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I use Transient Mark Mode, by the way. 04:29:45 jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:30:13 oh ok thanks ill look that up 04:30:15 Riastradh: ping 04:30:37 *jcowan* unvanishes, just to keep in practice. 04:33:53 jcowan: SYN/ACK 04:34:27 Can I interest you in my incredibly arcane inquiry tonight, when perhaps you are less distracted? 04:35:26 I'm about to go to bed, I'm afraid. 04:35:51 Ah. ANother time, then. 04:43:34 -!- a-s [n=user@92.82.181.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:43:44 underspecified [n=eric@isa7-dhcp-116-154.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 04:51:13 ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has joined #scheme 04:51:30 -!- cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:58:24 -!- nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12-226-78-3.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:59:01 -!- gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has left #scheme 04:59:40 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 05:00:04 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:03:06 -!- banisterfiend is now known as banister` 05:03:42 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #scheme 05:04:08 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:08:08 ejs [n=eugen@94-248-12-208.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 05:10:11 tjafk2 [n=timj@e176194032.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:25:01 incubot: python is such a primitive piece of shit 05:25:03 #11901: You can't just make shit up and expect the computer to know what you mean, Retardo! 05:25:08 who has to hard code a notion of "class"? 05:25:28 incubot: i feel like scotty in star trek iv: "hello, computer?" 05:25:30 Seriously. Haven't you learned the Scotty Lesson(tm)? 05:25:35 i guess not 05:25:43 araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 05:27:32 -!- tjafk1 [n=timj@85.176.208.27] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:28:33 incubot: and to top things off, Riastradh is a reincarnation of spock 05:28:35 I think Riastradh is the reincarnation of an 18th-century literary gentleman 05:28:48 not mutually exclusive 05:33:05 *klutometis* thinks that exchange damn near passed turing 05:38:44 Quite. 05:39:38 drdo` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 05:42:25 -!- ejs [n=eugen@94-248-12-208.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:46:22 segun [n=segun@62.173.50.60] has joined #scheme 05:52:25 geckosenator [n=sean@adsl-68-23-87-156.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #scheme 05:54:36 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:56:32 well, when your closures are barely-adequate one-liners, and your language is 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 17:00:25 -!- tizoc [n=user@r190-133-132-127.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:00:29 -!- langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has left #scheme 17:01:03 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 17:01:29 offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 17:03:48 langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 17:06:09 offby1: Did you see my new tricks? 17:06:41 yep 17:07:03 well, I saw your note about "notification" anyway. But there's something broken on my box so I wasn't able to get it working ;-( 17:07:16 Oh, there's much more than that now. 17:07:22 *eli* demonstrates 17:07:31 newrudybot: apropos set-c 17:07:31 *eli: no matches found 17:07:36 newrudybot: apropos set-mc 17:07:36 *eli: matches: set-mcar!, set-mcdr!. 17:07:51 newrudybot: desc sort 17:07:51 *eli: `sort' is a bound identifier, defined in "scheme/private/list.ss" required through "scheme/main.ss" 17:07:59 golly! 17:08:00 newrudybot: doc sort 17:08:00 *eli: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference%2Fpairs.html#(def._((lib._scheme%2Fbase..ss)._sort)) 17:08:24 you're doing this with an educator's mindset. Hurrah 17:08:25 (And I did the git-version-reloading thing.) 17:08:50 hmm 17:08:53 newrudybot: init r5rs 17:08:54 offby1: your sandbox is ready 17:08:56 Yeah, it's even useful now for general hacking... 17:08:58 newrudybot: apropos set-c 17:08:58 offby1: matches: set-car!, set-cdr!. 17:09:02 ha! 17:09:04 nicely done. 17:09:13 Exactly... I was about to show that off too... 17:09:17 newrudybot: help 17:09:17 offby1: help [], version, quote, source, seen , uptime, init [], eval ..., give ..., apropos ..., desc , doc 17:09:24 Oh, and one more thing: 17:09:32 newrudybot: help set-car! 17:09:32 *eli: help [], version, quote, source, seen , uptime, init [], eval ..., give ..., apropos ..., desc , doc , authenticate [], join , part , for ..., system ..., top-eval ... 17:09:37 newrudybot: doc set-car! 17:09:37 *eli: error: link: namespace mismatch; reference (phase 0) to a module "/home/scheme/plt/collects/errortrace/errortrace-key.ss" that is not available (phase level 0); reference appears in module: #f in: errortrace-key 17:09:45 mm hmm 17:09:45 Ooh 17:09:58 It's running from the nightly build so it needs restarting. 17:10:06 -!