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I am trying to understand the error here: http://report.quicklisp.org/2018-05-01/failure-report/cl-directed-graph.html#cl-directed-graph - "RESULT is read-only in this environment" - code is here: https://github.com/wohonajax/cl-directed-graph/blob/master/src.lisp 2018-05-01T15:06:51Z Ven`` quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-01T15:06:53Z Xach: It is in a project that hasn't changed in a long time and which has built with 1.4.5 and 1.4.6 in the past 2018-05-01T15:09:26Z pkhuong: Xach: https://github.com/TBRSS/serapeum/blob/034da06c4aed3fcad1666d320b33f5508adc0714/binding.lisp#L25 2018-05-01T15:11:10Z Xach: aha 2018-05-01T15:11:16Z Xach: thank you 2018-05-01T15:11:16Z swflint joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T15:14:13Z corci: Project sbcl-master » default,MAC_OS_mavericks_64bit build #3309: FAILURE in 11 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=default,label=MAC_OS_mavericks_64bit/3309/ 2018-05-01T15:16:03Z swflint quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-01T15:23:47Z Intensity joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T15:24:50Z swflint joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T16:10:57Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T16:35:11Z hhdave quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-01T16:42:01Z surya joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T16:52:53Z Posterdati quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-01T16:57:44Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T17:01:41Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-05-01T17:01:51Z joshe quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-01T17:02:09Z joshe joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T17:02:57Z __rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-05-01T17:39:54Z surya quit (Read error: No route to host) 2018-05-01T17:41:13Z dougk_: Looks like "Represent (finite) storage class locations as bitsets" broke 32-bit arm. Did we know this ? 2018-05-01T18:00:35Z scymtym: broke as in build failure? or suboptimal register allocation? 2018-05-01T18:01:50Z dougk_: broke as in crashes in alien.impure.lisp 2018-05-01T18:02:18Z dougk_: this is in a cross-build with x86 as build host. I'm checking whether native arm32-on-arm32 is fine 2018-05-01T18:08:35Z milanj_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T18:11:54Z scymtym: for backends that store registers in SCs in an order different from the one defined by offsets, (iterative) register allocation may yield different results after that commit. iirc, this lead to a problem with a vop that had lifetime issues 2018-05-01T18:12:09Z dougk_: slyrus: i'm pushing a change that gets back the 300k and takes another 200K off. this is in addition to the 200K i saved this morning and already pushed. So i'm fixing it and then some. 2018-05-01T18:17:02Z jsjolen` joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T18:27:59Z dougk_: scymtym: would you like a bug opened for this? same problem with native build. 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I just upgraded SBCL and bordeaux-threads from something a few years older, whose code was working before, and now I get "A function with declared result type NIL returned: BORDEAUX-THREADS:CONDITION-WAIT" whenever my blocking wait on my queue gets woken up 2018-05-01T23:48:46Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-01T23:48:56Z White_Flame: first off, are there any known changes around this interface recently? 2018-05-01T23:49:33Z White_Flame: I don't have any function type declarations in any of my code, and using DESCRIBE for everything down the SBCL source code chain doesn't imply any specified NIL return value either 2018-05-01T23:49:42Z karlosz quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-02T00:02:58Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T00:03:07Z les quit (Quit: "") 2018-05-02T00:08:44Z slyrus1 quit (Quit: slyrus1) 2018-05-02T00:15:15Z les joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T00:18:09Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-02T00:19:12Z slyrus1 joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T00:20:45Z slyrus1 quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-02T00:28:01Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T00:28:53Z PuercoPop quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-05-02T00:32:52Z PuercoPop joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T00:41:10Z dougk_: scymtym: I traced the ARM failure to the point where I see why the debugger fails. The root cause is deeper. I've only made the debugger not barf on itself. 2018-05-02T01:29:20Z karlosz quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-05-02T01:46:31Z White_Flame: okay, I think I've found my problem, and something's confusing the type inference 2018-05-02T01:47:07Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-02T01:47:19Z White_Flame: when I compile impl-sbcl.lisp in bordeaux-threads, it fixes the problem. When I reload bordeaux-threads.lisp, it re-breaks 2018-05-02T01:47:39Z White_Flame: the former has Derived type: (FUNCTION (T T &KEY (:TIMEOUT T)) (VALUES NULL &OPTIONAL)) 2018-05-02T01:48:08Z White_Flame: the latter has Derived type: (FUNCTION (T T &KEY (:TIMEOUT T)) NIL) 2018-05-02T01:48:51Z White_Flame: now, bordeaux-threads.lisp has a defdfun, which checks fboundp, and only runs the defun if it's not already defined, with a body that just has an (error ..) 2018-05-02T01:49:04Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T01:49:06Z White_Flame: ie, creates a default defun if it's not already defined in the impls 2018-05-02T01:49:18Z White_Flame: but that's screwing up the type inference to think that that function should return NIL 2018-05-02T01:49:57Z White_Flame: something must be messed up, because there's no way that something as common as BT is broken in something as common as SBCL 2018-05-02T01:50:27Z White_Flame: the function in question is bt:condition-wait 2018-05-02T02:06:54Z White_Flame: idunno, seems like a heisenbug. Reloading other files also seems to make it work. There's no threading besides 1 little test launch which does condition-wait, as I trip it from the main slime repl to test 2018-05-02T02:10:05Z fisxoj quit (Quit: fisxoj) 2018-05-02T02:10:55Z White_Flame: at the end of BT's condition-wait, I put a format t, and return NIL. After the call to condition-wait, I put a format t. c-w's output happens, but the caller's output doesn't. 2018-05-02T02:12:20Z pfdietz: ERROR has return type of NIL, since it doesn't return. 2018-05-02T02:13:01Z pfdietz: The SBCL compiler must be taking the DEFUN inside the conditional form as unconditionally defining the ftype of that function symbol. 2018-05-02T02:13:06Z White_Flame: here's the actual error printout: https://pastebin.com/0VLRZtHx 2018-05-02T02:13:22Z White_Flame: also, in heisenbug form, I have gotten successes on both Derived Type states 2018-05-02T02:14:00Z White_Flame: now, in this error report, is it thinking that the symbol BORDEAUX-THREADS:CONDITION-WAIT is being returned, or is there a non-printing value after the colon on the first line? 2018-05-02T02:14:24Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-02T02:14:49Z White_Flame: oh, I think I understand what you mean. "result type NIL" == problematic if it returns at all? 2018-05-02T02:15:18Z pfdietz: Right 2018-05-02T02:15:28Z pfdietz: Type NIL is the empty type. 2018-05-02T02:16:53Z White_Flame hacks in some more formats & #. to detect exactly what is loading when 2018-05-02T02:20:29Z White_Flame: right now, the derived type is (FUNCTION (T T &KEY (:TIMEOUT T)) NIL), and it's calling fine, returning, and not breaking 2018-05-02T02:22:06Z pfdietz: The interesting question is what was its type when the function where it was called was compiled. 