00:00:09 Well, they had an even larger investment in ksh too, but you don't see them using Kython. 00:02:47 that's because Kython is so well made, you don't even notice it! 00:03:05 (though you do see hack piled upon middleware piled upon hack to retain use of 30-year-old mainframe assembly, so you have a point) 00:04:08 *zbigniew* converts his ksh88 code to continuation-passing style 00:04:45 If I were bought into the Java lifestyle I might take a look at it. 00:05:17 it's not a lifestyle. they're just born that way 00:05:25 Heh. 00:06:08 neilv: so, are they trying to interface with existing Java libraries? Because if they're using Scheme and CL it doesn't sound like that is a primary requirement 00:06:36 Is there not a CL that compiles to the JVM? Armed Bear, right? 00:06:45 zbigniew: I don't know. I do know that they were adventurous enough to build a large new system with Scheme and CL 00:07:00 that certainly takes guts 00:07:09 there are several schemes that either target the jvm or run in java 00:07:17 probably something that spits out java code, too 00:08:35 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:08:35 SISC and Kawa. And someday PLT, we are told. 00:08:59 -!- chturne [n=charlie@host86-139-71-1.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:08:59 i guess I should clarify--given that existing Scheme/CL systems target Java, it doesn't seem like Clojure would be required on that basis--unless those implementations have a fatal flaw (incompleteness?) in their Java interface 00:09:05 So, does anyone here have experience with GUI builders? 00:09:22 arcfide: visual basic! 00:09:28 ... 00:09:33 dlurf [n=dlurf@c83-249-224-126.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 00:10:21 zbigniew: why do you assume that he wanted to track the IP address?? 00:11:25 *zbigniew* tries to figure out what Daemmerung is talking about 00:11:48 Sorry, man. Lame allusion. I'll go back to work now. 00:12:02 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:12:37 it just means I'm not quite with it enough 00:13:21 "24" reference? 00:13:37 -!- X-Scale [i=email@89.180.163.184] has left #scheme 00:14:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni_rAamVP2s 00:14:58 haha. that's where i saw that before 00:15:04 funny. i think I've seen that episode 00:15:19 sounds like csi (which i've never watched) is even worse than 24 00:15:51 csi = chicken scheme interpreter 00:16:44 nearly every tv show is just as bad in that realm. at least they got the jargon right ;) but stay away from the CSI:NY 'second life' episode 00:17:02 surprisingly enough, alias was a bit better than 24 00:17:20 i watched them both a season at a time on dvd, interleaved, so it was easy to compare 00:20:18 arcfide: there exists a builder for MrEd apps, though I've never used it myself. 00:20:20 http://www.hexahedron.hu/personal/peteri/mreddesigner/index.html 00:20:44 xah_lee [n=x_a_h@c-24-6-175-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:20:50 any recommendation for a sci fi flick of recent year? :) 00:22:01 xah_lee, of CLS fame? 00:22:22 xah_lee: IT CAME FROM CALL/CC 00:22:45 *xah_lee* lol 00:23:02 xah_lee: Do you mean movie or TV Series? 00:23:04 the monster is called INTERCAL 00:23:05 can irc offer voice chat someday? 00:23:10 arcfide: movie 00:23:18 xah_lee: Oh, sorry, no recommendations then. 00:23:20 I guess THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE is sort of about escape procedures. 00:23:50 seen poseidon... not sure that's the same one... 00:24:05 (Not sci fi, and most definitely not recent.) 00:24:13 ah yes. it's not so good though. 00:24:36 Unless you have a huge jones for Ernest Borgnine, I agree. 00:24:36 -!- neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:25:26 ah... i got confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon_(film) haven't see the adv one 00:25:31 synthase [n=synthase@c-69-243-234-165.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:26:11 am thinking more sci fi, like super herons, actions, mecha... or maybe anime 00:26:30 JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 00:26:36 xah_lee: Karas? 00:27:28 umm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karas_(anime) maybe that's good 00:27:39 Great Visuals. 00:28:19 -!- clausewitz [n=th@0x535b95eb.kjnxx11.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:28:54 I enjoyed IRON MAN. But I'm thirteen years old in most aspects. You can probably do better. 00:29:23 -!- bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-124-131.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:29:58 Daemmerung: lol. i also liked iron man. 00:30:27 bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-124-131.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 00:30:35 the scifi anime i seen recently is AppleSeed exima 00:30:45 not bad as such goes 00:31:09 Riastradh: ping, rdf mail. 00:31:54 *zbigniew* finishes writing a form-driven TSO interface to track the fully-qualified LU6.2 name 00:34:54 ok, let's chat scheme 00:34:57 see http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_frm/thread/761fe827c8c9ea5e# 00:34:58 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/8cpecy 00:35:06 it'd be good to give sample code 00:36:26 in 1 hr, i can hack out in perl, php, elisp, python, mathematica 00:36:35 -!