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What do you think about the usefulness of that? On a scale of 1 to 10 - where 1 is "useless" and 10 is "so useful that you have incorporated it into sbcl" :-)? 2018-07-01T21:42:36Z stassats: 5 "warrants an investigation on how well it actually works" 2018-07-01T21:43:01Z stassats: but i don't have any minions to delegate that so 1 "i won't do anything" 2018-07-01T21:46:35Z eschatologist quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-01T21:47:10Z drmeister: Thanks 2018-07-01T21:47:38Z drmeister: I got rdtsc to work from C++ - I'll incorporate that into clasp's TIME. 2018-07-01T21:48:13Z drmeister: Here's an example of what I got from the PCM library... 2018-07-01T21:48:55Z drmeister: Here is the test code (C++) 2018-07-01T21:48:56Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VtX3D6vl/ 2018-07-01T21:49:35Z drmeister: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AfXpT6Yp/ 2018-07-01T21:50:43Z drmeister: 10000000 float vector dotproduct with vector: 0.34 sec 0.68/0.8 L2/L3 cache hit ratio 2018-07-01T21:51:18Z drmeister: Same with random order access in 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are no non-error jumps between it and MOVE-TO-WORD/FIXNUM, and none of the registers involved are used 2018-07-02T14:41:09Z stassats: i guess it could be more robust than that with def-use chains and whatnot, but i don't really comprehend them 2018-07-02T14:43:03Z stassats: that is if move-to-word/fixnum to be moved up to fixnump, a better plan would be to move fixnump towards move-to-word/fixnum, which would be semantically sound in the XEP, since i don't think we specify the order of typechecks 2018-07-02T14:45:08Z stassats: but i need a PoC of at least some strategy 2018-07-02T14:48:11Z stassats: (lambda (x) (declare (fixnum x)) (values (1- x) (print x))) cannot be merged 2018-07-02T14:48:25Z stassats: but i think there's a lot of cases where it can be, so it's worth investigating 2018-07-02T14:52:03Z flip214: did anyone see "cross-compiler type ambiguity in (SB!KERNEL:CTYPEP NIL SB!IMPL::STRING-OUTPUT-STREAM) .... giving up conservatively" when building 1.4.9 with 1.4.9.debian? 2018-07-02T14:53:01Z stassats: no 2018-07-02T14:54:30Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-02T15:06:38Z eschatologist quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-02T15:10:08Z stassats: fixnump+move-to-word/fixnum sometimes needs to use one more register, saving the original value for error reporting 2018-07-02T15:10:49Z stassats: but regalloc does a poor job and move-to-word/fixnum often actually does move between registers, but that needs to be fixed 2018-07-02T15:11:17Z stassats: so, fixnump+move-to-word/fixnum is not always an unequivocal win 2018-07-02T15:13:07Z dougk__: stassats: we'e going to need 3 bit fixnum tags for the ppc64 port 2018-07-02T15:14:07Z dougk__: the tag space has to be arranged so that half of the pointer lowtags have 2 bits of alignment. So they're #b0100 #b1100 #b0110 #b1110 instead of what they are now. 2018-07-02T15:14:08Z stassats: dougk__: well, it's done from scratch, so no VOPs had the chance to get complacent 2018-07-02T15:14:20Z dougk__: right. 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While linking it hit 23gb and locked up. Progress? 2018-07-02T17:34:15Z drmeister: I’m talking with the raven brook folks about writing memory to files. They have some interesting ideas 2018-07-02T17:34:54Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-07-02T17:36:11Z drmeister: And I’m dealing with a freaking rat that I’m considering hiring to do compiler development. 2018-07-02T17:38:24Z flip214: dougk__: ah right, thanks a lot! seems that got broken in the last weeks... 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2018-07-04T17:37:06Z dougk_: and/or feel free to revert the change. I have to go buy some stuff. (july 4th holiday and all that) 2018-07-04T17:37:12Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T17:42:47Z scymtym: dougk_: https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/sbcl-master-ci-build-generator-experiments.zip has the workspace. a downstream job executes the SBCL "installed" in the install sub-directory. the above error happens when said downstream job tries to save an image 2018-07-04T17:43:25Z scymtym: i couldn't reproduce the problem in a different environment so far 2018-07-04T17:44:25Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T17:50:41Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-04T18:01:03Z logand`: stassats: thanks for your answer, that frlock aarm64-linux failure, what exactly is expected? that the sb-concurrency contrib tests fail? if that's the case, should not be the expected failure be somehow marked in order to not "break the build"? 2018-07-04T18:02:40Z flip214: didi: SBCL has 6 generations defined. 2018-07-04T18:07:13Z sjl quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.2-dev) 2018-07-04T18:12:01Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T18:15:25Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T18:15:34Z stassats: logand`: it doesn't break the build 2018-07-04T18:15:48Z stassats: and if it's marked as an expected failure than it will never get fixed 2018-07-04T18:17:44Z sjl quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.2-dev) 2018-07-04T18:24:19Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T18:28:42Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-07-04T18:56:14Z logand`: stassats: it is not marked as expected failure and because FRLOCK.1 test fails the sb-concurrency is labeled as failed and probably the exit code is non-zero and that means that the build infrastructure treats it as failed. in which sense it "doesn't break the build"? if the tests are part of build and fail, then it breaks the build, no? 2018-07-04T19:22:29Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T19:51:32Z logand` quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-04T19:52:13Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-07-04T19:53:59Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-07-04T19:56:54Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T19:57:14Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T20:21:47Z dougk_: scymtym: fairly easily fixed, will add a test case for it. 2018-07-04T20:22:17Z stassats: dougk_: is relocate_heap supposed to work on cheneygc? 