- newrudybot [n=luser@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:10:06 eno__ [n=eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #scheme 17:10:15 djjack [n=djjack@cpe-098-026-016-166.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:10:35 newrudybot [n=luser@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 17:10:41 newrudybot: doc set-car! 17:10:43 *eli: error: link: namespace mismatch; reference (phase 0) to a module "/home/scheme/plt/collects/errortrace/errortrace-key.ss" that is not available (phase level 0); reference appears in module: #f in: errortrace-key 17:10:57 Bah. I'll need to fix that 17:10:58 -!- langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:11:02 Anyway, 17:11:07 newrudybot: doc begin 17:11:08 *eli: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference%2Fbegin.html#(form._((quote._~23~25kernel)._begin)) 17:11:08 langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 17:11:16 luz [n=davids@139.82.89.70] has joined #scheme 17:11:17 newrudybot: for offby1 init r5rs 17:11:17 *offby1: your sandbox is ready 17:11:23 *gasp* 17:11:30 I hope _I_ can't do that to _you_ 17:11:32 newrudybot: for offby1 doc begin 17:11:32 *offby1: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/r5rs-std%2Fr5rs-Z-H-7.html#%25_idx_138 17:11:36 newrudybot: for eli init r5rs 17:11:36 offby1: ? 17:11:39 good 17:11:41 -!- eno__ is now known as eno 17:11:43 No, of course not. 17:11:45 r6rs mode too? 17:11:57 It's useful for cases where you want to tell someone to do something. 17:12:12 (I should also make it not think that the for-ed person is a master...) 17:12:20 eli: make me a sandwich 17:12:32 hmm, it's not working 17:12:35 eli: sudo make me a sandwich 17:12:35 But note also that the doc page is for the r5rs begin -- so that's language sensitive too. 17:12:37 you need sudo 17:12:42 chupish: :) 17:12:46 newrudybot: for offby1 say "Make me a sandwich" 17:12:46 mbishop: ? 17:12:54 newrudybot: ? 17:12:54 mbishop: ? 17:12:56 newrudybot: ? 17:12:56 mbishop: ? 17:12:56 newrudybot: for mbishop, throw my dentures 17:12:57 offby1: ? 17:12:57 rudybot: for offby1 system make sandwich 17:12:57 eli: ? 17:13:02 ? 17:13:04 :p 17:13:10 rudybot: feeling left out? 17:13:10 offby1: ? 17:13:12 -!- djjack [n=djjack@cpe-098-026-016-166.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:13:19 where is interrobang when you need it... ;-) 17:13:21 leppie: should work. 17:13:21 newrudybot: question mark 17:13:21 mbishop: ? 17:13:27 newrudybot: for offby1 system make sandwich 17:13:27 *offby1: /bin/sh: make: No such file or directory 17:13:35 newrudybot: init r6rs 17:13:35 *eli: error: r6rs: must contain a `library' form (for a library) or start with `import' (for a top-level program) in: (#%module-begin) 17:13:47 leppie: No, I take that back. 17:13:56 newrudybot: doc cons 17:13:56 *eli: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference%2Fpairs.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._cons)) 17:14:10 newrudybot: init r6rs (import (rnrs)) 17:14:11 leppie: expecting: init [] 17:14:16 -!- dzhus [n=sphinx@93.81.190.55] has quit ["-_-"] 17:14:28 eli: he prefaced _my_ nick with an asterisk :-( 17:14:32 leppie: I'll make that work later. 17:14:51 offby1: Yes, I know -- I need to fix that. (But it's harmless, since only I can do stuff for you.) 17:14:54 it will probably work by just adding the defualt import 17:15:00 eli: one of these days you need to sign up with github or something. 17:15:46 newrudybot: doc set-cdr! 17:15:46 *eli: error: link: namespace mismatch; reference (phase 0) to a module "/home/scheme/plt/collects/errortrace/errortrace-key.ss" that is not available (phase level 0); reference appears in module: #f in: errortrace-key 17:15:56 newrudybot: init r5rs 17:15:57 *eli: your sandbox is ready 17:15:59 newrudybot: init 17:15:59 *eli: your sandbox is ready 17:16:02 newrudybot: doc set-cdr! 17:16:02 *eli: error: link: namespace mismatch; reference (phase 0) to a module "/home/scheme/plt/collects/errortrace/errortrace-key.ss" that is not available (phase level 0); reference appears in module: #f in: errortrace-key 17:16:21 Bah, I swear I've seen it work... 17:16:23 well, I gotta head off to work 17:16:38 I have to run too -- I'll put patches up later today. 17:16:40 eli: OK, for post-doctorate credit: think of a clean way to test this thing. 17:16:47 athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has joined #scheme 17:17:07 eli, can't the error come from the fact set-cdr! isn't defined in the default sandbox ? 17:17:25 newrudybot, doc set-mcdr! 17:17:25 Fulax: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference%2Fmpairs.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._set-mcdr!)) 17:17:27 offby1: That's easy: (1) find an eager student, (2) assign boring task, (3) profit. 17:17:29 :) 17:17:57 Fulax: Yes, but there's code there that will say somethiing like "set-cdr! not found, but there's one defined in that other module". 17:18:04 newrudybot: doc make-hash-table 17:18:05 *eli: error: link: namespace mismatch; reference (phase 0) to a module "/home/scheme/plt/collects/errortrace/errortrace-key.ss" that is not available (phase level 0); reference appears in module: #f in: errortrace-key 17:18:13 I see 17:18:15 And that code is having issues. 