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:36:48 though, if you look at the ruby code there, it illustrates 2 fundamental problems of lisp 00:37:04 A: the cons problem. B: the nested syntax. 00:38:08 Huh? 00:38:11 What's the problem here? 00:38:17 The CONS problem, man! 00:38:18 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 00:38:39 -!- JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has left #scheme 00:40:49 I guess CONS problem is the problem that occurs when the Ruby author doesn't test his code, and therefore doesn't realize he's creating lists of strings, instead of lists of integers. 00:40:55 It's an acronym. 00:41:23 minion: what does CONS stand for? 00:41:24 Ceaselessness Osselet Nonportable Slipshodness 00:41:30 zbigniew: don't know ruby in detail, but it's trivial to convert 00:42:10 xah_lee: I can solve any problem easily, as long as the answer is wrong. 00:42:16 Carefully optimize necessary subroutines 00:43:54 offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 00:45:35 for example, here's the equivalent to the Ruby in csi 00:45:43 #;2> (map string-split (read-lines "blob.txt")) 00:45:43 (("1" "2" "3") ("4" "5" "6") ("7" "8")) 00:45:57 It's that damn CONS problem. 00:46:26 Correct oracles need sacrifices 00:46:40 zbigniew: post ur code 00:47:22 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 00:47:38 No. 00:50:03 -!- aack [n=user@s559195f7.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:50:12 zbigniew: if u love scheme or lisp, u must 00:50:13 -!- maodun [n=stopgo@c-67-180-49-1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:50:20 u see, that's the prob with schemers 00:50:44 That we don't crosspost? 00:50:55 also, do convert your string to num so its correct 00:51:26 -!- jao [n=user@81.Red-83-33-179.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #scheme 00:53:02 hdon [n=donny@174-146-134-148.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #scheme 00:54:34 (map (lambda (x) (map string->number (string-split x))) (read-lines "blob.txt")) 00:54:47 nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12.152.199.77] has joined #scheme 00:54:52 *zbigniew* goes back to cooking dinner 00:56:59 zbigniew: read-lines is cool. maybe i'll write one for elisp 00:57:26 rudybot: eval (map (lambda (x) (map string->number (string-split x))) "fee fi fo fum\nyo ho ho\nget bent") 00:57:26 offby1: error: map: expects type as 2nd argument, given: "fee fi fo fum\nyo ho ho\nget bent"; other arguments were: # 00:57:55 rudybot: eval (map (lambda (x) (map string->number (string-split x))) (list "fee fi fo fum" "yo ho ho" "get bent")) 00:57:55 offby1: error: reference to undefined identifier: string-split 00:57:58 *sigh* 00:58:05 I said it was for Chicken ;) 01:00:13 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [No route to host] 01:01:01 who listens? 01:01:02 Not me 01:01:13 offby1: i knew it's got probs. lol 01:02:07 incubot speaks Chicken. 01:02:20 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:02:29 Or it would speak Chicken, were it around. Hey klutometis! 01:03:02 I've gone to cheaper hosting for rudybot so I'm glad "he" is still around. 01:03:06 offby1: if you want, rip read-lines from http://planet.plt-scheme.org/package-source/dherman/io.plt/1/9/io.ss 01:03:18 I could save even more money by just running it at home but where would the fun be in that? 01:03:35 zbigniew: I think there's effectively the same thing built in now. 01:03:51 offby1: what is it called? 01:03:58 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:04:24 But then IRC nerds harassing your bot would steal precious bandwidth from your bittorrent leeching or whatever. 01:04:43 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 01:04:50 rudybot: eval (for/list ([l (in-lines (open-input-string "fee fi fo fum\nyo ho ho\nget bent"))]) (string-append l "!!")) 01:04:51 offby1: ; Value: ("fee fi fo fum!!" "yo ho ho!!" "get bent!!") 01:05:03 Daemmerung: I know; it's a dilemma 01:05:05 ok 01:06:35 Perhaps incubot's pimp-daddy will invest some shekels in hosting incubot. Because this channel deserves it. 01:07:05 rudybot: eval (map (lambda (x) (string-append x "!!")) (regexp-split #px"\n" "fee fi fo fum\nyo ho ho\nget bent")) 01:07:05 zbigniew: ; Value: ("fee fi fo fum!!" "yo ho ho!!" "get bent!!") 01:07:23 zbigniew: yeah, but that's somehow ... I dunno. 01:07:25 Too easy. 01:07:35 mmm 01:19:48 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:21:42 -!- g0ju [n=moo@dslb-088-072-044-018.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 01:22:59 -!- alaricsp [n=alaricsp@217.205.201.45] has quit [] 01:23:54 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 01:25:58 drdo2 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 01:27:20 -!- drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:28:23 offby1: The new thing you were referring to is `port->lines' or `file->lines'. 01:30:44 -!- johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 01:41:29 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:41:36 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:42:26 underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 01:44:21 -!