00:03:51 -!- krat3r [n=krat@wifi.ist.utl.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 00:04:14 -!- chturne [n=charlie@host86-139-71-1.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:05:05 -!- bweaver [n=bweaver@75.148.111.133] has quit [] 00:10:27 gnomon [n=gnomon@CPE001d60dffa5c-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 00:13:32 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 00:20:24 annodomini [n=lambda@129.170.131.195] has joined #scheme 00:21:39 -!- vixey [n=vicky@amcant.demon.co.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:22:22 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has quit ["leaving"] 00:23:15 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Client Quit] 00:24:44 annodomini [n=lambda@64.30.3.122] has joined #scheme 00:29:38 -!- hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD125054017176.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit ["|_ e /\ \/ i |/| G"] 00:30:27 jxonas_ [n=jxonas@201.82.239.53] has joined #scheme 00:31:45 I hate highlevel languages ))) Wrote 67 lines of scheme in 6 hours and now I'm totally exhausted )) 00:33:34 Mr-Cat: woah; time to head back to jmp and mov for you 00:34:17 also, who counts lines? 00:36:26 klutometis: Well, I'm thinking of switching to C for a while )) 00:37:02 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 00:37:22 Also, counting lines is a good way to make yourself work more )) 00:38:24 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:39:15 and harder 00:39:20 what does )) mean 00:39:56 Mr-Cat: had some unfinished expressions in his code, needed to cut loose with the )s 00:40:04 jonrafkind: multiplication of chins 00:40:16 im not sure what emotion multiple chins represents 00:40:24 "more tacos" ?? 00:40:26 satisfaction, jaba the hut style 00:40:53 either that, or he's developed a paren tick 00:41:10 LMAO 00:41:18 Just a smile in fact 00:41:38 Looks like two dis-enfaced smiles to me 00:41:42 Mr-Cat, what life form are you? 00:41:56 It's much easier to type than :) 00:41:57 do you have pictures of your species? 00:42:33 and "m" is much easier to type then the word much, but that doesn't mean it carries the same meaning. 00:43:06 or leaving out the smilies out alltogether is easier still. 00:43:17 jonrafkind: Google rules: http://images.google.ru/images?q=Mr-Cat 00:44:07 im going with this one: http://www.allshowtime.com/images/characters/OtherCharacters/Mr_Cat_JPG.jpg 00:44:08 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/9nsby8 00:44:26 Arelius: Ok. Next time I will never use '))' when you are online. ;) 00:45:46 -!- jxonas_ is now known as jxonas 00:45:59 here you go: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.licensed2knit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/cheshire-cat-i.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ourball.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D181326&h=567&w=340&sz=35&tbnid=_XJeMbU13QrKfM::&tbnh=134&tbnw=80&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcheshire%2Bcat&usg=__VhC7qAscYWmIEGvzGj3Qco62kFc=&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image&cd=1 00:46:00 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/9bac6x 00:46:19 )) 00:46:21 I personally don't care, I'll just ignore them untill someone else brings them up, but the point is that they convey little information. 00:49:02 Arelius: Well, I think all smiles convey little information. 00:50:17 I ment to imply that )) conveys significantly less, considering it's hard to tell it's actually a smily at all, and if it is, which emotion it is ment to convey, as was mentioned, it seems to be more of a double chin emote. 00:52:12 also, i autistically want to close the parens from the left; and experience cognitive dissonance 00:52:16 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:52:29 =P 00:53:17 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 00:53:23 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:54:52 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:55:48 Ok ok. I should have known, that schemers are sensitive to parens. 00:56:34 Heh, It can be difficult at times seeing those and no matching open parens 00:58:05 incubot: ))) 00:58:44 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 00:59:11 rudybot: )) 00:59:16 rudybot: eval )) 00:59:17 Mr-Cat: error: eval:1:0: read: unexpected `)' 01:00:05 See, that's my problem 01:05:37 r2q2 [n=user@c-24-7-212-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:06:14 -!- sam__ [n=Sami__@e81-197-69-201.