00:12:13 bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-238-145.dsl.look.ca] has joined #scheme 00:12:23 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has quit [Success] 00:20:28 -!- rtra [n=rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 00:21:00 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:21:34 rtra [n=rtra@unaffiliated/rtra] has joined #scheme 00:25:34 underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 00:27:02 -!- mejja [n=user@c-4bb5e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:47:20 tizoc_ [n=user@r190-133-149-254.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 00:58:18 -!- tizoc [n=user@r190-133-145-223.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:59:21 Can anyone recall the source of Dijkstra's assertion that the anthropomorphization of software is the sign of an immature mind? 00:59:36 Other than EWD396, that is. 01:02:11 JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 01:03:41 EWD 1036, I think 01:03:54 yes, "On the cruelty of really teaching computing science" 01:04:43 Ah, brilliant! Thank you! 01:05:04 -!- JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has left #scheme 01:05:39 You are welcome. 01:13:18 Ah, Dijkstra. So pithy. So wrong. 01:13:50 The correctness of his argument is not relevant to the reason for my reference to it, in this case. 01:14:09 I happen to have http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/ascribing.html open in another window. 01:17:58 -!- Jarvellis is now known as djarvelis 01:23:15 offby1: ping 01:23:56 -!- saccade__ [n=saccade@BRAIN-AND-COG-THREE-TWELVE.MIT.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:24:49 austin2 [n=austinfl@fl-67-235-225-253.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #scheme 01:24:56 arcfide [n=arcfide@99.137.203.69] has joined #scheme 01:25:07 Hello everyone. 01:25:38 hey beginner question if someone can help. why start a function definition with a lambda (x) ect when the function works just fine without a lambda? i've noticed it almost seems like a convention 01:26:34 in other words, instead of (define myfun (arg1 arg2 arg3)) people tend to do (define myfun lambda (arg1 arg2 arg3)).. why? 01:26:34 jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has joined #scheme 01:27:02 austin2: Neither of those is valid Scheme. 01:27:24 austin2: There are (DEFINE (PROC ARG1 ...) ...) and (DEFINE PROC (LAMBDA (ARG1 ...) ...)) forms, though. 01:27:37 Some people like the former, some like the later. 01:28:09 I have been using the latter lately, but the former is what I used to use, and I might start using it again. 01:29:02 isn't the first just syntactic sugar? it used to be when you defined a function you always used the lambda notation? 01:34:37 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:35:54 yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:36:31 bzzbzz [n=franco@modemcable027.191-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 01:37:00 well that's helping to clarify things amiable.. and thanks arcfide 01:37:07 so really they are isomorphic? 01:38:42 arcfide.. btw, do you know of the mbti? i'm going to guess you are an intj 01:39:06 mbti? 01:39:08 Oh. 01:39:16 You mean personality profiles? 01:40:06 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 01:41:10 yeah 01:41:33 I have heard of them, and I think I have even taken one or the other of them, though I do not remember my result. 01:42:10 oh i find it really interesting. but it's not that interesting until you read your own profile.. it's definately not the same thing as astrology though some mistake it as such, at first. 01:42:29 like the profile on intj, or intp may describe you 01:42:41 on google it comes up as "profile of intj" ect 01:42:51 if u do check it out let me know 01:43:05 wait, "portrait of intj" 01:43:07 Hah, are you interested in my personality or something? 01:43:21 the way you worded your answer made me guess you're an intj 01:43:34 i use it in person with people all the time though i usually don't mention it 01:43:44 arcfide: He's going to offer you a free personality test next... exercise caution. 01:43:52 yeah, i'm really a bot 01:43:54 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:44:11 jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has joined #scheme 01:44:27 *arcfide* puts on his Facebook Armor. 01:44:35 i'm always intrigued by how little interaction there is on this channel given the # of people here. so what the hell. personality tests. 01:44:41 oh and i don't use FB 01:44:51 *arcfide* puts on his MySpace Armor. 01:44:57 lmfao 01:45:04 For the record, arcfide is a INRI, while I'm a SPQR. 01:45:12 austin2: There is lot's of interaction here. 01:45:26 Just the other day poor edw was getting roasted. 01:46:05 -!- raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:46:08 i'm yhwh 01:46:25 *Daemmerung* is enlightened 01:46:28 Daemmerung: INRI? SPQR? 01:46:37 GOOG 01:47:16 WDTTB 01:51:08 arcfide: jesus and ceasar. 01:52:10 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:53:01 Meyers-Briggs as astrology. Sorry. 