2018-07-04T20:22:51Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T20:22:57Z didi: flip214: Thank you. 2018-07-04T20:23:18Z didi: I'll increase the counter to 6 then. 2018-07-04T20:23:27Z dougk_: stassats: yes, i had it working at some point 2018-07-04T20:23:47Z stassats: dougk_: a saved core on ppc+cheneygc doesn't come back up 2018-07-04T20:23:54Z pierpa joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T20:24:33Z stassats: relocate_space (start=, end=0xc7800000, adj=adj@entry=0xffdc84e0) at coreparse.c:460 2018-07-04T20:25:24Z dougk_: a commit on Feb 1 says "support relocatable heap for cheneygc". I'll bisect 2018-07-04T20:26:34Z stassats: saving cores works on mips, but it's probably not relocating 2018-07-04T20:27:43Z dougk_: i had tested with LD_PRELOAD and my 'preload.so' thing to force mmap to return something different. that never got formalized into a test due to the fussiness of it 2018-07-04T20:28:35Z stassats: what setting the default location to something not sensible? 2018-07-04T20:28:36Z dougk_: i have a better way to exercise it now that os_validate has been put in a different file. we can link with the mock os_validate, forcibly relocate without relying on the preload trick or guessing whether the particular call to mmap was one that was relocatable 2018-07-04T20:28:54Z stassats: what about, that is 2018-07-04T20:29:23Z dougk_: yes, that's the purpose of the interceptor. I can prevent this from regressing now. 2018-07-04T20:29:59Z dougk_: the problem was the because I was intercepting mmap() and not os_validate(), I couldn't be certain that I was forcibly relocating the space that was _supposed_ to be relocatable. 2018-07-04T20:30:03Z stassats: running with --dynamic-space-size 600 on mips does "mmap: Cannot allocate memory Segmentation fault" 2018-07-04T20:32:12Z angavrilov quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-04T20:33:17Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T20:34:23Z stassats: https://gist.github.com/stassats/604f5f35a91189b18e6ab3e3111749ff 2018-07-04T20:59:24Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-07-04T21:07:20Z attila_lendvai quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2018-07-04T21:16:51Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T21:20:57Z thodg joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T21:49:06Z scymtym: dougk_: thank you 2018-07-04T21:54:32Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T21:59:59Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T22:07:26Z stassats: cheneygc ppc also segfaults with largish dynamic-space-size 2018-07-04T22:07:34Z stassats: but it doesn't spin endlessly 2018-07-04T22:07:57Z stassats: mmap: Cannot allocate memory, yet it proceeds to start up 2018-07-04T22:10:16Z stassats: x86-64 too ignores one mmap failures before succumbing 2018-07-04T22:36:13Z Jesin quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-07-04T22:36:54Z didi` joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T22:37:53Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-07-04T22:40:39Z didi quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-07-04T22:40:40Z didi` is now known as didi 2018-07-04T23:12:57Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T23:13:44Z stassats quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-07-04T23:14:01Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-04T23:24:27Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-07-04T23:30:13Z rpg quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Could someone explain the difference between sb-walker::env-lexical-variables and sb-c::lexenv-vars ? The latter seems to be stored in the :vars slot of SBCL's environment structure... The former seems to be available only as a predicate sb-walker::var-lexical-p... 2018-07-07T23:18:57Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-07T23:23:13Z DGASAU quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-07-07T23:32:09Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-07T23:58:22Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-07-08T00:05:05Z trittweiler quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-08T00:05:31Z trittweiler joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T00:26:57Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T00:48:56Z klltkr joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T00:50:34Z epony quit (Quit: QUIT) 2018-07-08T00:58:34Z aeth quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-08T01:00:19Z aeth joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T01:16:56Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T01:30:42Z epony joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T02:16:22Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-07-08T02:42:05Z patlv quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-08T02:42:31Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T03:11:30Z edgar-rft joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T03:27:08Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-08T04:03:43Z aeth: So I use structs to hold arrays of a known, fixed length in typed slots so I can get around most bounds checking, but every now and then bounds checking does seem to show up in areas where literally everything is known. 2018-07-08T04:04:23Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T04:04:38Z aeth: In the most recent case of this, as soon as I added call to a FORMAT with one of the values the 8 bounds checks went away, which is odd. 2018-07-08T04:06:13Z aeth: I can link to that function but it's basically unreadable because I use a macro to create with-accessors-style symbol-macrolet bindings of multiple-value accessors because it composes very well. 2018-07-08T04:06:17Z aeth: https://gitlab.com/zombie-raptor/zombie-raptor/blob/84cd311f3158e576429e6c904eb4d1e7ed87098e/physics/physics.lisp#L110-125 2018-07-08T04:08:13Z aeth: Essentially, the issue is with rotation. It doesn't trust its completely known dimensions. The symbol rotation there is probably expanding to (values (aref (rotation-rotation rotation) id 0) ... (aref (rotation-rotation rotation) id 3)) 2018-07-08T04:08:49Z aeth: (I say probably because there might be a local gensym binding to the rotation array rather than accessing the struct 4 times) 2018-07-08T04:09:21Z aeth: This is, to the best of my knowledge, the only place where the compiler fails to remove bounds checks on this sort of data structure. 