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 01:07:22 annodomini [n=lambda@64.30.3.122] has joined #scheme 01:07:51 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B057010.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:08:06 annodomini_ [n=lambda@129.170.131.195] has joined #scheme 01:08:14 -!- Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:08:49 maodun [n=stopgo@c-67-180-49-1.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:10:06 Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-4-219.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 01:19:56 hey anybody know where I can find a petri net program for scheme? 01:20:02 I remember seeing it before. 01:20:59 -!- amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:21:07 -!- Axioplase_ is now known as Axioplase 01:21:13 amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #scheme 01:22:36 -!- jxonas [n=jxonas@201.82.239.53] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 01:25:33 M-x ocd-expand 01:25:37 (((((((((((((( 01:25:42 phew 01:25:54 petri net? 01:26:05 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:26:25 stuff that grows in petri dishes. 01:26:40 I want a scheme implementation with an object system, recommendations? :) 01:27:08 0.o 01:27:21 anyscheme 01:27:24 Recommendation: Identify the real problem you're trying to solve, drdo, rather than going on wild goose chases for informationless terms such as `object system'. 01:27:27 I assume a petri net is some kind of fetish device used to catch rock-solid objects, such as Natalie Portman 01:28:07 man you guys crack me up 01:28:10 incubot: do you know of a good scheme object system? 01:28:13 few minor things, mostly in the object dumper itself. 01:28:33 incubot: define OO. 01:28:35 you don't need (define list F), either 01:28:43 bleh. 01:29:20 incubot: blarg 01:29:22 with the current behaviour, you know that in an invocation such as (foo bar baz blarg) foo will be operating on 3 values. 01:30:07 -!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:30:22 incubot: eval (call-with-values (lambda () (values 'bar 'baz 'blarg)) (lambda x (length x))) 01:30:22 3 01:31:27 christ; someone let the cat out of the bag today that i've been programming in scheme at work for the last couple months 01:31:38 oh shi-- 01:31:44 there was a general sense of awe; but shit has yet to hit the fan 01:31:50 *klutometis* waiteth nervously 01:31:59 this is why you never tell anyone anything, ever 01:32:14 exactly; problem is, someone discovered my git repo 01:32:26 uhoh 01:32:32 it feels so...subversive 01:32:37 is this also their first exposure to DVCSes? 01:32:43 apparently 01:32:44 stupid git 01:32:49 oh, good luck 01:32:57 ah. where I've worked, no one would have the faintest idea what a 'repository' is 01:33:06 *Elly* spent last summer spreading the gospel of haskell + darcs at work, and managed to switch several people to both from C and svn ;) 01:33:20 klutometis: What sort of work have you been using scheme for? 01:33:20 Elly: nice; yeah, i figure this will be make or break 01:33:39 Arelius: mainly translation of docbook into latex 01:33:42 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:33:47 Ahh I see 01:33:49 it was so damn easy with SXSL 01:33:51 -!- annodomini_ [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 01:33:54 since xml is basically a lisp 01:34:08 Elly: I hope your repositories are no bigger than about 10 files... 01:34:43 zbigniew: darcs scales fine 01:34:50 uh huh 01:35:00 I stuck linux in it; it took about 15 minutes for the initial commit, then it was fast afterwards 01:36:34 xml could bascially be a lisp, I'd hardly call it a lisp 01:37:05 XML is also a tree structure 01:37:13 I think that's kind of where the similarity ends :P 01:37:27 -!- elmex [n=elmex@e180069098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:38:25 That's not to say it's not trivial to work with XML with a lisp, but I doubt you could call the reverse true. 01:39:42 klutometis: yes, it is fun and surprisingly easy to transform (S)XML... and straightforward to write a transformer (if you don't want to use oleg's stuff for some reason) 01:40:05 Arelius: i'm trying to decipher what the reverse would even mean; a sort of xml-lisp dsl? 01:40:16 zbigniew: yeah; oleg's stuff is beautiful. seriously, i head angels 01:40:25 but i had been thinking of doing it with a simple map 01:40:33 heard* 01:40:40 I suspect something as such 01:40:54 a Lisp written in XML instead of Sexpression 01:41:33 possible, nevertheless; even if awkward. in fact, i wonder if you could dress it up with jargon and sell it to the java crowd (or anyone stuck in the 90s) 01:41:42 *klutometis* thinks DSSSL 01:42:36 klutometis: I suspect it would sell to java crowd well, and If I didn't have such disdain for XML I might look into it more. 01:42:42 but I really dislike XML 01:42:59 i'm sure there is lisp implemented in XSL somewhere outthere... 