2018-05-02T02:22:26Z pfdietz: Because compile time for that function is where the type information gets used. 2018-05-02T02:24:31Z White_Flame: ah, this also changes between reloading cached fasls, and rebuilding the fasls 2018-05-02T02:25:19Z White_Flame: specifically, it crashes on use for a full rebuild of BT, and works fine on reloading from cached fasls 2018-05-02T02:25:47Z White_Flame: our image builder blows away ~/.cache/common-lisp before building, and tends to reveal problems like that 2018-05-02T02:29:16Z White_Flame: nope, not even that is realiable to trigger/fix it. Fun :) 2018-05-02T02:33:09Z White_Flame: yep, to the rescue: (eval-when (:compile-toplevel) (describe 'bt:condition-wait)) 2018-05-02T02:33:56Z White_Flame: what that outputs during the different builds determins when it breaks or not 2018-05-02T02:40:24Z White_Flame: yep, even on cycling SBCL, (ql:quickload "bordeaux-threads") (describe 'bt:condition-wait) shows 2 different derived types depending on whether it newly recompiled or not. So that difference is not my code 2018-05-02T02:41:07Z White_Flame: there don't seem to be any function type declarations in BT at all. So does this count as a SBCL bug? 2018-05-02T02:43:58Z Bike: if sbcl gets type declarations from non toplevel defuns that might be a modularity violation 2018-05-02T02:44:56Z White_Flame: and if it does so, it's only doing so at compile time, not from fasl load 2018-05-02T02:45:47Z White_Flame: I should be able to mitigate this in my program by doing a bunch of my own function type declarations in my callers, hopefully 2018-05-02T02:46:33Z Bike: at compile time i meant, yeah 2018-05-02T02:46:40Z Bike: declaiming notinline might help 2018-05-02T02:46:42Z White_Flame: but I now see why this could be a bug that few people hit, because not many do full fasl-cache-empty rebuilds 2018-05-02T02:47:13Z slyrus_ quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-05-02T02:48:20Z White_Flame: notinline does fix it 2018-05-02T02:48:37Z White_Flame: well, the compile-time declaration is still "wrong", but the runtime code doesn't blow up about it 2018-05-02T02:48:46Z White_Flame: s/declaration/description/ 2018-05-02T02:49:19Z White_Flame: notinline is also much easier than going through and getting the right function type for each individual function 2018-05-02T02:50:51Z Bike: yeah notinline is like telling the compiler to step off. might reduce efficiency but i had the impression it wasn't an issue here 2018-05-02T02:54:41Z White_Flame: looks like I have this issue with BT+SBCL in a number of places to fix. Gonna have to go through a put lots of declarations early. 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2018-05-02T22:32:36Z White_Flame: of course, that wouldn't catch uses inbetween (defun foo ...) and (non-toplevel (defun foo ...)) 2018-05-02T22:34:44Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-02T22:51:48Z sjl quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1) 2018-05-02T22:53:55Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T22:56:04Z stassats`: just change bordeaux-threads and be done with it 2018-05-02T23:07:08Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-02T23:09:22Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-02T23:15:34Z luis` joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T23:16:15Z White_Flame: is (setf (symbol-function 'name) (lambda ...)) sufficient in place of a defun to work compatibly everywhere as called by (name ...) ? 2018-05-02T23:16:15Z _death` joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T23:16:26Z White_Flame: after checking that it's not fboundp 2018-05-02T23:16:41Z White_Flame: it works at first glance, but I'm not sure about any other hidden assumptions 2018-05-02T23:16:46Z _death quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-02T23:16:46Z rgrau quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-02T23:16:46Z luis quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-02T23:16:46Z _death` is now known as _death 2018-05-02T23:17:01Z stassats`: just do not expand to a defun when it's bound 2018-05-02T23:17:42Z rgrau joined #sbcl 2018-05-02T23:18:37Z stassats`: but using lambda instead of named-lambda also works 2018-05-02T23:25:02Z White_Flame: yep, but the case remains that SBCL is confused in the presence of non-toplevel DEFUNs, and that wants resolution 2018-05-02T23:25:15Z White_Flame: at least the type inference gets confused 2018-05-02T23:26:07Z White_Flame: since the impl & default DEFUNs are in separate files, then it should work to make a compile-time decision as you mention, to mitigate in the B-T source 2018-05-02T23:26:47Z stassats`: i'm not going to consider half measures 2018-05-02T23:28:40Z White_Flame: SBCL is performing premature optimization on the type knowledge 2018-05-02T23:28:56Z White_Flame: so how that intersects with "half measures" is up for interpretation 2018-05-02T23:29:46Z White_Flame: of course, notinline stops that optimization, but that behavior in the first place makes me question its applicability 2018-05-02T23:30:29Z White_Flame: it does get into halting-problem levels of difficulty, though, as the primary question to be proven is "Will this function's signature ever change?" 2018-05-02T23:33:25Z stassats`: i might have a full measure 2018-05-02T23:37:37Z White_Flame: do you consider that blacklisting idea for type inference as a half measure, or what specifically did that refer to? 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2018-05-03T17:38:34Z Shinmera: Makes up 90% of the traffic in the channel right now 2018-05-03T17:38:41Z pfdietz2 quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-05-03T17:40:08Z flip214: let's change that! 2018-05-03T17:40:34Z stassats: minion: chant 2018-05-03T17:40:35Z minion: MORE GENERAL 2018-05-03T17:41:47Z flip214: less protection faults 2018-05-03T17:42:10Z stassats: that's how you get kids 2018-05-03T17:43:27Z flip214: or got 2018-05-03T17:44:03Z scymtym: stassats: there is a new option that sounds like what we want. i'm enabling it. let's see if it works 2018-05-03T17:44:16Z stassats: time to break something 2018-05-03T17:44:25Z stassats: or, fix, since it's already all broken 2018-05-03T17:44:54Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-05-03T17:45:58Z scymtym: since we always have test failures in at least one configuration, i'm not sure what it will do 2018-05-03T17:46:41Z __rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-05-03T17:46:57Z stassats: i will mark the safepoint thingy as broken 2018-05-03T17:47:07Z stassats: as i have no desire in fixing it 2018-05-03T17:51:53Z stassats: but looks like there's a lot of tests broken, so it will be easier to just fix the thing 2018-05-03T17:52:35Z stassats: i know the places where it's broken, just no fix 2018-05-03T18:39:57Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-05-03T19:25:17Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-05-03T19:32:57Z scymtym: stassats: was there a merge mistake or similar in "Change the way encode-universal-time is folded"? 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The file size will blow up at least a factor of 10. In my application that would be 2 GB of textual assembly. 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I've verified I have +x permissions in the file. Are there any common pitfalls when building on SBCL on OpenBSD? 2018-05-06T01:29:52Z PuercoPop: I've seen their ports version (which builds) changes a call to egcc to ${CC} in src/runtime/Config.x86-openbsd. However applying that change doesn't solve the problem 2018-05-06T01:30:13Z joshe: PuercoPop: sbcl needs to run on a partition mounted with wxallowed 2018-05-06T01:31:16Z joshe: I have a /usr/local/wx directory owned by my user for buildind sbcl, alternately you could edit the fstab entry for /home to mount it with wxallowed 2018-05-06T01:31:16Z PuercoPop: joshe: that makes sense. Thanks I'll read up on that 2018-05-06T01:36:25Z joshe: I'm not sure if it's still necessary to build with egcc on i386, there's a test which should fail if the compiler isn't doing what sbcl expects 2018-05-06T01:36:40Z joshe: but I don't really recall the details of that 2018-05-06T01:46:45Z awolven joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T01:51:03Z awolven quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-06T02:46:02Z awolven joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T02:50:41Z awolven quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-06T03:25:59Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-06T03:43:07Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-06T04:43:27Z Xof quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-06T05:27:08Z