00:00:15 slom: boredom is close to death; quick: finish SICP, CLRS and PAIP! 00:02:38 men more pious than you are going to kick your ass for being bored in the presence of such works 00:03:17 klutometis: hehe ... well advised :) 00:03:20 heh 00:04:21 *slom* is searching for the old dead-tree version of SICP he once printed on university printers using univerity paper 00:04:51 as a student you had to save were possible :) 00:05:13 meh; just use the free one: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html 00:05:40 necrodendrolatry (the worship of dead books) is over-rated 00:05:42 if you're really masochistic, browse it in emacs with the ascii-art figures 00:06:00 http://www.neilvandyke.org/sicp-texi/ 00:06:20 maybe I should try reading it front to back for a change ... back then I jumped directly to the compiler stuff 00:06:34 ... and understood nothing 00:07:04 FareWell [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:07:22 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:08:00 slom: the metacirc stuff in chapter 4, or the machine in chapter 5? 00:08:54 started with chap 4 00:09:31 yeah; you can probably blow through chps 1 and 2 00:09:34 and tried to implement it in C ... also had some other meta-circular interpreters (art of interpreter ...) 00:09:36 3 has some stream stuff which is fun 00:09:39 nice 00:10:11 made me realise wich part of that strange concept called 'closures' was missing in C 00:10:17 heh 00:20:50 -!- kniu [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:24:18 -!- gweiqi [n=greg@] has left #scheme 00:24:45 -!- glogic [n=rm@] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:29:13 gweiqi [n=greg@] has joined #scheme 00:30:22 glogic [n=rm@] has joined #scheme 00:34:20 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B056A71.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:37:52 raikov [n=igr@] has joined #scheme 00:41:14 hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD059133115102.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 00:52:56 neilv: hey, didn't know about the texinfo version of sicp. have to give it a go :-) 00:54:08 benny [n=benny@i577A0BE9.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 01:00:26 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:05:56 eno__ [n=eno@adsl-70-137-183-68.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:07:51 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 01:09:09 -!- benny` [n=benny@i577A066E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:11:14 -!- melgray [n=melgray@] has quit [] 01:13:47 -!- eno [n=eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:13:50 SugarGlider [n=stevie@dyn-203-143-164-139.qrl.nicta.com.au] has joined #scheme 01:13:54 -!- eno__ is now known as eno 01:31:25 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:37:19 -!- slom [n=slom@pD9EB515B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:37:45 bitweiler [n=phax@ppp-70-248-133-86.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 01:39:48 fean [n=user@caffeine.and.vomitandmath.net] has joined #scheme 01:40:24 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:45:01 -!- FareWell [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:59:01 bohanlon [n=bohanlon@pool-71-184-223-212.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:00:51 synthase [n=synthase@] has joined #scheme 02:01:51 higepon235 [n=taro@218-223-22-146.bitcat.net] has joined #scheme 02:05:05 tripwyre_ [n=sathya@] has joined #scheme 02:05:20 -!- higepon235 [n=taro@218-223-22-146.bitcat.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:14:24 -!- tripwyre [n=sathya@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:18:20 -!- borism [n=boris@195-50-199-79-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:22:25 C has some closure support, at least gcc does. 02:22:25 They're not first class though, and memory management is screwy. 02:22:26 *because memory management is screwy 02:22:36 I use it a lot when stupid libraries want to roll their own for loop. 02:25:13 -!- davidad [n=me@dhcp-18-111-16-64.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:25:14 saccade_ [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 02:27:50 minion: advice for synx 02:27:51 synx: #11919: No. You must believe the ERROR MESSAGE. You MUST believe the error message. 02:28:12 Error: Invalid Argument 02:29:24 gnu c doesn't have closure support if you ask me... 02:30:25 You can create functions inside other functions, that can use the variables defined by the enwrapping function. 02:30:43 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:30:44 Gee... 02:31:04 Trouble is since C has no way to prevent stack unwinding (aka garbage collection), once a function returns, all those variables can't be retained, so it's not really a closure. 