01:43:05 *Elly* also really dislikes XML 01:43:12 sladegen: greenspun's tenth! 01:44:12 it should be trivial to transform XML into S-expressions and run it through a standard lisp eval 01:44:21 i'm thinking more along the brainfuck design exercise lines. 01:44:36 it should be, but I bet XML's actual syntax is nightmarishly complex to get right 01:45:58 Elly: but did you import the history too? 01:46:08 bpt: no, I didn't care about it 01:49:11 annodomini [n=lambda@64.30.3.122] has joined #scheme 01:49:17 Riastradh: are you too lazy to supplement your style rules with forward-slash semantics? 01:50:10 annodomini_ [n=lambda@erlang.Kiewit.Dartmouth.EDU] has joined #scheme 01:50:44 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:51:07 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 01:59:41 -!- annodomini_ [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 02:02:36 ozy` [n=vt920@pool-71-184-104-97.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:08:11 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:14:18 klutometis: Oleg's approach--as you know, take a 'stylesheet' (association list mapping tag symbols to procedures, along with special symbols *text* *default* *preorder* *macro* &c.) and traverse the sxml tree post-order (or pre-, depending on the stylesheet). 02:14:31 --is pretty solid. 02:15:51 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:18:27 klutometis: I found I was using *macro* extremely heavily, so I wrote a simple variant in which the transformer just initiates a pre-order traversal via (proc (car x) (cdr x)), and the procedures re-call the parser to continue the traversal (same strategy as Oleg's *preorder* directive). 02:21:12 Also, all the procedures receive the current stylesheet--so the call is actually (proc (car x) (cdr x) ss)--each procedure may then pass along the existing stylesheet, or modify or replace it before passing it along. 02:22:09 It seemed to work reasonably well. 02:24:50 gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has joined #scheme 02:43:54 rcy [n=rcy@S01060002553240a8.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 02:44:13 jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:47:28 qmrw [n=avida@beigetower/jaene] has joined #scheme 02:48:30 lambda 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two basic grammar problems in the first sentence :p 04:13:07 Blum-Shub-Smale sounds like the love child of JRR Tolkien and HP Lovecraft 04:13:13 yes haha 04:13:50 *jcowan* nods. 04:14:33 okay there are just too many errors in the text for me to understand whats going on 04:18:47 -!- mfredrickson [n=mfredric@c-98-212-171-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:27:33 *jcowan* wonders what an Arthur-Merlin protocol is 04:27:50 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:27:54 *jcowan* reads about it 04:29:24 -!- X-Scale [i=email@89.180.199.141] has left #scheme 04:33:43 foof [n=user@c-68-36-144-62.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:42:55 *foof* prods the lifeless channel 04:43:27 * the channel comes back to life and tries to kick foof 04:45:14 jcowan: its used in automated theorem provers 04:45:21 jcowan: I tried to write a random version. 04:45:24 I'm reading about it at Wikipedia 04:45:26 I don't think its arthur merlin 04:45:43 I think its just a random turing machine with a terminating condition 04:47:08 jcowan: It utilizes a las vegas algorithm on graphs 04:58:38 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@wireless9.wireless.utah.edu] has quit [Success] 05:04:31 -!- Student [n=Magical@5ac32715.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:08:25 -!- kazzmir_ [n=kazzmir@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:13:03 jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:17:28 -!- glogic [n=rm@97.76.48.99] has quit ["leaving"] 05:18:13 glogic [n=rm@97.76.48.99] has joined #scheme 05:18:33 johnnowak [n=johnnowa@207-38-171-48.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 05:23:11 I think the chunking feature of irregex is interesting. It is something they have not even put into Perl after all this time. 05:25:21 -!- kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:27:34 -!- tjafk [n=timj@e176196252.