karswell_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T05:29:27Z karswell quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-06T06:20:38Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T07:25:13Z awolven joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T07:29:41Z awolven quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-06T07:50:36Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T08:07:52Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-06T08:18:37Z minion quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-06T08:19:33Z minion joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T08:54:15Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T09:40:58Z White_Flame quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-06T09:40:59Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-06T09:41:11Z White_Flame joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T10:27:03Z dtornabene joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T10:51:20Z karlosz quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-05-06T10:56:40Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T11:16:12Z gendl quit 2018-05-06T11:16:36Z gendl joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T11:29:05Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-05-06T11:44:24Z dtornabene quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-06T11:46:24Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T11:58:32Z scymtym_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T12:02:21Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-06T12:11:36Z Xof joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T12:14:13Z ChanServ has set mode +o Xof 2018-05-06T12:20:50Z milanj quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-05-06T12:20:59Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T12:25:40Z awolven joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T12:30:22Z awolven quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-05-06T12:35:58Z scymtym_: Xof: have you considered a decision tree vs. perfect hash + jump table? it compared favorably against PCL's table-based approach in my experiments 2018-05-06T12:42:39Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-06T13:32:15Z Bike: i think a decision tree is what string-case does 2018-05-06T13:33:32Z scymtym_: yes 2018-05-06T13:34:06Z scymtym_: iiuc, Xof was talking about CASE, though 2018-05-06T13:47:43Z ym joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T15:22:09Z Xof: a binary searchish decision tree? That at least is expressible in ordinary-mortal CL code, I guess 2018-05-06T15:22:53Z Xof: clearly I need to implement a bunch of things and benchmark 2018-05-06T15:23:35Z Xof: scymtym_: do you have benchmarking find-restart code? You left some comments saying "this broken version is faster" in there, iirc 2018-05-06T15:25:37Z Xof: also, secretly what I want to do is implement :method-combination duffs-device 2018-05-06T15:41:17Z scymtym_: Xof: maybe you can reanimate https://github.com/scymtym/sb-benchmarks/blob/master/restarts.benchmark.lisp 2018-05-06T15:43:39Z Xof: thanks 2018-05-06T16:02:27Z libre-man quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-06T16:15:17Z libre-man joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T16:34:31Z pfdietz: The typecase presentation slides were interesting. 2018-05-06T16:35:47Z pfdietz: I would like them to be extensible to parameterized types, though. Something like CONS types but for structures or objects of standard classes. 2018-05-06T16:36:14Z pfdietz: The use case is writing a pattern matcher for subtrees of parse trees. 2018-05-06T16:38:14Z XachX quit (Quit: ) 2018-05-06T16:38:14Z XachX quit 2018-05-06T16:38:34Z XachX joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T16:40:33Z Bike: you mean newton's? 2018-05-06T17:04:33Z scymtym_ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-06T17:21:13Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T17:44:06Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T18:10:36Z pfdietz: Yes 2018-05-06T18:32:48Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T18:34:08Z fisxoj quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-06T18:34:50Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-05-06T18:37:14Z fisxoj quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-06T19:25:08Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-06T19:37:52Z Xof: pfdietz: you'll have to come one of these years 2018-05-06T20:02:05Z pfdietz: I would like to. 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Something that gives an ALIST or PLIST or so? 2018-05-07T15:17:37Z flip214: Xof: how would you get a linear code flow of all the :AROUND, :BEFORE, :AFTER, and normal methods for Duff's device? 2018-05-07T15:23:24Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-07T15:23:59Z scymtym: flip214: SB-VM:SPACE-BYTES is exported so i guess you could use that: (sb-vm:space-bytes :dynamic) 2018-05-07T15:24:12Z smokeink quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-07T16:04:38Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-07T16:05:36Z pfdietz2 joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T16:25:09Z pkhuong: Xof: probably not too bad. 2018-05-07T16:25:45Z pkhuong: dougk or stassats probably have better ideas re how to generate the jump table itself in the assembler 2018-05-07T16:44:32Z dougk_: flip214: try SB-VM::TYPE-BREAKDOWN 2018-05-07T16:45:45Z dougk_: I'm thinking also of adding SIZE-BREAKDOWN which is the same but instead of binning by type, does it by range of sizes, probably a logarithmic-ish binning 2018-05-07T16:47:44Z dougk_: scymtym: exporting from an internal package doesn't mean exported to users; the are lots of external symbols in internal-use packages. So it's kind of immaterial to the question of what sb-vm thing to use i think. 2018-05-07T16:48:11Z scymtym: dougk_: you are right 2018-05-07T17:03:07Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T18:09:51Z pfdietz2 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-07T18:42:30Z flip214: scymtym: thanks. anything with more details exported as well, like number of bytes allocated/free in the generations? 2018-05-07T18:43:06Z flip214: dougk_: ah, with :all that looks good. Sadly not exported so not stable, I believe -- but thanks nonetheless! 2018-05-07T18:47:07Z flip214: any way to get the _free_ bytes as well, or is that just (- (SB-C::DYNAMIC-SPACE-SIZE) (sb-vm:space-bytes :dynamic)) ? 2018-05-07T18:51:39Z oleo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-07T18:59:08Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T19:02:29Z oleo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-07T19:03:07Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T19:14:05Z angavrilov quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-07T19:23:33Z oleo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-07T19:24:41Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T19:26:25Z oleo quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-07T19:34:20Z scymtym: flip214: see dougk_'s later remark, though 2018-05-07T19:38:49Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T19:42:11Z pfdietz2 joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T19:48:10Z 07IACZY7H joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T19:48:10Z 7JTAD9QL7 joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:07:57Z slyrus1 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-07T20:13:27Z 7JTAD9QL7 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-07T20:19:51Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-07T20:42:38Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:44:47Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:45:35Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-07T20:45:53Z foom joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:46:00Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:46:50Z p_l_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:47:24Z karlosz_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:49:09Z abbe_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:49:28Z DemolitionMan quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-07T20:52:35Z les` joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T20:53:21Z karlosz quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-07T20:53:21Z les quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-07T20:53:21Z foom2 quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-07T20:53:22Z abbe quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-07T20:53:22Z p_l quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-07T20:53:27Z karlosz_ is now known as karlosz 2018-05-07T20:53:53Z p_l_ is now known as p_l 2018-05-07T21:02:08Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T21:12:02Z slyrus1 joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T21:12:24Z josemanuel joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T21:20:24Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-07T21:27:49Z josemanu1l joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T21:32:28Z josemanuel quit (*.net *.split) 2018-05-07T21:33:23Z josemanu1l quit (Quit: leaving) 2018-05-07T21:33:41Z josemanuel joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T21:34:24Z josemanuel quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-07T21:40:31Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T21:45:19Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-07T21:55:49Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-07T22:04:34Z slyrus1 quit (Quit: slyrus1) 2018-05-07T22:09:14Z pfdietz2 quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-05-07T22:18:21Z slyrus1 joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T22:28:17Z easye quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-07T22:29:31Z minion quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-05-07T22:29:31Z specbot quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-05-07T22:29:56Z specbot joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T22:30:34Z minion joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T22:40:28Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-05-07T22:41:50Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-07T23:08:10Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 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It's a valid example but the compiler doesn't actually do what the example says "and stack allocate it as well." 2018-05-08T20:25:59Z dougk_: not even if A is used exactly one. So change B to (CONS A 'FOO) and it still doesn't do what the example says 2018-05-08T20:29:36Z edgar-rft joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T20:32:51Z pkhuong: 1 2018-05-08T20:38:11Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T20:43:46Z karlosz quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2018-05-08T20:46:02Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T21:10:29Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T21:20:14Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-08T21:36:49Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-08T22:11:03Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 2018-05-08T22:11:03Z corci: Project sbcl-master-windows build #2573: FIXED in 30 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master-windows/2573/ 2018-05-08T22:18:41Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-05-08T22:19:34Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T22:20:54Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T22:24:54Z blackwolf quit (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.2.1)) 2018-05-08T22:28:12Z rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-05-08T22:29:12Z rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T00:04:21Z PuercoPop quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-09T00:08:59Z PuercoPop joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T00:18:48Z zooey quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T00:21:01Z zooey joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T00:30:23Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T00:36:56Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-09T01:05:12Z eponym joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T01:10:52Z eponym quit (Quit: QUIT) 2018-05-09T01:23:14Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T01:26:54Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T01:33:38Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T01:33:55Z karlosz quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-09T01:35:19Z macdavid_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T01:38:26Z macdavid313 quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2018-05-09T02:04:57Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-09T02:05:12Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T02:17:39Z milanj__ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-09T02:24:17Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T02:37:07Z krkini is now known as kini 2018-05-09T02:57:24Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T02:57:37Z macdavid_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T03:15:07Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T03:15:37Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T03:22:55Z fisxoj quit (Quit: fisxoj) 2018-05-09T03:30:07Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T03:46:57Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T04:08:49Z Bike quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 2018-05-09T04:34:17Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T04:35:05Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T04:35:58Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T04:41:35Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-09T04:45:18Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T04:46:59Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T04:51:04Z oleo quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-05-09T04:53:06Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T04:54:46Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T04:58:05Z Xof quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-09T04:58:49Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T05:00:03Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T05:01:01Z Xof joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T05:04:12Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T05:05:13Z pfdietz quit 2018-05-09T05:05:47Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T05:07:05Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T05:15:21Z Xof quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T05:19:21Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T05:20:15Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T05:20:52Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T05:37:04Z scymtym quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T06:03:23Z kini: The following form produces T on SBCL 1.4.4 but causes a package lock violation on SBCL 1.4.7: (fboundp 'sb-impl::read-cycle-counter) 2018-05-09T06:03:23Z kini: Anyone know why? The SBCL manual's chapter on package locks seems to agree with the 1.4.4 behavior, from what I can tell... 2018-05-09T06:08:54Z Xof joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T06:19:16Z jackdaniel: kini: you access internal symbol of sb-impl 2018-05-09T06:19:27Z jackdaniel: if I had to guess, it is a locked package and the symbol was removed 2018-05-09T06:19:37Z jackdaniel: so 'sb-impl::foo tries to intern foo in sb-impl package 2018-05-09T06:19:42Z jackdaniel: what violates the lock 2018-05-09T06:19:49Z kini: ahh 2018-05-09T06:20:55Z jackdaniel: kini: alternative solution: (fboundp (find-symbol "GETCWD" "EXT")) 2018-05-09T06:21:02Z jackdaniel: of course replace symbol and package with your own 2018-05-09T06:23:40Z smokeink quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T06:24:26Z kini: hmm, interesting... so is it ever possible that (fboundp 'sb-impl::read-cycle-counter) could return NIL, rather than T or a package lock violation? 