2018-07-08T04:10:35Z aeth: I thought that it might be due to the large composition of multiple-value-calls, but then I added a (format t "~S~%" rotation) (which, of course, will only print the first value) and all of the bounds checks went away and now I'm confused. 2018-07-08T04:12:43Z aeth: The bounds checking also goes away if I (multiple-value-call #'format t "~S ~S ~S ~S~%" rotation) 2018-07-08T04:13:55Z aeth: The bounds checking also goes away if I just put rotation (which presumably does nothing and is probably optimized away) above the unless. 2018-07-08T04:25:01Z aeth: I'll try to see if I can find a simple test case because this is really weird. So far I can't make a simpler test case where I can insert unnecessary bounds checking. 2018-07-08T04:26:46Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-08T04:35:15Z aeth: Okay, this is what's going on: (defun foo (v w) (declare ((simple-array single-float (42 3)) v) ((simple-array single-float (42 3)) w)) (setf (array-row-of-3 v 7) (array-row-of-3 w 7)) v) 2018-07-08T04:36:42Z aeth: SBCL for some reason is okay with me setting an array row from multiple values or retrieving the elements of an array row into multiple values, but does not like the combination of the two. (well, the bounds check removal, at least) 2018-07-08T04:39:14Z aeth: The version with 1D arrays is 47 bytes vs the 266 bytes of the array version. 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I'm trying trouble using sb-sprof on a CommonQt application. 2018-07-08T10:36:16Z phoe: https://pastebin.com/tBkAUsyC 2018-07-08T10:37:48Z phoe: I try to call the profiler the way described in 15.2.1 of http://www.sbcl.org/manual/ - without allocation. 2018-07-08T10:44:23Z andrei-n_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-07-08T10:46:03Z andrei-n_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T10:50:55Z scymtym: phoe: which sbcl version is this? 2018-07-08T10:53:06Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T10:53:26Z stassats: aeth: you need to provide a proper test case, as i'm not going to deal with whatever define-function is 2018-07-08T10:58:49Z phoe: scymtym: one moment... 2018-07-08T10:58:52Z phoe: 1.4.6 so not the newest. 2018-07-08T10:58:54Z phoe: Let me upgrade. 2018-07-08T10:59:52Z phoe: Upgraded, let me recompile things. This will take a while. 2018-07-08T11:01:12Z scymtym: phoe: sounds like a problem that was fixed in 1.4.7 2018-07-08T11:02:36Z phoe: scymtym: does not seem to occur in 1.4.9. Thanks. 2018-07-08T11:03:01Z scymtym: phoe: sure 2018-07-08T11:05:03Z andrei-n_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-08T11:18:49Z aeth: stassats: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1731243 2018-07-08T11:19:34Z stassats: i've already reduced it 2018-07-08T11:20:47Z zooey quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-08T11:21:05Z zooey joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T11:38:27Z Inline quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-07-08T11:44:01Z Inline joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T11:52:39Z stassats: have a tentative fix 2018-07-08T11:55:45Z andrei-n_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T12:06:35Z stassats: aeth: try now 2018-07-08T12:24:32Z surya quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-07-08T12:33:12Z surya joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T12:33:41Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T12:36:39Z surya_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T12:38:09Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-08T12:38:34Z surya quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-08T12:48:50Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T12:53:09Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-08T13:01:22Z surya_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-08T13:03:55Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-07-08T13:05:52Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T13:42:44Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T14:04:09Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T14:24:21Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T14:31:55Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-07-08T14:37:29Z patlv quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-08T14:37:51Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T14:46:27Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-07-08T15:14:22Z andrei-n_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-07-08T15:15:45Z andrei-n_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T15:23:00Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T15:35:44Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T15:38:22Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-08T15:40:08Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T16:06:59Z leah2 quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-08T16:17:43Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T16:25:13Z leah2 joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T16:57:31Z slyrus1 quit (Quit: slyrus1) 2018-07-08T17:29:05Z angavrilov is now known as angavrilov_ 2018-07-08T17:29:05Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-07-08T17:52:39Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T18:18:58Z aeth: Compiling. 2018-07-08T18:36:22Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-08T18:51:25Z aeth: ARRAY-ROW-OF-2-ROW-2-COPY is now 99 bytes with two bounds checks. It was 157 with 4 in 1.4.9. ZOMBIE-RAPTOR:UPDATE-INPUT-MOVEMENT! now has four bounds checks instead of 8. 2018-07-08T18:51:43Z aeth: So it looks like half of the bounds checks that could have been removed that weren't are now removed. 2018-07-08T19:06:54Z flip214: aeth: do you have some benchmark results? 