01:53:28 Well, while we're at it, Chinese Zodiac Sign? 01:54:26 Oh, that's easier. Water Rabbit. Missed being a Dragon by two days -- the full moon fell late that year. 01:55:02 Hehe, Water Rabbit, eh? 01:55:15 (I prefer the Vietnamese zodiac. I am definitely a carnivore.) 01:55:52 Pity my poor wife, the Earth Pig. I call her "aardvark." 01:56:05 Hey, Pigs are great creatures. 01:56:14 Smart /and/ delicious. 01:56:16 They do not get enough credit beyond their role as Bacon. 01:56:30 Great pets for those who like pets that can think beyond the next meal. 01:56:41 Speaking of food. 01:56:51 Beef, it's what's for dinner. 01:57:19 Beets, greens, and cheese here. No bacon in the house right now. Dang it. 01:58:40 Myers-Briggs is of questionable psychological accuracy 01:58:47 geckosenator [n=sean@adsl-68-23-87-156.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #scheme 01:59:04 it's not used by mainstream psychologists, in general 01:59:29 *Adamant* was a psychology student in a former major 02:07:21 -!- Axioplase_ is now known as Axioplase 02:07:57 -!- yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:12:25 -!- dudrenov [n=user@h-67-101-217-41.snfccasy.covad.net] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 02:21:49 yhara [n=yhara@raichu.netlab.jp] has joined #scheme 02:28:19 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@99.137.203.69] has quit ["Reboot"] 02:28:42 -!- austin2 [n=austinfl@fl-67-235-225-253.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:28:47 austin2 [n=austinfl@fl-67-235-225-253.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #scheme 02:29:57 Adamant: mainstream psychologists are boring, though; ever since they decided to achieve credibility by becoming a statistical "science" 02:30:00 ajzen, fishbein, et al. 02:30:28 psychology as science 02:30:37 started with the behaviorist 02:30:39 s 02:30:50 their approach was a little too radical though 02:30:55 but probably needed for the time 02:31:15 haven't heard of either psychologist 02:32:17 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:32:18 theory of reasoned action? hmm 02:32:32 anyway, i find it funny that the military is going back to behavorism 02:32:43 theory of pooping in the toilet 02:32:48 we were asked to model the iraqis as a stimulus-response complex 02:33:02 foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 02:33:15 which i did in scheme, btw ;) 02:33:35 stimulus: bomb their weddings 02:33:38 response: ? 02:33:43 wastrel: profit 02:38:39 good think barack is taking out the trash 02:50:01 -!- johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has left #scheme 02:53:30 langmartin [n=user@69.246.148.216] has joined #scheme 02:54:51 -!- langmartin [n=user@69.246.148.216] has quit [Client Quit] 02:56:04 nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12-226-78-3.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 02:56:49 brweber2 [n=brweber2@ip68-100-65-167.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 02:59:09 eli: pong 02:59:38 jr92 [n=jon@12.50.149.2] has joined #scheme 02:59:46 -!- benny` [n=benny@i577A0DED.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:59:55 offby1: I have a sketch 03:00:03 I have a dream 03:00:59 offby1: does your dream have a url? 03:01:12 My sketch does: http://tmp.barzilay.org/x 03:02:11 I think I've seen that URL before. 03:02:24 Yeah, it's been around. 03:02:29 Don't know where, don't know when ...  03:03:04 ...don't know what character that box at the end of the line represents... 03:03:17 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:03:21 sctb [n=sctb@adsl-69-228-190-230.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 03:04:00 offby1: In any case, I'm on limited time here -- batteries running very low 03:04:22 The relevant example starts where you see `eli' and `offby1'. 03:04:49 There is only one new function `give' which would be similar to `eval', with the extra argument of who to give it too. 03:05:06 *offby1* ponders 03:05:16 In that sketch things are easy because I just use sandboxes instead of nicks. 03:06:08 (which might be a slight problem: if I give something to `foo', it would be better to not create a sanndbox for `foo', but that's technicalities) 03:06:10 Anyway, 03:07:02 When someone gets something, it writes a `grab' binding. There is therefore exactly one value that can wait for you. Seems fine for irc-style interactions. 03:07:46 So in your own sandbox `(grab)' will actually run the function that is created outside the sandbox, and that will drag over the value that you were given. 03:07:57 -!- jr92 [n=jon@12.50.149.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:07:59 -!- kerz [n=Banano@24.139.152.73] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:08:01 So the interaction would be: 03:08:02 jonrafkind [n=jon@12.50.149.2] has joined #scheme 03:08:07 -!- hemulen [n=hemulen@cpe-069-134-114-252.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [] 03:08:16 rudybot: give foo some-expr 03:08:20 and then foo will: 03:08:30 rudybot: eval (define blah (grab)) 03:08:30 eli: error: reference to undefined identifier: grab 03:09:16 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-69.