@exeuntcha.tva.gov] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 14:02:55 -!- qebab [n=finnrobi@eros.orakel.ntnu.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:03:39 -!- ejs2 [n=eugen@77.222.151.102] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:05:55 luz [n=davids@139.82.89.70] has joined #scheme 14:05:56 |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:05:58 -!- pants1 [n=hkarau@75-119-233-47.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:06:24 -!- pants2 [n=hkarau@206-248-161-171.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:09:39 -!- sepult [n=sepult@xdsl-87-78-75-129.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:10:07 -!- X-Scale [n=email@89.180.162.124] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:13:27 langmartin [n=user@exeuntcha.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 14:20:33 mejja [n=user@c-f6b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 14:21:07 blackened` [n=blackene@ip-89-102-208-138.karneval.cz] has joined #scheme 14:34:39 dlt_ [n=dlt@201.80.181.75] has joined #scheme 14:34:51 kess [n=kess@121.Red-79-151-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:35:38 -!- hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-251-98-238.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 14:39:06 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-241-165-241.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:39:51 mrscheme [n=user@67.110.140.180.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #scheme 14:43:46 -!- tbeck [n=Becker@201-11-21-36.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [] 14:48:33 tbeck [n=Becker@201-11-21-36.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #scheme 14:48:49 cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #scheme 14:49:56 -!- CSdread__ [n=danielf@209-188-116-183.taosnet.com] has quit [] 14:51:35 eno__ [n=eno@adsl-70-137-151-46.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 14:52:22 In PLT's DrScheme, is there a way to close a tab when using the Emacs-style key bindings? 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I don't have a problem with hg after either `export LANG="C"` or even `export LANG="crap"`, at least not on diff, log or st commands 16:39:47 *zbigniew* makes a note to upgrade to crap++, though 16:41:03 I've heard the current release version is a bit buggy. 16:41:47 *zbigniew* feigns disgust 16:42:31 abort: unknown encoding: X-MAC-JAPANESE, please check your locale settings 16:42:45 I think it's specifically on Japanese macs. 16:43:20 *gnomon* exerts intense self control and avoids the obvious line of jokes 16:43:36 ? 16:44:28 He's talking about the CRAP 16:45:31 I see, so hg could still be ignoring my locale directive on a US mac, I just wouldn't know it. OK 16:46:00 It's not like hg has actually been localised. 16:46:30 Python - there's only one way to do it, and that way is _English_, damnit! 16:47:43 ah, just like Ruby? 16:47:51 (which is from fricking Japan!) 16:48:11 we now sport full Unicode support for U+0000 ~ U+00FF 16:48:14 Nonsense, everyone knows the real author is from Sweden. 16:48:22 >:) 16:48:50 -!- |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:48:59 (-: 16:49:08 :-( 16:52:15 -!- tbeck [n=Becker@201-11-21-36.mganm702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:55:56 -!- mmc [n=mima@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:56:56 REPLeffect [n=REPLeffe@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 16:58:21 -!- rtra [n=user@unaffiliated/rtra] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:59:12 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-76-29-188-22.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:05:04 dysinger [n=tim@98.246.183.155] has joined #scheme 17:05:46 |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:15:40 rtra [n=user@unaffiliated/rtra] has joined #scheme 17:18:56 orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFDDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 17:21:16 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@205.167.47.253] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:21:56 X-Scale2 [i=email@89.180.229.68] has joined #scheme 17:24:12 -!- X-Scale [i=email@89-180-209-198.net.novis.pt] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:24:23 incubot: (##sys#char->utf8-string #\u7b56) 17:24:24  17:24:50 -!- X-Scale2 is now known as X-Scale 17:27:38 -!- jewel_ [n=jewel@41.247.202.232] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:28:09 jewel_ [n=jewel@dsl-247-199-60.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:34:41 -!- hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:35:07 hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD124214245222.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 17:35:15 -!- bsmntbombgirl [n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:35:42 bsmntbombgirl [n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 17:37:25 -!- sepult_ [n=sepult@xdsl-87-78-130-200.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:49 sepult [n=sepult@xdsl-87-78-130-200.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 17:53:06 Ragnaroek [i=54a67ad2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa3cb7961e637083] has joined #scheme 17:55:16 -!- langmartin [n=user@exeuntcha.tva.gov] has left #scheme 17:57:25 djork_ [n=djork@c-76-100-224-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:58:26 djork__ [n=djork@c-76-100-224-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:59:57 djork___ [n=djork@c-76-100-224-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:00:09 -!- ejs [n=eugen@21-68-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:11:44 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFDDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:14:06 -!- djork [n=djork@c-76-100-224-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:15:58 -!- djork_ [n=djork@c-76-100-224-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:16:16 -!- djork__ [n=djork@c-76-100-224-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:17:05 orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFDDD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:18:53 eli: I just realized that the online Python docs are structured somewhat like the online PLT docs: there's a search box which appears to work locally via JavaScript; and main entry pages have a nice sidebar on the left that shows subentries on that page. But it's dog-slow. 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sladegen: in principle, it should be indexing; due to chroot constraints, i'm going to have to write an unjailed indexer, though 21:08:58 been meaning to get to it for a couple months; should be a quick job 21:12:46 -!- dlt_ [n=dlt@201.80.181.75] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:13:49 -!- Ragnaroek [i=54a67ad2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa3cb7961e637083] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 21:18:35 Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 21:27:21 -!- shelducks [n=agis@cpe-24-198-28-3.buffalo.res.rr.com] has left #scheme 21:29:33 -!- kniu [n=kniu@CMU-284828.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:36:44 Elly [n=elly@unaffiliated/elly] has joined #scheme 21:41:35 -!- ejs [n=eugen@187-236-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:41:52 kniu [n=kniu@CMU-284828.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 21:42:02 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:42:18 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