2018-05-09T06:25:13Z jackdaniel: well, if sb-impl had such symbol which is not a function, then sure 2018-05-09T06:25:19Z jackdaniel: but apparently it doesn't 2018-05-09T06:25:21Z jackdaniel: (anymore) 2018-05-09T06:25:26Z kini: oh, right, of course 2018-05-09T06:28:31Z kini: odd, it doesn't seem like there's anything in the git history recently that changed or removed sb-impl::read-cycle-counter. I do see that 1.4.7 is producing a warning about being unable to set the locale, so maybe that's related. Hmm... 2018-05-09T06:36:45Z Xof: that's very unlikely to be related 2018-05-09T06:37:29Z kini: Maybe something wrong with how my distro (NixOS) is building it. I'm trying to compile 1.4.7 from source now. 2018-05-09T06:37:36Z Xof: there is new code to more agressively prune bits of the image 2018-05-09T06:37:59Z Xof: the read-cycle-counter function is declared inline and its name an internal symbol of an internal package 2018-05-09T06:38:11Z Xof: so nothing uses it directly, so it gets removed before dumping the final image 2018-05-09T06:39:39Z Xof: to solve your immediate problem: (defun foo () (sb-vm::%read-cycle-counter)) 2018-05-09T06:40:10Z kini: well, there's also stuff like sbcl-vm::with-cycle-counter which doesn't seem to be defined at startup in my 1.4.7 -- I guess that one is supposed to be user-accessible, right? 2018-05-09T06:41:31Z kini: Huh, running (sb-vm::%read-cycle-counter) directly at the prompt gives me an UNDEFINED-FUNCTION error, but submitting your defun form and then running (foo) works fine 2018-05-09T06:42:02Z kini: Sorry, I'm probably being dumb about something. I don't know much about common lisp... 2018-05-09T06:42:48Z Xof: kini: well, the main thing is that, no, the cycle counter functionality isn't currently exposed to users directly 2018-05-09T06:42:53Z Xof: at least not in any supported way 2018-05-09T06:43:20Z Xof: you can get at it by using it in the same way that sbcl itself does, but that way can change (as you've discovered) 2018-05-09T06:44:43Z Xof: with-cycle-counter will also have been taken out by the tree shaker 2018-05-09T06:45:22Z Xof: (internal symbol of internal package, unused when the complete image is ready) 2018-05-09T06:46:03Z Xof: kini: what do you need? 2018-05-09T06:48:33Z kini: Basically I'm trying to fix a build error when building ACL2 (an interpreter for a language) on SBCL. ACL2 provides a timer function, and I guess it's implemented via cycle counting when possible. 2018-05-09T06:48:33Z kini: So to fix the problem, I need to either modify its usage of the SBCL cycle counter so that it works on newer SBCLs, or use jackdaniel's suggestion to make it fall back to the non-cycle-counting timer when SBCL is too new for read-cycle-counter to be used. 2018-05-09T06:55:13Z kini: Anyway, thanks a lot for your help, Xof and jackdaniel :) 2018-05-09T07:03:10Z macdavid313 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T07:06:27Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-09T07:12:13Z macdavid313 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T07:19:49Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T07:20:03Z jackdaniel just seats on the peanut gallery 2018-05-09T07:20:45Z jackdaniel: *in the (?) :) 2018-05-09T07:26:47Z kini: also *sits :) 2018-05-09T07:27:09Z jackdaniel: right 2018-05-09T07:52:07Z milanj__ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T07:53:35Z scymtym_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T07:54:39Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T08:13:04Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-05-09T09:31:52Z abbe_ is now known as abbe 2018-05-09T09:39:06Z m00natic joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T09:43:26Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T09:44:17Z pfdietz: ACL2! That was the program that was keeping GCL alive, back in the day. They eventually migrated, though. 2018-05-09T09:45:11Z pfdietz: Also one of the sources I use for mutational test generation. 2018-05-09T09:48:27Z scymtym_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-09T10:06:59Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T10:12:21Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T10:12:38Z scymtym__ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T10:19:54Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T10:20:27Z scymtym__ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T10:21:13Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T10:28:06Z macdavid313 quit 2018-05-09T10:40:40Z jdz quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-09T10:44:05Z jdz joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T11:57:16Z epony quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-09T11:59:03Z epony joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T12:19:42Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T12:51:04Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T13:00:50Z milanj__ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-09T13:01:33Z milanj__ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T13:03:50Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T13:12:16Z rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T13:33:58Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-05-09T13:39:36Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-09T13:53:29Z DemolitionMan quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-09T13:53:30Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T13:57:00Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T14:15:34Z sjl quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1) 2018-05-09T14:33:09Z DemolitionMan quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-09T14:36:34Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T15:15:03Z joshe: jackdaniel: just wondering, have you tried to use ecl to build sbcl? 2018-05-09T15:15:10Z joshe also sits in the peanut gallery ;) 2018-05-09T15:15:50Z jackdaniel: some time ago, I've hit some problems 2018-05-09T15:15:57Z jackdaniel: these particular problems should be solved by now 2018-05-09T15:16:04Z jackdaniel: but I didn't run it again after that 2018-05-09T15:16:14Z jackdaniel: I think it didn't work for stassats though 2018-05-09T15:16:39Z jackdaniel: I will try again soon probably, because last time it helped me to find some interesting bugs wrt compiler macros 2018-05-09T15:20:52Z joshe: I ask because I'm about to sink more time into getting clisp up on a new platform so it can build sbcl packages 2018-05-09T15:22:05Z jackdaniel: I've built sbcl with clisp without problem afair 2018-05-09T15:22:08Z joshe: the last time I tried, there was a macrolet which seemed to be not shadowing a global function, but if you renamed the macro then it failed later on with something else 2018-05-09T15:22:54Z joshe: yes, it works fine as long as clisp itself works 2018-05-09T15:23:07Z jackdaniel: exactly 2018-05-09T15:23:32Z joshe: at least ffcall seems to be maintained now 2018-05-09T15:26:16Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2018-05-09T15:33:47Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T15:41:27Z DemolitionMan quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-09T15:50:47Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T16:13:56Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-09T16:20:48Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T16:25:49Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T16:51:47Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T17:00:52Z m00natic quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-05-09T17:39:12Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T17:49:55Z Xof: I tried ecl recently and it fell over pretty quickly 2018-05-09T17:50:01Z Xof: I didn't investigate because it wasn't my main focus 2018-05-09T17:50:41Z Xof: clisp should work (has worked in the past); ccl and cmucl likewise. I think abcl and xcl have also worked in the past, but xcl stopped working for me a while ago and piso has vanished :-( 2018-05-09T17:56:39Z Xof: do we not have something like destructuring-bind-or-program-error? 2018-05-09T17:56:57Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T18:04:54Z milanj_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T18:06:42Z edgar-rft joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T18:07:44Z milanj__ quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2018-05-09T18:12:22Z joshe: yes, I've been using clisp for year 2018-05-09T18:14:13Z joshe: ccl might be nice, but I don't know if I have the energy to try porting it again 2018-05-09T18:17:58Z jackdaniel: what platform? 