17:18:27 -!- alaricsp [n=alaricsp@88-105-142-50.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 17:18:38 newrudybot, doc symbol 17:18:38 Fulax: error: link: namespace mismatch; reference (phase 0) to a module "/home/scheme/plt/collects/errortrace/errortrace-key.ss" that is not available (phase level 0); reference appears in module: #f in: errortrace-key 17:18:51 This is basically code from MzScheme -- just run mzshceme and type (help set-cdr!) 17:19:06 newrudybot, eval (help set-cdr!) 17:19:06 Fulax: error: reference to undefined identifier: help 17:19:13 newrudybot: for Fulax do apropos symbol 17:19:13 *Fulax: ? 17:19:17 -!- synthase [n=synthase@c-69-243-234-165.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:19:21 newrudybot: for Fulax apropos symbol 17:19:22 *Fulax: matches: char-symbolic?, namespace-mapped-symbols, namespace-symbol->identifier, pretty-print-.-symbol-without-bars, string->symbol, string->uninterned-symbol, symbol->string, symbol=?, symbol?, symbols, syntax-property-symbol-keys. 17:19:38 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:20:03 newrudybot, apropos fifo 17:20:03 Fulax: no matches found 17:20:58 Nice :) 17:21:08 that's good job eli 17:21:56 -!- incubot [n=incubot@66-215-93-47.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:22:09 -!- pmatos [n=pmatos@pocm06r.ecs.soton.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:25:50 incubot [n=incubot@66-215-93-47.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined #scheme 17:31:17 eli: ping 17:33:24 samth: pong 17:33:30 samth: I just replied to you. 17:40:13 jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:43:40 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-69.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:48:53 djjack [n=djjack@cpe-098-026-016-166.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 17:50:14 -!- djjack [n=djjack@cpe-098-026-016-166.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:50:38 -!- wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has quit ["bye now"] 17:51:59 -!- samth [n=samth@punge.ccs.neu.edu] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:52:17 samth [n=samth@punge.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 17:54:49 -!- Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:05:44 -!- Daemmerung [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08:34 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.162.53] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:14:10 Daemmerung [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has joined #scheme 18:23:17 pjb3 [n=pjb3@dsl092-166-158.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 18:31:40 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 18:31:57 -!- Daemmerung [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:38:37 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:44:17 -!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:53:50 -!- maskd [i=maskd@unaffiliated/maskd] has quit ["leaving"] 18:57:50 leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.162.53] has joined #scheme 18:59:02 melito [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has joined #scheme 19:04:47 patmaddox [n=pergesu@ip68-4-201-9.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 19:06:35 antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 19:08:10 -!- Guest24 [n=mike@p54A1CFCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:12:39 austin2 [n=austinfl@c-98-230-14-105.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:13:03 dboswell [n=user@lexx.daves.net] has joined #scheme 19:14:57 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 19:16:22 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.162.53] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:16:48 hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B056363.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:16:57 leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.162.53] has joined #scheme 19:19:13 -!- austin2 [n=austinfl@c-98-230-14-105.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:19:22 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:22:38 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.162.53] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:22:38 lolcow [n=lolcow@196.210.162.53] has joined #scheme 19:23:27 tr3 [n=tr3@host28-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 19:26:02 Mr-Cat [n=Miranda@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 19:33:15 -!- lolcow is now known as leppie 19:35:19 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Miranda@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:43:30 Riastradh: you around? 19:44:16 Maybe. 19:44:45 Riastradh: I have a question about WITH-TEST-SUITE-RUN in s48-test.scm. 19:45:02 Ask it. 19:45:18 It seems that you specifically want to modify the parameters' values permanently if (TESTING-SUITE?) is true, right? 