2018-07-08T19:07:11Z aeth: flip214: I don't think a benchmark for https://gitlab.com/snippets/1731243 2018-07-08T19:07:15Z aeth: would be helpful 2018-07-08T19:08:05Z flip214: aeth: right, not for that snippet. 2018-07-08T19:08:38Z flip214: but of something else that might have done too many bounds checks too?! 2018-07-08T19:10:44Z aeth: What's expected is just 4 more asm instructions in array-row-of-2-row-2-copy than in array-of-2-copy (turning the 2D index into a 1D index?) and I think that's the most useful test. 2018-07-08T19:11:51Z edgar-rft quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-08T19:14:49Z aeth: Actually, I wonder if those instructions could be removed when the aref is constant on a known-size array. I suspect that they were the main factor in a 4x4 matrix as an array of (16) beating a 4x4 matrix as an array of (4 4) in a matrix* benchmark I wrote a while back. 2018-07-08T19:51:14Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-08T20:15:03Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-07-08T20:20:47Z angavrilov_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-08T20:24:36Z andrei-n_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-08T20:28:03Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T20:28:29Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T20:34:56Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-08T20:36:53Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T20:44:45Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-08T21:15:00Z josemanuel quit (Quit: leaving) 2018-07-08T21:34:08Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-07-08T21:39:55Z patlv joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T21:51:39Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T21:55:24Z stassats: aeth: more improvements incoming 2018-07-08T21:55:50Z stacksmith quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-07-08T22:01:48Z edgar-rft joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T22:04:49Z stassats: aeth: try again 2018-07-08T22:06:37Z stacksmith joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T22:55:41Z jack_rabbit joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T23:15:58Z pierpa joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T23:24:17Z aeth: stassats: amazing! 2018-07-08T23:25:52Z aeth: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1731243#note_86735899 2018-07-08T23:26:14Z aeth: probably could have did a (setf *print-case* :downcase) first to lower case the asm 2018-07-08T23:26:33Z stassats: no, don't do that 2018-07-08T23:29:16Z aeth: The bounds checks are also gone in update-input-movement! which is no surprise because my test case was just a simplification of what's going on there. 2018-07-08T23:30:32Z aeth: There's one more weird type check that is going on in that function. Inline functions now keep their declarations, which is awesome (especially when (speed 3) affects what's going on significantly, like with trig). Probably for a year or two at this point. 2018-07-08T23:31:32Z stassats: i would say it's always been the case 2018-07-08T23:31:56Z aeth: Well, perhaps there was a temporary regression in a version I used for a long time, then. 2018-07-08T23:34:00Z stassats: aeth: if you want to improve things further, don't use multi-dimensional arrays 2018-07-08T23:34:54Z aeth: I do know at one point the types weren't checked in inline functions with type declarations and now they are. I also think that the (declare (optimize (speed 3))) version of trig functions (staying as single float) didn't stick when using an inline function at one point because I made a note in source that's no longer accurate. 2018-07-08T23:35:08Z aeth: s/when using an inline function/when being used as an inline function/ 2018-07-08T23:35:42Z aeth: It's better this way with one exception. 2018-07-08T23:35:49Z stassats: well, it's actually harder to get rid of inlined declarations than to preserve them 2018-07-08T23:36:02Z stassats: so, i'm not sure what you were observing 2018-07-08T23:36:30Z aeth: Maybe it was a weird bug at one point. 2018-07-08T23:37:21Z aeth: I would have to find a really old version of SBCL to try to reproduce it (probably 1.2.6 or so) and it wouldn't be worth it since I don't see it anymore. 2018-07-08T23:37:55Z makomo quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-07-08T23:38:51Z aeth: Anyway, I use these really simple inline functions to turn a fixnum into a set of 1/0 values using bit logic operations. https://gitlab.com/zombie-raptor/zombie-raptor/blob/8b7ee7a971ceb524138853a64630779cc41289bf/math/boolean-set.lisp 2018-07-08T23:39:09Z aeth: For some reason, every time I use it, it checks for '(unsigned-byte 60) 2018-07-08T23:39:22Z patlv quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-07-08T23:39:56Z stassats: use what? 2018-07-08T23:39:58Z stassats: and how 2018-07-08T23:40:51Z aeth: Well, this test case does *NOT* confirm it. It does manage to remove the type check here. (defun foo (x) (declare ((mod 1234) x)) (boolean-set-union 0 x)) 2018-07-08T23:41:09Z aeth: But I basically have a number that's declared or known to be a subset of (unsigned-byte 60) and it still checks for it 2018-07-08T23:41:44Z aeth: It's possible that it's because I define the type like this: (deftype entity-id () `(mod ,+max-entities+)) 2018-07-08T23:42:05Z aeth: hmm, so this still removes the check. (defun foo (x) (declare (entity-id x)) (boolean-set-union 0 x)) 2018-07-08T23:42:06Z stassats: would be no difference with that 2018-07-08T23:42:41Z aeth: yeah, I have no idea why the check is showing up. 2018-07-08T23:43:06Z stassats: well, i have no code — no idea 2018-07-08T23:48:20Z aeth: I did exactly what I did with the bounds checking issue and took the function, removed everything irrelevant, expanded all of the macros, etc., and I get (defun foo (entity-id) (declare (entity-id entity-id)) (let ((id entity-id)) (boolean-set-subset-p 36 id))) 2018-07-08T23:48:25Z aeth: and the type checking is gone, as expected 2018-07-08T23:48:50Z aeth: oh wait, it's aref array id 2018-07-08T23:49:49Z aeth: I see what's going on now. 2018-07-08T23:49:58Z stassats: good 2018-07-08T23:50:15Z aeth: There is no array for (unsigned-byte 60) so it rounds, probably to 62 2018-07-08T23:50:41Z stassats: clhs u-a-e-t 2018-07-08T23:50:41Z specbot: upgraded-array-element-type: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_upgr_1.htm 2018-07-08T23:51:12Z aeth: yes, it's 62, the positive side of a fixnum 2018-07-08T23:52:13Z stassats: how is the array declared? 