00:01:01 yep 00:01:17 not that i know what it is :p 00:01:36 looks good 00:01:37 man setrlimit 00:01:37 http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man2/setrlimit.2.html 00:01:39 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/d6oc6v 00:01:53 cheers elf 00:05:00 hemulen [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:06:18 -!- hemulen [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:07:58 Kusanagi [n=Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 00:09:37 hemulen [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:10:19 saccade_ [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 00:14:11 -!- aaco [n=aaco@unaffiliated/aaco] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:14:17 Riastradh: So, I have this sample RDF file I want to read using Schemantic Web. 00:14:39 I am going by the examples you have in your test cases. 00:14:55 What should I use instead of 'DUMMY-RDF-GRAPH? 00:16:26 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:16:50 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Operation timed out] 00:21:20 Riastradh: Nevermind, I think I get it now. 00:23:10 peter_12 [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 00:24:12 hey arcfide! 00:24:39 bitweiler: Hey. 00:25:22 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:26:12 bitweiler: How is life? 00:30:59 -!- hemulen [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 00:33:41 -!- rdd` [n=rdd@c83-250-154-52.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:43:41 hemulen [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:44:10 -!- wingo--tp [n=wingo@59.Red-79-151-127.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:44:37 -!- singi [n=singi@85.8.10.149.static.se.wasadata.net] has quit ["Lämnar"] 00:48:27 -!- Dawgmatix [n=deep@207-237-30-94.c3-0.avec-ubr11.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 00:49:09 I think the correlation length of identifiers in Scheme is shorter than in other languages. 00:49:32 This is a good thing, and makes the case sensitivity battle even less important. 00:49:47 anyway, time to cook dinner 00:49:54 "correlation length of identifiers"??? 00:56:02 Mr_Awesome [n=eric@isr5452.urh.uiuc.edu] has joined #scheme 00:58:08 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:00:14 HG` [n=wells@222-155-53-2.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 01:07:20 Phew! 01:07:26 I think I have my RDF vocabulary done! 01:07:37 Well, a version 1 at least. 01:13:58 -!- bweaver [n=bweaver@75.148.111.133] has quit [] 01:20:06 mejja [n=user@c-4bb5e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 01:21:54 what's RDF? 01:22:34 ,rubybot RDF 01:24:15 arcfide: oh life is well but tiresome today 01:24:37 bitweiler: http://www.w3.org/RDF/ 01:24:38 mejja, memo from Riastradh: FLO:EXP, FLO:ASIN, and FLO:ACOS should be a trifle faster now. FLO:SIN, FLO:COS, and FLO:TAN require a better approximation than the i387 is easily capable of, and so are better implemented in the microcode, which I may do one of these days. 01:25:16 minion: thank you 01:25:16 you're welcome 01:30:35 thanks mejja ;) 01:31:40 orgy_ [n=ratm_@pD9FFED9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 01:35:03 -!- HG` [n=wells@222-155-53-2.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:35:10 dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-45-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 01:39:58 -!- Rhetosaur [n=heartles@203.97.179.3] has left #scheme 01:40:29 -!- orgy_ [n=ratm_@pD9FFED9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:41:21 gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has joined #scheme 01:47:56 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFE921.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:52:48 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:07:00 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-45-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:08:33 -!- ttmrichter__ [n=ttmricht@221.234.213.35] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 02:08:53 ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@221.234.213.35] has joined #scheme 02:10:12 hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@pool-71-97-52-108.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:13:55 Rhetosaur [n=heartles@203.97.179.3] has joined #scheme 02:23:41 v__ [n=v@119.36.52.179] has joined #scheme 02:24:17 AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable087.62-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 02:24:28 samth [n=samth@c-65-96-163-214.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:24:34 arcfide, what is `an RDF file'? 02:26:26 jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:31:39 Riastradh: Sorry, I figured out how your parsers work. I just had a sample RDF Graph written in Turtle syntax that I wanted to read into some kind of structure using rdf-turtle-parser.ss. 02:31:45 It worked, I'm happy. 