- drdo2 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:44:28 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 01:44:54 yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:46:25 rudybot: eval (map (lambda (x) (string-append x "!!")) (port->lines (open-input-string "fee fi fo fum\nyo ho ho\nget bent"))) 01:46:25 zbigniew: ; Value: ("fee fi fo fum!!" "yo ho ho!!" 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Unless you're dealing with some ABI that expects it in a certain state (stack traces etc.), I'd tend to agree. 04:23:50 bpalmer [n=user@unaffiliated/bpalmer] has joined #scheme 04:26:55 -!- JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 04:29:23 -!- yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:33:35 karlw [n=user@adsl-99-157-202-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 04:37:25 yhara [n=yhara@p1118-ipbf05matsue.shimane.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 04:38:40 -!- yhara [n=yhara@p1118-ipbf05matsue.shimane.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 04:43:41 underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 04:43:42 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:58:39 -!- karlw [n=user@adsl-99-157-202-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #scheme 05:01:52 -!- _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:09:27 -!- ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@59.172.141.21] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 05:09:48 ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@59.172.141.21] has joined #scheme 05:17:08 Daemmerung: Just in general, for a VM. 05:18:16 -!- nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12.152.199.77] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:18:55 demaut [n=gord@bas1-ottawa23-1167871574.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 05:20:49 -!- demaut [n=gord@bas1-ottawa23-1167871574.dsl.bell.ca] has left #scheme 05:22:34 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:22:42 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:25:05 -!- Arelius [n=Indy@209.77.67.98] has quit [] 05:27:50 tjafk1 [n=timj@e176213188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:27:52 -!- tjafk2 [n=timj@e176223220.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:34:35 -!- kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:43:17 raikov [n=igr@186.75.145.122.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 05:47:14 yhara [n=yhara@p1118-ipbf05matsue.shimane.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 05:48:13 la la la 05:48:22 pantsd_ [n=hkarau@acesulfame-potassium.csclub.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 05:48:27 -!- yhara [n=yhara@p1118-ipbf05matsue.shimane.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 05:48:27 -!- pantsd_ is now known as hoboninja 05:49:08 l 05:49:27 jberg [n=moo@241.84-48-213.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 05:50:05 Hey guys, I'm having some problems with plt webserver hosting this java applet. 05:50:24 Can you check it out: http://scheme.hello2u.info/ninja.html 05:50:53 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 05:51:11 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-1-44.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 05:56:26 mjonsson [n=mjonsson@pool-71-175-134-12.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:59:33 yhara [n=yhara@p1118-ipbf05matsue.shimane.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 06:02:48 kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has joined #scheme 06:02:55 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-237-96.dsl.look.ca] has quit ["Where is the glory in complying with demands?"] 06:05:00 -!- rcy [n=rcy@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 06:05:18 rcy [n=rcy@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 06:08:29 hmm, what exactly is plt scheme? a dialect of scheme? an enviroment which includes dr scheme? or what? 06:11:55 plt scheme is PLT's implementation of scheme 06:12:06 drscheme and mzscheme both use it, I believe 06:13:38 and what is PLT? 06:18:20 the people that produce PLT scheme? ;) 06:21:26 pork, lettuce and tomato sandwich 06:21:47 ... where the pork is nice and lean, and the tomatoes are ripe... they're so perky, i love that 06:28:47 kniu [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 06:33:49 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-71-226-66-93.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:36:43 -!- yhara [n=yhara@p1118-ipbf05matsue.shimane.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:39:58 jso [n=user@host-9-143-107-208.midco.net] has joined #scheme 06:48:16 -!- raikov [n=igr@186.75.145.122.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:50:08 antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 06:53:16 -!- hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD125054017176.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit ["|_ e /\ \/ i |/| G"] 06:55:59 annodomini [n=lambda@72-255-6-113.client.stsn.net] has joined #scheme 06:56:03 -!- johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:58:29 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 07:01:21 HG` [n=wells@118.82.169.165] has joined #scheme 07:03:03 hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has joined #scheme 07:04:13 in chicken.scm, I can have the first line of blah.scm be "#!/usr/local/bin/csi" and have csi interpret my scheme script; however, I want the options "csi -q -s, but having the first line be "#!/usr/local/bin/csci -q -s" results in errors 07:07:33 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 07:07:58 maybe because there's no such program as 'csci' ? 07:11:50 in my script i actully have: "#!/usr/local/bin/csci -q -s" 07:11:59 Also, -s implies -q, and -s is required in the first place 07:12:00 does /usr/local/bin/csci exist? 07:12:03 NO 07:12:38 -!- HG` [n=wells@118.82.169.165] has left #scheme 07:12:57 #!/usr/local/bin/csi -s 07:13:04 and you're done 07:16:20 let me guess, the error message (posting this would help next time) is something like: /usr/local/bin/csci: bad interpreter: No such file or directory 07:16:51 minion: advice for hml 07:16:52 hml: #11913: Gee, I don't know. 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I find it neither in r5rs.pdf nor chicken.pdf 08:23:04 it's in R6RS and some srfi 08:23:27 but it wont work :) 08:23:41 well it will, but not really useful 08:23:50 leppie: It doesn't handle #<...> inside some other valid object. 08:24:01 yeah foof, just noticed :) 08:27:31 -!- drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:29:25 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 08:33:08 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:33:14 drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 08:33:29 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:51:16 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 08:52:32 jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-143-29.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 08:55:18 -!- CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:07:50 ejs [n=eugen@77-109-30-215.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 09:13:27 is there a way to check if the output of (format "~A" ...) will result in a # ? 09:13:37 (w/o printig it out and doing a string comparison) 09:18:58 dlurf [n=dlurf@c83-249-224-126.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 09:19:51 yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 09:23:49 -!- xwl [n=user@125.33.194.176] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:31:16 CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 09:32:43 schmalbe [n=bernhard@p549A2A91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 09:39:39 jberg- [n=moo@241.84-48-213.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 09:42:07 -!- bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-124-131.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:49:01 -!- Gorgoroth [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 09:49:57 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 09:55:20 -!- Kusanagi is now known as Motoko_K 09:55:53 -!- Motoko_K is now known as Kusanagi 09:57:32 -!- jberg [n=moo@241.84-48-213.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:57:49 jberg [n=moo@241.84-48-213.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 09:59:35 -!- jberg- [n=moo@241.84-48-213.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:00:36 -!- dlurf [n=dlurf@c83-249-224-126.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 10:01:51 athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has joined #scheme 10:04:34 drdo2 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 10:06:22 -!- drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:17:55 -!- wy_ [i=wy@iub-vpn-195-191.noc.indiana.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:19:59 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:34:09 vixey [n=vicky@amcant.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 10:37:31 attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #scheme 10:41:52 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 10:42:13 -!- drdo2 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:00:10 drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 11:00:27 _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has joined #scheme 11:14:43 drdo2 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 11:14:50 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:18:22 -!- drdo2 is now known as drdo 11:21:56 -!- _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 11:29:59 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:30:22 -!- drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:35:01 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 11:45:28 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit ["Leaving."] 11:46:32 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 11:50:25 Mr-Cat [n=chatzill@78-106-88-97.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 11:51:09 What is the best way to produce sequence of numbers, like [x..y] in haskell? 