2018-07-08T23:52:15Z aeth: I guess I should just use (unsigned-byte 64)s because 64-bit implementations will generally have them. 2018-07-08T23:52:34Z jack_rabbit quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-08T23:53:07Z aeth: It's declared as an (unsigned-byte 60) array, but that rounds to 62, and so the compiler is actually better now than when I wrote it, because I don't recall it checking when I wrote it years ago. 2018-07-08T23:53:39Z aeth: So here the compiler is right, as it usually is. 2018-07-08T23:53:57Z stassats: well, depending on how it's declared it might actually use (unsigned-byte 60) 2018-07-08T23:54:05Z jibanes quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-07-08T23:55:17Z aeth: I create it through a macro that also creates a constructor so I can just do a type-of. (type-of (make-entity-set-array)) => (simple-array (unsigned-byte 62) (2500)) 2018-07-08T23:55:47Z aeth: I think the best solution is to switch it to ub 64 and it'd probably even be faster. 2018-07-08T23:55:53Z stassats: (unsigned-byte 64) might produce a lot of garbage if you're not careful 2018-07-08T23:56:09Z stassats: you could just use FIXNUM 2018-07-08T23:56:23Z jibanes joined #sbcl 2018-07-08T23:56:34Z stassats: it may be faster if it never leaves the array 2018-07-08T23:57:47Z aeth: stassats: It's only ever accessed indirectly, through a macro. It's basically just a bunch of bits that makes sure that the query about the entity is valid before completing the symbol-macrolet bindings. So the type of the array should always be known when it's being accessed. 2018-07-08T23:58:50Z aeth: Using (unsigned-byte 64) might destroy performance on other implementations, though. It's called a lot. 2018-07-09T00:00:08Z stassats: who cares about other implementations 2018-07-09T00:00:21Z aeth: The way the bits work is if you request velocity, it will either iterate over every entity that has a velocity OR it will (if you requested a specific ID) execute iff the requested entity ID implements velocity. 2018-07-09T00:00:32Z stassats: well, you can't really target multiple implementations when optimizing 2018-07-09T00:00:58Z aeth: There really aren't other implementations where I can know as much about what's going on as with SBCL. 2018-07-09T00:01:10Z aeth: I generally optimize for SBCL and then make sure it runs on CCL 2018-07-09T00:01:30Z aeth: CCL does have an (unsigned-byte 64) array. 2018-07-09T00:03:04Z stassats: if 62 bits is enough, you can just use (unsigned-byte 62) 2018-07-09T00:03:21Z stassats: that way it'll stay fixnum 2018-07-09T00:07:10Z aeth: I should probably do that just to be safe even though I don't think it leaves a function anywhere 2018-07-09T00:09:47Z slyrus1 joined #sbcl 2018-07-09T00:10:44Z aeth: It probably doesn't need to be more than 62. If it did, it would probably need to be significantly more than 62, and I could just combine 2 to 4 of them together. Each bit represents one thing so I don't think that approach would have issues. 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Wait, are they talking about some specific sbcl build from some specific Rpi3 distro? Or is there some hardware limitation in the Rpi3 that I don't know about? 2018-07-11T21:08:03Z Shinmera: Pi distributions still run ARM32, and SBCL doesn't have threads on that. 2018-07-11T21:18:02Z pierpa joined #sbcl 2018-07-11T21:20:24Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-07-11T21:32:14Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-07-11T21:35:03Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2018-07-11T21:36:34Z sebboh-: ah, got it. So, sbcl does have threads on aarch64, eh? 2018-07-11T21:38:10Z karlosz quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-11T21:38:31Z Shinmera: If I remember correctly, yes. So if you get a 64 distribution running you should be good. 2018-07-11T21:38:44Z Shinmera: I think OpenSuse and Arch have some support. 2018-07-11T21:39:30Z sebboh-: cool. Seems to be no prob. People who know how to cross compile a kernel tried it, succeeded, and blogged about it. According to my two minutes' research on the topic. :) Thanks Shinmera! 2018-07-11T21:40:13Z Shinmera: OpenSuse even has pre-built images, last time I checked (but never tried) 2018-07-11T21:42:50Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-11T21:48:19Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(LISTP (list 1 2 . 3)) doesn't give NIL but an error "The value 3 is not of type LIST" 2018-07-16T06:29:01Z flip214: although CLHS even states " If object is a cons, listp does not check whether object is a proper list; it returns true for any kind of list. 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2018-07-17T13:11:56Z stassats: what? 2018-07-17T13:12:47Z Posterdati: I mean 2018-07-17T13:13:39Z Posterdati: only 1.2.7 on amd64 2018-07-17T13:14:50Z Posterdati: I was able to compile the latest git version on OpenBSD 6.3 (except documentation) 2018-07-17T13:15:48Z Shinmera: Just because there's no release for it to download doesn't mean it isn't ported. 2018-07-17T13:15:53Z Shinmera: Just means there's no release to download. 2018-07-17T13:15:59Z Posterdati: ah ok 2018-07-17T13:16:22Z Posterdati: I'm looking at the Download page table 2018-07-17T13:16:36Z Posterdati: http://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html 2018-07-17T13:19:00Z Posterdati: does anyone try to compile latest git on OpenBSD 6.3 for amd64? 2018-07-17T13:20:55Z stassats: no 2018-07-17T13:21:33Z Posterdati: where may I paste the problem to you? 2018-07-17T13:22:01Z stassats: what problem? 