02:32:31 I also do closures like: struct closure { void (*callback)(void*); void* user_data; }; 02:33:37 m. 02:33:53 The C calling convention sucks royal monkey balls though, so that's about the best you can do, is have a required unspecified argument along with the procedure. You can't call a function with a list of arguments, for instance. 02:34:04 most gc wont look at the stack... 02:34:29 maybe it's a bad analogy elf. memory is memory to me... 02:35:11 *elf* takes your l1 and l2 caches, all of your video ram, and swaps out your disks for a nice zipdrive. 02:35:17 *elf* is just being snarky. 02:39:28 npe [i=npe@dn157-088.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 02:43:16 wrldpc [n=worldpea@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 02:46:01 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:49:57 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-186-239-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:53:45 hehehe 02:57:09 eli, I've been tweaking that xml-writer thing to be more friendly toward making a procedure for every tag name. just one thing that's bothering me is namespaces. Am I going to have to write stuff like (html:html (html:head (html:title "Bleah")) (html:body (html:p "...")))? 02:57:57 at that point it'd just be clearer to do (element "html" (element "head" (element "title" "Bleah") ... 02:57:57 synx: how would you handle default namespaces? 02:58:12 So, maybe special files that don't import with a prefix? 02:58:46 bpalmer: default namespaces...? 02:59:21 I could make these special files ending in .html, and they could use a sort of mark-up language to define the tag names attributes and contents. 03:00:31 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 03:02:19 synx: Hi</head></html> is semantically the same as <html:html xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html-1999"><html:head><html:title>Hi</html:title></html:head></html:html> 03:03:15 reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 03:03:28 <synx> bpalmer: noooo not those namespaces o.O 03:04:02 <eli> synx: The smart thing to do is to mirror the namespaces using modules. So you just define `html' `head' `element' etc in an "html.ss" file, and if you run into conflicts in your xml-generating code, you require the code with a prefix -- so you use `html:head' only if there's some other `head' you want to use. 03:04:04 <bpalmer> I see. 03:04:11 <synx> for the record I don't fully understand the namespace:predicate=value sort of thing, so work with me on that. 03:05:28 <synx> eli: So that would lead to creating files in sort of the "view" style I'd think, where the entire file/module is a scheme representation of an XML document to be. 03:06:02 <synx> Not that that's a bad thing. I'm just not sure it trumps using a bastardized XML/scheme mixed language, the way everyone else does it. 03:06:05 <eli> synx: Yes, and that's a good thing. 03:06:44 <eli> FWIW, I usually also use a generic `tag' function, similar to your `element' above. 03:07:12 <eli> Also, you can define a new type for `verbatim' text so you can use existing xml content easily. 03:07:22 <synx> personally I...like scheme better than XML. It's literally impossible to have mismatched tags for instance. 03:07:34 <eli> ...and you can still use quasiquotes and unquotes, if you insist on that kind of headache. 03:09:01 <synx> Yeah, I kind of got tired of syntax when I noticed any error in the syntax body highlighted the whole two pages of the expression. 03:09:55 <synx> So what you're saying eli, is a bastardization mixing scheme and XML, but scheme is the default not XML, unlike with templating. 03:10:16 <eli> Yes, sort of. 03:10:52 <eli> Re bad errors -- that's because writing good macros is difficult. (And using `syntax-rules' it's pretty much impossible.) 03:11:01 <synx> ehe, strings are fun. 03:11:04 <synx> Then you could have scheme code inside CDATA in the XML in the string in the scheme module. 03:11:28 -!- felipe [n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has quit [Client Quit] 03:12:38 <synx> I'm sure bad at writing macros. I just pass a thunk in instead of having it accept an ellipsis form. 03:14:37 -!- johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 03:18:57 <neilv> i have a fancy html/xml syntax built atop syntax-case. i'm just waiting to do an xml srfi draft before i release it 03:20:30 <neilv> the srfi will be very similar to plt's, and almost entirely a superset 03:20:44 eno__ [n=eno@adsl-70-137-162-92.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 03:21:31 -!