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:27:37 tjafk1 [n=timj@e176203203.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:28:25 eno [n=eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #scheme 05:28:34 -!- raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:30:28 isomer`` [n=isomer@CPE001310e6cb31-CM0011aec5e684.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 05:31:35 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-4-219.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:35:06 incubot: I'm in love with your daughter; I want to have her babies 05:35:08 kazzmir_ [n=kazzmir@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:35:09 (I noted that one because it reminds me of my daughter.) 05:37:06 -!- isomer [n=isomer@CPE001310e6cb31-CM0011aec5e684.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:37:28 Incubi don't have daughters, I don't think. 05:37:52 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Bailing out"] 05:45:32 incubot: do incubi have daughters? 05:45:34 which would be near Russ & Daughters too ... *sigh* 05:45:48 incubot: do incubi incubate offspring? 05:45:50 mandrake is a redhat offspring 05:46:55 raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has joined #scheme 05:49:06 pjb3 [n=pjb3@c-76-100-98-185.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:53:26 zbigniew: that's fantastic; i noticed that very pattern coming up during this last project, too 05:53:38 dudrenov [n=user@c-69-181-124-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:58:56 -!- gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has left #scheme 06:01:08 -!- Axioplase [n=Pied@watchdog.msi.co.jp] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 06:05:22 incubot: I hope you don't mind if we elope. 06:05:24 dunno who monica is, but I pay a bit of attention to chandler, in the hope that it'll some day become a usable calendar. 06:09:09 -!- r2q2 [n=user@c-24-7-212-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:14:21 Daemmeru` [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has joined #scheme 06:16:02 incubot: call Brasi, it's time for a fluid-letting 06:16:05 I don't really trust (set! x (make-fluid (+ (fluid x) 1))) to work correctly. 06:16:27 incubot, frog blast the vent core! 06:16:29 'S'ok, that's the great thing about leaving messages for people: you won't be around, so he'll have to vent his anger elsewhere! 06:17:19 Axioplase [n=Pied@watchdog.msi.co.jp] has joined #scheme 06:17:19 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-235-98.dsl.look.ca] has quit ["Where is the glory in complying with demands?"] 06:18:33 -!- raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:24:52 zbigniew: better be careful; it knows about monica and fetishizes chandler 06:25:22 incubot: it's a moo point 06:25:24 you probably want to use byte vectors and define some floating-point operations on them through the FFI. 06:31:08 -!- ozy` [n=vt920@pool-71-184-104-97.prvdri.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["absquatulating"] 06:32:25 cads [n=max@c-71-56-62-166.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:36:06 incubot: whistles go whoo 06:36:08 whoo! 06:36:11 yeah! 06:46:54 who runs readscheme.org? 06:47:14 it looks like it's down 06:49:14 readscheme.org is run by one Jim Bender. 06:49:23 -!- Daemmeru` is now known as Daemmerung 06:50:59 Qv http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/41b4428d1a985b6d 06:52:37 thanks 06:55:13 Daemmerung: i love it when you use quo vide, dammit; like who has the audacity to quo vide in irc? 06:56:57 I just haven't found a /b/tard equivalent of Qv Opcit Cf etal, is all. Just you wait. 06:57:28 Romanus eunt domus! 06:57:30 Eventually an annoying meme will rise and flood all my pretensions. 06:57:45 DATIVE DAMMIT DATIVE 06:59:57 Riastradh: people called romanes, they go, the house? 07:00:12 (My wife just received Life O Brian via Netflix. W/her, that scene's going to be choice. She did not groove on the classics.) 07:00:45 Excuse me a moment: 07:00:49 const char * (* (**foo [(sizeof (int * [5]))]) (int *restrict [5])) (int, ...); 07:01:11 Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. What elicited that?? 07:01:20 Daemmerung: sounds like she knows enough to get the joke, though; which is more than you can say for 90% of 'Cans 07:01:25 Scheme, if you can believe that! 07:01:27 not so in the 1950s, though 07:01:34 *Daemmerung* disbelieves 07:01:43 *Daemmerung* fails his saving throw 07:02:07 ...oooh, a C declaration. I cast /Magic Missile/ at the declaration. 