11:51:52 (dot-dot x y) 11:53:01 Found myself - there is 'iota' in srfi-1 11:53:06 rudybot: eval (iota 5) 11:53:08 foof: error: reference to undefined identifier: iota 11:53:41 Mr-Cat, ok 11:54:30 rudybot: eval (make-list 4 1) 11:54:30 Mr-Cat: error: reference to undefined identifier: make-list 11:54:46 foof: rudy does not have srfi-1 loaded 11:56:32 rudybot: eval (require (lib "1.ss" "srfi")) 11:56:55 rudybot: eval (make-list 4 1) 11:56:55 Mr-Cat: ; Value: (1 1 1 1) 11:57:23 Mr-Cat: Thanks, I was looking for that. I had enough time remembering the 3.x mzscheme require syntax, and the change just confused me more. 11:57:25 rudybot: eval (iota 5) 11:57:25 Mr-Cat: ; Value: (0 1 2 3 4) 11:57:45 -!- synthase [n=synthase@c-69-243-234-165.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:57:48 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:57:52 ... and looking at the docs provides no help at all. Examples, people, examples! They're more important than descriptive docs! 11:58:10 would be nice if R5RS had specified a way to load SRFIs.. 12:01:37 foof: I think the preferred way now is (require srfi/1) 12:01:39 rudybot: eval (apply + (drop (iota 11) 1)) 12:01:39 Mr-Cat: ; Value: 55 12:01:50 drdo` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 12:05:02 drdo`` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 12:06:15 -!- johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 12:06:38 Heh, OS X's speech synthesizer gets the pronunciation of "SRFI" right :) 12:07:04 iFags! 12:07:08 *drdo``* runs 12:07:16 orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFBC17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 12:07:21 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:07:27 -!- drdo`` is now known as drdo 12:07:37 dzhus [n=sphinx@93.81.149.30] has joined #scheme 12:12:30 |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 12:15:00 'iFags'? 12:15:37 drdo, ok so you basically just said "I read DIGG" to me 12:15:49 bc. I look up that term and found digg 12:16:20 mejja [n=user@c-4bb5e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 12:18:56 drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 12:18:57 -!- drdo1 [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:21:31 -!- drdo` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:27:56 Heh, digg is lamer than OS X :P 12:30:00 drdo` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 12:30:41 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 12:30:46 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:33:13 -!- Mr-Cat [n=chatzill@78-106-88-97.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]"] 12:38:59 pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 12:43:10 -!- error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:53:35 -!- pchrist_ [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:55:34 pitui [n=pitui@c-76-98-192-104.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 13:02:07 ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has joined #scheme 13:08:40 xwl [n=user@125.33.194.176] has joined #scheme 13:09:06 Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-1-190.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 13:09:55 -!- ejs [n=eugen@77-109-30-215.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:12:45 -!- jso [n=user@host-9-143-107-208.midco.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:15:30 -!- Elly [n=elly@unaffiliated/elly] has quit [lem.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 13:15:30 -!- gaja [n=Gabriel@c-0689e555.017-40-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [lem.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 13:15:30 -!- ricky [n=ricky@fedora/ricky] has quit [lem.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 13:15:30 -!- eli [n=eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [lem.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 13:15:45 ricky [n=ricky@fedora/ricky] has joined #scheme 13:15:45 eli [n=eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 13:15:45 gaja [n=Gabriel@c-0689e555.017-40-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 13:15:45 Elly [n=elly@unaffiliated/elly] has joined #scheme 13:28:58 jah [n=jah@11.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #scheme 13:36:49 hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD125054017176.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 13:38:07 -!- jah [n=jah@11.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 13:38:45 nickgibbon [n=nickgibb@CPE-124-191-40-218.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #scheme 13:39:30 -!- |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:43:18 nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12.152.199.77] has joined #scheme 13:43:58 dsmith [i=hevu7s0e@cpe-71-74-230-225.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:56:37 |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:57:47 xwl` [n=user@221.221.154.3] has joined #scheme 13:58:37 -!- drdo` is now known as drdo 14:01:36 -!- xwl [n=user@125.33.194.176] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:02:19 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:07:08 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 14:07:27 -!- hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:10:25 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Success] 14:10:38 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 14:11:30 Jimi__Hendrix [n=Jimi__He@unaffiliated/jimihendrix/x-735601] has joined #scheme 14:12:44 someone linked me a book a while back it had a blue cover about the structure of programming or something...good tutorial but i cant find it 14:14:52 Jimi__Hendrix, maybe ##SICP knows? 14:15:57 annodomini [n=lambda@72-255-6-113.client.stsn.net] has joined #scheme 14:16:11 fine well whats the advised scheme tutorial/book? 14:16:35 "fine"? 14:16:51 ... 14:17:13 clausewitz [n=th@0x535b95eb.kjnxx11.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #scheme 14:17:35 -!- dzhus [n=sphinx@93.81.149.30] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:18:10 whats the advised scheme tutorial/book? 14:18:15 what is* 14:20:49 The Dybvig book is quite good if you're only after a Scheme tutorial. 14:21:45 it free and online? the one i was looking for was 14:23:14 I read the 3rd edition but I notice that the 2nd edition from '96 is available online. Might not be the one you're looking for. 14:23:25 ok and also what version of scheme should a beginner use? 14:23:50 The SICP Video Lectures are very nice imo 14:24:12 3rd Edition full-text: http://www.scheme.com/tspl3/ 14:24:31 ok 14:25:37 so should i use mit-scheme...mzscheme...chicken scheme...what 14:28:27 -!- nickgibbon [n=nickgibb@CPE-124-191-40-218.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:34:19 fnord123_ [n=fnord123@78-105-27-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 14:35:52 -!- clausewitz [n=th@0x535b95eb.kjnxx11.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:37:34 synthase [n=synthase@c-69-243-234-165.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:37:54 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 14:47:26 -!- pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:47:49 -!- sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:47:57 anyone 14:49:40 bueller? 14:49:54 -!- fnord123 [n=fnord123@host81-151-192-51.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:53:26 NorthStar [i=email@89.180.132.5] has joined #scheme 14:54:35 ? 15:08:53 -!- ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@59.172.141.21] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:15:47 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 15:26:10 Jimi__Hendrix: any of Chicken, Gambit, Gauche, MIT-Scheme, MzScheme, Scheme48, SISC 15:27:03 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit ["bbl"] 15:27:03 -!- nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12.152.199.77] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:33:00 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-1-190.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:35:39 doesnt matter? 15:36:05 Fufie [n=Frog@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 15:36:13 only one of them actually works, if you use the wrong one you will be trapped in the labyrinth forever! 15:39:44 and what editors work well with scheme 15:40:36 vimacs is pretty good 15:40:55 :( I just made it up but it's real 15:41:01 vimacs? 15:41:17 my favorite thing for writing Scheme is paredit 15:41:20 and thats not made up 15:41:25 paredit rocks 15:41:41 emacs works well with scheme, as it does with most languages 15:42:36 http://community.schemewiki.org/?emacs-tutorial 15:52:27 -!- yhara [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:56:01 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Success] 15:57:10 bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-123-213.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 15:59:44 -!- mejja [n=user@c-4bb5e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:01:00 Life w/o Paredit is the way life w/o Emacs used to be. 16:16:12 error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 16:17:00 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:17:22 jgracin_ [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 16:17:25 fnord123 [n=fnord123@78-105-27-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 16:17:33 -!- fnord123_ [n=fnord123@78-105-27-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:18:17 name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has joined #scheme 16:24:03 clausewitz [n=th@0x535b95eb.kjnxx11.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #scheme 16:24:43 _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has joined #scheme 16:26:41 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:29:36 -!- xwl` [n=user@221.221.154.3] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:30:12 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 16:35:35 -!- rotty [n=rotty@chello084114192192.1.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:35:48 -!- error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 16:42:41 -!- NorthStar [i=email@89.180.132.5] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:43:07 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 16:49:20 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 16:51:04 paredit? 