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 03:09:21 The implementation is slightly tricky: the whole point is thta if I give you a value, the value is not accessible outside of my sandbox. 03:09:47 This will be a memory leak -- allowing people to grab memory and throw the responsibility away. 03:10:00 So the solution is to keep the value inside my sandbox, 03:10:34 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-69.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:10:41 it's stored as a hash value for a random gensymmed handle -- and that handle goes to my sandbox 03:10:54 (or goes from the giver to the taker) 03:11:38 only when the taker invokes (grab) it will grab the value from the giver's sandbox, and use that as the result, and then the taker can be charged for it too, which is file. 03:11:58 That's all. 03:19:14 I will amend your sketch with what you just said. 03:19:32 OK 03:19:46 How about when I wake up you ask me more question, 03:19:51 I'll say some more stuff, 03:20:09 and you'll add that too -- so you can call it the second amendment. 03:20:34 0_o 03:22:34 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-69.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 03:32:49 Boo. 03:33:12 Oi! 03:33:28 Eeya 03:35:14 Boot. 03:38:25 Does anyone actually use SILC? 03:47:10 -!- decoder_ring [n=adam@c-68-40-195-220.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:49:35 decoder_ring [n=adam@c-68-40-195-220.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:53:58 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:57:03 tizoc [n=user@r190-133-134-167.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 03:59:49 -!- Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:02:36 arcfide: some IRC networks replicate their IRC over SILC 04:02:50 -!- sctb is now known as sctb_sebell 04:02:59 -!- sctb_sebell [n=sctb@adsl-69-228-190-230.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:05:29 Hrm, does anyone here know anything about Windows and COM ports? 04:07:37 -!- Gorgoroth [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 04:09:19 -!- nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12-226-78-3.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:09:22 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:10:01 underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 04:10:35 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 04:12:14 nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12-207-56-139.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 04:15:23 -!- melito [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has quit ["Leaving..."] 04:16:21 -!- tizoc_ [n=user@r190-133-149-254.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:17:50 I found SILC to be buggy... switching keys off and on would trigger segmentation faults. That kind of shook my trust in its security. 04:19:57 criminy [n=criminy@adsl-158-251-183.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 04:20:36 -!- foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 04:20:58 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [] 04:22:38 raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has joined #scheme 04:22:39 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-69.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Sleep"] 04:26:27 com ports. I used to think about those things when I had what we called a "moe-dem". 04:27:28 foof [n=user@naist-wavenet126-001.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 04:33:53 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:35:44 bweaver [n=bweaver@c-67-161-236-94.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:38:25 kraant [i=7d3fc3d9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d5173fc83046286] has joined #scheme 04:40:29 -!- nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12-207-56-139.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:49:50 -!- austin2 [n=austinfl@fl-67-235-225-253.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:52:25 -!- brweber2 [n=brweber2@ip68-100-65-167.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [] 04:59:29 -!- raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:08:06 -!- gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has quit ["Leaving."] 05:12:35 -!- jso [n=user@151.159.200.8] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 05:14:12 -!- foof [n=user@naist-wavenet126-001.naist.jp] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:16:40 Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 05:28:04 -!- tjafk1 [n=timj@e176199178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:28:09 tjafk1 [n=timj@e176215182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:31:55 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@chld.ru] has joined #scheme 05:31:57 -!- pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32:40 -!- wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has quit ["sleep time is now"] 05:33:17 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@chld.ru] has left #scheme 05:35:37 -!