07:02:29 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 07:02:36 -!- nickgibbon [n=nickgibb@CPE-124-191-40-218.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 07:02:54 vixey [n=vicky@amcant.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 07:03:25 klutometis: she knows enough to reach for the ibuprofen bottle prophylactically. 07:03:52 incubot: The Today Sponge might be more appropriate 07:03:54 um, now try bar quux zot . Also, #emacs is a more appropriate place for elisp discussion than #scheme. 07:04:24 -!- kniu [n=kniu@pool-71-107-51-222.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:04:29 Riastradh pasted "what a bloody mess C types are (yes, I'm trying -- trying very hard -- to be glad that I'm not working with C++)" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/73166 07:05:32 On the upside, you can write it as an S-expr. 07:05:49 tihonov [n=kef@kefeer2.convex.ru] has joined #scheme 07:06:28 Yes, that was the goal of this evening: to write C types in a tree form, not in a brain-damaged split-personality specifier and declarator (and imperator and commandinator). 07:06:49 I would just use a void*. 07:07:22 Using void* there would change sizeof foo. 07:09:21 Riastradh: what's the point of that exercise, by the way? 07:09:50 or was it its own goal? 07:09:51 world C domination? 07:10:42 (1) To scratch an itch. (2) At least I can write C types now, even if I can't read them. (3) I've written at least two half-arsed C code generators in Scheme, and I want this to be the last one. 07:12:01 *zbigniew* is still trying to read it 07:12:09 Why?? 07:12:33 It's 1am; it seemed appropriate. Dream logic? 07:12:57 This is what you give to a *friend* to try to read, who doesn't have the S-expression source code. 07:13:38 All you'd be doing is matching up the S-expressions to the C gobbledegook; a friend, however, you'd torture for your own amusement. 07:14:38 *zbigniew* bookmarks the paste for future devilish endeavours 07:16:11 I omitted one important horrible syntactic construction: abstract, rather than direct, declarators of arrays of pointers to function types. 07:16:16 Because Googling for "c types" "bloody mess" results in 52 hits and I don't want to wade through those results in the future, some of which are disgusting 07:23:06 ejs [n=eugen@77-109-31-5.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 07:29:20 -!- amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:32:32 (...what did I say about `graph's and lisp'?) 07:35:02 IIRC it was something about The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young 07:35:22 incubot: shub 07:35:24 Well, a simple Blum Blum Shub implementation would very probably be enough. 07:36:05 Yikes! I know nothing about Shub-Niggurath! Nothing! 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(LOOP (- n 1)) ...) 08:39:34 nah, it's for demonstrative purposes and it's s'posed to work on vanilla scheme 08:39:50 is there named let in r5rs? 08:39:57 gnu guile barfed on it. is it obsolete? 08:40:13 mebbe guile is obsolete ;) 08:40:16 I would trust the R5RS spec before guile 08:40:17 named led is actually cool, i "backported" it to CL :) 08:40:29 I've done that too :p 08:40:57 and there's "backported" call/cc too :) 08:41:09 in CL? 08:41:18 -!- ricky [n=ricky@fedora/ricky] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:41:21 yes, using a code walker 08:43:09 I don't really get why named let is better than an explicit letrec 08:43:47 named let is a little different from letrec. 08:44:20 dzhus [n=sphinx@93-80-231-8.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 08:44:24 bpalmer, It's not 'better' but it's a good shorthand 08:45:23 bpalmer, less tokens 08:47:43 r2q2 [n=user@c-24-7-212-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 08:53:13 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:53:31 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 09:00:19 -!- r2q2 [n=user@c-24-7-212-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:00:39 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:02:45 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:03:04 -!- kenjin [n=kenjin@163.152.84.68] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:03:24 kenjin [n=kenjin@163.152.84.68] has joined #scheme 09:06:24 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 09:07:50 olgen [n=jacobm@2005ds3-by.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 09:08:59 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B053C9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:14:37 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 09:17:41 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:17:53 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 09:19:27 -!