16:51:14 how is vim with scheme 16:51:22 don't ask one word questions 16:51:35 And don't ask an hour later 16:51:51 And don't ask with your mouth full. Chew, swallow, then ask. 16:52:07 Of course, that too 16:52:14 what is paredit? 16:52:18 how is vim with scheme? 16:52:30 *Jimi__Hendrix* swallows 16:52:35 wrong order 16:52:38 Paredit is a package for Emacs. 16:52:55 It provides structured editing of S-expressions. 16:53:04 http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=paredit 16:53:46 minion: advice for Jimi__Hendrix 16:53:47 Jimi__Hendrix: #11917: Read. Learn. Evolve. 16:54:14 ok 16:54:23 vim any good for emacs? 16:54:29 is vim* 16:54:30 jah [n=jah@11.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #scheme 16:54:41 Heh. 16:54:42 yeah, just type :!emacs 16:54:47 It's pretty good for emacs 16:55:01 A shell is better, though 16:55:24 Jimi__Hendrix: there are some Vim users hereabouts, but I can't name any from memory. They seem to do well enough. 16:55:49 rotty [n=rotty@chello084114192192.1.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #scheme 16:56:53 If you're comfortable with vim, by all means use it. That way you only have one thing to learn (Scheme) instead of two. 16:58:47 foof, I just tested speech in TextEdit, and it pronounced `SRFI' incorrectly. 16:59:16 foof, ah, lowercase `srfi' it pronounces correctly. 16:59:18 -!- offby1-quassel [n=quassel@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:59:41 offby1-quassel [n=quassel@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 16:59:48 Srfring srfitash! 17:01:18 NorthStar [i=email@89.180.200.184] has joined #scheme 17:01:28 what advantage does emacs have when it comes to writting scheme? 17:03:58 ? 17:04:42 good integration between major and minor modes? 17:05:03 *foof* is experimenting with a sort of manual emacsspeak to read aloud IRC messages when he's afk 17:05:44 dmoerner, which means what to a non emacs user? 17:05:56 Jimi__Hendrix: what are you coming from? 17:06:00 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 17:06:54 vim 17:07:59 in emacs, i set it up with two frames, one containing a buffer with the code, and another containing a buffer running a scheme interpreter 17:08:23 i can then have it send s-exps between them with trivial commands, i'm not sure what your setup is in vim 17:09:20 -!- _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:10:29 ok...how would i do that in emacs (i have it installed i just dont use it) 17:10:44 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit [Client Quit] 17:12:14 -!- |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 17:12:27 Jimi__Hendrix: you might be interested in http://community.schemewiki.org/?emacs-tutorial 17:12:44 thanks...and whats the scheme file extension? 17:13:10 .scm 17:13:32 ok 17:22:28 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 17:22:54 bweaver [n=bweaver@c-68-59-241-190.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:25:02 nan8 [n=user@dslb-088-067-040-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 17:28:27 1 last question...function to output text? (tutorials never show it) 17:29:22 write 17:30:00 |jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:30:31 -!- jah [n=jah@11.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 17:31:01 (write "foo") 17:31:54 -!- clausewitz [n=th@0x535b95eb.kjnxx11.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 17:34:24 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 17:34:37 Get a better tutorial. SICP, TSPL, and TYSiFD all show "it." TLS doesn't, but by the time you finish TLS you'll be able to figure it out on your own. 17:34:58 ok 17:35:35 and anyone know why mit-scheme might be complaining about not finding a readable default for option --band 17:36:35 (If you just want to output human-readable text, `display' is the procedure you want.) 17:36:39 r5rs display 17:36:39 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_624 17:36:41 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/7rd27g 17:37:02 gibsonf1 [n=user@122.167.26.221] has joined #scheme 17:38:23 That URL points into a standards document for the most common version of least-common-denominator Scheme. You will want to read that document at some point. 17:41:16 sreeram [n=sreeram@122.164.251.0] has joined #scheme 17:45:22 Jimi__Hendrix: What is the problem you are having with MIT Scheme? 17:45:55 He can't see it through the purple haze. 17:46:22 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 17:46:31 lol 17:48:25 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-132-189-132.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["..."] 17:53:44 Fare [n=Fare@c-71-232-6-92.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:54:51 -!- sreeram [n=sreeram@122.164.251.0] has quit [] 17:55:03 sreeram [n=sreeram@122.164.251.0] has joined #scheme 17:58:11 back sorry 17:59:32 mit-scheme is complaining about not finding a readable default for option --band then it says it terminated from inconsistency 18:01:31 bweaver_ [n=bweaver@c-67-161-236-94.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:03:48 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:06:25 drdo 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