- mjonsson [n=mjonsson@66-234-42-93.nyc.cable.nyct.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:45:45 hikoz [n=hikoz@27.183.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 05:48:40 -!- yhara [n=yhara@raichu.netlab.jp] has quit ["Leaving..."] 05:48:52 I wrote some serial-IO code on/for Win about a million billion years ago. 05:50:03 wow, that's before my time 05:55:40 And you're the one who takes all the grief about the dentures. Yeah, I know. 05:57:35 I imagine you shun dentures as a sort of newfangled gimmick. 06:00:15 ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has joined #scheme 06:04:37 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-71-226-66-93.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:11:20 foof [n=user@naist-wavenet126-001.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 06:29:18 hikoz_ [n=hikoz@27.183.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 06:45:38 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-238-145.dsl.look.ca] has quit [] 06:46:37 -!- hikoz [n=hikoz@27.183.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:56:51 -!- bweaver [n=bweaver@c-67-161-236-94.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:57:32 underspecified [n=eric@isa7-dhcp-116-155.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 07:16:36 wy [n=wy@c-98-228-40-51.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:17:04 Ragnaroek [i=54a63f51@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f51916d484475f6f] has joined #scheme 07:22:49 -!- tjafk1 [n=timj@e176215182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:22:57 tjafk1 [n=timj@e176193132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 07:24:54 Anyone know of a good small (in kilobytes) scheme implementation for windows? 07:25:16 Grimmjow_ [n=chatzill@c-69-250-158-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 07:25:17 Gorgoroth [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #scheme 07:25:37 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 07:25:52 -!- wy [n=wy@c-98-228-40-51.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:26:59 self contained and not touching registry etc if possible... Open Source preferred 07:27:39 Write one in ASM? 07:28:53 I'm on #$%#$ windows it doesn't have an assembler available 07:29:30 I'm not even sure windows still has debug like dos did 07:29:51 One of the first things I ever used to code 07:30:02 Other than Apple II Integer Basic 07:30:30 It does 07:30:33 Now how did it work 07:30:50 *djarvelis* never knew, sorry 07:31:07 Wait this debug seems different is it still what I think it is 07:31:47 OMFG it's more user friendly! 07:31:58 It has in-system help 07:37:00 SCM is pretty small, though I don't know how well it works without SLIB, which adds a couple of Mb to its size. 07:37:44 I just want to see whether I can write a BASIC interpretor in a scheme 07:37:47 SCM hunh? 07:37:50 benny [n=benny@i577A02D2.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 07:38:24 ty Daemmerung 07:38:50 *kraant* stops looking up DEBUG tutes 07:39:18 If you're really on fire to write x86, though, download nasm. 07:40:07 Daemmerung: I'm just not used to being on an OS that doesn't come with a C compiler =P 07:40:09 Don't know why code size is an issue if all you want is to write a BASIC in a Scheme. But that's your business, not mine. 07:40:26 Daemmerung: bandwidth limitations 07:40:37 If you want a C compiler, download Vc Express from Microsoft. Free. 07:40:38 It's the downloading that's the problem 07:40:44 Ah. 07:41:02 The Basic in a scheme is just for fun 07:42:55 SCM download is less than half a meg 07:42:57 ty ty ty! 07:44:47 Kusanagi [n=Lernaean@71-14-81-211.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #scheme 07:51:27 Oh scm alters registry settings etc 07:51:40 *kraant* debates using newlisp instead 07:51:56 Ugh. 07:52:43 What registry setting does SCM alter? It was quite plain, the last I used it. 07:53:13 Daemmerung: I mispoke 07:53:30 I think it just adds a thing in the start menu 07:53:35 *kraant* is /not/ used to windows 07:53:57 I find it confusing and upsetting 07:53:58 Why the worry about writing to the registry, then? 07:54:05 -!- foof [n=user@naist-wavenet126-001.naist.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:54:10 Not my machine 07:54:16 *kraant* is not at home and bored 07:54:18 -!- Hydr4 [n=Lernaean@71-14-81-211.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:57:09 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:57:34 jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-143-29.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:58:37 It does alter the registry slightly so scm can find slib 07:58:41 Aaah well 07:58:50 It's installed now 08:00:30 djarvelis: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/scheme/impl/scm/hobbit/0.html <---- Extremely cool 08:00:31 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/hkwea 08:00:31 If this packaging of SCM has an uninstall sequence, that should remove most extraneous registry entries. 