2018-07-17T13:22:58Z Posterdati: error during documentation compilation 2018-07-17T13:23:33Z stassats: paste wherever 2018-07-17T13:24:21Z Posterdati: https://pastebin.com/JN3ZSmmM 2018-07-17T13:24:44Z Posterdati: maybe it is not sbcl related on this platform 2018-07-17T13:25:22Z stassats: 'Segmentation fault' in gmake, well, can't do anything based on that 2018-07-17T13:25:37Z Posterdati: # makeinfo --html --no-split --css-include=style-common.css --css-include=style-single.css asdf.texinfo 2018-07-17T13:25:37Z Posterdati: Segmentation fault (core dumped) 2018-07-17T13:25:55Z Posterdati: problem is makeinfo 2018-07-17T13:26:09Z stassats: well, i'm not really going to look into it 2018-07-17T13:26:24Z stassats: as i don't really bother with documentation 2018-07-17T13:29:51Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-07-17T13:54:26Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T14:08:04Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T14:15:06Z slyrus1 quit (Quit: slyrus1) 2018-07-17T14:18:54Z Posterdati: stassats: I'm compiling 1.4.5 on OpenBSD 6.3 amd64 2018-07-17T14:40:18Z slyrus1 joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T14:46:05Z mgsk joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T14:47:36Z Inline joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T14:57:49Z mgsk: Hi, all. Trying to understand the disassembly produced by SBCL. I've noticed that if I increase a constant by 1 then the assembly shows a change of x2 to what it was before. Is the low bit being used for something? Demonstrated in https://gist.github.com/notmgsk/a354e38e6dcf5e7e6169273e36839e3c 2018-07-17T14:57:57Z saki quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-07-17T14:59:23Z Shinmera: The low bit is the tag that distinguishes integers from other kinds of objects. 2018-07-17T14:59:45Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-17T15:04:40Z surya joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T15:09:18Z mgsk: Shinmera: i see. ty 2018-07-17T15:13:28Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T15:43:22Z shka1 joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T15:55:28Z surya quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-17T15:56:33Z saki joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T16:05:53Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-07-17T16:20:35Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T16:24:37Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-07-17T16:26:29Z shka1 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-17T16:26:55Z shka1 joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T16:49:06Z Shinmera: It seems in recent SBCLs trying to call sb-di:debug-source-form results in an error about SB-C::DEBUG-SOURCE-FORM being undefined. Did the interface for debug-source-forms change or something? When I look at the def!struct the field is still there so I'm confused about why the reader would be undefined. 2018-07-17T16:49:38Z stassats: it has changed, and the field is not there 2018-07-17T16:49:53Z Shinmera: Oh, then I must have old sources lying around somehow-- sorry. 2018-07-17T16:50:09Z Shinmera: Still should remove that export from sb-di, though. 2018-07-17T16:51:20Z stassats: true 2018-07-17T17:03:19Z Shinmera: stassats: Would it make sense to export the core-debug-source related symbols from sb-di? 2018-07-17T17:03:47Z stassats: not really 2018-07-17T17:03:53Z stassats: well, it's internal either way 2018-07-17T17:04:07Z stassats: and not going to work on, say, 1.4.9 anyway 2018-07-17T17:04:49Z Shinmera: So it's not yet being used, or? 2018-07-17T17:05:07Z stassats: it's used inside sb-di 2018-07-17T17:21:38Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T17:45:48Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-07-17T17:59:40Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T18:11:04Z pfdietz2 joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T18:41:31Z zooey quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2018-07-17T18:46:52Z zooey joined #sbcl 2018-07-17T19:51:02Z rpg quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Can the latest SBCL be used on a Mac? 2018-07-17T22:55:56Z stassats: of course 2018-07-17T23:00:46Z stassats: is M-. broken on the latest Emacs? hell, this new Emacs release feels like the worst about backwards compatibility 2018-07-17T23:12:05Z rpg quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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2018-07-18T10:30:43Z scymtym: Xof: do you want the process to run continuously or just until it's done? 2018-07-18T10:30:52Z Xof: it's a server programme 2018-07-18T10:31:47Z scymtym: i use [Unit] Description=… [Service] ExecStart=/absolute-path-to-dumped-image args 2018-07-18T10:31:57Z Xof: I do that too 2018-07-18T10:32:10Z Xof: do you have a custom toplevel that sleeps or something? 2018-07-18T10:32:20Z Xof: I was using the standard toplevel with the repl 2018-07-18T10:32:44Z Shinmera: Xof: I just have a (loop (sleep 1)) 2018-07-18T10:32:56Z scymtym: yeah, /absolute-path-to-dumped-image args waits until signaled and does not read from standard input 2018-07-18T10:33:01Z scymtym: (in my case) 2018-07-18T10:33:24Z Shinmera: scymtym: It does quit for me. 2018-07-18T10:33:44Z Shinmera: Or do you mean you have a custom dump that sleeps? 2018-07-18T10:33:50Z scymtym: the latter 2018-07-18T10:34:06Z Xof: (loop (sleep 1)) it is 2018-07-18T10:34:08Z Xof: thanks 2018-07-18T10:34:31Z scymtym: i can imagine that the default toplevel dies when it tries to read from standard input 2018-07-18T10:35:07Z Shinmera: Xof: You might also want something like Restart=on-abort if you want it to restart on a crash. 2018-07-18T10:36:11Z Shinmera: And setting User to not have it run as root, WorkingDirectory, etc. Systemd is a beast, for better or worse. 