02:32:01 Aha! A Turtle file. 02:32:34 Still, I assume there is no way to write the parsed file back out to some standard RDF representation, is there? Turtle would be fine. 02:32:48 Not at the moment. 02:33:35 Alright, fair enough. 02:33:49 Perhaps you can steal Chris's Turtle writer. 02:34:01 Chris's code is where? 02:34:04 ...in MIT Scheme's source tree. 02:34:13 Aaah...that would make it GPL wouldn't it? 02:35:08 It seems pretty straitfoward to write out the triples. 02:36:54 Why is GPL a problem? 02:37:23 mejja: Maybe I don't want to distribute the rest of my code as GPL code? 02:38:23 Then you need a clean room implementation. 02:38:28 While I can incorporate GPL code into GPL compatible code bases, that effectively forces me to also release the entire aggregate product as GPL, and who knows, maybe I would want to opt out of this? 02:38:33 mejja: A clean room? 02:40:53 geckosenator [n=sean@71.237.94.78] has joined #scheme 02:42:30 arcfide: from scratch? 02:43:16 sladegen: What is from scratch? 02:43:22 arcfide: I don't think there's a problem if your code is GPL-compatible, you just dual-license... or does that not fit your purposes? 02:43:49 hkBst: I may, in fact, not wish for the code to be released GPL at all. 02:44:11 Well then, you don't use GPL code. *shrug* 02:44:15 hkBst: And I think GPL tries to say that any combination with its own sources requires it to be GPL. 02:44:21 j85wilson: exactly. ;-) 02:44:24 *sladegen* checks his english dictionary. 02:44:36 no, only GPL compatible 02:44:50 RMS decided that he wanted his code used in a certain way, and not in certain other ways. That's his prerogative. Other programmers have followed suit. 02:45:24 -!- johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 02:45:34 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:45:35 If you don't like that, you can try to recreate their work on your own, or find someone else who has already done so and offers their code under terms that you like more. 02:45:47 Much of the code I write is GPL compatible, but usually it is ISC licensed. However, there are times when I may not wish to release the source code of my applications, in which case having any GPL code in my work causes problems. 02:46:13 j85wilson: I have managed this somewhat well enough so far. 02:46:24 Suppose you like eg the IE rendering engine, and you want to code something based off of it. Well, Steve Ballmer says you can't. So you don't. 02:46:29 arcfide: there is no problem if you don't release. 02:46:43 hkBst: And if I do? 02:47:19 then there is also no problem :D 02:47:30 releasing is better though ;P 02:48:13 why would you not want to release the source code? 02:48:42 geckonsenator: I want to reserve the right to only provide binaries to people. 02:49:10 arcfide: then you get what you deserve 02:49:25 Me, I wouldn't want you using any of my code if you were going to release the end product under a less free license than I released my code to you under. 02:49:29 So I'd GPL my code. 02:49:33 In this time, you could have written a trivial procedure to turn RDF graphs into Turtle files. 02:49:44 :-) Indeed. 02:51:20 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:52:27 Go to comp.lang.scheme. Tell scheme stories. 02:52:31 all of you. 02:52:34 Lemonator [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 02:52:48 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [] 02:57:17 -!- Lemonator [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:57:51 Lemonator [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 02:59:32 yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 03:00:54 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:02:53 j85wilson: what's the point of that? 03:03:19 -!- eli [n=eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:03:21 I'm curious. 03:03:49 eli [n=eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 03:03:51 and I think that people's historical experiences with Scheme are probably valuable for understanding Scheme. 03:04:23 -!- kniu [n=kniu@128.237.224.216] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:05:02 Riastradh: typo in comment; replace 2^(F(x lg e) + I(x lg e)) with 2^(F(x lg e) * 2^I(x lg e)) 03:05:25 j85wilson: why not post that in comp.lang.scheme then? 03:05:34 *j85wilson* blinks 03:05:38 I did... 03:05:53 I was referring people to my post. 03:06:17 oh, the bits are not treating my well today 03:06:28 fair enough. 03:06:36 They are capricious, and ne'er to be trusted. 03:07:04 What? No, that's wrong. In st0 is 2^F(x lg e), and in st1 is I(x lg e); fscale multiplies st0 by 2^st1, so what is put in st0 is 2^F(x lg e) * 2^I(x lg e) = 2^(F(x lg e) * I(x lg e)) = 2^(x lg e) = e^x. 03:07:16 ...um, by the last * I mean +. 03:08:05 I don't think so. the comment is confusing. 03:09:36 There are two sources of confusion: that (FSTP (ST 1)) has the effect of dropping st1 (i.e., it stores st0 in st1 and then pops), and that 2^F(x lg e) * 2^I(x lg e) = 2^(F(x lg e) + I(x lg e)). 