08:00:41 I think it does 08:01:44 ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has joined #scheme 08:02:03 kraant: Yes, very 08:03:49 -!- ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:14:51 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 08:15:21 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@hermes.lanit.ru] has joined #scheme 08:17:58 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-143-29.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [No route to host] 08:19:18 Jarv2 [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #scheme 08:25:26 -!- djarvelis [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:27:27 troter [n=troter@EM114-48-161-195.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 08:29:00 mike [n=mike@dslb-088-066-248-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 08:29:33 -!- mike 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Its members share short messages about their life and interests. Join now to become part of this group and many more! 14:11:47 ........... lol 14:16:58 -!- Paraselene_ [n=Not@79-68-176-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [""That's our secret... we kill you with kindness. 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16:35:58 yes 16:36:03 look at topic 16:36:08 !topic 16:36:21 *leppie* does not know the commands :) 16:36:54 leppie: it would be real pain to read a whole book online 16:36:56 there are videos of it too, i have not watched them 16:37:08 there is a pdf somewhere, hangon 16:37:19 -!- reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw560169.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:37:27 I heard sicp is very hard to read and understand 16:37:36 http://web.mit.edu/alexmv/6.001/ 16:37:54 so thinking it should better to go with dead tree version. 16:39:09 if you can and want :) 16:39:19 yeah SICP is too hard for you, go away 16:39:54 I should not quote fight club 16:40:18 yeah, i did not get that ;P 16:40:39 :( 16:40:41 but you should not talk about fight club! 16:41:23 athos_ [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has joined #scheme 16:41:26 -!- tizoc [n=user@r190-133-152-27.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:41:28 hugo_: from what i scanned through, SICP is quite instructive 16:42:59 Someone should write a 'Thinking in Scheme' book, for all those coming from procedural/OO languages 16:43:33 leppie: Isn't SICP such? 16:43:46 I thought it's a intro book 16:43:52 it is 16:43:54 -!- athos_ is now known as athos 16:44:02 but it attempts to teach you programming 16:44:32 via scheme 16:44:34 you, as a person with say 5-10 years of C/Java?whatever experience knows certian things 16:45:13 i'm c person 16:46:02 the problem is that although SICP and most others teach you the same concepts, they dont drill it into your head what the practical usage is 16:46:17 -!- jao [n=user@74.Red-80-24-4.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #scheme 16:46:49 Is scheme a practical language? 16:47:23 from a C point of view, you want to forget about loops and any form of branches, forget about them completely, then learn to use tail recursion effectively 16:47:46 yes, once you are comfortable with it, it becomes a very powerful tool 16:47:57 leppie: I know a little bit of common lisp so I hope that should don't bother me 16:48:23 you wish your day job language had it's capabilities and simplicity 16:48:45 hugo_, what is a "practical language" 16:48:54 perl :) 16:49:45 vixey: A practical language would be one that's effectively used for getting things done at your work 16:50:02 hugo_, *my* work? 16:50:28 -!- bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:50:36 hugo_: do you know the XML family? 16:50:45 leppie: no 16:51:09 well XML is an inferior glorified Scheme 16:51:58 The worst introduction of Scheme ever :p 16:52:03 :p 16:52:53 well i come from a C# background, for 7 years now, and Scheme only about a year 16:53:22 no, i lie, more like a year and half for Scheme :) 16:53:35 time flies :( 16:53:56 have sicp taken a year to read for you 16:53:57 like an arrow 16:55:09 no, I implemented a Scheme myself, so I like learnt it in reverse fashion, took a while, but now I'm comfortable :) 16:55:44 strange. 16:56:37 yeah, but it was the most familiar way for me to learn a language, semantics then syntax 16:57:40 leppie: I suggest you are away from c++ 16:57:45 syntax to me is supplementary, sematics define the language 16:57:55 i hate c++ with a passion :p 16:58:05 way too complex 16:58:20 Judofyr_ [n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no] has joined #scheme 16:58:23 and ugly 16:58:37 i like C though 16:59:20 leppie: same here 16:59:38 with liberal macro usage :p 17:02:49 *hugo_* is looking for sicp paperback ed. 17:03:01 the cheaper the better 17:03:42 probably $5 in India 17:03:52 Judofyr__ [n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no] has joined #scheme 17:04:06 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@net1.senecac.on.ca] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:04:53 -!