- tihonov [n=kef@kefeer2.convex.ru] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:21:41 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:22:52 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 09:38:16 elmex [n=elmex@e180068152.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 09:42:16 JKGpp [n=juergen@dslb-092-074-117-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 09:42:23 -!- kenjin [n=kenjin@163.152.84.68] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:42:49 kenjin [n=kenjin@163.152.84.68] has joined #scheme 09:49:32 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:49:47 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 10:11:32 -!- Axioplase [n=Pied@watchdog.msi.co.jp] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:13:55 -!- dnm [n=dnm@c-68-49-46-251.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:22:11 weirdo, lamed let is in guile named LET is not. 10:22:23 s/lamed/named/ 10:22:25 -!- ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@58.49.245.158] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:23:01 -!- oSand [n=heartles@118-93-79-4.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has left #scheme 10:23:47 -!- ejs [n=eugen@77-109-31-5.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:24:32 ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@221.234.215.33] has joined #scheme 10:25:50 -!- kenjin [n=kenjin@163.152.84.68] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:06:26 thank you 11:06:27 -!- weirdo [i=sthalik@c144-107.icpnet.pl] has left #scheme 11:13:45 a-s [n=user@85.9.55.98] has joined #scheme 11:16:21 incubot: if my dogs could talk; i wonder whither they could explain why dry dog food is delicious not in the kitchen, but in my office 11:16:23 ah, lovely. Yes, it is delicious. I've never seen it in USA though. 11:16:30 indeed 11:17:13 *klutometis* rofls, in spite of himself 11:17:48 klutometis: Try this: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101173106AAyYMoz 11:22:26 Mr-Cat: that was satisfyingly informative; thanks 11:37:36 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:46:18 -!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Want lisppaste in your channel? 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Unexpected convenience, huh 16:19:18 expecting printf? 16:22:37 -!- rtra_ is now known as rtra 16:23:17 cads: I was searching for a utility, that can format&undent scheme code... Didn't think, It would be standard function in most implementations 16:23:34 -!- pjb3 [n=pjb3@c-76-100-98-185.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [] 16:23:45 Is there a pdf version of err5rs proposal? 16:25:02 Er. Why would you want one? 16:25:23 (yes, I recognize that this is not an answer to your question) 16:26:33 gnomon: Just want an offline version 16:26:44 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 16:27:19 Mr-Cat, what's wrong with just saving the HTML version..? 16:27:51 Nothing is wrong, I'd just prefer pdf 16:29:40 Can your browser not print to PDF? 16:32:11 I mean 'real' pdf - with toc, index and so on. Unfortunately, the authors didn't bother with that. 16:32:12 -!- olgen [n=jacobm@0x535f66c5.bynxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:32:27 olgen [n=jacobm@0x535f66c5.bynxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #scheme 16:33:25 -!- dudrenov [n=user@c-69-181-124-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:33:35 dudrenov [n=user@c-69-181-124-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:34:04 Mr-Cat, but the HTML version has those facilities built into the document. 16:34:16 Mr-Cat, I'm missing something here. 16:34:28 -!- dsmith [i=xfso8vdw@cpe-71-74-230-225.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:34:57 Mr-Cat, you're not the only person to express a preference for PDF files when saved locally. Can you explain to me why that is? I'm not trying to challenge your request; I'm trying to understand the advantage that file format obviously offers, and that I'm not understanding. 16:37:41 -!- Student [n=Magical@5ac32715.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:42:58 Well, when I said 'pdf' I meant a book-like pdf - with full toc of the while document (there is no such fascility in wiki - afaik, at least in scheme punks wiki), without extra 'typography' (it matters if you decide to print a couple of pages) and in one file (afaik, only ie can make mht) 16:43:42 Also, s/while/whole 16:45:43 So, it's a matter of one's own preference 16:46:58 That's fair enough. 