03:09:47 I don't think these are seriously confusing. 03:13:31 Right. I misread. 03:14:02 There could perhaps stand to be more parentheses, but that would drive the text rightward, and at the moment it mostly fits nicely within eighty columns. 03:14:17 -!- benny [n=benny@i577A01E7.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:24:05 Cowmoo` [n=Cowmoo@c-98-218-214-24.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:28:29 -!- v__ [n=v@119.36.52.179] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:36:25 Riastradh: "modul system" ;-) 03:37:43 I'm always in favor of (more) parentheses. 03:38:14 rudybot: give j85wilson '((((((((42)))))))) 03:38:15 mejja: your sandbox is ready 03:38:15 j85wilson: mejja has given you a value, say "rudybot: eval (GRAB)" to get it (case sensitive) 03:38:26 ooh, fancy! 03:38:27 -!- foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has quit ["brb"] 03:38:34 rudybot: eval (GRAB) 03:38:35 j85wilson: your sandbox is ready 03:38:35 j85wilson: ; Value: ((((((((42)))))))) 03:38:45 huzzah! More parentheses for my collection. 03:44:09 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-244-202-192.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:44:54 mejja, there's a long way to go before the scare quotes will be permitted to leave... 03:46:56 bhrgunatha [n=chatzill@118-170-39-48.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 03:47:07 -!- bhrgunatha [n=chatzill@118-170-39-48.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:47:58 neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 03:54:15 -!- bitweiler [n=bitweile@adsl-69-155-31-241.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:58:54 foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 04:02:21 underspecified [n=eric@isa7-dhcp-116-127.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 04:04:31 -!- Rhetosaur [n=heartles@203.97.179.3] has left #scheme 04:06:39 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 04:09:51 dsmith [i=ttyzhy27@cpe-71-74-230-225.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:10:29 Fnord. 04:11:33 someone should make a scheme reader in which the symbol fnord is discarded 04:12:05 Huh? Which symbol? 04:12:13 exactly 04:12:48 <3 04:13:08 Now why would the symbol <3 occur in a Scheme program? 04:13:23 woman with a dunce cap? 04:14:03 ...it's a heart 04:14:06  04:14:22 lol woman with a dunce cap 04:14:26 I used to believe it was an icecream 04:14:27 That's one weird creature you've taken a heart from -- it looks like an `a' with a circumflex, a reverse-video Y, and then a yen symbol. 04:14:36 you can use unicode characters in plt scheme identifiers 04:14:39 a true sign of a nerd 04:14:42 <:)3 is a woman in a dunce cap 04:15:26 Riastradh: I'm pretty sure I'm transmitting with utf-8 encoding... 04:18:13 synx: why's she so darned happy? 04:18:58 hello did you not see the size of those gams 04:19:48 U+2665 is cute, but in my darker moods I prefer U+2764 HEAVY BLACK HEART. 04:20:17 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/bdf05a0198.png 04:20:34 plt scheme supports unicode identifiers, of course 04:23:32 rudybot: eval (let (( (lambda (x) (< 3 x)))) ( 8)) 04:23:33 zbigniew: ; Value: #t 04:23:36 That's strange... 04:24:03 Let our powers combine 04:25:11  captures my emotions perfectlly 04:29:31 Is that ARTIST-FORMERLY-KNOWN-AS-PRINCE ? 04:29:58 synx: I believe you meant s/gams/gazongas/ 04:31:35 I assumed he has an amputee fetish. 04:32:43 yeah offby1 sorry about that 04:33:41 How does one go about adding new symbols to unicode anyway? 04:34:19 Politely ask John Cowan, and bake a tasty cake for him to tempt him. 04:34:52 At least, that's what I'd try. I don't know what kind of cake he likes, though. 04:35:19 It might be easier to become an expert in dead languages. 04:44:31 tripwyre [n=sathya@117.193.161.96] has joined #scheme 04:52:03 -!- melgray [n=melgray@70.99.250.82] has quit [] 04:57:36 -!- foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 04:58:49 saccade_ [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 05:01:18 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 05:03:56 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65-78-24-47.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:04:32 For a time I had (define  lambda) in my .guile 05:04:42 but then, guile lets you do strange things like that. 05:05:24 I suppose in another scheme with more sensible macrology, I'd need something with define-syntax instead. 05:05:33 You could certainly do that with define-syntax, if you cared to do so. 05:05:37 That's true in chicken j85wilson 05:06:54 now if only scheme could solve field theory problems for me 05:07:29 https://synx.us.to/code/schememu/chicken/funnylambda.scm 05:07:52 (define-syntax gauge-covariant-derivative mumble) 05:08:26 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:09:22 I glanced at this window, saw `covariant derivative', and thought that I'd find discussion more interesting than what abbreviation to substitute for the name LAMBDA. 