- eno [n=eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:22:48 <synx> sounds um... hm 03:24:06 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-235-227.dsl.look.ca] has quit ["If only your veins were filled with oil, the world would rush to your rescue!"] 03:25:40 -!- breily [n=breily@] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:26:23 breily [n=breily@] has joined #scheme 03:26:55 -!- breily [n=breily@] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:27:38 breily [n=breily@] has joined #scheme 03:28:02 -!- breily [n=breily@] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:29:04 breily [n=breily@] has joined #scheme 03:30:30 <neilv> i'm trying to unify plt and sxml at the same time that i add some missing pieces to both 03:30:45 <neilv> before i release all my new libraries 03:34:02 <synx> It'd be interesting if you implemented sxml as a plt language. 03:39:40 breily_ [n=breily@] has joined #scheme 03:41:25 <klutometis> synx: is there any other sane way to do xml in scheme besides sxml? 03:41:48 *elf* uses a thing he wrote. 03:41:58 <klutometis> elf: ever release it? 03:42:08 <elf> www.aculei.net/~elf/xml-light.scm 03:42:35 -!- underspecified_ [n=eric-n@leopard175.naist.jp] has quit [] 03:42:40 <elf> nah, it was throwaway. id clean it up and add some easy searching or something before release. 03:42:41 <klutometis> elf: hey, nice; that's a hell-of-a-lot less baroque than sxml's source 03:43:00 <klutometis> elf: just use sxpath on the result 03:43:03 <synx> klutometis: I've been working on something... mostly I just want to do scheme, and have it happen to generate xml, while not itself being xml exactly. 03:43:19 <klutometis> synx: hmm; well, i'd be interested to see it 03:43:26 <elf> its not sxml compatible, i think. 03:43:30 <synx> My thought is that it's better to use one language as much as possible, instead of trying to make hybridized templates. 03:44:07 felipe [n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has joined #scheme 03:44:22 <synx> klutometis: https://synx.us.to/code/scheme/xml-writer/xml.ss 03:44:40 <klutometis> elf: sxpath works on any list, afaik; it does have this bizarre (@ attributes) thingy, though 03:44:59 <synx> I'm still fiddling with it though, so have some mysterious voids cropping up here and there. Plus um... the 'gen' syntax is just unfun and I'll probably delete it per eli's suggestion. 03:46:45 <elf> klutometis: my parser handles the attributes and puts them into a @ form. 03:47:01 <synx> lol @-ributes 03:50:10 -!- eno__ is now known as eno 03:54:19 <synx> well, got rid of the voids. 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propably for several days."] 12:18:25 mmc [n=mima@esprx01x.nokia.com] has joined #scheme 12:19:14 -!- hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD059133115102.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has quit ["|_ e /\ \/ i |/| G"] 12:24:20 mike [n=m@dslb-088-067-027-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 12:24:48 -!- mike is now known as Guest57244 12:25:33 -!- lowlycoder [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has quit ["leaving"] 12:29:21 jah [n=jah@22.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #scheme 12:30:38 -!- jah [n=jah@22.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:32:41 -!- dfeuer [n=dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:35:32 choas [n=lars@] has joined #scheme 13:11:21 <hkBst> r5rs file-exists? 13:11:21 <specbot> Sorry, I couldn't find anything for file-exists?. 13:11:48 <hkBst> r5rs with-input-from-file 13:11:48 <specbot> http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_600 13:11:50 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/delx9d 13:12:25 annodomini 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Is there an r5rs way to check for existence of such a target file or just delete it regardless before trying to write to it? 13:30:00 -!- geckosenator [n=sean@] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:37:49 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 13:44:18 <foof> hkBst: nope 13:44:24 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:44:29 <foof> A pretty severe limitation to R5RS. 13:45:50 Mr-Cat [n=Miranda@hermes.lanit.ru] has joined #scheme 13:50:36 arcfide [n=arcfide@156-56-205-135.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 13:51:31 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 13:55:42 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:00:45 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Miranda@hermes.lanit.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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(if (= var 1) (display "1") ((display "2") (display "3"))) 18:02:49 <gnomon> siloxid`, investigate BEGIN. 