16:47:25 I assume that you've got several such files stashed away for reference purposes. Do you ever find the static nature of PDF to be limiting? 16:47:50 what's static about pdf? 16:48:03 lore17 [n=lore@c-98-232-225-102.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:48:05 I personally dislike PDF files because they move very poorly across the devices in my gadget array, and because the static format defies most attempts to programmatically massage the actual text in the document. 16:48:07 Yes, the same question 16:48:26 johnnowak, the layout, for one. 16:48:36 ah, fair enough 16:48:41 i only read on the desktop 16:49:11 Me too 16:49:24 i also prefer pdfs.. i'm not entirely sure why 16:49:27 You never read documents on a tablet, or a television, or a phone, or a modified Nintendo DS, or an old Palm Pilot..? 16:49:32 nope 16:49:34 Ah. Hm. 16:49:36 own none of those.. 16:49:44 Well, that may be the core of the problem right there, then. 16:49:44 well, a phone, but it barely shows the time 16:49:57 athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has joined #scheme 16:50:15 (...where "the problem" is "my misunderstanding of the use case of PDF document archives", that is) 16:50:24 you crazy kids and your pdf phones 16:50:59 Not at all. PDF doesn't display correctly on my phone... well, that's not true: it does, but it's painfully slow, and the reflow basically doesn't work at all. That's one of the reasons why I avoid PDF files. 16:51:22 I've got a whole set of tools worked up to rip the text out of PDF files and re-render them into some saner format, in fact. 16:52:01 i'm waiting for an epaper define with a better screen 16:52:04 *device 16:52:11 and, er, under $100 16:52:19 I'm not willing to wait ;) 16:52:30 Anyway, reading any text with figures (code, diagrams or whatever) is rather difficult 16:53:16 Code translates well; figures, not so much, but the only time I ever ran into that problem was with Cryptonomicon, and I just referred back to my hard copy in that case. 16:53:20 Still, that's a good point. 16:53:46 I mean on devices, smaller than a book 16:56:52 -!- jewel_ [n=jewel@dsl-242-132-215.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [No route to host] 16:58:53 -!- lore17 [n=lore@c-98-232-225-102.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left #scheme 16:59:28 gnomon: I started preferring PDF when I tried the okular viewer. I love being able to annotate the document. 16:59:58 its okular even better than a real book + pencil 17:01:07 rtra: kde4 oh, shi... 17:01:11 well, if I could use okular's annotations on a .chm would be better, yes 17:01:22 Never mind, though, I also use it 17:01:27 Mr-Cat: I don't use it. 17:03:25 rtra, I usually just annotate the document itself, or use a parallel document for the purpose. 17:05:15 gnomon: yes, I use emacs on another workspace for that, but as an eg. I can just press C-b to bookmark something instead of switching to emacs and type the page number. 17:05:18 -!- Khisanth [n=Khisanth@pool-141-157-238-161.ny325.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:06:14 You could just retain both formats so that you can read the PDF on a capable device, and resort to HTML or text in a less-capable environment. 17:06:20 Crazy, I know. 17:06:21 -!- mjonsson_ [n=mjonsson@66-234-42-92.nyc.cable.nyct.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:06:35 Khisanth [n=Khisanth@141.157.238.161] has joined #scheme 17:06:58 the highlighting annotations are really what makes a diff. I would copy/summarize the relevant passages on emacs, which was painful. 17:07:25 -!- Khisanth [n=Khisanth@141.157.238.161] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 17:07:41 I was waiting for a viewer with these features since a long, long time. 17:07:47 *for 17:08:08 zbigniew, well, sure, but I think we have a difference of perspective: I view the format as restrictive and therefore less capable, not the devices. 17:08:25 Anyhow, I'm getting far off topic. Sorry. 17:12:42 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:18:03 -!- benny [n=benny@i577A23DD.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:21:50 -!- Daemmerung [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has quit ["Smoove out."] 17:26:48 benny [n=benny@i577A23DD.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 17:29:57 gnomon: I convert all my pdfs to text so I can read them on emacs on both large and small devices 17:29:59 Student [n=Magical@5ac32715.bb.sky.com] has joined #scheme 17:33:22 pjb3 [n=pjb3@dsl093-119-089.