19:46:21 Roughly, yes. More precisely, I want to reflect the results in the enclosing test suite run. 19:46:26 Hence, you did not wrap the entire thing in a fluid bind, but used box values as initials for just this test, then ran the tests with these parameters, before exiting out an regrabbing the value for possible addition into the parameters at the level of the continuation of the WITH-TEST-SUITE-RUN invocation, yes? 19:46:38 Aaah, yes, okay. 19:47:00 But it is important to run the thunk with the 0 and nil starting values, right? 19:47:08 Hence the need for the FLUID-BIND. 19:47:50 Exercise: What is different if I define WITH-TEST-SUITE-RUN just to call THUNK if we are currently testing a suite, and to make fluid bindings only if we are not currently testing a suite? 19:48:00 I had initially just used parameters instead of parameters with boxes, so I guess that was wrong. 19:48:38 The code in the dynamic extent of the fluid bindings informs the binder of the passages and failures by mutation. 19:48:48 If you have mutable parameters, you may use those. 19:48:53 arcfide: porting trc-testing? 19:49:00 rotty: Yes. 19:49:17 Riastradh: Well, I have mutable parameters, if we are talking about the same thing. 19:49:25 I'm not sure how they would be used here.... 19:49:47 If I understand what this code is supposed to do, I think I need to use a box as the parameter's value. 19:49:51 It will suffice here to map `fluid containing a cell' to `mutable parameter'. 19:50:02 arcfide: no, you need cells at that place, see http://rottyforge.yi.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=spells;a=headblob;f=/libraries/testing/parameters.sls 19:50:03 -newrudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/cparyp 19:50:03 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/cparyp 19:50:27 Ack! Rudy is breeding! 19:51:05 rotty, why did you change the extent of WITH-TEST-NOTIFICATION in WITH-TEST-SUITE-RUN? 19:51:46 Riastradh: oh, i thought I fixed that 19:51:51 lemme check 19:51:55 Riastradh: sorry, I am not seeing how to do this with just parameters...hang on a sec. 19:52:31 arcfide, see mit-test.scm; mutable parameters correspond with mutable globals, PARAMETRIZE with FLUID-LET, and ( ) with (SET! ). 19:53:54 (What lexicographical nitwit decided that `get' and `put' are good substitutes for `read' and `write'?) 19:54:26 probably the same who made getc/putc 19:55:13 arcfide: must have underwent binary fission, unless sarahbot is lurking somewhere 19:55:39 Riastradh: I don't see what you mean -- AFAICS, my code is identical with your s48-test.scm, except for FLUID-BIND -> PARAMETERIZE 19:55:40 arcfide pasted "Chez Version of WITH-TEST-SUITE-RUN" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74438 19:55:51 Riastradh: It seems that I must do it that way to get the same behavior. 19:55:53 mejja [n=user@c-4bb5e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 19:56:05 arcfide, did you look at mit-test.scm? 19:56:13 No cells are involved there. 19:56:20 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFE7B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Gone."] 19:56:28 orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFE7B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:56:42 rotty, oops. Perhaps I have local modifications. 19:56:55 So I do. 19:57:13 Now let me try to ermember why *I* changed the dynamic extent of WITH-TEST-NOTIFICATION. 19:57:16 Remember, even. 19:57:41 Yeah, I see that...I guess I could go that route. Yeah...better. 19:57:41 but I see now how I could get rid of the cells (like in mit-test.scm) 19:57:51 Probably it changes the indentation of the test reports. 19:58:54 Running Emacs inside M-x shell doesn't work very well. 19:59:01 *rotty* goes back to his attempts of binding cairo via sbank/gobject-introspection 20:01:51 I have pushed two changes which I forgot to record and push long ago. 20:02:07 Riastradh: Is that in trc-testing? 20:02:14 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02:15 reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 20:02:15 Yes. 20:03:43 Anything important? 20:03:48 Pull and see. 20:03:55 Trying...:-) 20:06:07 -!- luz [n=davids@139.82.89.70] has quit ["Client exiting"] 20:07:25 -!- jeff____ [n=jdlouhy@pinball.ccs.neu.edu] has left #scheme 20:09:25 Riastradh: you have an explicit void return in the mit-test.scm version and not in s48 version, is there a difference here? 20:09:44 -!- aardvarc [i=tgAardva@student3113.student.nau.edu] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:10:03 Not an important one. 20:12:49 It should really happen in RECORD-TEST-PASSAGES and RECORD-TEST-FAILURES. 20:14:31 bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@net1.senecac.on.ca] has joined #scheme 20:14:50 ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has joined #scheme 20:15:38 Judofyr [n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no] has joined #scheme 20:16:22 -!- reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:16:55 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 20:27:57 exexex [n=chatzill@85.97.4.68] has joined #scheme 20:29:07 Dark-Star [i=Darkstar@p57B545D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:31:17 Riastradh: is there some reason you have INDEX out there all by its lonesome in REPORT-TEST-FAILURE? 20:32:43 To show the intent to ignore it. 20:33:05 (Hence the comment to the right that reads `;ignore'.) 