05:10:10 tjafk1 [n=timj@e176199119.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:12:06 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:12:43 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 05:13:50 Feel the tension between the two opposing universal forces: the Scheme-style CALL-WITH-CURRENTLY-POPULAR-CONTINUATION-THAT-WILL-BE-PASSE-TOMORROW-ADD-MORE-MODIFIERS-PLEASE-KTHXBYE, and the APL-style (define-syntax &Runes; (syntax-rules () ((&Runes; x y ...) 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05:57:43 if you havent ditributed it, the license is not active yet 05:58:11 ok 05:58:18 one thing I never understood about the GPL... can you include code in a GPL'd project under even less restrictive licensing? 05:58:25 Are you a lawyer, leppie? 05:58:33 synx: yes but then it's all GPL 05:58:37 That I think is true, and would enable some limiting of the viral spread it seems to have. 05:58:54 but say i find a piece of GPL code on the internet, noone can ever take that GPL away 05:59:10 -!- Lemonator [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:59:18 geckosen1tor: Not the code released under a non-GPL license though. 05:59:22 leppie: so I can take any open source project slap a GPL on it and call my lawyers :o 05:59:24 leppie: even the original author? 05:59:27 no Riastradh im not a lawyer, but I have had to deal with this, LGPL is much better IMO 06:00:03 leppie: it's worse :-P 06:00:09 geckosen1tor: you cant revoke the license if the license has been granted to someone else 06:00:26 synx: you have to satisfy both licenses actually 06:00:27 I think you can use LGPL code in your GPL'd project, without violating the GPL. 06:00:28 -!- geckosenator [n=sean@71.237.94.78] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:00:35 but LGPL is not infectuous 06:00:42 infectuous? 06:00:46 Just that anyone using your files that you GPL'd would find themselves in a legal quandary. 06:00:58 geckosen1tor: I don't think the GPL forbids using code that is non-GPL. 06:01:01 synx: you can use BSD in a GPL project too 06:01:14 As long as the source is distributed. 06:01:18 Right geckosen1tor. 06:01:21 yes 06:01:44 -!- neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:02:01 leppie: I argue that LGPL is infectuous actually because it can be used by proprietary 06:02:01 So that means you can use the GPL to protect your open source code, but you're not limited to GPL code. 06:02:27 of course 06:02:28 infectuous, meaning that if you use it, any code that uses it need to be GPL compatible, unlike LGPL, where only derived works need to be still under LGPL 06:02:37 I use the GPL on certain projects, but on files which that project uses that I want to use on many other projects, I release under the WTFPL or something. 06:02:43 GPL protects your code 06:03:04 That way I can have a GPL protected project, while not being required to GPL every single file that I write. 06:03:09 Does `infectuous' mean infectiously fatuous or something? 06:03:52 so example, I have a library, but I dont mind it being used by anyone, LGPL is good for me, as if someone extends my library, it needs to be LGPL too, but that cant work with normal GPL 06:04:05 synx: you can always add a clause to an individual file that is under GPL giving it other rules 06:04:23 synx: they do this for the code to libgcc 06:05:52 Riastradh: something ;) 06:06:00 I was under the wrong impression for a while geckosen1tor, so I think it important that people understand that about the GPL lest they get scared away by it. 06:06:07 i dont know what fatuous means :) 06:06:20 Just curious -- have you folks read the entire text of the GPL, and of the LGPL? 06:07:06 long time ago, so version 2 still, not version 3, not sure what has changed, except that I heard they tightened up some loopholes 06:07:49 I read through version 3 pretty carefully Riastradh. It's neat how it has anti-DMCA measures in it. 06:08:02 Not so much the LGPL though I never use that one. 06:12:01 it's too bad they have to add clauses to it to make it do the same thing 06:12:54 thats not the point, they normally add clauses to specifically allow not to do something else :) 06:13:40 Lemonator [n=kniu@128.237.238.25] has joined #scheme 06:14:17 off to boring work :( cheers 06:16:13 -!- exexex [n=chatzill@88.235.94.217] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:16:43 -!- Rhetosaur [n=heartles@118-93-186-193.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [] 06:17:23 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 06:20:41 exexex [n=chatzill@88.235.94.217] has joined #scheme 06:22:35 -!- hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@pool-71-97-52-108.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 06:23:07 -!- Cowmoo` [n=Cowmoo@c-98-218-214-24.