2018-07-18T10:37:22Z Xof: Yes. I have those bits. (I'm using systemctl --user so it's picking up the right user account, with loginctl enable-linger ) 2018-07-18T10:37:47Z Shinmera: Ah, fair. 2018-07-18T10:42:06Z milanj__ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-07-18T10:46:51Z Xof: anyway, thank you! 2018-07-18T10:46:54Z Xof: onwards 2018-07-18T10:47:30Z cpape` joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T10:49:17Z cpape quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-07-18T10:56:32Z cpape` quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-18T10:57:45Z cpape joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T11:03:25Z makomo joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T11:08:44Z makomo_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T11:11:45Z makomo quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-18T11:23:24Z milanj__ joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T12:00:39Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T12:05:34Z rpg quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-07-18T12:38:30Z chiyosaki joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T12:40:58Z saki quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-07-18T12:45:19Z saki joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T12:45:35Z chiyosaki quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-18T12:49:25Z saki quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-07-18T12:51:27Z saki joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T12:58:34Z chiyosaki joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T12:59:25Z saki quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-07-18T13:03:35Z chiyosaki quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-07-18T13:04:26Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T13:16:19Z ikki joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T13:27:14Z milanj__ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-07-18T13:33:29Z Inline joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T13:38:03Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T13:50:06Z stassats: Xach: it has no declaration at all, i guess adding one would help 2018-07-18T13:54:15Z stassats: adding a declaration makes (sb-ext:string-to-octets 10) warn, but constraint propagated types are not conflicting 2018-07-18T14:03:11Z milanj__ joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T14:11:34Z sjl_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T14:18:07Z stassats: constraint propagation to the alternative branch appears to be doing approximately nothing 2018-07-18T14:22:25Z stassats: lp 309124 2018-07-18T14:22:26Z specbot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/309124 2018-07-18T14:53:38Z stassats: got (defun foo (x) (if (typep x 'number) 10 (1+ x))) to warn, wonder what will that break 2018-07-18T14:53:59Z stassats: at least it builds (after a little bit of massaging) 2018-07-18T14:55:24Z stassats: and declaring the type of sb-ext:string-to-octets makes (unless (stringp object) (sb-ext:string-to-octets object)) warn as well 2018-07-18T14:55:34Z jack_rabbit quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-07-18T15:02:49Z brianbok quit (Quit: Page closed) 2018-07-18T15:16:41Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2018-07-18T15:18:39Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T15:22:39Z Xach: I mistype octets-to-string as string-to-octets all the time. I don't know why. A warning would help me. 2018-07-18T15:26:29Z stassats: it'll benefit other stuff as well 2018-07-18T15:27:02Z stassats: and i have no idea why type-difference is so complicated while simply doing (type-intersection x (type-negation y)) is enough 2018-07-18T15:27:15Z stassats: i'll just do that and wait for pfdietz to break it 2018-07-18T15:37:57Z stassats: Xach: try now 2018-07-18T15:41:52Z stassats: i don't often use octets-to-string, but i mistype char-code/code-char all the time 2018-07-18T15:44:14Z stassats: Xof: but (loop (sleep 1)) wastes energy! 2018-07-18T15:45:01Z Xof: whose? 2018-07-18T15:45:07Z stassats: earth's 2018-07-18T15:45:23Z stassats: i'd use something like (sleep most-positive-fixnum) or (sb-thread:join-thread some-thread) 2018-07-18T15:45:30Z stassats: (loop (sleep most-positive-fixnum)) that is 2018-07-18T15:53:20Z flip214: I mostly settle for (loop (sleep 3600)), this way an strace shows that this sleep is intentional and not an integer-became-negative bug 2018-07-18T15:55:55Z stassats: (sb-kernel:%vector-raw-bits (coerce "notabug" 'simple-base-string) 0) => 29120988003463022 2018-07-18T15:55:57Z stassats: use that value 2018-07-18T16:09:12Z milanj_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T16:09:41Z milanj__ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-07-18T17:13:20Z shka1 joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T18:38:25Z ikki quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-07-18T18:43:47Z Xof: ballpark (Fermi estimation, if you will) power use of this VM can't be more than 50W. Waking from sleep for, say, 20000 cycles per second is 0.001% of 2GHz. So power usage of (sleep 1) vs (sleep most-positive-fixnum) is approximately 0.5mW 2018-07-18T18:45:00Z Xof: I dread to think how much more energy has been spent sending this conversation around the world and storing it for posterity than the energy cost of (loop (sleep 1)) 2018-07-18T18:45:31Z Xof: I wonder how long it will take to offset the energy cost of me typing `most-positive-fixnum' 2018-07-18T18:46:34Z Xof: my fingers move, say, 1cm per character, exerting 1N of force, so work done is 0.01J for 20 characters = 0.2J 2018-07-18T18:47:13Z Xof: so my server has to run for 400 seconds for the power saving of (sleep most-positive-fixnum) to outweigh the cost of typing most-positive-fixnum 2018-07-18T18:47:16Z Xof: worth knowing, I feel! 2018-07-18T18:47:30Z Shinmera: In the face of bitcoin miners the power consumption is negligible anyway :) 2018-07-18T18:59:43Z ikki joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T19:05:50Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-07-18T19:09:05Z m00natic quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-18T19:10:56Z makomo_ quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1) 2018-07-18T19:12:01Z stassats: Xof: that's why you should've just pasted (sleep most-positive-fixnum) instead of arguing 2018-07-18T19:12:53Z stassats: what if your VM becomes the most popular VM ever, one billion users, imagine the power savings 2018-07-18T19:15:01Z stassats: and when calculating energy expenditure, don't forget to account for the truck bringing food to the grocery store, so that you can spend all these joules while typing 2018-07-18T19:21:57Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T19:42:59Z joshe joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T19:48:50Z milanj_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T20:07:21Z makomo joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T20:38:03Z shka1 quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2018-07-18T20:42:13Z pierpa joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T20:47:14Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-07-18T20:55:50Z angavrilov quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-18T21:18:27Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-07-18T21:23:13Z rpg quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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"is it (not ratio)?" 