18:03:21 <siloxid`> ok 18:03:30 <gnomon> r5rs begin 18:03:30 <specbot> http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-7.html#%_idx_136 18:03:33 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/w4m4a 18:10:00 ecraven [n=nex@] has joined #scheme 18:14:54 mmc [n=mima@esprx01x.nokia.com] has joined #scheme 18:16:12 schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A17A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:16:25 -!- jah [n=jah@22.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 18:18:27 Mr_SpOOn [n=Mr_SpOOn@93-42-21-236.ip84.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 18:19:21 reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:19:24 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:23:40 -!- Nichibutsu [n=myfabse@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:32:40 bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-118-98.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 18:33:50 kniu [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 18:48:51 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:51:36 -!- Guest57244 [n=m@dslb-088-067-027-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 18:54:06 -!- slom [n=slom@pD9EB72EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:54:49 kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@] has joined #scheme 19:01:02 reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 19:01:14 -!- reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:05:25 -!- krat3r [n=krat@wifi.ist.utl.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:07:45 -!- luz [n=davids@] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:11:06 -!- CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-75-68-42-94.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:11:27 geckosenator [n=sean@] has joined #scheme 19:12:09 <synx> eli: so how about this: https://synx.us.to/code/scheme/xml-maker/xml.ss 19:12:37 aaco [n=aaco@unaffiliated/aaco] has joined #scheme 19:12:53 <synx> You throw a bunch of identifiers at define-named-elements, and then poof you've got a module for a certain document type. 19:20:23 -!- mmc [n=mima@esprx01x.nokia.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:21:24 -!- langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:22:10 <eli> synx: Looks fine to me. 19:22:24 <eli> synx: Note that you can simplify the macro: 19:22:55 <eli> (define-syntax-rule (define-named-elements name ...) (begin (define name (named-element 'name)) ...)) 19:23:36 <eli> Also, you require appending the whole actual output, which can be inefficient, and you do that building your way up to the final result, which can make it much worse. 19:23:40 <synx> Eh, it's equivalent, and not too hard to read as-is. 19:24:05 <eli> So is the short version. (Actually, the short version is more readable IMO.) 19:24:13 <synx> The whole actual output...? 19:24:25 <eli> Yes, you `string-append' the output. 19:25:04 <synx> Right it all ends up as one big string. 19:25:31 hark [n=strider@hark.slew.org] has joined #scheme 19:27:09 <synx> You can leave the ellipses by themselves like that? That's kind of odd... 19:27:32 <eli> And you may build up a string from built-up strings => can be very inefficient. 19:28:06 <eli> And it means that you can't plant special values in the result -- I like to be able to stick thunks and promises there. 19:28:14 <eli> "leave ellipses by themselves"? 19:32:04 CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-75-68-42-94.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:33:36 <synx> Promises I hadn't considered hm... 19:33:45 <synx> eli: ment 'name)) ...)) 19:34:12 <synx> At the end of your syntax thingy 19:34:50 <eli> It's not left alone -- the ellipsis at the end applies to both the quoted an unquoted names inside. 19:35:35 <synx> Would that expand (define-named-element a b c d e f) to (define a (named-element 'a)) b c d e f? 19:35:36 <synx> inside what? 19:36:16 <synx> oh, you mean (define name (named-element 'name)) ... sort of applies that (define) expression to every name in the name ... 19:36:28 <eli> No, it would expand to (begin (define a (named-element 'a)) (define b (named-element 'b)) (define c (named-element 'c))) 19:37:20 <synx> How odd. Convenient though. 19:37:39 <eli> I have no idea what's odd there. 19:37:58 <synx> So (X n) ... from "n ..." takes 19:38:02 <synx> erg 19:38:18 <synx> So "(X n) ..." from "n ..." takes every n and wraps an X around it. 19:38:40 <eli> Yes. 19:38:50 <synx> Somehow it searches through the first expression to find what's being expanded. 19:39:04 <eli> rudybot: eval (define-syntax-rule (foo x ...) (list (list '< x '>) ...)) 19:39:04 -!- reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:39:05 <rudybot> eli: your scheme/base sandbox is ready 19:39:09 <eli> rudybot: eval (foo 1 2 3 4) 19:39:10 <rudybot> eli: ; Value: ((< 1 >) (< 2 >) (< 3 >) (< 4 >)) 19:39:41 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 19:42:40 wrldpc_ [n=worldpea@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 19:42:40 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:42:41 <synx> Okay, so my encoder takes account for promises now. It also uses a more specific definition of thunk than just procedure? 19:45:14 -!- appletizer [i=user@82-32-123-217.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:48:05 <eli> But you're still collecting the full list before you print it out. 19:52:42 <synx> I don't know what you want me to do exactly. 19:53:09 <synx> I could try to make it so if it finds a promise, that propogates upward and the whole document becomes a promise? 19:56:29 reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 19:56:44 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:56:54 <eli> A strategy that works better is to collect some type that contains the various strings etc instead of an actual string. A natural type for this are lists. 19:57:40 <synx> Okay, so make a giant list, that you then flatten and string-append? 19:57:46 <synx> That'd still error out for promises and thunks. 19:59:24 <synx> I think the best would be to make an append procedure that's aware of those sort of deferrals, and defers instead of erroring out. 20:05:01 <eli> huh? 20:05:21 <eli> You make a giant list -- which is better than a giant string. 20:05:37 <eli> You never flatten and append it, you just print out the elements one by one. 20:05:47 <synx> string-append, if it finds a promise not a string, it errors out. 20:06:03 <eli> You don't `string-append'. 20:06:48 <synx> So you mean I make a special print statement that prints out all the elements, and forces/de-thunks as needed? 20:06:58 <eli> Yes. It's simple. 20:07:26 <synx> Be simpler than making a special append procedure I guess. 20:07:47 -!- ejs [n=eugen@23-62-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:07:59 <eli> rudybot: eval (define (output x) (cond [(pair? x) (output (car x)) (output (cdr x))] [(or (null? x) (not x) (void? x)) (void)] [(procedure? x) (output (x))] [(promise? x) (output (force x))] [else (display x)])) 20:08:23 <eli> rudybot: eval (define (bold xs) (list "*" xs "*")) 20:08:35 <eli> rudybot: eval (show (list "foo" "bar" (bold "baz"))) 20:08:36 <rudybot> eli: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: show in module: 'program 20:08:42 <eli> rudybot: eval (output (list "foo" "bar" (bold "baz"))) 20:08:42 <rudybot> eli: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: promise? in module: 'program 20:08:48 Jarvellis [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #scheme 20:08:54 <eli> rudybot: init scheme 20:08:56 <rudybot> eli: your scheme sandbox is ready 20:08:59 <eli> rudybot: eval (define (output x) (cond [(pair? x) (output (car x)) (output (cdr x))] [(or (null? x) (not x) (void? x)) (void)] [(procedure? x) (output (x))] [(promise? x) (output (force x))] [else (display x)])) 20:09:03 <eli> rudybot: eval (define (bold xs) (list "*" xs "*")) 20:09:06 <eli> rudybot: eval (output (list "foo" "bar" (bold "baz"))) 20:09:12 <rudybot> eli: ; stdout: "foobar*baz*" 20:09:20 <eli> rudybot: eval (output (list "foo" (bold "bar" (bold "baz")))) 20:09:21 <rudybot> eli: error: procedure bold: expects 1 argument, given 2: "bar" ("*" "baz" "*") 20:09:30 <eli> rudybot: eval (define (bold . xs) (list "*" xs "*")) 20:09:33 <eli> rudybot: eval (output (list "foo" (bold "bar" (bold "baz")))) 20:09:34 <rudybot> eli: ; stdout: "foo*bar*baz**" 20:10:05 <eli> synx: There -- there was no need to allocate a new "*baz*" string, and then use that to allocate "bar*baz*" and then "*bar*baz**" etc. 20:10:35 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 20:11:06 <synx> whatever works then 20:15:08 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:15:19 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [No route to host] 20:18:17 -!- Jarvellis [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:20:33 <synx> What if the thunk returns void? 20:20:44 jonrafkind [n=jon@eng-4-143.hotspot.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 20:21:01 <synx> Oh, what if the thunk errors out? 20:21:05 <synx> That would mean you couldn't display an error document. 20:22:38 <leppie> you display a picture or a popup window instead 20:22:44 <leppie> :) 20:23:06 <synx> Right and I do this on someone else's computer how...? 20:23:17 -!