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #scheme 06:25:44 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit 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error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:31:13 actually you aren't even using that 17:34:36 synthasee [n=synthase@68.63.48.10] has joined #scheme 17:36:09 -!- Fare [n=Fare@c-98-216-111-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:36:57 jonrafkind, x is an identifier and identifier is symbol i thought that way 17:37:22 'x is, but '('x) is nonsense 17:38:24 nonsense wrt who? 17:38:29 '('x) looks fine to me 17:39:13 melgray [n=melgray@70.99.250.82] has joined #scheme 17:39:17 http://paste.org/5571 17:39:25 Cheshire, it gives error 17:39:45 wrt to what hes trying to do 17:39:52 berat why don't you use the code from the book? 17:39:57 and try the sample input from the book 17:39:57 -!- synthase [n=synthase@68.63.48.10] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:40:49 because this is not in the book 17:40:54 yes it is 17:42:15 rudybot: eval '('x) 17:42:16 *offby1: your r5rs sandbox is ready 17:42:16 *offby1: ; Value: {{quote x}} 17:42:29 rudybot: init scheme 17:42:30 *offby1: your scheme sandbox is ready 17:42:32 rudybot: eval '('x) 17:42:33 *offby1: ; Value: ((quote x)) 17:42:40 silly curly braces. 17:43:17 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 17:44:48 offby1, my schem is plai scheme 17:45:01 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 17:45:31 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Client Quit] 17:47:32 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 17:56:40 kryptiskt_ [n=irc@cust-IP-129.data.tre.se] has joined #scheme 18:01:17 ASau [n=user@193.138.70.52] has joined #scheme 18:04:04 i wrote parse method can you check it this is okey 18:04:10 http://paste.org/5575 18:08:40 eqv? and equal? are the same function 18:09:02 eq? is good for symbols 18:09:23 ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has joined #scheme 18:09:44 leppie, do you know lambda calculus 18:09:50 equals? is very slow compared to eqv? which is quite slow compared to eq? 18:09:59 jah [n=jah@176.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #scheme 18:10:22 berat: only as much as Scheme has taught me 18:10:54 you know bound and free variables in lambda calculus 18:11:20 if they are the same as in Scheme , yes 18:12:09 (lambda x (y x)) 18:12:16 y is free variable x is bound 18:12:19 yes 18:12:32 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.static.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 18:12:35 or 18:13:01 (lambda x (lambda y (lambda z ((z y) m))))) 18:13:06 m is also free right 18:13:31 m and y is free in the innermost lambda 18:14:15 (lambda x ((lambda m m) m)) 18:14:33 m is free in outer lamnda 18:14:36 ^ is bound 18:14:42 ^ is free 18:14:56 but they are not the same m 18:15:07 m is bound ? 18:15:39 or free 18:16:01 normal alpha (i think) conversion will happen as the first step, so that will be transformed to (lambda x1 ((lambda m2 m2) m1)) for example 18:16:13 now it's easy to see :) 18:16:43 but taht method will fail, bad example Cheshire :p 18:16:44 i have to write some function that say it is bound or free 18:16:48 How can i do that 18:16:51 what? 18:17:31 what can m possibly be so it will return a procedure, but you return a list! 18:18:11 (lambda x ((lambda (m) m) m)) could work 18:18:12 Cheshire, http://paste.org/5577 i coded this 18:18:31 for example (lambda x(lambda y (z x))) 18:18:40 z is free x is bound variable 18:18:51 and i must write a function that say that 18:18:57 berat, this example: 18:18:59 (lambda x ((lambda m m) m)) 18:19:00 i suggest you do alpha conversion, then it will be easier to do programmatically 18:19:17 berat, there are two different 'm', just saying m is not enough, you have to say which one 18:19:24 alpha conversation is reduction method ? 18:19:33 no, not really 18:19:53 hmm i look lambda calculus and it say alpha reduction 18:20:02 but i think they refer to it sometimes as alpha reduction (i can be completely wrong) 18:20:04 may be alpha conversation is different i dont know 18:20:36 m is bound variable Cheshire right ? 18:20:40 alpha conversion simply renaming variables, so there is no 'shadowing' of variables 18:20:44 berat, which m? 18:20:50 all m 18:20:56 bounded by lambda 18:21:00 berat, one if free, the other one is bound 18:21:02 may be i am wrong 18:21:19 i think outside m is free 18:21:25 yes 18:21:58 but how can i write this how can i say m is free and other m is bound 18:23:09 is this homework or just for fun (meaning you can use anything) ? 18:23:19 or willing to use anything 18:24:59 -!- foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 18:26:51 just for fun actually 18:26:56 but i dont have a fun 18:26:56 :D 18:27:15 and learn to use plai scheme thing and lambda calculus 18:28:02 if you wanna burst your brain, look an implementation of syntax-case, as it provides the free-identifier=? and bound-identifier=? predicates 18:31:06 langmartin [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 18:32:16 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-229.