2018-07-24T00:58:22Z stassats: or, if i get a union type and negate it and stops being a union type, maybe that'll work 2018-07-24T00:58:40Z pfdietz: Bugs still there in subtypep. lp1694839 2018-07-24T00:59:47Z pfdietz: At least, I assume that still fails. 2018-07-24T00:59:56Z stassats: lp 1694839 2018-07-24T00:59:56Z specbot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1694839 2018-07-24T01:00:18Z stassats: that's different 2018-07-24T01:00:57Z stassats: and something i don't want to be concerned with 2018-07-24T01:01:23Z pfdietz: ok! 2018-07-24T01:06:20Z stassats: (SPECIFIER-TYPE 'bignum) => # (SPECIFIER-TYPE '(not bignum)) => # 2018-07-24T01:06:34Z stassats: so negating would help here 2018-07-24T01:08:08Z stassats: so it has be done manually 2018-07-24T01:08:17Z stassats: s/would/wouldn't/ 2018-07-24T01:09:42Z stassats: "sort of a double negative" 2018-07-24T01:11:53Z stassats: not running the tests and committing due to the heat, letting the CI do more work when it fails and increasing global warming 2018-07-24T01:31:16Z aeth: Is there a way to give SBCL more information for apply? 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Might as well make a contribution on the coding side, and those look easy. 2018-07-26T12:03:37Z jdz: I'm getting some issues with array bounds checking, now trying to see what exactly is the problem. 2018-07-26T12:04:11Z jdz: Just to see if it's related to commit 67c423564950827b4388bed3d4ce7fbcc2c701d5. 2018-07-26T12:10:15Z jdz: Never mind, looks to be my own bug. 2018-07-26T12:21:11Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T12:22:03Z stassats: pfdietz_: i stopped going over them because i want a better solution, an fndb mark "proper-list" instead of touching each transform 2018-07-26T12:31:34Z pfdietz_: Let's create a ticket for a more general solution then, if one does not already exist. But would you object to interim fixes, even if they are more ad hoc? 2018-07-26T12:32:59Z stassats: i would, cause then they will have to be reverted, and these are not bugs per se, just inconveniences 2018-07-26T12:33:56Z stassats: i guess i'll just do the fndb thing this cycle, as i don't have much else things to work on in mind 2018-07-26T12:34:05Z pfdietz_: Ok 2018-07-26T12:34:13Z stassats: maybe making (typep x '(not numeric-type)) not dumb 2018-07-26T12:35:35Z pfdietz_: It's expanding (not numberic-type) into something large? 2018-07-26T12:35:43Z stassats: yes 2018-07-26T12:36:07Z stassats: (specifier-type '(not fixnum)) => # 2018-07-26T12:37:39Z pfdietz_: I guess you could compare the complexity of (typep X (not Y)) vs. that of (not (typep x y)), pick the smaller. 2018-07-26T12:37:57Z stassats: there's no notion of "smaller" 2018-07-26T12:38:16Z stassats: i will just check for (type= x '(not fixnum)), etc. 2018-07-26T12:41:06Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-26T12:42:22Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T12:42:53Z saki joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T12:45:10Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-26T12:46:06Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T12:47:24Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-26T12:57:39Z pfdietz_: Name resolution failed for sbcl.org 2018-07-26T13:03:33Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:06:58Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:16:37Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:19:04Z dwrngr joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:24:05Z Ven`` quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-07-26T13:26:38Z BitPuffin joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:38:10Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:40:47Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-26T13:44:33Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:45:28Z Inline joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T13:49:05Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-07-26T14:19:06Z stassats: cross-compiler type ambiguity in (CTYPEP NIL PARSE-UNKNOWN-TYPE): is annoying the hell out of me 2018-07-26T14:19:24Z shka1 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-07-26T14:32:06Z stassats: ok, (typep x '(not fixnum)) is not as silly now 2018-07-26T14:33:14Z sjl_ joined #sbcl 2018-07-26T14:37:07Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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execute your thread's proper code, and store the result somewhere. 2018-07-28T09:20:31Z Shinmera: Yeah sure but it's kinda too late for that when the application has already been running for months you know 2018-07-28T09:21:49Z Shinmera: Either way, it really does seem like something the implementation should keep track of 2018-07-28T09:23:42Z phoe: Well, you could comment on the ticket and/or make an implementation proposal 2018-07-28T09:40:00Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-28T09:41:37Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-28T09:41:38Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-28T09:41:53Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-28T09:53:30Z makomo joined #sbcl 2018-07-28T10:04:15Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-07-28T10:05:34Z saki quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-07-28T10:05:43Z saki joined #sbcl 2018-07-28T10:07:22Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-07-28T10:12:39Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 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value of *x*, sure. 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