2018-05-09T18:18:03Z joshe: openbsd 2018-05-09T18:18:18Z jackdaniel triggered sbcl build on newest ecl develop head 2018-05-09T18:18:33Z jackdaniel: openbsd is harsh, I had number of problems when fixing bugs on it 2018-05-09T18:18:48Z joshe: yea 2018-05-09T18:19:48Z joshe: feel free to ping me if you're blocked by something weird openbsd does 2018-05-09T18:20:14Z jackdaniel: thanks, will do 2018-05-09T18:20:25Z jackdaniel: I have a fairly stable environment in VM for it 2018-05-09T18:20:54Z jackdaniel: (same for netbsd, freebsd, haiku and windows :) 2018-05-09T18:21:00Z jackdaniel: but this is offtopic, sorry 2018-05-09T18:38:09Z milanj_ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-09T18:46:28Z jjkola joined #sbcl 2018-05-09T19:05:25Z pkhuong: Xof: I think the xcl/abcl person is now into cryptocurrencies. step 1: write an ethereum backend for SBCL ;) 2018-05-09T19:17:00Z Xof: seriously? 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Finding the outermost is 3 times faster 2018-05-11T19:42:48Z Xof: restart-bind is a bit slower; compute-restarts is a fair chunk slower 2018-05-11T20:04:03Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-11T20:08:49Z scymtym: Xof: i don't have any data to back this up, but i would expect that establishing restarts and then not invoking them is the most common case 2018-05-11T20:08:59Z pkhuong: that is the usual optimisation 2018-05-11T20:11:32Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-11T20:11:33Z attila_lendvai quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2018-05-11T20:12:32Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-11T20:15:02Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-05-11T20:15:02Z attila_lendvai quit (Changing host) 2018-05-11T20:15:02Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-05-11T20:24:08Z attila_lendvai quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2018-05-11T20:28:51Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-11T20:29:27Z DemolitionMan joined #sbcl 2018-05-11T20:31:39Z pkhuong: (make the happy path fast) 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The difference in establishing restarts is (just) outside measurement noise 2018-05-12T07:01:32Z Beepy joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T07:02:16Z Beepy: I have a patch I'd like to submit for review, but I can't seem to create a launchpad account. Is there someone I can email the patch to? 2018-05-12T07:04:27Z Xof: mail sbcl-devel 2018-05-12T07:08:02Z Xof: (you probably need to subscribe to that to post) 2018-05-12T07:08:10Z Xof: what's the patch about? 2018-05-12T07:09:53Z Beepy: a small patch for Bug #1768652 2018-05-12T07:10:59Z Xof: Great. I don't know about creating launchpad accounts, but if that's not working for you then mailing a patch to sbcl-devel is fine 2018-05-12T07:11:50Z shka_ quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2018-05-12T07:11:56Z Shinmera: Launchpad needs an ubuntu now account or what 2018-05-12T07:13:54Z Beepy: Yeah, some ubuntu one account that it won't let me verify my e-mail for 2018-05-12T07:43:30Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T07:48:05Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-05-12T08:01:28Z Beepy quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.6) 2018-05-12T09:00:33Z khrbt quit (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in) 2018-05-12T09:01:36Z khrbt joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T09:10:42Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T09:16:55Z zooey quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-12T09:17:12Z zooey joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T09:39:45Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-12T09:43:05Z jjkola quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2018-05-12T09:44:57Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T10:14:56Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-12T10:18:16Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T10:45:33Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T11:02:17Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2018-05-12T11:39:44Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T11:57:31Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T12:01:24Z pfdietz: I don't think setting up or finding restarts are typically on hot paths. So making either faster would not be a big win. 2018-05-12T12:02:46Z pfdietz: Biggest win may be recognizing error code as low execution rate and moving it away so it doesn't pollute caches. 2018-05-12T12:06:37Z Xof: ah, but 2018-05-12T12:07:23Z Xof: restarts are secretly dynamically-scoped functions and don't in fact have any forced involvement with errors 2018-05-12T12:09:45Z Xof: they also need not transfer control 2018-05-12T12:10:00Z Xof: so finding restarts can end up on the hot path 2018-05-12T12:11:39Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T12:12:45Z scymtym: reading a file with :element-type character and repeatedly using the restart to recover from decoding errors could be an example 2018-05-12T12:14:03Z scymtym: not sure how much time (in relation to everything else) is spent finding and/or establishing restarts in that case, though 2018-05-12T12:18:14Z pfdietz quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-05-12T12:19:08Z Xof: yeah. I am also comfortable with slowing down almost any interactive part of the machinery (e.g. compute-restarts is probably only used in interactive debuggers) 2018-05-12T12:21:08Z Xof: I think I can probably get the cost of establishing restarts back down to what it was 2018-05-12T12:24:42Z scymtym: should this work (read-sequence (make-string 100000) (open "/dev/urandom" :direction :input :external-format '(:utf8 :replacement #\?))) ? 2018-05-12T12:35:36Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T12:37:14Z pfdietz: The RANDOM-TYPE-PROP tests in ansi-tests should be registered. 2018-05-12T12:37:54Z pfdietz: They have information about what functions are called on, but that should be separated out, 2018-05-12T12:38:59Z pfdietz: That could then be used to test for compiler errors on bad calls, like start/end out if range, improper lists, etc. 2018-05-12T12:39:26Z pfdietz: Don't write tests, write test generators. 2018-05-12T12:39:50Z pfdietz: registered? refactored 2018-05-12T12:40:05Z pfdietz: silly autocorrect 2018-05-12T12:52:06Z scymtym: Xof: this is for SB-EXT:OCTETS-TO-STRING with many replacements: https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/decoding-error-replacement-profile.png 2018-05-12T13:11:47Z khrbt quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2018-05-12T13:16:29Z khrbt joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T13:21:31Z scymtym: one thing we could improve is TRY-RESTART calling FIND-RESTART and INVOKE-RESTART calling it again 2018-05-12T13:23:06Z greaser|q quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-05-12T13:23:27Z khrbt quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-12T13:23:57Z greaser|q joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T13:24:49Z khrbt joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T13:25:34Z thorondor[m] quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2018-05-12T13:26:09Z katco[m] quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-12T13:35:43Z Xof: right 2018-05-12T13:37:27Z Xof: so, if I'm reading that correctly, establishing the restarts (the purple and orange bits under with-simple-condition-restarts) is less than the error handling 2018-05-12T13:37:30Z Xof: nice graph 2018-05-12T13:39:01Z Bike: sbcl has flame graphs? 2018-05-12T13:40:17Z scymtym: i want to add mostly static SVG flamegraphs to sb-sprof. but the screenshot is https://github.com/scymtym/clim.flamegraph/tree/future 2018-05-12T13:40:32Z Bike: Nice 2018-05-12T13:41:11Z pfdietz quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2018-05-12T13:41:15Z thorondor[m] joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T13:41:48Z Xof: so much classoid-typep 2018-05-12T13:42:16Z Xof: that's presumably from the handler-bind 2018-05-12T13:42:29Z Bike: i think handler bind and break on signals make it pretty inevitable 2018-05-12T13:42:32Z scymtym: Xof: i think so. the labels of the purple and orange bits are alloc-tramp and some cleanup-fun so i guess they are from establishing the restarts 2018-05-12T13:43:24Z Bike: i guess you could have handler bind expand into something with type checking functions instead of just the types 2018-05-12T13:43:58Z Bike: they wouldn't have to be closures, so maybe it wouldn't be too bad 2018-05-12T13:44:01Z Xof: we probably already do that 2018-05-12T13:44:19Z scymtym: i thought using the classoid is already the "optimization" 2018-05-12T13:44:42Z scymtym: compiling something like a dispatch would be the real optimization 2018-05-12T13:44:52Z Bike: yeah, in the expansion it just has the classoid 2018-05-12T13:45:15Z Bike: and... with a more complicated type it does expand into a function. 