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 17:35:46 Khisanth [n=Khisanth@pool-141-157-238-161.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 17:44:08 -!- JKGpp [n=juergen@dslb-092-074-117-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 17:44:52 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 17:49:27 kryptiskt [n=irc@ua-83-227-225-58.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 18:08:51 -!- glogic [n=rm@97.76.48.99] has quit [Remote closed the 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still i dont get how the meaning of quote changes depending on how foo is used 22:37:05 require-for-syntax is -1, require is 0, and require-for-template is 1, no? 22:37:42 might be 22:38:26 still, the quote is a reference to phase 0 in test1 ... so why does the require-for-template have any effect? 22:40:12 why cant I even run this example, mzscheme is complaining that it cant find 'test1 22:40:43 thats one of the reasons I'm still on 372 ... 22:41:02 you have to create a seperate file for each module 22:41:42 Riastradh: #lang is just a shortcut for module in 4.0 22:41:53 I'm only guessing at what REQUIRE-FOR-TEMPLATE does, but it could be that when you invoke FOO, the reference to QUOTE is interpreted in the -1 phase whereas in invocation of BAR it is in the 0 phase. Unless you require MZSCHEME in the -1 phase, the two bindings will be different. 22:42:28 'i was pretty sure there was a way to require modules created in the same file 22:43:10 I need a muffin. 22:43:11 *Riastradh* vanishes. 22:43:11 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 22:43:45 -!- incubot [n=incubot@24-205-65-135.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:44:41 (require 'test) is supposed to work 22:45:40 it worked in 4.1.3.6, but not in 4.1.3.9 22:46:04 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFF4B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Gone."] 22:47:04 ohh it does work, there was an extra (require-for-syntax ...) 22:48:42 incubot [n=incubot@24-205-65-135.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined #scheme 22:50:03 -!- benny [n=benny@i577A23DD.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:50:21 jonrafkind: and do you also get the same results? 22:50:26 yea 22:50:31 underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 22:50:47 checking why 22:51:13 so with template I get (1 1) 22:53:36 and without? 22:54:56 without is (1 2) 22:55:58 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:56:06 error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 22:56:57 but why? 22:57:39 If at all, I would have expected it the other way 22:57:45 ie. (2 1) 22:58:32 -!- Student [n=Magical@5ac32715.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:59:14 dont you want (syntax-case #'x (quote) ...) ? 22:59:38 no, its syntax-rules in the first module 22:59:57 oh ha yea 23:04:13 peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 23:04:37 -!- peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:04:57 peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 23:07:03 -!- bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:07:24 hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-251-157-51.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 23:17:35 -!- amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["time for shreddies"] 23:18:34 lisppaste: url 23:18:34 To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/scheme and enter your paste. 23:21:10 raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has joined #scheme 23:26:43 annodomini [n=lambda@64.30.3.122] has joined #scheme 23:35:50 -!- Slom [n=a@pD9EB52DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:40:39 incubot: url 23:41:03 incubot: urls 23:41:05 I'm not a fan of URLs for this purpose. URLs are great for transmitting information through network protocols as strings, but they're not nearly as good a representation for general pathname manipulation. 23:42:54 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B057108.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:46:37 -!- AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable230.56-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["rmrf"] 23:49:05 Student [n=Magical@5ac32715.bb.sky.com] has joined #scheme 23:52:13 gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has joined #scheme 23:52:47 lelf [n=lelf@217.118.90.234] has joined #scheme 23:58:57 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has quit ["leaving"]