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:33:10 leppie i actually some codes 18:33:54 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit ["bbl"] 18:33:57 -!- neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:33:58 error: verb 'some' does not comprehend 18:34:38 o sorryh 18:34:39 :d 18:35:03 i wrote some codes but i cant work it.I am not sure hoe to work it.Here http://paste.org/5578 18:36:36 jonaskoelker [n=jonas@ip-30-5.bnaa.dk] has joined #scheme 18:36:58 Hi all. I'm trying to learn mzscheme. I get this error when I run mzscheme (with no args): http://rafb.net/p/ykQ5T859.html -- what gives? 18:37:12 that ain't no way to treat a new user ;-) 18:37:30 saying mzscheme can't find scheme (apparently) 18:38:18 jonaskoelker: have you installed mzschee on debian or ubuntu? 18:38:22 ubuntu 18:38:45 -!- reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:38:50 that's pretty broken, you should install drscheme to get all the libraries 18:39:16 reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:39:25 hm 18:39:30 or better yet, download it from PLT directly, it's much newer 18:40:04 what's the major new features of interest to someone who's just starting (for the third time :D) to learn scheme? 18:42:00 how do you go about learning a new language? What keeps you motivated? 18:43:10 jonaskoelker: IIRC, there was something broken with the ubuntu package -- you should try to get it from the PLT site (plt-scheme.org) 18:43:26 group pressure, eh? ;-) 18:43:41 jonaskoelker: And by "new features" are you asking about the new features of the current release (4.1.4) vs the one you have (4.0)? 18:43:48 yeah 18:43:53 other than "it works" :D 18:44:01 Well, there's not much more than "it works". 18:44:09 I'm sold 18:44:11 (why is it that ubuntu has such a terrible track record with keeping scheme packages up to date?) 18:44:54 because real men use C and they want to prove their gender identity to the world because they're uncertain themselves? 18:44:54 jonaskoelker: Actually, the ubuntu brokenness is unrelated -- the PLT distribution worked in 4.0 too -- so if you really want 4.0, you can get it (from the same place). 18:45:06 -!- JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@fq-wireless-pittnet-185.wireless.pitt.edu] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 18:45:11 that is to say, I don't know 18:45:48 well, I can load up the intepreter 18:45:54 with the ubuntu pkg 18:46:01 plt-scheme, I think 18:46:09 (drscheme is a transitional pkg) 18:46:14 leppie: there is no reason for `equal?' to be *much* slower than `eq?' when you're comparing symbols. It's likely one or two more assembly-level comparisons. 18:46:55 jonaskoelker: `drscheme' is how they called it a while ago, when they were trying to have a smaller `mzscheme' package. 18:47:52 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 18:48:35 eli: true :) 18:49:41 leppie: More specifically, it means that it's usually a good idea to use `=' when you're comparing numbers (unless you really mean `eq?', or unless that minor addition make things visibly slower...) 18:50:13 comparing numbers with eq? ??? 18:50:30 did someone look at my code ? 18:51:17 leppie: Yes, it's common enough when "small integers" are involved. 18:51:34 still there is no gaurentee 18:52:03 rudybot: eval (eq? 1.0 1) 18:52:04 leppie: your sandbox is ready 18:52:04 leppie: ; Value: #f 18:52:31 it's common enough to have a guarantee in the form of working with a single implementation (or a few). 18:52:34 (define (=? x y) #t) 18:52:46 leppie: (BTW, note that I did say small *integers*) 18:53:01 rudybot: eval (integer? 1.0) 18:53:02 leppie: ; Value: #t 18:53:14 :) 18:53:26 i know what you mean :) 18:53:28 the fastest equating predicate ever! 18:54:12 (define (equal-hash o) 1) 18:54:56 rudybot: eval (eq? (exact 1.0) 1) 18:54:57 You're all optimizing the language in very weak ways. 18:54:57 leppie: error: reference to undefined identifier: exact 18:55:06 (define (eval expr) 'ok) 18:55:10 rudybot: eval (eq? (inexact->exact 1.0) 1) 18:55:11 *That's* an optimization. 18:55:11 leppie: ; Value: #t 18:55:23 BeS [i=schiesbn@HSI-KBW-078-043-001-009.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #scheme 18:55:43 *sladegen* hehs. 18:55:46 (define (eval . idontcare) 'profit) 18:56:18 (That's the commercial version of the, uh, optimized compiler.) 18:57:02 schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A0A19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:57:11 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:57:14 -!- BeS [i=schiesbn@HSI-KBW-078-043-001-009.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has left #scheme 18:58:01 good luck building a module system without the use of eval 18:59:41 can i ask a question 19:00:42 http://paste.org/5579 pls someone look this give false result i think but i cannot know why it gave wrong result 19:04:06 bye 19:06:59 -!