20:33:18 Huh, I've never seen that convention before. 20:33:57 Scheme has no (DECLARE (IGNORE ...)) construct. This substitutes for it. 20:34:38 It doesn't serve any purpose to the compiler, I assume, so it's purely informative to the programmer? 20:34:51 It serves a purpose to a compiler that warns about ignored variables. 20:35:11 Ah. 20:38:37 (Such compilers warn about ignored variables because programmers are interested in mistakes that arise from forgetting about or misspelling variables.) 20:42:01 Guest24 [n=mike@p54A1CFCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:42:08 -!- Guest24 [n=mike@p54A1CFCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:43:40 Daemmerung [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has joined #scheme 20:43:49 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:44:32 Aaaw, drat. 20:44:44 Conditions. 20:44:46 or a variety of other reasons 20:44:59 kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has joined #scheme 20:47:04 lc0825360 [n=lc@d83-183-30-144.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 20:48:55 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 20:51:11 Gorgo [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #scheme 20:51:43 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 20:52:09 -!- barney [n=bernhard@p549A0EFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:53:58 -!- jah [n=jah@2.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 20:56:33 *arcfide* attempts to translate trc-testing condition code into Chez Scheme's paradigm. 20:58:08 sbarr [n=sb@compaq30.larp.blackrocknet.com] has joined #scheme 20:58:40 Doesn't $$$ buy you a topnotch condition system? 20:59:54 mejja: Depends on what you consider to be a top notch condition system. ;-) 21:01:21 is it $$$ or just $ maybe $$? 21:04:10 -!- Gorgo is now known as Gorgoroth 21:07:48 I doubt it, mejja. 21:08:32 Riastradh: LIMITED-WRITE doesn't seem to be in the s48manual. 21:09:02 Look in the index. 21:10:05 Riastradh: Eh...under what? I see limit-output... 21:10:05 mejja, looks like $$$ buys you a few fluid variables, for an error handler, a warning handler, a keyboard interrupt handler, &c. 21:10:11 Under LIMITED-WRITE, arcfide. 21:10:24 Sorry, are you looking at the offcial one or mine? 21:10:35 Riastradh: The official one. 21:10:49 Well, there's your problem. 21:11:10 kilimanj4ro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has joined #scheme 21:12:08 -!- kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:12:16 -!- kilimanj4ro is now known as kilimanjaro 21:12:32 mejja, and the error handler is a procedure that gets a symbol, a message string, and a list of irritants. Top-notch, absolutely. 21:13:20 tihonov [n=kef@kefeer2.convex.ru] has joined #scheme 21:15:08 Riastradh: Hey now, don't forget, you also get a top-notch BREAK-HANDLER! :-) 21:16:05 *zbigniew* issues a $100 trillion note to help you cope 21:16:33 Haha, honestly, the error handler stuff hasn't caused me much trouble until now. ;-) 21:17:19 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:17:47 jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 21:21:45 Riastradh: is it possible to run MIT Scheme on 64-bit Native yet, or do you have to use the C back end? 21:21:59 The latter. 21:24:08 -!- silentOpen [n=dsheets@EASTCAMPUS-ONE-O-FIVE-HUNDRED-FIVE.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:28:04 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:31:33 Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 21:31:45 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-2-99.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 21:35:22 -!- Fulax [n=cyprien@pdpc/supporter/student/cnicolas] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:35:54 silentOpen [n=dsheets@EASTCAMPUS-NINE-FORTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 21:39:15 dmoerner [n=dmr@ppp-71-139-45-71.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 21:42:22 Here's an interesting problem. 21:43:05 I have a friend who is doing Unicode stuff for R6RS, he wished to create two syntaxes to use inside his code. One is of particular interest to me, and is called META-LET*. 21:43:46 It behaves like LET* except that the right hand sides are computed at expansion time and the body is spliced into the location where the META-LET* is used, rather than being a scoping form. 21:43:48 kraant [n=kraant@CPE-58-161-128-2.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #scheme 21:44:27 jgracin_ [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 21:44:32 that's pretty crazy 21:44:40 cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #scheme 21:44:42 I believe another feature is that any unreferenced variables bound in the form will not be stored in the final expanded output. 21:45:08 He has an interesting form that he wrote to do this. 21:45:22 r5rs let-syntax 21:45:22 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-7.html#%_idx_180 21:45:23 -newrudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/6p7vn2 21:45:23 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/6p7vn2 21:45:26 I have been wanting to tackle the problem from two angles: A) can it be done simply, and B) Is this even a good idea? 21:45:54 vixey: His code expands into a LET-SYNTAX. 