- Judofyr_ [n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:04:55 recycled newspaper edition 17:05:06 mm hm 17:05:43 you guys bought hardcover ed? how rich 17:07:36 borism [n=boris@195-50-211-250-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has joined #scheme 17:12:06 hardcover ftw! 17:12:09 -!- Judofyr__ is now known as Judofyr_ 17:12:50 Judofyr: what do you mean? 17:13:41 I prefer hardcover to paperback... 17:13:54 so much easier to read 17:14:07 harder to keep the book open when doing the exercises, though 17:14:19 -!- Judofyr [n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:14:29 -!- Judofyr_ is now known as Judofyr 17:14:43 harder to bring 17:14:55 where should I bring it? 17:15:36 it's not that far between the computer and the bed :P 17:15:42 school, office, even a park? 17:16:03 -!- Mr-Cat__ [n=Mr-Cat@hermes.lanit.ru] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:16:18 great way to pick up girls, lemme tell ya. 17:16:21 school: not using it there. office: nope. park: no one nearby 17:16:28 "OICUR reading SICP" 17:16:39 at least you get a proper girl! 17:16:49 lol 17:17:45 Judofyr: I'd be using it there ;) 17:18:03 meh, I like being social :P 17:20:17 Judofyr: if you always use it at your room, online edition might work for you 17:21:11 hugo_: I *hate* reading long texts on the screen 17:21:24 me, too :) 17:21:44 "social"? 17:21:48 *offby1* looks at Judofyr funny 17:21:53 NOT ONE OF US 17:22:04 b 17:22:33 A REAL SOCIAL GUY DON'T USE IRC 17:23:17 name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has joined #scheme 17:23:30 Ragnaroek [i=54a66651@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ed47fe7f2cb96f6c] has joined #scheme 17:26:00 *hugo_* is buying SICP hardcover 17:26:16 *hugo_* is getting poor every minute 17:28:23 -!- hugo_ [n=hugo@61.245.51.205.er.eaccess.ne.jp] has quit [] 17:37:12 -!- synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:38:47 synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has joined #scheme 17:39:43 -!- Ragnaroek [i=54a66651@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ed47fe7f2cb96f6c] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 17:41:04 jah [n=jah@209.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #scheme 17:41:14 -!- jah [n=jah@209.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:50:22 -!- ozy` [n=vt920@pool-71-184-104-97.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["absquatulating"] 18:00:07 schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A15E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 18:08:05 -!- danking [n=danking@pinball.ccs.neu.edu] has quit ["leaving"] 18:08:12 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@BRAIN-AND-COG-THREE-TWELVE.MIT.EDU] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 18:10:02 danking [n=danking@pinball.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 18:27:58 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:36:26 wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has joined #scheme 18:43:53 melito [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has joined #scheme 18:56:31 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:08:14 ejs1 [n=eugen@94.248.85.141] has joined #scheme 19:17:14 -!- ejs1 [n=eugen@94.248.85.141] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:18:03 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:22:07 vy [n=user@88.227.111.137] has joined #scheme 19:23:01 Hi! Excuse my ignorance, but aren't threading and networking features introduced in R6RS libraries? 19:25:50 vy: http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-1.html#node_toc_start 19:26:02 doesn't look like it to me 19:27:08 klutometis: I've been lurking in R6RS since minutes, no evidence of such. 19:27:50 is there a list of the core api? 19:28:39 Judofyr: http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs/r6rs-Z-H-2.html#node_toc_start 19:28:59 *klutometis* feels dirty peddling the wares of the Empire 19:29:10 in a more readable version? 19:29:23 like, type "define" and get the documentation... 19:29:31 I'm lazy, you know! 19:29:39 PDF files are available on r6rs.org. 19:29:43 Judofyr, I can't imagine that being difficult to implement 19:30:05 dudrenov [n=user@h-67-101-217-41.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #scheme 19:30:15 Judofyr, (then again maybe I don't have much imagination, I can't imagine why anyone would want to look up things in R6RS) 19:30:16 -!- vy [n=user@88.227.111.137] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:34:06 vixey: have to concur 19:35:37 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 19:37:04 ejs1 [n=eugen@94-248-85-141.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 19:37:04 Is readscheme mirrored somewhere? 19:37:06 -!- alaricsp [n=alaricsp@217.205.201.45] has quit [] 19:38:26 Not that I know. Nag Jim Bender. Maybe I'll publish my PDF collection this weekend to take up the slack until Bender brings readscheme back online. 