- jewel [n=jewel@] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:23:32 <synx> Maybe the best of both worlds, a special append procedure that produces a list of only strings, and an output procedure to print those lists without non-XML parentheses added in. 20:25:02 synthase [n=synthase@] has joined #scheme 20:28:31 <eli> synx: What's wrong with just letting the error abort the output as usual? 20:30:33 <synx> Oh I was talking to elf the other day about valid documents and such, and elf pointed out that you can send an error document if an error occurs, but not if you already started sending a document. 20:33:06 <eli> Yes, *if* you want to show an error, then you must execute thunks and force promises before you start working on the output. 20:33:31 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:34:29 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["..."] 20:34:44 attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 20:36:54 <synx> Well, I guess it depends on how much I care about the people reading. 20:37:16 -!- reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:37:32 reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw372060.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 20:41:00 <bpalmer> abort the connection! people will figure it out 20:41:54 <synx> danger will robinson! 20:44:30 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.static.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 20:46:33 <Mr-Cat> Is it ok, that in chicken repl when expanding macro with ,x i don't see macro definitions (this macro produces another macros)? 20:48:10 <sjamaan> I think ,x fully expands, no? 20:48:58 <Mr-Cat> Maybe 20:49:41 <sjamaan> I think it wouldn't be much otherwise. What if you have a recursive macro, for example? 20:49:42 <Mr-Cat> it seems to fully expand and eliminate all macro definitions 20:49:57 <sjamaan> s/much/much use/ 20:51:14 <Mr-Cat> sjaaman: Why not. Imho it would be nice if macro _definitions_ (not usages as in your example with recursive macro) were not eliminated. 20:52:49 <sjamaan> I don't know, but you define macros using syntax too 20:52:58 <sjamaan> So maybe that means that those have to disappear also 20:53:05 -!- bzzbzz [n=franco@] has quit ["leaving"] 20:53:16 <sjamaan> It's probably best to ask on the mailinglist 20:55:00 <Mr-Cat> Probably.... 20:55:32 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@eng-4-143.hotspot.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:15:00 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:15:07 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@] has joined #scheme 21:15:32 jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 21:19:15 breily [n=breily@] has joined #scheme 21:19:45 -!- schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A17A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:19:59 meanburrito920_ [n=John@adsl-76-236-76-87.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 21:30:45 -!- ecraven [n=nex@] has quit ["bbl"] 21:31:33 Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has joined #scheme 21:33:01 <Mr-Cat> rudybot: eval (random 3.5) 21:33:02 <rudybot> Mr-Cat: your sandbox is ready 21:33:02 <rudybot> Mr-Cat: error: random: expects argument of type <exact integer in [1, 4294967087] or pseudo-random-generator>; given 3.5 21:33:08 <Mr-Cat> rrrr 21:33:17 <Mr-Cat> rusybot: eval (random) 21:33:21 <Mr-Cat> rudybot: eval (random) 21:33:22 <rudybot> Mr-Cat: ; Value: 0.455434363738249 21:33:23 <Mr-Cat> rudybot: eval (random) 21:33:24 <rudybot> Mr-Cat: ; Value: 0.6962106292629174 21:33:28 <Mr-Cat> aha 21:34:07 mike [n=m@dslb-088-066-234-110.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 21:34:11 <Narrenschiff> A message to you, Rudy? 21:34:33 -!- mike is now known as Guest68080 21:34:43 <Mr-Cat> Ah, chicken seems not to have a floating-point [0, 1) random rrrrrrr 21:34:46 lolcow [n=lolcow@196-210-177-64-wblv-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 21:35:10 <Riastradh> Try SRFI 27, Mr-Cat. 21:35:46 <Mr-Cat> thnx 21:36:45 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:37:59 -!- Guest68080 [n=m@dslb-088-066-234-110.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:38:13 -!- lolcow is now known as leppie 21:39:42 exexex [n=chatzill@] has joined #scheme 21:42:21 -!- Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [] 21:44:08 <Mr-Cat> Good, that srfi-27 offers some simple functions, that can be used without initializing over 9000 random sources, entropies and etc. 21:45:14 Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has joined #scheme 21:45:27 <Mr-Cat> Oh, srfi-27 installation woth chicken-setup fails ( 21:45:43 bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-238-179.dsl.look.ca] has joined #scheme 21:45:52 <Mr-Cat> s/woth/with/ 21:47:57 <lisppaste> Mr_Cat pasted "srfi-27 installation with chicken-setup fails rrrrr this is an error log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/77648 21:48:43 <Mr-Cat> Did anybody come across this error? 