21:45:55 newrudybot: for rudybot botsnack 21:45:55 mbishop: ? 21:46:09 rudybot: seen newrudybot 21:46:09 mbishop: newrudybot was seen in/on #scheme four hours, twenty-six minutes ago, saying "Fulax: no matches found", and then newrudybot was seen in/on #scheme fourteen seconds ago, saying "mbishop: ?" 21:46:22 arcfide, oh in that case I don't think I really understand 21:46:45 how are they computed at expansion time? 21:46:52 vixey: LET-SYNTAX won't keep the order of evaluation correct if we use it instead of the META-LET*. 21:47:20 vixey: They just are, it is possible to do some level of computation at expansion time. 21:47:53 arcfide: sounds like let*-syntax would be a better name? 21:48:06 sjamaan: Maybe. 21:49:06 meta-let* ? where is that from? 21:49:31 let*-syntax or let-syntax* 21:49:39 < arcfide> I have a friend who is doing Unicode stuff for R6RS, he wished to create two syntaxes to use inside his code. One is of particular interest to me, 21:49:42 and is called META-LET*. 21:50:55 djgera [n=djgera@host200.200-117-152.telecom.net.ar] has joined #scheme 21:52:57 -!- banisterfiend [n=john@203-97-217-154.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:53:35 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:53:40 arcfide pasted "adamsmd META-LET*" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/74453 21:53:49 That's what he has right now. 21:53:58 He and I are wondering if there is a better way to handle this. 21:55:21 aww it's reall ycomplext :( 21:56:06 *vixey* has to look up syntax-case 21:56:07 Hence the reason that we want a better way. 21:58:07 I had an unhygenic macro to do something similar for a tiny list processor I wrote years ago in ISLISP 21:58:16 well, it was a macro within tlp 21:58:32 I think it's a neat idea to say the least 21:58:53 -!- tizoc_ [n=user@r190-133-133-183.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:01:23 #`(quote #,lhs) 22:01:31 is that the bit that does evaluation? 22:01:46 no it isn't 22:02:56 drdo [n=drdo@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 22:03:24 -!- tihonov [n=kef@kefeer2.convex.ru] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:03:27 The basic flow is that you first generate temporary names for the placeholders; then you create a syntax for selecting a given binding, which is then used inside of an IDENTIFIER-SYNTAX to grab each lhs binding value. 22:04:33 The selector is created by evaluating all the right hand sides and binding them to their left hand side names, then converting each of these values into syntaxes, and creating a macro that reads in a flag, checks to see whether that argument matches a given temporary flag name, and if so, returns the appropriate value. 22:04:49 IMO it is really nasty. 22:05:39 -!- jmo- [n=jmo-@83.233.243.145] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:10:08 night all 22:10:10 -!- chupish [n=sedwards@192.58.150.187] has quit ["leaving"] 22:11:57 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@net1.senecac.on.ca] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 22:13:15 Riastradh: If you are still there, I am trying to understand the behavior of the tests as it pertains to condition signalling and handling. 22:13:50 WITH-TEST-CASE-RUN seems easy enough, as does WITH-TEST-SUITE-RUN. 22:14:24 It runs the test and then does the notification stuff, there doesn't seem to be any looping or restarting. 22:14:28 Just notifying of the test results. 22:15:02 Well, not test results, just the fact that the test is running. 22:15:07 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFE7B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Gone."] 22:15:21 NILADIC-TEST, trivial. 22:15:36 MONDADIC-TEST is where things start to get mirky for me. 22:17:36 -!- jgracin_ [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:17:52 Mirky? Making visits to the giant spiders? 22:18:21 Well, I can't find CALL-WITH-EXITING-RESTARTER in the refman. 22:18:28 I am comparing the mit and s48 versions. 22:18:28 Read s48-restart.scm. 22:18:49 ... 22:18:51 Right. 22:18:56 Also keep s48-interfaces.scm and s48-packages.scm in mind. 22:18:57 -!- silentOpen [n=dsheets@EASTCAMPUS-NINE-FORTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:19:07 Well, I didn't see where restarting was defined. 22:19:22 Oops. You are right. 22:19:30 amoe [n=amoe@cpc1-brig3-0-0-cust512.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #scheme 22:19:41 Well, then read the README. 22:20:20 Hrm...alright...checking into it now. 22:20:47 Is the MIT version of this code helpful in this case? 22:20:55 What exactly on the high level is supposed to happen? 22:21:20 Calling WITH-TEST-RESTARTERS is supposed to do what? 22:22:35 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 22:23:08 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 22:27:01 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has left #scheme 22:27:36 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 22:27:49 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:28:01 tizoc [n=user@r190-133-150-162.