2018-05-12T13:45:26Z scymtym: presumably because it would be (lambda (c) (classoid-typep c )) otherwise 2018-05-12T13:48:33Z Xof: in classoid-typep, I think we are missing a fast path, something like (and (not (layout-invalid obj-layout)) (eq (classoid-layout classoid) obj-layout)) before the multiple-value-bind gubbins 2018-05-12T13:48:42Z katco[m] joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T15:27:20Z karswell_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T15:32:02Z karswell_ is now known as karswell 2018-05-12T15:47:22Z edgar-rft quit (Quit: edgar-rft) 2018-05-12T16:11:27Z Xof: anyway, take a look: https://github.com/csrhodes/sbcl/commits/o1-find-restart 2018-05-12T16:23:36Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-12T16:36:38Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-12T16:39:16Z Xof: 17:23 *** scymtym QUIT Ping timeout: 255 seconds> 2018-05-12T16:39:18Z Xof: ~> 2018-05-12T16:41:04Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-12T16:41:51Z scymtym: Xof: i had to ride home. will take a look when child is asleep 2018-05-12T16:43:00Z Xof: no rush. 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I guess not a problem if argument types were being checked anyway. 2018-05-12T22:38:59Z DemolitionMan quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 2018-05-12T22:39:53Z pfdietz: But then why subclassing? 2018-05-12T22:40:31Z pfdietz: Type constraints from the standard? 2018-05-12T22:45:28Z Xof: make the clhs-standardized class a structure class, make the sbcl-internal implementation also a structure class (so that we can get random numbers and intern symbols without clos being built) 2018-05-12T22:45:44Z Xof: then let people who want to experiment go wild 2018-05-12T22:52:50Z aeth: I want the opposite feature. structures that cannot have inheritance in any way. (Apparently structures have some limited form of inheritance that no one uses.) Then, afaik, an implementation could allow :element-type some-structure-type in arrays, and CL has both arrays-of-structs and structs-of-arrays, making it good competition for Java/C#/D/etc. 2018-05-12T22:54:21Z aeth: Well, typed hash tables would still be a missing feature. (Typed lists are trivial to write with structs.) 2018-05-12T22:55:13Z pfdietz: The problem with inlining finalized structures in arrays is getting object identity right. Access of the array is not supposed to copy them. 2018-05-12T22:56:52Z pfdietz: The specialized arrays in CL implementations are typically either T or of some type on which EQ is not well defined. 2018-05-12T22:58:04Z aeth: It wouldn't copy. I think the main issue would be if an object obtained through an array reference is still alive while the array reference itself is no longer active. 2018-05-12T22:58:14Z aeth: I guess the other issue would be setting an element of the array. 2018-05-12T22:59:49Z pfdietz: So storing into the array overwrites the structure there? That would violate the usual semantics, making behavior differ from inspecialized arrays. 2018-05-12T22:59:58Z pfdietz: yes 2018-05-12T23:02:05Z aeth: Arrays and hash tables containing things more specific than T are among the few things that I think would have to be solved at the implementation level rather than addable through a library, although I think typed hash tables could be written on top of typed arrays. 2018-05-12T23:08:44Z aeth: pfdietz: Would it be possible to make an array containing elements of the type some-structure to be essentially a union of some-structure and some-structure-pointer? If set directly, some-structure-pointer and not as efficient (but probably no worse than T arrays), and if set indirectly, efficient? So e.g. (setf (some-structure-foo (aref some-structures 42)) 14f0) vs. (setf (aref some-structures 42) some-structure) 2018-05-12T23:09:09Z aeth: So then people wanting the desired behavior would just have to be careful 2018-05-12T23:09:23Z pfdietz: There are two things you might want from all this. 2018-05-12T23:10:24Z pfdietz: The first is getting the objects laid out in memory nicely. A compacting collector should do that, mostly. 2018-05-12T23:11:32Z aeth: Well, one thing that I would want is preserved type information in my data structures. Type an element in a struct, type the array to be of that struct type. Now the compiler knows what type that thing is. 2018-05-12T23:11:48Z pfdietz: The second is allowing code accessing the array to make assumptions about the types of the elements. 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Not ADD 2 as I woul dhave expected if x was boxed (its least significant bit is 0 for fixnums, yes?) 2018-05-15T13:09:33Z loke: I mean, the code works, and everything runs correctly, so clearly there is nothing wrong, but I'm still curious as to why/how this works. 2018-05-15T13:18:20Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-05-15T13:21:36Z Ven`` quit (Client Quit) 2018-05-15T13:33:34Z Xof: loke: if you see (sb-disassem:disassemble-code-component <>) on that, you'll see the unboxing stage 2018-05-15T13:39:21Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-05-15T14:05:57Z loke: Xof: Oh, cool. 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Have you had a chance to think about the O(1) find restarts? 2018-05-16T10:02:20Z Xof: also, I had a thought about how to improve the generic specializers work 2018-05-16T10:02:34Z Xof: (removing at least one of the generic-function calls) 2018-05-16T10:02:57Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-16T10:03:03Z scymtym: hi Xof. i had a look but didn't come to a conclusion yet 2018-05-16T10:03:17Z scymtym has to give a presentation in two hours 2018-05-16T10:03:25Z scymtym: maybe we can talk about it later today 2018-05-16T10:04:26Z Xof: no rush 2018-05-16T10:21:50Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-16T10:27:32Z stassats left #sbcl 2018-05-16T10:27:50Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-05-16T10:34:10Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-05-16T10:39:57Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-16T10:50:54Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-16T11:01:16Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I ended up doing this: https://pastebin.com/1B9EgmVd 2018-05-17T18:51:50Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-17T18:51:51Z White_Flame: lines 6-9 specifically, line 9 was the original 2018-05-17T18:52:21Z slyrus2 joined #sbcl 2018-05-17T18:52:29Z White_Flame: and that code should never run in SBCL anyway, because SBCL has an implementation for all the functions :-P 2018-05-17T18:53:02Z White_Flame: this is the macro which defines the fallback default functions, many of which simply report an error that functionality is not available on the current implementation 2018-05-17T18:55:41Z White_Flame: Xof: what's the nature of the workaround? 2018-05-17T18:56:00Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-05-17T18:56:29Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-17T19:32:15Z BitPuffin quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-17T19:37:24Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-05-17T19:57:56Z Beepy joined #sbcl 2018-05-17T20:05:51Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-17T20:23:51Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-05-17T20:38:12Z gargaml joined #sbcl 2018-05-17T20:38:24Z pfdietz: White_Flame: if it never runs in sbcl, just reader conditionality out 2018-05-17T20:38:36Z pfdietz: conditionalize it out 2018-05-17T20:38:53Z pfdietz: #-sbcl etc. 2018-05-17T20:39:10Z White_Flame: I didn't check every single function to see if that was the case 2018-05-17T20:39:19Z White_Flame: this "still plays by the rules" of what the file is doing 2018-05-17T21:18:33Z Xof: White_Flame: not to attempt to use derived types of non-toplevel-defined functions 2018-05-17T21:19:09Z White_Flame: yeah, that was my thought. 