- berat [n=berat@d-stu.ibun.edu.tr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:11:53 -!- ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:13:14 question sniper 19:14:32 eli: do you know any way to increase the memory limit for the VM used to build collections in 'make install' in the PLT source build? 19:15:02 eli: because mine died when i still had some swap left (I think) 19:17:23 -!- hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-251-242-10.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 19:18:01 -!- AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable087.62-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["!"] 19:18:33 -!- cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:19:33 rudybot: eval (= 884279719003555/281474976710656+.0i (angle -1)) 19:19:34 leppie: ; Value: #t 19:19:39 what's setenv called in plt scheme, and where do I import it from? 19:21:01 what is setenv? 19:21:11 sets an environment variable 19:21:17 oh ok 19:21:20 setenv(3) 19:21:23 M-x setenv 19:21:40 what is an environment variable? 19:21:46 in the OS 19:21:50 yeah 19:21:51 what distinguishes an environment variable from any other variable? 19:22:03 elf: what OS are you on? 19:22:29 *elf* scopes out the problem of environmentless variables. 19:22:30 $ echo $PATH # <--- path is an env. variable 19:23:09 putenv 19:23:47 ah, thanks 19:23:49 (leppie, its not at OS level. you should know better. its 3, not 2.) 19:23:56 mzscheme seems to not respect my $BROWSER 19:24:01 Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 19:24:08 that is, it opens (help "help") in firefox, not w3m 19:24:44 annodomini [n=lambda@130.189.179.215] has joined #scheme 19:24:44 2 3 wtf is that? 19:24:46 mornin fare. 19:25:01 leppie : linux man page convention. 2 is syscalls, 3 is libcalls. 19:25:03 i have never done linux programming or scripting 19:25:05 elf: ltns. How are you doing these days? 19:25:13 fare: havent died. yourself? 19:25:18 still alive 19:25:20 so it still is provided on the OS-level 19:25:25 leppie: it is not. 19:25:35 how do I make mzscheme open (help "...") in a browser of my choosing? 19:25:54 it sure is not coming from Scheme, perhaps the on the parent process level? 19:26:32 Env vars are part of the system ABI 19:27:02 *leppie* is confused 19:27:04 They're put there by the loader, I think 19:27:21 jonaskoelker, doesn't the help include dynamically-generated content depending on module documentation? 19:27:33 Fare: could be 19:27:39 leppie: The system ABI specifies where on the stack a program can find the env var strings 19:27:53 (or if it's on the stack at all, for that matter) 19:27:58 jonaskoelker, you might have to not only be able to run an external program (not that hard) but to generate dynamic web content with the PLT Web Server, for that 19:28:01 Fare: I don't know, and I don't see how that could influence how it decides which client I should view the docs with... 19:28:04 (environ is populated by exec(3) 19:28:20 so it's process level 19:28:23 yeah. 19:28:25 jonaskoelker, it decides that it's easier to bypass dynamic web page generation 19:28:37 and have integrated help 19:28:40 so the os is involved in the sense of setting up the tables, but it really is mostly at lib level. 19:28:47 right 19:28:53 Fare: integrated == open in firefox? 19:29:06 Fare: if so, why does it use firefox rather than $BROWSER? 19:29:13 integrated == no HTML involved. Directly draw the window. 19:29:22 uh? 19:29:46 if it uses firefox -- grep the source 19:29:48 (the actual execve syscall gets the env array as an arg.) 19:29:54 -.- 19:30:20 it might be using xdg-open 19:30:26 that disrespects $BROWSER too :( 19:30:52 jonaskoelker: look for update-browser-preference 19:31:05 kryptiskt_: look where? 19:31:31 in the documentation 19:32:06 http://docs.plt-scheme.org/search/index.html?q=browser%20prefrence -- no matches :( 19:32:50 elf: Yeah, I think the kernel chooses the right loader and then passes the env to the loader, which then lays out the stack 19:36:54 jonaskoelker: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/browser/index.html#(def._((lib._browser/external..ss)._update-browser-preference)) 19:37:21 -!- mmc [n=mima@gw1.teleca.fi] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:38:30 though, I wonder if there shouldn't be a switch in DrScheme for that 19:38:40 almost has to be 19:40:27 and I found out -- great fun -- that I have to run update-browser-preference in mred 19:41:33 does "the standard library" come with a function mapping (n . m) to (list n (+ 1 n) (+ 2 n) ... m)? 19:41:45 (i.e. haskell's enumFromTo) 19:42:36 SRFI-1 defines a IOTA procedure that may be what you want 19:43:44 zane [n=user@129.10.235.131] has joined #scheme 19:48:03 Fulax [n=cyprien@pdpc/supporter/student/cnicolas] has joined #scheme 19:48:16 yep, that's it. Thanks, sjamaan 19:48:26 yw 19:50:17 pfo [n=pfo@chello084114049188.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #scheme 19:51:16 hemulen_ [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 19:52:23 -!- hemulen [n=hemulen@99-7-171-19.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:53:36 -!- schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A0A19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:54:29 -!- borism_ [n=boris@195-50-200-227-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has quit ["leaving"] 19:54:46 borism [n=boris@195-50-200-227-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has joined #scheme 19:58:15 incubot [i=incubot@klutometis.wikitex.org] has joined #scheme 19:58:41 incubot: i had to downgrade to chicken 3.4.0, and feel like luke skywalker; but maybe it worked 19:58:44 skywalker :D 19:58:46 yeah 19:59:15 i wonder if google resolved it that way too :p 19:59:26 reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 19:59:37 -!- reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:59:42 sepult [n=buggarag@xdsl-81-173-129-237.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:00:35 -!- aaco [n=aaco@unaffiliated/aaco] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:01:11 incubot: aRE YOU CASE-SENSITIVE? 20:01:14 Every time I think I've got it down straight, and think that I've got a set of tests that'll nail it down, blammo - apparently I've misunderstood /everything/: it doesn't work that way. The tests are screwed up. Heisenburg is involved somehow. There are browser issues. The issues are sensitive to which pages are loaded, or the time of the day, or the phase of the moon. Wait, no - the tests aren't wrong, *I'm* wrong. 20:02:00 incubot: 42 20:02:14 that one still confuses him 20:02:29 incubot: 420 20:02:42 incubot: 4200 20:02:54 incubot: help? 20:02:57 In fact, you can always find counter-example where bibop won't help a bit. 20:03:14 incubot: fortytwo 20:03:48 incubot: Fnord! 20:03:50 you probably need someone to help you translate lots of things, specially to comunicate, the population that speaks english is much smaller than it seems. 20:04:40 error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 20:04:46 incubot: (define answer-to-life-the-universe-and-everything 42) answer-to-life-the-universe-and-everything 20:04:46 42 20:09:12 I thought incubot just pretended to eval 20:12:53 -!- reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:17:31 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:19:34 -!- hemulen_ is now known as hemulen 20:19:47 neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 20:22:34 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:24:53 jao [n=jao@250.Red-79-155-245.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:29:27 Cheshire: yes, but the fiction is so complete that it often reflects reality 20:30:23 it's a meditation on nietzsche's "unwahrheit als lebensbedingung" 20:31:17 incubot: i once aspired to nietzsche's moustache; then i realized that such a moustache is a necessary but not sufficient condition for genius 20:31:20 on slashdot "From the article: "Although Perl 5's expressions are the most sophisticated available and aspired to by other programming languages, "no one pretends for a moment that they're anything but hideously ugly," said Damian Conway" heh 20:31:27 -!- amoe [n=amoe@cpc1-brig3-0-0-cust512.brig.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["leaving"] 20:31:41 JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@c-67-186-56-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:32:13 -!- JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@c-67-186-56-85.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:33:00 the best thing about the mustachioed Nietzsche is that most of his pictures were taken post decline 20:33:30 ILC 2009 is open for early registration 20:40:28 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-186-123.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:40:33 -!- jah [n=jah@176.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 20:44:09 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 20:54:48 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:56:43 kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has joined #scheme 20:59:30 -!- neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:01:03 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 21:09:05 minion: source 21:09:06 Sorry, I couldn't find anything in the database for ``source''. 21:19:24 -!- zane [n=user@129.10.235.131] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:21:56 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 21:23:31 civodul [n=user@reverse-83.fdn.fr] has joined #scheme 21:24:10 CowboyBA [n=cowboy@static-68-236-120-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:24:22 yo dawg i herd you liked scheme so i (define scheme (lambda (n) (scheme (n))))) so you can scheme while you scheme 21:24:39 thanks 21:24:55 yw! 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