21:49:18 borism [n=boris@195-50-204-92-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has joined #scheme 21:59:42 <Mr-Cat> Fortunately gsl-srfi-27 works fine 22:01:34 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 22:12:11 -!- npe [i=npe@dn157-088.naist.jp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:12:23 npe [i=npe@dn157-088.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 22:14:43 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:19:38 -!- wrldpc_ [n=worldpea@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 22:19:41 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [] 22:20:02 gweiqi [n=greg@] has joined #scheme 22:20:29 <synx> dangit I just can't seem to rename url to uri this sucks... 22:20:38 -!- Judofyr [n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:21:02 <synx> stupid magic struct definitions. 22:21:07 Judofyr [n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #scheme 22:21:19 underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 22:22:09 -!- tombom [i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22.2"] 22:24:49 -!- Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:25:40 -!- aaco [n=aaco@unaffiliated/aaco] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29:47 -!- Judofyr [n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:34:45 -!- siloxid` [n=user@rrcs-74-62-20-253.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:38:58 -!- exexex [n=chatzill@] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:42:10 hadronzoo [n=user@ppp-70-250-188-181.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 22:42:50 -!- choas [n=lars@p5B0DC725.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:47:16 Fare [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:54:31 <synx> I'm finding making a copy of an object unusually difficult. 22:55:10 -!- kniu [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:55:31 kniu [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 22:55:54 <Mr-Cat> synx: Is it possible at all? 22:57:37 -!- bweaver [n=user@] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 22:57:38 <synx> Yes, but it's really ugly. You can't use namespaces very well when doing it. 22:58:08 <Mr-Cat> synx: namespaces? Does scheme have them? 22:58:35 <Mr-Cat> Is namespaces a plt-specific feature? 22:58:53 <synx> (struct-copy url obj (query (something))) will fail if the accessors are not specifically named url-scheme url-host, url-query, etc... 22:59:16 -!- dlt_ [n=dlt@] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:59:26 <synx> Mr-Cat: I don't think namespaces are plt-specific. It's the practice of appending a prefix to a name, depending on what module the thing is frome. 22:59:31 <synx> from 23:01:51 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 23:01:55 <Mr-Cat> synx: I'm spoiled with .net and java, so when I hear `namespaces', it's not `just appending' I'm thinking about :) 23:03:30 <synx> Well, I should have said prepending sorry. Hard to 'append' a 'prefix' <.< 23:04:19 -!- Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [] 23:04:42 <Mr-Cat> synx: Well, I've also mixed up `appending' and `prepending' :) 23:05:28 <synx> But what is there to namespaces besides that? 23:05:46 -!- geckosenator [n=sean@] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:06:06 -!- Fare [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:08:43 -!- a-s [n=user@] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:09:23 <Mr-Cat> In .net/java/c++, for example, namespace is a part of a name, but a special part. when you're `inside' a namespace (inside a specially marked region of code) or you don't have to prepend namespace name to names and all defined names automatically belong to the namespace. Outside a namespace you can import it and use all names without prefixes... 23:12:13 <wastrel> this is the scheme channel 23:12:27 <Mr-Cat> really? :) 23:17:02 wrldpc [n=worldpea@ool-ad03fe34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 23:27:41 <Mr-Cat> Is it possible to tweak comments indenting in quack, so that the're indented just like s-exprs 23:27:42 <Mr-Cat> ? 23:28:29 <proq> quack? 23:30:59 <Mr-Cat> That's scheme plugin for emacs: http://www.neilvandyke.org/quack/ 23:33:34 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:39:54 tessier_ [n=treed@kernel-panic/sex-machines] has joined #scheme 23:49:14 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-14-210-146.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:53:26 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.static.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote closed the connection]