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 22:28:23 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 22:31:22 attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 22:32:13 It is supposed to establish restart(er)s for the condition handler. 22:33:52 omg Riastradh 22:34:04 is it true that you can ko chuck norris? 22:39:24 tr3, I don't think the chuck norris scheme kung-fu is that high of a challenge for anyone. 22:39:40 lol 22:40:03 chuck norris' script-fu 22:40:11 tr3: clearly someone has never programed with chuck norris. 22:40:30 silentOpen [n=dsheets@SENIOR-ONE-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 22:40:45 Chuck Norris doesn't program, when he comes around the computers program themselves. 22:41:03 Arelius: i don't know, dude; i thought the whole chuck norris thing died after he outed himself as a neocon fundie 22:41:35 he had to out himself? 22:41:59 *shrugs* 22:42:15 Fare: no, there was no compulsion; it was a spontaneous act of self-expression 22:43:10 I mean, before you'd find out he's a neocon fundie. Seem pretty obvious to me. 22:44:20 all i'm saying is that the intarweb turned on chuck norris; http://fucknorrisfacts.com/ 22:45:57 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-181-189.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [No route to host] 22:49:42 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 22:51:42 incubot: intarweb giveth, intarweb taketh away 22:51:45 "Taketh continuations unto thine heart, or face the wrath of the moderator!" 22:55:16 -!- exexex [n=chatzill@85.97.4.68] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:56:28 btw, is sarahbot dead? 22:57:31 Late and lamented. 22:57:46 ? 22:57:54 . 22:58:02 seen sarahbot? 22:58:09 minion, seen sarahbot? 22:58:10 sarahbot was last seen 5y6m14d32h43m10s ago, saying "minion: when are you going to support seen?" 22:58:11 How does trc-testing compare to the other two testing frameworks in the SRFIs? 22:58:17 *gnomon* facepalms 22:58:22 rudybot, seen sarahbot? 22:58:22 gnomon: No sign of sarahbot? 22:58:27 incubot, seen sarahbot? 22:58:30 i've seen it now. :) 22:58:36 Man, not even the bots have seen sarahbot. 22:58:46 She will live on in the logs, and in our hearts! 22:58:53 minion: You are now the oldest and the wisest of the bots. 22:58:54 what's up? 22:59:02 arcfide, that is a horrifying thought. 22:59:16 lol 22:59:28 are there any other repl bots on the net? XD 22:59:47 Oh, goodness yes. 22:59:56 rudybot: eval (apply + (list 1 2 3 4 5)) 22:59:57 Daemmerung: ; Value: 15 23:00:01 I think the haskell weenies have a couple, and the ocaml nerds. 23:00:09 I know that the #jsoftware nutbars have one too. 23:00:19 tr3: I plan on writing a bot just as soon as I get a good name for a bot based on Chez Scheme. 23:00:29 lol 23:00:31 Chezter? 23:00:36 Indibot? 23:00:37 arcfide: chief 23:00:39 Chez Norris 23:00:46 Chez Nous 23:00:55 gnomon: Better. ;-) 23:01:11 -!- ejs [n=eugen@94-248-6-16.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:01:18 banisterfiend [n=john@203-97-217-154.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #scheme 23:01:29 How about Chez La? Rhymes with Shayla. 23:01:49 Mustn't all bot names end in -bot? 23:03:19 chezbot 23:03:22 turbot 23:03:28 probot 23:03:35 electric_wizbot 23:03:38 Botbot. 23:03:39 abbot 23:04:02 Actually, we should have a bot called edwin-abbot-abbot. 23:04:52 only if it's written in a 2D programming language 23:04:59 I like "abbot." Or maybe Abbott. 23:05:34 harry botter 23:05:42 Xzibot. 23:05:42 How about Foubot? 23:05:51 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B056363.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:06:26 Translation from French: Crazy Bot. 23:06:51 Daemmerung, I like Xzibot! 23:07:47 pas-que-bot 23:08:01 (not just bot / f-ing big boat) 23:08:02 Hahahahaha! 23:08:24 ( / easter bot) 23:08:34 Merveilleux comme idee! 23:08:46 Hmm. My acute accents appear to be both old and busted. 23:08:55 é 23:08:59 HAH 23:09:24 pied-bot ? 23:09:45 chat-bot-T 23:10:26 Bot-ega? 23:10:54 -!- hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-247-166-177.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 23:12:04 Pettibot. 23:12:33 Aibot. 23:12:44 Bot-in-mondain 23:12:45 Hausbot. 23:12:51 Bot-zaris 23:13:12 lo-bot-oh-my 23:13:18 Ooooooh. 23:13:21 sladegen, excellent! 23:13:24 rudybot: for newrudybot botsnack 23:13:24 *offby1: ? 23:13:33 rudybot: version 23:13:33 *offby1: 3229d33 23:13:33 roy-botty? 23:13:35 newrudybot: version 23:13:35 offby1: 821ef0a 23:13:38 aha 23:13:40 Lobotomy! Lobotomy! Lobotomy! Lobotomy! 23:14:09 Daemmerung, well, if you insist... 23:14:22 *gnomon* anesthetizes Daemmerung 23:14:30 Hold still, now. Will someone please pass me the ice cream scoop? 23:15:26 use syringe and lot's of vacuum. 23:16:08 ...wow.... 23:16:26 drdo_ [n=drdo@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 23:16:43 *Daemmerung* now comprehends ((call/cc call/cc) (call/cc call/cc)) 23:16:44 I said hold still! You don't want to end up drooling through your nostrils for the rest of your life. 23:17:42 -!- rdd [n=user@c83-250-148-73.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [No route to host] 23:17:51 *Daemmerung* embraces Java as the Best Programming Language Evar 23:18:44 *Daemmerung* sings "Daisy," out of tempo 23:21:19 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:22:28 -!- CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-75-68-42-94.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Success] 23:23:36 I like it. 23:24:00 You like it, or you like 'it'? 23:24:31 Stop, gnomon 23:25:05 ?- likes(arcfide,it). 23:25:22 *gnomon* halts 23:25:27 vixey: I like Lobotomy as a bot name. 23:25:42 CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-75-68-42-94.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:25:53 Loomybot 23:26:16 vixey: check out rudybot's new R5RS-ness 23:26:16 That's anagramatically sound. 23:26:35 rudybot: eval 'DEATH-TO-MCAR 23:26:36 vixey: ; Value: DEATH-TO-MCAR 23:26:40 rudybot: eval 'DEATH-TO-MCONS 23:26:40 vixey: ; Value: DEATH-TO-MCONS 23:26:43 excellent. 23:27:07 rudybot: init r5rs 23:27:07 *offby1: your sandbox is ready 23:27:18 rudybot: eval (define what-do-we-want? (list 'equal 'rights 'for 'mutable 'conses)) 23:27:20 rudybot: eval (let ((c (cons 1 2))) (set-car! c 'yaaar) c) 23:27:20 *offby1: ; Value: {yaaar . 2} 23:27:26 rudybot: eval what-do-we-want? 23:27:26 vixey: ; Value: (equal rights for mutable conses) 23:27:35 curly braces, but otherwise A-ok. 23:27:47 Wait, what? Why the curly braces? 23:27:55 curly braces are as bizarre and stupid as relegating mutable conses to second class status but it's fine 23:28:12 rudybot: eval (+ 1 1) 23:28:12 (because it's just a presentation thing) 23:28:12 tr3: ; Value: 2 23:28:17 °.° 23:28:22 dudrenov [n=user@h-67-101-217-41.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #scheme 23:28:26 rudybot: give tr3 (+ 2 2) 23:28:26 tr3: vixey has given you a value, use (GRAB) in an eval to get it (case sensitive) 23:28:33 lol 23:28:40 rudybot: eval (GRAB) 23:28:40 tr3: ; Value: 4 23:28:43 !!! 23:29:11 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit ["bbl"] 23:30:10 That grab functionality is -awesome-. 23:30:18 why? 23:30:19 lol 23:30:30 hmm 23:30:39 *vixey* is still hoping to make a daisy chain with it... just time 23:30:40 ok true 23:30:41 rudybot: give gnomon (call-with-current-continuation (lambda (k) "Egads." k)) 23:30:43 gnomon: Daemmerung has given you a value, use (GRAB) in an eval to get it (case sensitive) 23:31:02 rudybot: eval (display (GRAB)) 23:31:02 gnomon: ; stdout: "#" 23:31:14 rudybot: eval (GRAB) 23:31:14 gnomon: ; Value: # 23:31:21 rudybot: eval ((GRAB)) 23:31:29 Eek. 23:31:49 -!- drdo [n=drdo@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:32:39 rudybot: eval (define k (+ 1 (call-with-current-continuation (lambda (k) k)))) 23:32:40 vixey: error: +: expects type as 2nd argument, given: #; other arguments were: 1 23:33:09 rudybot: eval (define k (+ 1 (call-with-current-continuation (lambda (c) (set! k c) 0)))) 23:33:09 vixey: error: set!: cannot set undefined identifier: k 23:33:18 hmf 23:33:29 rudybot: eval (+ 1 (call-with-current-continuation (lambda (c) (define k c) 0))) 23:33:29 vixey: ; Value: 1 23:33:37 rudybot: eval (k 3) 23:33:37 vixey: error: reference to undefined identifier: k 23:34:00 lexical scope is too hard -__ 23:34:25 (define k (let ((foo #f)) (call/cc ...(set! foo ..) foo) 23:34:42 lazy to type 23:35:06 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:40:24 -!- dboswell [n=user@lexx.daves.net] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 23:44:06 melito_ [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has joined #scheme 23:44:20 -!- melito [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:45:59 rudybot: give vixey (let ((x #f)) (lambda (sel) (case sel ((set) (lambda (y) (set! x y) x)) ((get) (lambda () x)) ((acc) (lambda (y) (set! x (+ x y)) x))))) 23:45:59 vixey: Daemmerung has given you a value, use (GRAB) in an eval to get it (case sensitive) 23:46:55 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["later..."] 23:47:06 nice 23:47:32 Probably should have made it save a string, so SEKRIT MESSAGES could be passed in it. 23:48:29 Bah, just provide rudybot with a simple public-key encryption library and let people stuff their keys into the wiki. 23:52:13 -!- langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:55:07 newrudybot: tell rudybot botsnack 23:55:09 rudybot: (botsnack) 23:55:24 newrudybot: tell rudybot botsnack 23:55:25 rudybot: botsnack 23:55:35 newrudybot: tell rudybot eval (+ 1 2) 23:55:36 rudybot: eval (+ 1 2) 23:55:44 newrudybot: tell minion advice 23:55:44 minion: advice 23:55:45 #11933: Because it's a syntax error. 23:56:45 newrudybot: tell rudybot tell newrudybot tell rudybot tell newrudybot tell rudybot Yo Momma. 23:56:45 Daemmerung: ? 23:56:59 Dang. 23:58:00 newrudybot: tell newrudybot tell newrudybot tell newrudybot tell rudybot You Momma. 23:58:00 newrudybot: tell newrudybot tell newrudybot tell rudybot You Momma. 23:58:18 rudybot: you here? 23:58:18 Fare: ? 23:59:14 newrudybot: emote is eli's slave 23:59:16 *newrudybot* is eli's slave 23:59:37 newrudybot: tell minion MORE FEATURES 23:59:37 minion: MORE FEATURES 23:59:38 features me harder 23:59:39 newrudybot: emote will do anything for botfood. 23:59:39 Daemmerung: ? 23:59:43 Ah. I see. 23:59:49 kniu [n=kniu@128.237.250.14] has joined #scheme