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What expense do we way by crossing into the C world? 2018-05-25T20:54:51Z stylewarning: do we pay* 2018-05-25T20:55:09Z pkhuong: yeah, I was thinking about that. I think a vectorised implementation of something like the naive inversion would work better if you're generating a ton of them 2018-05-25T20:56:13Z pkhuong: if your block size is large enough (~1-4K floats), one C call to populate an array of variates should have negligible overhead. 2018-05-25T20:56:47Z stylewarning: pkhuong: What's the meaning of the trampolines here? http://codepad.org/GZrDUQTK 2018-05-25T20:58:00Z pkhuong: I can only speculate. that's new output in the profiler I think. 2018-05-25T20:58:05Z stylewarning: I see. 2018-05-25T20:58:24Z pkhuong: oh... you're calling exp for individual doubles? that's not great. 2018-05-25T20:59:11Z stylewarning: I haven't tried restructuring the interfaces at all (e.g., asking for an array of doubles or the like) 2018-05-25T20:59:43Z pkhuong: I'd start by bumming a vectorised exp from something like mkl, if not one of the faster open sauce libraries. 2018-05-25T21:01:31Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2018-05-25T21:08:08Z 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No idea how to do that stuff. (But I'm interested.) 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If you're doing minimal processing on a ton of data, I'd focus my attention on making the streaming memory accesses faster. 2018-05-29T21:49:40Z copec: (sorry for totally off-top, just curious ) 2018-05-29T21:50:35Z trittweiler_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-29T21:50:57Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-29T21:50:59Z pkhuong: So simple stuff like using huge (or giga) pages, or permuting / compressing data to make it more information dense. http://sites.utexas.edu/jdm4372/ might have some interesting stuff. 2018-05-29T21:55:35Z eudoxia quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-29T22:00:39Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T22:02:47Z stylewarning: copec: Yes I have. 2018-05-29T22:03:07Z stylewarning: pkhuong: thanks 2018-05-29T22:05:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2018-05-29T22:41:34Z PuercoPop quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-29T22:47:17Z PuercoPop joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T22:48:41Z rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T22:52:57Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-05-29T23:04:12Z BitPuffin quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-29T23:05:53Z karlosz quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-29T23:07:58Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T23:11:09Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T23:15:53Z karlosz quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-29T23:29:49Z Kevslinger joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T23:44:20Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-05-29T23:54:27Z rpg quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I'm trying to find information about how to write libraries. Can you recommend anything? Thank you! 2018-05-31T09:22:23Z loke: andrei-n: What do you mean? 2018-05-31T09:22:30Z loke: What kind of libraries? 2018-05-31T09:23:11Z shka_ quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2018-05-31T09:24:30Z andrei-n: I've been reading a style guide on common lisp and they recommend writing libraries. But I can't find anything on the internet. Thanks anyways... 2018-05-31T09:27:08Z Lord_Nightmare quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-05-31T09:27:20Z Lord_Nightmare2 joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T09:28:17Z Lord_Nightmare2 is now known as Lord_Nightmare 2018-05-31T09:30:58Z andrei-n: Well, if it doesn't exist I'll find something else. 2018-05-31T09:32:03Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T09:38:17Z Kevslinger joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T10:13:08Z AetherWind quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-05-31T10:39:43Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T10:43:58Z Xof: andrei-n: lisp libraries are really just any kind of lisp code that does something, with an interface that other lisp programs can use to do that something. 2018-05-31T10:44:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-31T10:44:38Z Xof: andrei-n: it's not like there's something magical (like special linker flags or position-independent code) that makes some lisp code more or less suitable to be a library 2018-05-31T10:45:04Z Xof: it just needs an (ideally designed, tested, documented) programmer interface 2018-05-31T10:48:26Z andrei-n: I don't know why can't everything be simple and clear. For example, the distinction between packages and libraries is confusing. 2018-05-31T10:55:47Z pfdietz: Look at quicklisp for some examples, and also to see if what you want to write has already been written. 2018-05-31T10:57:20Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T10:58:06Z pfdietz: One thing I'd strongly suggest is not using short package names or nicknames that are likely to collide with other packages. Such collisions mean your library could not be used together with that other code without one or both being modified. 2018-05-31T11:02:15Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-05-31T11:02:32Z andrei-n: pfdietz, I know it has already been written since it's an exercise. I'm writing a tokenizer that takes a grammar and a string and outputs a list of tokens. And also, quicklisp doesn't have a tutorial how to write libraries/packages. And I wanted to use libraries because I'd like to use it for another project. 2018-05-31T11:07:29Z _death: there's https://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/8j9ing/how_do_you_go_about_starting_a_common_lisp/ 2018-05-31T11:07:53Z _death: this isn't the right channel to discuss such things, though.. try #lisp 2018-05-31T11:11:55Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) 2018-05-31T11:12:52Z andrei-n: Thanks. 2018-05-31T11:13:10Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T11:18:48Z _death: I also wanted to mention https://web.archive.org/web/20150214050540/http://weitz.de:80/packages.html .. too bad it's no longer available from the actual site 2018-05-31T11:20:29Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-31T11:41:05Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T11:49:59Z Kevslinger quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 2018-05-31T11:54:02Z pfdietz: For testing, I suggest using one of the more popular testing packages. And check that your tests actually cover all your code. SBCL has a coverage tool for that, or you could use the portable (and venerable) COVER package written by Waters. 2018-05-31T12:02:38Z pfdietz quit 2018-05-31T12:07:43Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-31T12:13:53Z kini quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 2018-05-31T12:20:54Z kini joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:21:30Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:23:43Z Kevslinger joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:31:28Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:46:06Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:46:27Z Ven` joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:46:43Z Ven` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-05-31T12:47:02Z Ven` joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T12:49:41Z Ven`` quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-05-31T12:59:44Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T13:21:14Z Ven` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-05-31T13:21:26Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T13:23:43Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-31T13:25:11Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T13:25:39Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-05-31T13:55:05Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-05-31T13:56:46Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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