19:39:37 That would be nice if you do. 19:40:32 Judofyr: actually, the PLT documentation might count as your lazy man's way. It subsumes all the R6RS libraries, indexed and collated. Just look for the hits that say "r6rs" in the search results. 19:41:10 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:44:23 jah [n=jah@209.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #scheme 19:46:11 jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has joined #scheme 19:46:20 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 19:46:29 jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has joined #scheme 19:58:41 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 20:00:28 saccade_ [n=saccade@BRAIN-AND-COG-FIVE-TWENTY.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 20:01:04 choas [n=lars@p5B0DD906.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:11:40 Judofyr: to followup on Daemmerung's suggestion, you can go to http://docs.plt-scheme.org/search/ and enter "M:rnrs" in the search box. 20:14:13 karme [n=user@dslb-088-067-042-106.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 20:15:13 -!- jah [n=jah@209.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 20:23:16 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 20:24:46 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 20:34:25 jay [n=jay@69.64.193.238] has joined #scheme 20:35:10 bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@net1.senecac.on.ca] has joined #scheme 20:39:27 bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 20:47:40 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:47:54 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:48:46 tizoc [n=user@r190-133-139-83.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 20:55:06 -!- karme [n=user@dslb-088-067-042-106.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #scheme 20:59:37 hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B055041.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:59:38 -!- fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-088-069-165-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:00:49 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@BRAIN-AND-COG-FIVE-TWENTY.MIT.EDU] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:07:16 Arelius [n=Indy@209.77.67.98] has joined #scheme 21:07:22 -!- AmiableCrocodile [n=nimaj@d199-126-167-79.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:08:46 -!- tizoc_ [n=user@r190-133-132-115.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:16:02 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 21:20:32 -!- jay [n=jay@69.64.193.238] has left #scheme 21:25:32 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-3-77.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 21:32:11 wabash [n=user1@pool-72-69-148-253.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:34:13 Hey. Working on SICP. One annoying thing I experience is not being able to test and confirm my answers to problems. Is there a convenient test framework for mit-scheme? 21:35:32 tizoc_ [n=user@r190-133-143-151.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 21:41:01 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@net1.senecac.on.ca] has quit [No route to host] 21:41:36 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:44:39 Ragnaroek [i=54a659bd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-01a864a2f1039985] has joined #scheme 21:45:50 -!- tizoc [n=user@r190-133-139-83.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:47:20 wabash, 21:47:36 what the _____ is a "test framework"? 21:48:12 -!- tizoc_ is now known as tizoc 21:52:39 vixey: Uh... I just mean something that I can run unit tests with. Like a series of inputs and compare expected results to actual results. 21:52:50 wabash, you can write it in a file like 21:52:56 LISTING: tests.scm 21:53:21 You mean just do it manually. Have procedure calls and comparisons? 21:53:31 yes 21:53:45 wabash, infact I'd _recommend_ it 21:53:58 wabash, but the reason is because once you have used it for a bit, maybe it's getting a bit tedious 21:54:09 wabash, at /that/ point, you can define a macro for DEFINE-TEST or whatever 21:54:20 decker [n=chatzill@71-93-181-7.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has joined #scheme 21:54:24 I see. 21:54:39 I'm not to the point of understanding macros and LISTING. what is LISTING? 21:54:46 wabash, but I don't recommend _starting out_ but writing a macro 21:54:56 I just meant a file 21:55:06 wabash, but I don't recommend _starting out_ by** writing a macro 21:56:28 vixey: I see. so it goes like a) write files for exercises, b) write files for tests, c) evaluate the files for exercises; d) evaluate the file for tests; e) call procedure to start tests. 21:56:46 dunno that seems over complex but if it suits you 21:57:54 Then what did you have in mind that's simpler? 21:58:09 Is there a way to sort of run a file in scheme, the same way that I would in ruby/ 21:59:42 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:00:22 yes 22:00:25 r5rs load 22:00:26 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_630 22:00:27 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/5vvuxd 22:00:36 just (LOAD "file.scm") 22:01:20 I don't suppose someone could help clarify exercise 2 for me from sicp's sample programming assignments: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/psets/ps2/ps2.ps 22:01:35 -!- schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A15E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:02:49 vixey: Thanks. How about from unix command line? mit-scheme xxx.scm? 22:03:12 I don't know but probably 22:03:31 Cool, thanks vixey. 22:03:33 for number 2, when it says your procedure return a vertical line, perhaps it really means return a procedure that takes a number as an argument so that if you give it the unit interval, you'd get the line? say feed it 0 and you'd get your starting point. feed it 1 and you'll get your end point. 22:04:32 yikes, if that makes any sense at all... 22:04:47 no 22:04:52 I idon't understand you could ask ##SICP 22:04:59 someone is probably around that just did that one 22:05:13 ah. k. didn't even realize that channel existed 22:07:07 Jarv2 [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #scheme 22:08:32 -!- rcy [n=rcy@d154-20-176-87.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:14:23 -!- Ragnaroek [i=54a659bd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-01a864a2f1039985] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 22:20:07 Daemmerung: sometimes the shit you come up with is so clever it's scary; it's almost a mix of extraterrestrialism and Teutony 22:21:12 -!- djarvelis [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:26:58 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-143-29.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [No route to host] 22:35:48 -!- wabash [n=user1@pool-72-69-148-253.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #scheme 22:35:49 -!- bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:36:08 bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:38:18 jonrafkind [n=jon@64.213.79.190] has joined #scheme 22:39:57 -!- Jarv2 is now known as Jarvellis 22:40:51 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B055041.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:44:47 -!- Kumool [n=Amarante@24.139.152.73] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:48:32 It wasn't me! I didn't do it! 22:49:12 *Daemmerung* is currently trying to read generated Gambit code and so feeling somewhat less than clever 22:53:24 Daemmerung: that jung + inri/spqr thing was shock and awe 22:54:28 jung + inri/spqr pretty easy just subtract jumg from both sides and multiply by spqr 22:54:51 heh 22:54:56 *vixey* actually wants to know what it actually means ? 22:55:18 -!- Gorgoroth [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 22:55:41 still come up with (= (* (- x jung) spqr) inri) 22:55:52 vixey: you mean, what's x? 22:56:03 sheer brilliance 22:58:54 proqesi [n=user@ip-64-32-147-74.dsl.lax.megapath.net] has joined #scheme 23:04:22 synthase [n=synthase@c-69-243-234-165.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:08:02 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-71-226-66-93.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:10:56 austin2 [n=austinfl@c-98-230-14-105.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:12:16 rfgpfeiffer [n=rfgpfeif@e178222134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 23:15:11 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:15:12 sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 23:17:42 arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-69.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:17:50 Does anyone know what simple-testing is in S48? 23:18:18 -!- rfgpfeiffer [n=rfgpfeif@e178222134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 23:18:38 I searched the Scheme48 Reference Manual and all I found was a reference to SRFI 78. 23:19:53 Paraselene_ [n=Not@79-68-176-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #scheme 23:20:38 Aaah, it's not Scheme48, it's trc-testing. 23:23:43 gorki [n=chatzill@p54A7E991.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 23:29:45 alaricsp [n=alaricsp@217.205.201.45] has joined #scheme 23:29:54 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:30:22 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 23:33:53 hydrapheetz [n=blank@209.62.197.225] has joined #scheme 23:33:56 -!- Jarvellis [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:35:00 -!- opt9 [n=user@59.7.205.138] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:45:40 -!- choas [n=lars@p5B0DD906.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 23:46:46 Gorgoroth [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #scheme 23:46:58 -!- langmartin [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (devel) (IRC client for Emacs)"] 23:53:56 -!- vixey [n=vicky@amcant.demon.co.uk] has quit ["There exists an infinite set!"] 23:54:51 gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has joined #scheme 23:59:35 AtnNn [n=welcome@MTRLPQ02-1279391716.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme