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But the doc/internals/foreign-linkage.texinfo goes to great length to explain why these are different. 2018-03-01T18:22:49Z dougk_: i think that's plain dumb 2018-03-01T18:23:00Z dougk_: simplify the interface boundary, right? 2018-03-01T18:23:38Z dougk_: basically elfcore wants to perform all the linkage at startup in C and eliminate *linkage-info*, at least for the symbols wired into the binary 2018-03-01T18:24:08Z dougk_: so why should each of three places have to go: 'if (datap) write_it_this_way() else write_it_that_way()' ? 2018-03-01T18:25:48Z stassats: there's write-linkage-table-entry 2018-03-01T18:26:44Z dougk_: exactly, but the C interface should be that. 2018-03-01T18:27:17Z stassats: i have no opinion on this, it's quite inconsequential 2018-03-01T18:27:36Z dougk_: good answer 2018-03-01T18:31:02Z myrkraverk quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-01T18:42:28Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T18:43:12Z ckonstanski joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T18:46:31Z karlosz_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T18:50:36Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-01T18:51:25Z flip214: dougk_: if I understand the issue correctly, why not have a pointer which is set once and then called through (indirectly)? 2018-03-01T18:52:05Z flip214: Ie. a result int (*write_it_in_my_way)(FILE *f, int x); write_it_in_my_way(stdout, 2); 2018-03-01T18:52:11Z flip214: or whatever the correct syntax then is 2018-03-01T18:55:24Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T18:56:37Z dougk_: flip214: no, the C api should match the Lisp. i only asked the question because Nikodemus obviously took the time to document it, and I mistook a "descriptive" for "prescriptive" explanation 2018-03-01T18:57:55Z dougk_: it's rare enough that anyone documents something; i thought there must be reason I wasn't seeing 2018-03-01T18:59:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-01T19:02:12Z myrkraverk joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T19:14:53Z karswell quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-01T19:30:09Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T19:30:51Z karlosz_ quit (Quit: karlosz_) 2018-03-01T19:38:57Z trittweiler quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-01T19:46:02Z fisxoj quit (Quit: fisxoj) 2018-03-01T20:10:40Z dougk___ joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T20:12:26Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-01T20:20:25Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T20:21:53Z dougk___ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-01T20:32:28Z attila_lendvai quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-01T20:33:02Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-01T20:34:20Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T20:40:31Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T21:01:02Z fisxoj quit (Quit: fisxoj) 2018-03-01T21:11:35Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-01T21:14:04Z jack_rabbit quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-03-01T21:15:31Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T21:17:23Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T21:19:49Z svillemot joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T21:20:05Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-01T21:24:56Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-01T21:30:17Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-01T21:32:38Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T22:09:24Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-01T22:13:06Z Jesin joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T22:14:15Z attila_lendvai quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-01T22:15:20Z Jesin quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-01T22:32:12Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T22:32:44Z angavrilov quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-01T22:35:57Z Jesin joined #sbcl 2018-03-01T22:46:03Z Andros left #sbcl 2018-03-01T22:51:35Z Xof: dougk_: fare asks on twitter about whether the finalizer thread affects the fork-friendliness of the system 2018-03-01T22:52:15Z Xof: will otherwise-single-threaded code be unable to fork if it's had finalizers triggered? 2018-03-01T22:53:11Z Xof: flip214: I tried replying to you and got a bounce 2018-03-01T22:55:47Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-01T22:58:03Z dougk_: Xof: that's a good question. we don't fork. i would tend to go by http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/000095399/functions/fork.html 2018-03-01T22:58:34Z dougk_: only one thread exists, and the only think it can safely do is exec. 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2018-03-02T06:43:43Z emaczen: Err I mean an object 2018-03-02T06:46:11Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-02T07:03:59Z zooey quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-02T07:08:05Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-02T07:17:02Z angavrilov joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T07:28:04Z zooey joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T07:29:58Z oleo quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-03-02T07:34:01Z flip214: Xof: sent out the right email address, thanks for the notice 2018-03-02T08:13:53Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T08:19:14Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-02T08:26:50Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T08:32:42Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T08:36:47Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-02T08:44:49Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T09:52:40Z shka joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T09:52:45Z shka: hi 2018-03-02T09:53:58Z shka: can i call write with file stream on multiple threads given i provide mutex around the call? 2018-03-02T09:54:43Z shka: yesterday i did just that, and I got non unicode character in result code, even though write was protected 2018-03-02T09:55:04Z shka: not sure why this happend though 2018-03-02T09:55:21Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T09:55:26Z shka: i did not call flush after write, though 2018-03-02T09:58:28Z m00natic joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T10:14:43Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T10:19:54Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-02T10:53:37Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T10:56:19Z stassats: emaczen: you can try sb-introspect::object-size 2018-03-02T10:57:09Z stassats: setting to *finalizer-thread* nil before working will break existing code 2018-03-02T10:57:20Z stassats: forking 2018-03-02T10:59:03Z stassats: but it has just to ignore the thread and make *finalizer-thread* back to T 2018-03-02T11:09:10Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T11:10:14Z Ven` joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T11:10:14Z Ven`` quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-02T11:13:46Z karlosz_ quit (Quit: karlosz_) 2018-03-02T11:23:13Z stassats: sourceforge outages are starting to be annoying 2018-03-02T11:23:16Z stassats: git outages 2018-03-02T11:31:13Z cbs quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-02T11:49:24Z trittweiler joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T12:00:49Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-02T12:10:29Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T12:15:32Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T12:19:57Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-02T12:20:09Z fe[nl]ix: isn't it time to move to github ? 2018-03-02T12:20:39Z stassats: and when github has an outage? 2018-03-02T12:24:27Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T12:24:55Z fe[nl]ix: it happens much less often 2018-03-02T12:29:57Z fe[nl]ix: I mirror my repositories to Gitlab, Bitbucket and even common-lisp.net 2018-03-02T12:30:43Z fe[nl]ix: I wish there was built-in load-balancing, so that I could commit to any of those and the changes would get replicated 2018-03-02T12:31:18Z attila_lendvai: github is so convenient that it was a mayor factor for me to start new projects using git instead of darcs 2018-03-02T12:31:52Z fe[nl]ix: interesting 2018-03-02T12:32:06Z fe[nl]ix: that would be an awesome project 2018-03-02T12:32:13Z fe[nl]ix: I'll think about it 2018-03-02T12:34:04Z pfdietz: I wonder what sourceforge thought the upside was of recent changes. 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Using interpreted form instead." I wonder what it doesn't like 2018-03-02T19:04:12Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-02T19:05:00Z Xof: right! 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ABCL can't always compile ((lambda (x y) ...) arg1 arg) but sometimes it can. 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2018-03-04T17:02:51Z stassats: how close is it to being reached? 2018-03-04T17:02:55Z scymtym: 32 2018-03-04T17:04:15Z scymtym: i think it is currently subsumed by the limit for SC-OFFSET 2018-03-04T17:05:17Z stassats: sc-offset is only for reporting 2018-03-04T17:05:36Z stassats: but i doubt you're going to use 4GB of stack locations 2018-03-04T17:06:06Z scymtym: no, 32 locations, the integer is used as a bitset 2018-03-04T17:06:41Z stassats: but sc-offset is not a bitset 2018-03-04T17:07:23Z scymtym: want me to push the code somewhere? may be easier than trying to explain it 2018-03-04T17:07:42Z stassats: well, i'm not eager to dive into it 2018-03-04T17:07:55Z stassats: and i don't mind imposing limits if they are currently not reached 2018-03-04T17:08:52Z stassats: porting to itanium? 2018-03-04T17:10:09Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-04T17:12:39Z scymtym: for platforms with many registers, a larger integer type can be used. performance would go bad if there were more registers than bits in a word 2018-03-04T17:13:45Z stassats: ia64 has 128 2018-03-04T17:14:50Z scymtym: ok, that wouldn't work so well 2018-03-04T17:15:10Z stassats: nobody's going to touch itanium anytime soon 2018-03-04T17:15:21Z stassats: and don't give nyef ideas 2018-03-04T17:15:44Z scymtym: however, i designed the location set more or less as an abstract data-type so using a different representation on certain platforms shouldn't be too much work 2018-03-04T17:16:03Z stassats: supposedly, simd bitsets could be used 2018-03-04T17:16:38Z scymtym: where by "abstract data-type" i mean SC-LOCATIONS-COUNT is basically an alias for LOGCOUNT, etc 2018-03-04T17:18:03Z scymtym: i will go ahead and summarize this as "we think we can figure something out when we get there" 2018-03-04T17:20:06Z scymtym: saves a little less than 10 % of both runtime and consing when compiling ironclad 2018-03-04T17:25:42Z scymtym: hm, breaks alpha in cross-build runner 2018-03-04T17:25:53Z stassats: "ha" 2018-03-04T17:26:10Z stassats: 64 floats 2018-03-04T17:26:35Z stassats: but is it really 2018-03-04T17:28:20Z stassats: hppa claims 64 as well 2018-03-04T17:28:30Z stassats: yet defines 32 2018-03-04T17:28:45Z stassats: just lower 64 to 32 and see if it works? 2018-03-04T17:29:44Z scymtym: the problem was some structure layout mismatch for STORAGE-BASE, but i can try that 2018-03-04T17:32:18Z stassats: now sparc actually uses 64 with #+sparc-64 2018-03-04T17:32:47Z stassats: but :sparc-64 is used strangely, some places do (member :sparc-64 *backend-subfeatures*) 2018-03-04T17:32:55Z stassats: and some #!+sparc-64 2018-03-04T17:33:36Z scymtym: stassats: i'm out of time for today. the code is at https://github.com/scymtym/sbcl/tree/wip-bitset-sc-locations in case you want to have a look 2018-03-04T17:33:53Z stassats: i'm dealing with source locations now 2018-03-04T17:34:18Z stassats: does sparc really have 64 float registers? 2018-03-04T17:34:19Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-04T17:34:22Z karswell joined #sbcl 2018-03-04T17:35:20Z stassats: it does 2018-03-04T17:38:44Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-04T17:40:42Z phoe: stassats: do you have access to sparc64 machines? I ask because I have one that I might fire up with any OS there that I manage to install. (Note: I only managed to install Solaris 10 and FreeBSD on it, Debian and Gentoo hung on boot) 2018-03-04T17:40:53Z stassats: phoe: i have 2018-03-04T17:41:06Z phoe: Good. 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Here is a new version: http://metamodular.com/partial-inlining.pdf We hope you like it. 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I was missing --no-sysinit and --no-userinit from --xc-host. 2018-03-05T19:19:15Z stassats: why did you do -xc-host=sbcl then? 2018-03-05T19:19:22Z awolven: just based on surface observation, the ide enhancements to emacs in portacle look nice 2018-03-05T19:19:23Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T19:23:45Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-03-05T19:42:05Z Ven`` quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-05T19:48:59Z sindan joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T19:50:51Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T19:53:48Z sindan: If I use (&rest rest & key a b c) nothing outside of :a, :b, :c is accepted. I'd like to be able to read anything in rest, but collect the keywords too. Is this possible? 2018-03-05T19:54:05Z stassats: clhs &allow-other-keys 2018-03-05T19:54:05Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/03_da.htm 2018-03-05T19:54:12Z stassats: a question for #lisp 2018-03-05T19:55:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-05T19:55:41Z sindan: ok thanks. A bit difficult to know the right channel without knowing the answer tho 2018-03-05T19:56:28Z stassats: is it sbcl-specific? #sbcl. is it common lisp specific? #lisp 2018-03-05T19:57:39Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T19:59:28Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-05T19:59:30Z sindan: And how exactly would I know it is X-specific? different flavors are not equal, and I'm using SBCL, so it's logical to ask in here first, more than the other way around. 2018-03-05T19:59:59Z stassats: sbcl is not a flavor, it implements common lisp 2018-03-05T20:00:19Z sindan: here we come with the terminology 2018-03-05T20:02:23Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T20:05:53Z nyef: Does any modern CL implementation even support Flavors? I thought that it pretty much went out with the LispMs? 2018-03-05T20:07:05Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-05T20:08:17Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T20:12:42Z Ven`` quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-05T20:15:11Z Bike: sindan, sbcl is an implementation of lisp. most code you write is going to be standards conforming and not rely on sbcl specificity. 2018-03-05T20:16:01Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-03-05T20:17:13Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-03-05T20:20:02Z stassats: oh hell, (intersection (mod 4611686018427387901) class) => (and (mod 4611686018427387901) class) 2018-03-05T20:20:47Z stassats: is class not class, again? 2018-03-05T20:21:38Z stassats: (describe (sb-int:info :variable :type '*break-on-signals*)) => TYPES = (# # # #) 2018-03-05T20:21:43Z stassats: ugh, yes 2018-03-05T20:21:54Z sindan: Bike: thanks for the useful clarification, instead of just pointing out errors and exiting. 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the respective platform 2018-03-06T17:51:05Z stassats: so, sb-vm:word 2018-03-06T17:51:32Z stassats: is sc-locations a deftype not available at some time? 2018-03-06T17:52:05Z scymtym: i tried catching parse-unknown-type but didn't see anything 2018-03-06T17:53:16Z scymtym: and as i said, using e.g. N = 33 on when word size is 32 makes the problem disappear 2018-03-06T17:53:33Z scymtym: so the deftype probably works 2018-03-06T17:53:53Z stassats: that makes it non-raw, just as an undefined type would 2018-03-06T17:54:36Z scymtym: yes, but why is it a problem if it is raw? 2018-03-06T17:56:31Z nyef: I thought that the problem was that the rawness differed? 2018-03-06T17:56:46Z scymtym: yes, that's the complaint 2018-03-06T17:56:51Z m00natic` quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-06T17:57:49Z nyef: So, the rawness is recorded in the layout, and genesis has to compute the layouts during host-1 in order to find addresses of various things, or genesis has to compute the layouts 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scymtym: ok, it's one of the sc commits 2018-03-06T20:05:56Z fiveop: thx 2018-03-06T20:06:07Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-06T20:06:27Z stassats: fiveop: NIL would be a better return type for exit, no? 2018-03-06T20:06:46Z fiveop: does it really matter for exit? 2018-03-06T20:07:17Z fiveop: It should terminate the process immediately 2018-03-06T20:07:31Z stassats: which means it doesn't return 2018-03-06T20:07:37Z stassats: the NIL type 2018-03-06T20:08:37Z stassats: why zero rax and add to it instead of just moving 3c? 2018-03-06T20:09:12Z fiveop: because I write about 5 instruction of x86 assembler per year on average 2018-03-06T20:09:15Z fiveop: thanks :) 2018-03-06T20:09:34Z stassats: three of them redundant? 2018-03-06T20:09:53Z fiveop: apparently 2018-03-06T20:09:55Z fiveop: Now it compiles 2018-03-06T20:10:14Z fiveop: but instead of exiting the process, I get 100% cpu usage 2018-03-06T20:10:33Z fiveop: that smells like tail call optimized recursion instead of the vop 2018-03-06T20:10:46Z stassats: you didn't define the vop after the function, did you? 2018-03-06T20:11:34Z fiveop: I did 2018-03-06T20:11:52Z stassats: fiveop: i suggest you do (defknown syscall-exit () nil (always-translatable)) 2018-03-06T20:12:23Z stassats: fiveop: and probably before doing defknown as well? 2018-03-06T20:13:47Z stassats: it should be defknown (eval-when (:COMPILE-TOPLEVEL :LOAD-TOPLEVEL :EXECUTE) define-vop) defun 2018-03-06T20:14:00Z scymtym: stassats: i'm not surprised. any clues? 2018-03-06T20:14:03Z fiveop: In that order? 2018-03-06T20:14:08Z stassats: yes 2018-03-06T20:14:18Z stassats: and make that (eval-when (:compile-toplevel :load-toplevel :execute) defknown define-vop) 2018-03-06T20:14:37Z stassats: scymtym: the first commit works 2018-03-06T20:14:59Z attila_lendvai quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-06T20:16:05Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-06T20:16:14Z attila_lendvai: fiveop: can you please also paste the working version when you're done? 2018-03-06T20:16:44Z stassats: and define-instruction would need a printer 2018-03-06T20:17:21Z stassats: not sure it'll work without recompiling or jumping through some hoops 2018-03-06T20:17:38Z stassats: maybe syscall should just go into sbcl 2018-03-06T20:18:14Z stassats: fiveop: exit is pretty easy, it just exits, but next time you shouldn't just use rax-tn rdi-tn 2018-03-06T20:19:15Z stassats: and for vops that destroy all registers, (:save-p t) would be needed 2018-03-06T20:19:40Z fiveop: attila_lendvai: certainly 2018-03-06T20:20:44Z fiveop: I looked at the printer syntax in figured that's for disassemble, I'll look into that latter (though maybe I'm wrong) 2018-03-06T20:21:01Z fiveop: I restart sbcl after every change just to make sure 2018-03-06T20:21:19Z fiveop: stassats: what should I use instead of rax-tn and rdi-tn? that's the calling convention for syscall 2018-03-06T20:21:44Z stassats: it'd be pretty hard for you to figure out :printer, and incorporate without rebuilding 2018-03-06T20:21:53Z stassats: fiveop: :temporary with :offset 2018-03-06T20:21:55Z Bike_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-06T20:22:09Z stassats: and :args for when you will be taking arguments 2018-03-06T20:22:44Z stassats: scymtym: ok, it's the last commit 2018-03-06T20:22:50Z fiveop: Sounds reasonable, but let me stay as simple as possible for now :) 2018-03-06T20:23:17Z stassats: you can only be simple if you don't return 2018-03-06T20:23:28Z scymtym: stassats: thanks, trying to think hard 2018-03-06T20:23:39Z stassats: otherwise you need to declare which registers you are using 2018-03-06T20:23:47Z fiveop: stassats: and exit does not return :) 2018-03-06T20:23:54Z fiveop: well it should not 2018-03-06T20:24:02Z attila_lendvai quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-06T20:24:06Z fiveop: the current version as by your instructions fails in two different ways 2018-03-06T20:24:09Z stassats: i doubt you were doing this whole exercise just to exit, this is not vi 2018-03-06T20:24:17Z fiveop: no 2018-03-06T20:24:49Z fiveop: I want to to call unlink and rmdir in particular, but I still want to first get the most simple case right 2018-03-06T20:25:04Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-06T20:25:06Z fiveop: I updated the snippet with the two errors I get on the repl https://gitlab.com/snippets/1702448 2018-03-06T20:25:22Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-06T20:25:22Z attila_lendvai quit (Changing host) 2018-03-06T20:25:22Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-06T20:25:42Z fiveop: Without compiling the call call it complains about the return type, and with compiling the call I gat a sb-int:bug 2018-03-06T20:25:45Z stassats: there's no eval-when, and the order is not what i suggested 2018-03-06T20:26:01Z fiveop: sorry 2018-03-06T20:26:07Z fiveop: I forgot to copy the new snippet 2018-03-06T20:26:14Z fiveop: I just copied the error messages 2018-03-06T20:26:40Z fiveop: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1702448 2018-03-06T20:26:42Z scymtym: 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last form (the resursive defun syscall-exit) 2018-03-06T20:48:06Z fiveop: that is fixed by wrapping the define-instruction in a full eval-when 2018-03-06T20:52:46Z fiveop: the memory fault happend because I had the byte order of the instruction bytes wrong 2018-03-06T20:55:58Z fiveop: It works: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1702448 2018-03-06T20:56:27Z fiveop: pinging attila_lendvai 2018-03-06T20:56:56Z attila_lendvai: thanks fiveop! 2018-03-06T20:57:12Z fiveop: There is still a contiuable error if I compile-file the file 2018-03-06T20:57:36Z fiveop: (load (compile-file ...)) in fact, because the defknown is evaluated multiple times 2018-03-06T20:58:24Z stassats: fiveop: you can do overwrite-fndb-silently 2018-03-06T20:59:05Z attila_lendvai quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-06T21:00:05Z fiveop: thx 2018-03-06T21:01:22Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-06T21:01:22Z attila_lendvai quit (Changing host) 2018-03-06T21:01:22Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 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What we actually do is disassemble the error trampoline. I want to disassemble the macro 2018-03-07T16:00:50Z dougk_: (2) calling (DISASSEMBLE a-code-component) should be as if you called (sb-disassem:disassemble-code-component a-code-component) 2018-03-07T16:01:52Z dougk_: "consequences are undefined if ... a symbol that has a global definition as a macro" means we can reformat the hard drive, right ? 2018-03-07T16:08:37Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T16:09:36Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-07T16:09:52Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T16:25:01Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-07T16:31:36Z Xof joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T16:39:07Z sjl__ is now known as sjl 2018-03-07T16:45:41Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T16:51:24Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T16:56:23Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 2018-03-07T16:56:23Z corci: Project sbcl-master-windows » Windows_7_32bit build #2059: FIXED in 31 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master-windows/label=Windows_7_32bit/2059/ 2018-03-07T17:06:03Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T17:16:28Z Xach joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T17:18:49Z attila_lendvai quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2018-03-07T17:26:31Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-07T17:30:23Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T17:30:36Z Xach: Hi pals. I think I found a problem. https://gist.github.com/quicklisp/a3444353d61d761ea8cb420859582343 has a crashing file and some results. Latest from git crashes (and some earlier stuff too), but 1.4.0 does not crash. "Crash" as in signal an unhandled memory fault. 2018-03-07T17:34:27Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-07T17:39:26Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T17:41:51Z dougk_: hmm. nice repro. Thanks 2018-03-07T17:42:07Z dougk_: my memory fault is not at #x2, but whatever... 2018-03-07T17:42:56Z dougk_: nm. we match. the fault is @ 0, the foreign function is (allegedly) #x2. 2018-03-07T17:44:45Z Xach: The fault is in ourselves 2018-03-07T17:45:32Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T17:50:00Z m00natic quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-07T17:50:45Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-07T17:55:03Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T17:59:10Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-07T18:00:48Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T18:05:10Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-07T18:07:43Z Xach: Or in d9037941d42b65a1068c6c6464b60d2dd245dbee 2018-03-07T18:07:57Z Xach: (which is what bisecting suggests) 2018-03-07T18:08:36Z Xach: fyi, dougk_ or stassats or whomever else is interested. 2018-03-07T18:09:39Z stacksmith: Xach: thank you for correct grammar. 2018-03-07T18:11:50Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-07T18:18:57Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T18:20:16Z corci: Project sbcl-master-windows » Windows_7_32bit build #2063: FAILURE in 10 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master-windows/label=Windows_7_32bit/2063/ 2018-03-07T18:22:53Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T18:33:43Z pfdietz quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2018-03-07T18:34:49Z Xach: dougk_: should I make a report on launchpad? 2018-03-07T18:35:00Z Xach: I will do that. 2018-03-07T18:39:09Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T18:40:10Z pfdietz: Yes that looks relevant. 2018-03-07T18:43:34Z Xach: Ominously so? 2018-03-07T18:50:59Z pfdietz quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-07T18:51:43Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T18:56:23Z pfdietz quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-07T18:57:34Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T18:58:41Z pfdietz: Drama! 2018-03-07T19:07:15Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 2018-03-07T19:07:16Z corci: Project sbcl-master-windows » Windows_7_32bit build #2064: FIXED in 28 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master-windows/label=Windows_7_32bit/2064/ 2018-03-07T19:08:26Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-07T19:27:37Z pfdietz quit (Quit: Bye) 2018-03-07T19:52:40Z sjl__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T19:54:22Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-07T20:05:29Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-07T20:05:42Z libreman quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-07T20:08:58Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:09:58Z Jesin joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:10:32Z fiveop joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:11:23Z fiveop: Can someone give me a hint what I have to do for disassemble to properly disassemble my instruction? 2018-03-07T20:11:32Z fiveop: I thought defining :printer properly would do the trick 2018-03-07T20:11:36Z fiveop: but apparently that is not enough 2018-03-07T20:14:04Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-07T20:16:07Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:18:58Z libreman joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:20:59Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-03-07T20:28:15Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:35:58Z fiveop: Is it possible that this does not work because target-disassem throws away stuff that is needed by define-instruction? 2018-03-07T20:45:45Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:50:22Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:50:55Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-07T20:57:18Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T20:58:58Z stassats: fiveop: you need to rebuild sbcl with that instruction defined 2018-03-07T20:59:55Z stassats: or at least do (sb-disassem:get-inst-space :force t) 2018-03-07T21:01:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-07T21:02:04Z fiveop: I'm currently trying the former 2018-03-07T21:04:32Z fiveop: and it works ;) 2018-03-07T21:04:46Z fiveop: ; AC: 0F05 SYSCALL 2018-03-07T21:08:27Z fiveop: would you be willing to take this patch into mainline? https://gitlab.com/snippets/1702643 2018-03-07T21:10:18Z jdz quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-07T21:11:58Z stassats: fiveop: yes, except for (:printer two-bytes ((op '(#x0f #x05)))) 2018-03-07T21:14:16Z fiveop: certainly 2018-03-07T21:15:07Z jdz joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T21:16:21Z fiveop: Is there a reason why most byte values are written in binary form instead of hex? 2018-03-07T21:16:37Z fiveop: Don't answer that 2018-03-07T21:17:11Z stassats: you mean why not in octal? 2018-03-07T21:17:24Z fiveop: No 2018-03-07T21:17:36Z fiveop: I encountered binary and hex so far 2018-03-07T21:19:17Z Jesin quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-03-07T21:19:31Z stassats: x86 is octal 2018-03-07T21:22:06Z fiveop: I've only looked at x86-64 code 2018-03-07T21:22:24Z stassats: x86-64 is x86 2018-03-07T21:23:03Z stassats: just grep insts.lisp for (byte 4 2018-03-07T21:23:34Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T21:25:22Z fiveop: There are no octal literals in the whole file 2018-03-07T21:25:42Z stassats: that's what i said? 2018-03-07T21:25:57Z stassats: http://www.dabo.de/ccc99/www.camp.ccc.de/radio/help.txt 2018-03-07T21:26:45Z stassats: and i pushed inst syscall 2018-03-07T21:27:35Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-07T21:30:11Z fiveop: thx 2018-03-07T21:30:42Z fiveop: I have a rough idea of what you are talking about. I have no idea yet, how that relates to my question. 2018-03-07T21:30:45Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T21:30:59Z fiveop: not no idea 2018-03-07T21:31:05Z Xach left #sbcl 2018-03-07T21:31:37Z fiveop: so are you saying that most values are writtin in binary (#b...) because you can than easily read the three octal digits (#baabbbccc)? 2018-03-07T21:32:04Z stassats: i said "you mean why not in octal?" 2018-03-07T21:33:12Z fiveop: Yes. And I answered "No" 2018-03-07T21:33:20Z fiveop: because I did not know of that 2018-03-07T21:33:31Z fiveop: whatever, thx for pointing out that text 2018-03-07T21:33:50Z fiveop: I still find it odd that there is a mix of hex and binary literals in that file 2018-03-07T21:33:59Z fiveop: good night 2018-03-07T21:34:02Z fiveop quit 2018-03-07T21:35:05Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-07T21:43:11Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T21:47:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-07T22:03:37Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 2018-03-07T22:03:37Z corci: Project sbcl-master » fasteval,MAC_OS_mavericks_64bit build #3096: FIXED in 40 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=fasteval,label=MAC_OS_mavericks_64bit/3096/ 2018-03-07T22:11:51Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T22:17:29Z rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-07T22:28:23Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2018-03-07T22:43:49Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-07T22:46:57Z milanj 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well 2018-03-08T16:05:54Z aeth quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-08T16:10:13Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-08T16:11:59Z scymtym_: are function types widened for type checking on entry? fndb has (real 0) as the type of the first parameter for SLEEP, but (sleep ) still enters the function while (typep '(real 0)) signals an error 2018-03-08T16:12:34Z stassats: sleep has explicit-check 2018-03-08T16:12:49Z aeth joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T16:13:06Z scymtym_: right, i forgot about that 2018-03-08T16:13:33Z stassats: (typep '(real 0)) shouldn't signal 2018-03-08T16:14:14Z scymtym_: as in i did something wrong or as in i needs fixing? 2018-03-08T16:14:24Z stassats: the latter 2018-03-08T16:14:43Z scymtym_: ok 2018-03-08T16:14:51Z stassats: well, "needs" 2018-03-08T16:15:11Z stassats: i don't need it fixed, i'd happily ignore it 2018-03-08T16:15:26Z stassats: who passes nans around anyway 2018-03-08T16:17:42Z scymtym_: so, for SLEEP, do we consider its type to be (sfunction (and (real 0) (not (satisfies float-infinity-p)) (not (satisfies float-nan-p))) null) and adjust everything accordingly? 2018-03-08T16:26:29Z stassats: scymtym_: i'd rather not touch sleep-the-function at all 2018-03-08T16:27:07Z stassats: it's signalling errors, good or bad, but that's what you get for using nans or infinities 2018-03-08T16:28:03Z stassats: nans and infinities are not specified by the standard 2018-03-08T16:28:19Z scymtym_: ok, i will just change the transform then 2018-03-08T16:28:39Z scymtym_ should be tracking down the register allocation problem anyway 2018-03-08T16:29:23Z stassats: scymtym_: does it touch registers only? 2018-03-08T16:29:39Z stassats: could you be touching return-address save location? 2018-03-08T16:29:57Z stassats: and why ppc 2018-03-08T16:30:37Z stassats: or reg-lra is corrupted 2018-03-08T16:30:54Z scymtym_: i'm not completely sure for which SCs pack-iterative will be call 2018-03-08T16:31:04Z scymtym_: but it should leave wired TNs alone 2018-03-08T16:31:50Z scymtym_: i'm halfway through a hack that runs the changed code alongside the previous version and compares the results. i hope that will reveal the problem 2018-03-08T16:36:36Z stassats: and i have constraint propagation looping forever 2018-03-08T16:36:57Z stassats: except that the test case no longer works, i guess i have to bisect, since i have no clue so far 2018-03-08T16:41:13Z stassats: somewhere between 1.4.3 and 1.4.4 2018-03-08T16:41:23Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T16:45:32Z stassats: the test case has deeply nested loops, and constraint propagation issues different constraint when taking different paths 2018-03-08T16:45:35Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-08T16:45:58Z stassats: and only when reusing constraint information after inserting typechecking code 2018-03-08T16:46:10Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T16:47:30Z stassats: it could help printing IR1 on dead trees and gluing the sheets together 2018-03-08T16:47:55Z stassats: but we'll lose our green creds 2018-03-08T16:48:09Z thodg quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-03-08T16:48:22Z karswell quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-08T16:49:06Z karswell joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T16:50:33Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-08T16:55:34Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:00:59Z pfdietz: Confirm I have no position on what sleep should do at runtime on infinities or nan. 2018-03-08T17:01:50Z pfdietz: Going to do tests on other operators with such values though. 2018-03-08T17:02:07Z stassats: we can have a position, but then it's non standard and we don't want anyone depending on it 2018-03-08T17:02:11Z slyrus joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:02:53Z slyrus quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-08T17:03:40Z slyrus joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:05:00Z pfdietz__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:05:12Z pfdietz quit (Quit: Bye) 2018-03-08T17:07:35Z scymtym_: i guess extending the explicit check to produce a less internal-looking error at runtime would be ok 2018-03-08T17:08:17Z stassats: catching nans manually costs performance 2018-03-08T17:09:54Z scymtym_: not much if it replaces the REALP check with cases for INTEGER and {SINGLE,DOUBLE}-FLOAT 2018-03-08T17:10:30Z Aaryn quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-08T17:10:46Z Aaryn joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:11:08Z scymtym_: maybe even help avoiding the unspecialized MINUSP 2018-03-08T17:11:38Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:12:15Z stassats: i'm for simplicity, if the user is supplying nans and what not, he knows what's going on 2018-03-08T17:24:17Z stassats: found the commit that deactivates the previous constraint fix (that breaks another test case) 2018-03-08T17:24:37Z stassats: it looks like it may be enough and i'm just going to revert it and wait if anything fails 2018-03-08T17:25:56Z stassats: lp 1540123 2018-03-08T17:25:56Z specbot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1540123 2018-03-08T17:26:56Z stassats: i forgot what was the mathematical software that triggered this 2018-03-08T17:28:09Z stassats: like maxima but something else 2018-03-08T17:30:16Z stassats: fricas 2018-03-08T17:38:34Z pfdietz__: Late 2015, in sbcl-help 2018-03-08T17:43:01Z stassats: if i can build fricas with the old fix reverted, i'm just doing that, cause debugging constraint.lisp is not really easy 2018-03-08T17:47:04Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T17:48:35Z stassats: crap, it looks like it still hangs 2018-03-08T17:48:58Z stassats: i could extract a new test case, but the sources in fricas are so convoluted 2018-03-08T17:49:26Z stassats: and C-c is ignored 2018-03-08T17:50:53Z stassats: constraints.lisp is giving me hell 2018-03-08T17:51:27Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2018-03-08T17:55:50Z m00natic quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-08T18:07:42Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T18:10:12Z pfdietz__: This sounds like something I should focus testing on. I have a prototype that generates tagbodies with control flow from a random directed graph. 2018-03-08T18:10:52Z stassats: oh no 2018-03-08T18:11:02Z stassats: i don't want anymore constraint.lisp bugs! 2018-03-08T18:11:09Z pfdietz__: It hasn't found anything yet, but I can work on it more. 2018-03-08T18:11:19Z stassats: can you find easy constraint bugs? 2018-03-08T18:11:46Z pfdietz__: What I should do is package it up so YOU can run it, when you're making changes. 2018-03-08T18:12:28Z stassats: it could be as part of CI 2018-03-08T18:12:49Z stassats: our existing CI or some other 2018-03-08T18:14:58Z pfdietz__: Anyway, this would not be before next week. 2018-03-08T18:17:11Z stassats: fricas being convoluted doesn't help 2018-03-08T18:17:19Z stassats: i still can't extract the actual piece of code 2018-03-08T18:20:21Z stassats: some hackery later, success 2018-03-08T18:36:53Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-08T18:38:51Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T18:39:32Z scymtym_: stassats: can you try https://github.com/scymtym/sbcl/tree/pack-debugging on ppc? 2018-03-08T18:50:33Z stassats: scymtym_: sure 2018-03-08T18:50:49Z stassats: does it not work on crossbuild-runner? 2018-03-08T19:00:32Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T19:02:08Z stassats: scymtym_: it's now onto building contribs 2018-03-08T19:02:31Z stassats: so, what should i be looking for? 2018-03-08T19:05:57Z scymtym_: stassats: i forgot to try crossbuild-runner. 1) does it build? 2) does output "mismatch" followed by a bunch of stuff during cross-compilation? 2018-03-08T19:06:37Z stassats: well, i wasn't catching the output, thought it would stop 2018-03-08T19:06:54Z stassats: and it does survive cold init 2018-03-08T19:07:19Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-08T19:10:05Z scymtym_: i fixed a few differences that i thought were inconsequential. apparently not 2018-03-08T19:10:25Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-08T19:10:33Z stassats: i'm redoing host-2 2018-03-08T19:11:05Z scymtym_: can't hurt, but i don't expect any mismatches 2018-03-08T19:11:38Z scymtym_: i'm trying to make a version that only fixes the problem 2018-03-08T19:13:35Z scymtym_: if my suspicion is correct, i will need something like INTEGER-LENGTH but for the least significant non-zero bit. does that exist? 2018-03-08T19:15:06Z pkhuong: scymtym_: (logxor x (1- x)). 2018-03-08T19:18:04Z stassats: somehow splicing some new blocks into highly nested IR makes constraint unable to cope with, but, if the block-out of each block is cleared it's fine 2018-03-08T19:18:18Z scymtym_: pkhuong: thanks 2018-03-08T19:18:25Z stassats: some old constraints prevent it from finishing 2018-03-08T19:18:43Z stassats: and i have another piece of code, it can't finish if block-out is cleared 2018-03-08T19:20:54Z stassats: but why would old constraints matter, it recomputes them, doesn't it? 2018-03-08T19:20:57Z pkhuong: new blocks are only spliced in once constraint is done, and constraint propagation should reset its consets when it's re-run... 2018-03-08T19:21:45Z stassats: pkhuong: yeah, i haven't tried thoroughly cleaning up constraints, but clearing them from lambda-vars doesn't seem to help 2018-03-08T19:22:40Z pkhuong: yeah, that likely doesn't do anything. 2018-03-08T19:23:28Z pkhuong: we expect consets to grow monotonically for each program point 2018-03-08T19:23:38Z stassats: maybe if-..-constraints 2018-03-08T19:23:41Z pkhuong: so once something is there (from a previous run), it never goes away. 2018-03-08T19:23:42Z stassats: need to be clared 2018-03-08T19:24:33Z pkhuong: stassats: do you mean just cleaning up the universe of constraints? 2018-03-08T19:24:48Z stassats: well, that works 2018-03-08T19:25:31Z stassats: pkhuong: yes, my old fix just clears block-out, and now for another piece of code, doing (when (if-p last) (setf (if-alternative-constraints last) nil) (setf (if-consequent-constraints last) nil)) helps 2018-03-08T19:26:08Z pkhuong: we should always clear everything unless there's a good reason not to (compilation speed?) 2018-03-08T19:26:25Z stassats: but it recomputes everything, i _think_ 2018-03-08T19:26:40Z stassats: well, evidently, not everything 2018-03-08T19:29:03Z stassats: anyway, that'll be my solution 2018-03-08T19:37:08Z stassats: ;; Update every block once to account for changes in the IR1. 2018-03-08T19:37:49Z stassats: which was not enough, clearly 2018-03-08T19:39:12Z stassats: but it does use some information from block-out from previous passes 2018-03-08T19:47:17Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T19:47:54Z scymtym_: stassats: can you try https://github.com/scymtym/sbcl/tree/pack-debugging again? it should behave like a normal SBCL build (no special output or anything), but hopefully work on PPC 2018-03-08T19:48:22Z stassats: revert the previous pull? 2018-03-08T19:49:00Z stassats: well, it pulls cleanly 2018-03-08T19:51:36Z scymtym_: yes, i just added more commits to not lose intermediate state 2018-03-08T19:52:43Z scymtym_: but the diff master..pack-debugging is close to what i would commit as a fix (if it works) 2018-03-08T19:54:32Z stassats: target-2 chugging along 2018-03-08T19:54:33Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T19:55:41Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T19:56:15Z stassats: scymtym_: running tests 2018-03-08T19:58:26Z stassats: and i'm happy to have constraint.lisp finally fixed 2018-03-08T19:58:38Z scymtym_: great. and thanks to pkhuong's trick, doing the right thing isn't even that expensive 2018-03-08T19:59:43Z stassats: talking to pkhuong helped me steer towards a fix too, some productive drive by contribution 2018-03-08T20:04:17Z scymtym_: stassats: did the tests succeed? i'm ready to push 2018-03-08T20:04:34Z stassats: scymtym_: power7 is not that fast 2018-03-08T20:05:28Z angavrilov quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-08T20:10:58Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-08T20:11:24Z scymtym_: stassats: there is a typo in the test name. and is it intentional that the function is not called? 2018-03-08T20:12:37Z scymtym_: great progress, though 2018-03-08T20:12:45Z stassats: scymtym_: ok, no new failures 2018-03-08T20:12:54Z stassats: scymtym_: yes, it never finishes 2018-03-08T20:13:44Z scymtym_: but it should still compile with multiple policies? 2018-03-08T20:13:59Z scymtym_: stassats: ok, pushing. thank you for testing 2018-03-08T20:14:04Z stassats: doesn't hurt 2018-03-08T20:15:25Z scymtym_: i should probably disentangle and extract some of the things CHECKED-COMPILE-AND-ASSERT does 2018-03-08T20:16:02Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-08T20:16:11Z scymtym_: for example, it is annoying that you can't provide your own body instead of the call-and-assert clause syntax 2018-03-08T20:17:58Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I want *macro-policy* to be able to inject our extended optimize qualities regardless of whether the resulting function is for host or target. Host should just ignore. Same problem as named-lambda basically 2018-03-09T15:59:31Z stassats: i'm ending up augmenting *macro-policy* with (eval-store-source-form 3) 2018-03-09T15:59:59Z stassats: instead of naming (macrolet macro) and checking for it when saving the source 2018-03-09T16:00:13Z stassats: thought (macrolet name) would be useful for debugging, but the compiler is having none of it 2018-03-09T16:01:08Z stassats: dougk_: did you catch my message about "" in component names? it's from (named-lambda "") coming from (format stream "") 2018-03-09T16:01:31Z stassats: sbcl-commits being down is annoying 2018-03-09T16:01:31Z dougk_: i did. wasn't important enough to worry about why, just needed not to choke on it 2018-03-09T16:01:52Z stassats: why would anybody do (format stream "")? 2018-03-09T16:03:13Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-09T16:04:49Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:05:02Z stassats: hell Ignoring unknown optimization quality SB!C::EVAL-STORE-SOURCE-FORM 2018-03-09T16:05:29Z dougk_: that leaked into code for the host 2018-03-09T16:05:38Z dougk_: let me fix all that, or send me a WIP change 2018-03-09T16:05:47Z stassats: right, i'm just annoyed i can't get it right for the fifteenth time 2018-03-09T16:06:02Z dougk_: believe me i've gone down this road 2018-03-09T16:07:34Z stassats: i'm just going to -sb-xc-host it 2018-03-09T16:08:03Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:11:13Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-09T16:15:26Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:19:47Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-09T16:19:59Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:21:48Z Jesin joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:28:56Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-09T16:30:05Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-09T16:36:31Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:39:17Z surya joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:41:10Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-09T16:42:37Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-09T16:46:22Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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https://github.com/scymtym/text.source-location/tree/future has something useful 2018-03-11T12:04:03Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T12:08:54Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-11T12:09:15Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T12:10:31Z stassats: scymtym: i can't make things work while calling reader macros 2018-03-11T12:10:42Z stassats: without reader macros, everything works neatly 2018-03-11T12:11:27Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T12:16:10Z surya quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-11T12:16:26Z stassats: i could instrument each standard reader macro, and that wouldn't be much of a problem, but i'd also prefer it to work on non-standard macros 2018-03-11T12:16:50Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-11T12:20:59Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T12:22:40Z stassats: i could change the path format that sbcl uses, but then it wouldn't work on older slimes and it would be hard to use on s-exp forms, not text 2018-03-11T12:22:53Z scymtym: stassats: reader macros in general or reader macros performing recursive calls to READ? 2018-03-11T12:23:51Z stassats: scymtym: in general, i'm wrapping each form returned by READ in a structure, so things like #+, which examine what read returns, do not work 2018-03-11T12:24:11Z stassats: if it calls read and just returns the form, like #\(, then it's fine 2018-03-11T12:25:18Z scymtym: right 2018-03-11T12:26:10Z stassats: i could build a parallel structure, just by recording the bounds and then establishing nesting, etc. 2018-03-11T12:26:29Z stassats: but then it would highlight "#+abc x", and i want just X 2018-03-11T12:26:55Z stassats: and if it returns nothing, in #-abc x, then i don't know how to discard it 2018-03-11T12:27:04Z scymtym: that sounds similar to what eclector does: https://github.com/robert-strandh/Eclector/blob/master/code/concrete-syntax-tree/read-cst.lisp 2018-03-11T12:28:26Z surya joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T12:28:26Z stassats: i guess #-abc returns zero values, so i 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Thanks for making this awesome lisp compiler! 2018-03-11T18:03:26Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T18:03:29Z wtjones: sbcl is great 2018-03-11T18:05:40Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-11T18:08:14Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-11T18:13:16Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T18:24:57Z surya quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-11T18:29:31Z corci: Project sbcl-master » without-threads,ubuntu_trusty_64bit build #3120: FAILURE in 6 min 1 sec: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=without-threads,label=ubuntu_trusty_64bit/3120/ 2018-03-11T18:37:25Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T18:46:46Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T18:51:45Z stassats quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-11T18:52:04Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T19:07:59Z oleo: http://dpaste.com/3V3A9A6 2018-03-11T19:17:09Z stassats quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-11T19:17:29Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T19:34:27Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-11T19:38:35Z fiveop joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T19:43:55Z fiveop: I was looking into implementing a few syscalls with the instruction that stas kindly added. Passing integer arguments is easy enough. Passing in pointers to strings seems to be another matter. I looked into what is done in the alien function related code 2018-03-11T19:44:37Z fiveop: My impressions is, that a lot of the stuff (around deport etc.) might be necessary as well for syscalls, though I did not fully understand that yet. 2018-03-11T19:44:38Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T19:44:56Z fiveop: My question is. Am I at least looking in the right place? 2018-03-11T19:46:29Z stassats: just use with-alien 2018-03-11T19:46:39Z fiveop: stassats: thanks for your comment on the syscall snippet. I have a follow up question. If I declare the arg types as you suggested and check in the lisp code that I do not pass anything in but (unsigned-byte 64), will the compiler handle for me dealing with values larger than most-positive-fixnum 2018-03-11T19:46:41Z stassats: also, i left a comment on your paste 2018-03-11T19:46:47Z stassats: right, that was it 2018-03-11T19:47:26Z stassats: fiveop: where do fixnums come from? 2018-03-11T19:47:35Z stassats: unsigned-num doesn't deal with fixnums 2018-03-11T19:47:44Z fiveop: right 2018-03-11T19:49:33Z fiveop: Suppose I write (syscall1-no-return (1+ most-positive-fixnum) 0), won't the first argument be a bignum (assuming it cannot be optimized away, because it's not a constant but a input derived value)? 2018-03-11T19:49:41Z fiveop: how does that bignum get into my unsigned register? 2018-03-11T19:49:59Z awolven joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T19:50:40Z stassats: moved by mov instructions 2018-03-11T19:51:07Z fiveop: so it's the compiler's problem? 2018-03-11T19:54:26Z awolven quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-11T20:01:41Z fiveop: I'll just try it 2018-03-11T20:04:36Z karlosz_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T20:05:25Z fiveop: (syscall1-no-return 231 (1+ most-positive-fixnum)) yields a 0 exit code (as it should), in particular, it does not crash! :) 2018-03-11T20:05:50Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-11T20:05:57Z stassats: just examine the code 2018-03-11T20:11:38Z fiveop: is it possible that the two instructions share the same label (e.g. L8 and L9) in the disassemble output, but only one is shown? 2018-03-11T20:12:21Z stassats: i don't understand 2018-03-11T20:13:07Z fiveop: I have a "JS L8" somewhere, without an L8 in the output 2018-03-11T20:13:17Z fiveop: there is an error trap with an L9 label 2018-03-11T20:13:35Z fiveop: it would make sense for the JS L8 to jump to an error trap as well 2018-03-11T20:14:06Z fiveop: so I thought, that maybe the error trap has two labels (L8 and L9) but only one is shown 2018-03-11T20:18:42Z stassats: what's the code? 2018-03-11T20:25:44Z stassats: your syscall function is not disassembled correctly, is it? 2018-03-11T20:25:49Z stassats: instruction 2018-03-11T20:32:59Z fiveop: you are correct 2018-03-11T20:35:11Z karlosz_ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2018-03-11T20:36:17Z dougk___ joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T20:39:05Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-11T20:47:10Z karlosz_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-11T20:47:41Z fiveop: I want to say that a temporary is valid after the syscall instruction was executed. 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might be quicker to get French citizenship for my children than get all of sourceforge working again 2018-03-12T16:55:51Z stassats: git push does say that it's sending an email 2018-03-12T16:55:58Z stassats: but to /dev/null or the vicinity 2018-03-12T16:56:18Z Xof: "Shell creations are currently disabled. Please try again at a later time." 2018-03-12T16:58:45Z scymtym: maybe we had the git config variables described in the header comment of the script in the old GIT repository and they got lost in the migration. but as Xof says, no way to know without shell access 2018-03-12T16:59:24Z stassats: can modify that hook to print something 2018-03-12T17:00:03Z stassats: if it works on non-master branches 2018-03-12T17:00:35Z scymtym: i think you have to copy it into the repository for changes to go into effect. that's what the README seems to say 2018-03-12T17:00:50Z stassats: does scp work? 2018-03-12T17:01:51Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-12T17:02:09Z scymtym: i don't know. i only tried sftp and rsync (for shell.sourceforge.net, that is) 2018-03-12T17:04:46Z stassats: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/search/?q=shell 2018-03-12T17:07:50Z karswell_ quit (Read error: No route to host) 2018-03-12T17:12:25Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-12T17:14:20Z 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worry about users piling all the code into DEFMACRO forms to get better source tracking 2018-03-12T19:02:01Z stassats: we would need to study which macros actually pose problems 2018-03-12T19:02:20Z stassats: which means i need to finish my current level of support and just it and note where it falls short 2018-03-12T19:03:14Z stassats: and fix loop, it's really painful 2018-03-12T19:04:20Z scymtym: i suspect, the unwrap-and-reconstruct approach with the single-occurrence heuristic for atoms will work fairly well in practice 2018-03-12T19:04:42Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 2018-03-12T19:04:42Z corci: Project sbcl-master » without-unicode,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3124: FIXED in 21 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=without-unicode,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3124/ 2018-03-12T19:04:58Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 2018-03-12T19:04:59Z corci: Project sbcl-master » default,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3124: FIXED in 21 min: 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I then C-c some code that triggers a class redefinition. This in turn calls some (using my extensions) functions that grab a lock, which the main loop is then urged to release. This works a couple of times, but it seems if the timing is unfortunate enough then a deadlock happens. 2018-03-16T17:33:58Z Shinmera: My setup is, unfortunately, quite large, but it is consistently reproducible. 2018-03-16T17:34:39Z Shinmera: Since I use CLOS all over I'm guessing something else triggers the compiler and the deadlock happens. 2018-03-16T17:35:12Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T17:35:47Z pkhuong: Shinmera: seems safer to add a check for whether the user wants a quiescent state at the top of the game loop. 2018-03-16T17:38:22Z Shinmera: pkhuong: The way the lock stuff works right now is that there's a simple flag for whether someone else wants to acquire the main loop's context. The loop just checks for that repeatedly. If it is true, it releases its context, waits for the thing wanting it to acquire it, then tries to grab the lock to reacquire the context. The other thread should then do whatever until it releases the context, at which point 2018-03-16T17:38:24Z Shinmera: the game thread can succeed grabbing the lock and continue. 2018-03-16T17:38:57Z pkhuong: Shinmera: you want to quiesce at a 2018-03-16T17:39:01Z pkhuong: much higher level 2018-03-16T17:39:05Z pkhuong: before you even C-c C-c 2018-03-16T17:39:38Z Shinmera: I don't think I understand what you mean 2018-03-16T17:40:32Z pkhuong: you want to signal the game loop to release everything and just wait for an OK to resume processing, C-c, let that complete, and then signal the game loop to go on. 2018-03-16T17:41:01Z Shinmera: I see. That would ruin a lot of the interactivity though. 2018-03-16T17:41:22Z pkhuong: you can probably wrap that in some elisp 2018-03-16T17:45:32Z Shinmera: Another way would be to synchronise the class redefinition hooks with the game loop. 2018-03-16T17:45:46Z Shinmera: As in, make them execute on the game loop. 2018-03-16T17:46:32Z pkhuong: you don't know that SBCL doesn't already hold some locks by the time you get there 2018-03-16T17:47:18Z Shinmera: Yes, but this would eliminate the need to lock on my side. 2018-03-16T17:49:15Z pkhuong: the reason you want to make the game loop release everything before doing any processing is that you don't want a deadlock where the redefinition thread already holds some mutex while it waits for the game loop to quiesce. 2018-03-16T17:51:17Z Shinmera: Because I can't bet on the fact that the game loop won't cause SBCL to try and grab some other lock, right? 2018-03-16T17:52:56Z pkhuong: right. the game loop still has work to do before it gets back to the "time to sleep" check. 2018-03-16T17:53:37Z Shinmera: I guess so far I've just gotten very lucky, then :) 2018-03-16T17:53:45Z Jesin quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-03-16T17:57:18Z __rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-16T18:01:26Z attila_lendvai quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2018-03-16T18:03:11Z m00natic quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-16T18:20:05Z khrbt joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T18:37:09Z shka quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-16T18:37:34Z shka joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T18:41:46Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T18:42:37Z corci: Project sbcl-master » without-threads,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 9 min 10 sec: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=without-threads,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T18:42:49Z corci: Project sbcl-master » without-unicode,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 9 min 21 sec: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=without-unicode,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T18:43:12Z corci: Project sbcl-master » default,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 9 min 45 sec: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=default,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T18:44:28Z shka quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-16T18:44:31Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T18:45:50Z shka joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T18:49:09Z smurfrobot quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-16T18:51:00Z __rumbler31 quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-16T18:54:31Z corci: Project sbcl-master » safepoints,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 21 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=safepoints,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T18:54:55Z corci: Project sbcl-master » fancy,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 21 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=fancy,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T18:56:28Z corci: Project sbcl-master » fasteval,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 23 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=fasteval,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T19:05:08Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-16T19:06:16Z scymtym: dougk__: packed-varints.pure.lisp exits the (pure) test runner instead of just the file 2018-03-16T19:06:27Z corci: Project sbcl-master-windows » Windows_7_64bit build #2148: FAILURE in 36 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master-windows/label=Windows_7_64bit/2148/ 2018-03-16T19:06:55Z corci: Project sbcl-master » ccl,ubuntu_trusty_32bit build #3147: FAILURE in 33 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master/featureset=ccl,label=ubuntu_trusty_32bit/3147/ 2018-03-16T19:13:29Z dougk__: scymtym: whoops. 2018-03-16T19:22:34Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-16T19:42:00Z corci: Yippee, build fixed! 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I have been getting this error in my backtrace: 0: (SB-VM::TAIL-CALL-SYMBOL 19 19 0) and that the function "some-package-name::get-cell-p0" is not defined. The latter function is a macro that takes 3 arguments 2018-03-17T22:26:18Z jeosol: The get-cell-p0 is a function, but it is generated automatically by a macro when I start the application. 2018-03-17T22:26:46Z jeosol: Need some help regarding the (sb-vm::tail-call-symbol ....) error 2018-03-17T22:48:19Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-17T22:50:41Z dougk_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-17T22:51:03Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-17T22:54:26Z stassats: jeosol: try sbcl from git 2018-03-17T22:55:11Z dougk_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-17T22:55:31Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-17T23:09:17Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-17T23:24:10Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-17T23:25:21Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-03-17T23:33:16Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-03-17T23:37:27Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-17T23:39:27Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-17T23:40:00Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-03-17T23:44:34Z karlosz 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h () (loop (apply #'f (loop :repeat 200000 :collect (make-string 10))))). when compiled with (debug 3) (speed 1) (safety 3), a call to H fails after a while 2018-03-20T09:27:18Z scymtym: i couldn't make it fail with other policies 2018-03-20T09:32:17Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T09:36:35Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-20T09:40:20Z |3b|: fails at default policy here (1.4.5.96 64bit win) 2018-03-20T10:32:34Z smokeink quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-20T10:54:08Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T11:02:09Z corci quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2018-03-20T11:03:21Z corci joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T11:10:40Z m00natic joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T11:14:47Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T11:32:40Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-20T11:49:58Z Xof: scymtym: what an excellent time to think about freezing development :-( 2018-03-20T11:52:53Z Xof: how long does it take to break? 2018-03-20T12:05:55Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T12:10:11Z |3b|: 10-20sec here 2018-03-20T12:10:37Z |3b|: maybe only a few sec 2018-03-20T12:11:32Z |3b| builds with 16GB heap, if that matters 2018-03-20T12:15:11Z |3b|: hmm, seems to be consistently after 5 GCs first try, then 17 after that (as measured by printing from *after-gc-hooks*) 2018-03-20T12:19:25Z |3b|: 25 then 21 with default policy 2018-03-20T12:20:05Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T12:21:11Z |3b|: also fails on 1.3.21.196 x8664 linux 2018-03-20T12:23:04Z Xof: huh, that's interesting, because it didn't fail for me with 1.4.4.xx 2018-03-20T12:25:02Z |3b|: the 1.3.x has 8GB heap, both were built with --fancy 2018-03-20T12:27:49Z |3b|: and heap size seems to matter, running with --dynamic-space-size 2048 it isn't failing on 1.3.x 2018-03-20T12:29:57Z |3b|: i think person on #lisp was using --dynamic-space-size 4096 and --control-stack-size 32 2018-03-20T12:30:05Z |3b|: (assuming i'm looking at right conversation) 2018-03-20T12:41:55Z scymtym: Xof: usually a few seconds, but it doesn't seem completely reliable 2018-03-20T12:43:21Z |3b|: seems to start a bit past 2GB heap, failed at 2070 2018-03-20T12:43:40Z |3b|: seems pretty consistent here with large heaps 2018-03-20T12:47:14Z scymtym: right, the heap size seems to be important. sbcl --dynamic-space-size 4Gb --noinform --no-userinit --eval '(compile-file "THEFILE.lisp")' --eval '(load "THEFILE.fasl")' --eval '(h)' makes it fail with 1.4.5.debian for me 2018-03-20T12:49:06Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2018-03-20T12:51:09Z scymtym: just supplying --dynamic-space-size, irregardless of the value, seems to make it fail in that case 2018-03-20T12:52:09Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T12:53:24Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-20T12:53:48Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T12:56:17Z |3b|: fails on 1.2.8.74 with dynamic-space-size 4gb 2018-03-20T12:58:17Z |3b|: not failing so far on 1.0.58.55 with 4gb 2018-03-20T13:07:36Z |3b|: seems to GC a lot faster on 1.0.58 too when i print out 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stassats: ok, that's not it, then it's because of bad stack roots 2018-03-20T14:30:03Z stassats: probably bad pinning, since the strings are still there 2018-03-20T14:39:19Z |3b| tries to bisect, repeatedly fails to find any versions in that range that will build :/ 2018-03-20T14:44:38Z stassats: listify-rest-args is probably doing something bogus 2018-03-20T14:45:07Z |3b|: 1.2.0 built and fails 2018-03-20T14:45:21Z stassats: is it a large object thing? 2018-03-20T14:47:04Z stassats: right 2018-03-20T14:48:22Z stassats: a list of length 8192 fails, 8191 doesn't 2018-03-20T14:48:31Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T14:48:57Z stassats: (/ SB-VM:LARGE-OBJECT-SIZE (sb-introspect::object-size '(0))) => 8192 2018-03-20T14:49:10Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T14:49:42Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-20T14:50:16Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T14:50:41Z stassats: that's an all backend wide problem from time immemorial 2018-03-20T14:51:09Z stassats: and you are taught at school not to apply long lists 2018-03-20T14:54:39Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-20T14:54:41Z dougk__: yup. i think i even added a comment about that - we put conses on large pages 2018-03-20T14:54:54Z smurfrobot joined #sbcl 2018-03-20T14:55:00Z |3b|: 1.1.14 seems OK 2018-03-20T14:55:09Z stassats: could trap into an assembly routine 2018-03-20T14:55:19Z stassats: but it all will have to be done manually for each backend 2018-03-20T14:55:26Z stassats: |3b|: you can stop 2018-03-20T14:55:34Z |3b|: ok, was just about to ask that :) 2018-03-20T14:57:20Z dougk__: I am fairly certain that a correct fix can be done for x86 in preseve_pointer. if we see a pinned cons on a large page, find the actual first and last page of the large object region, and flip them to non-large. 2018-03-20T14:57:41Z smurfrobot quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-20T14:57:55Z dougk__: evacuating conses "just works" because the copier never cares whether the 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(on x86_64 in particular), and if so is there some way to set them back to whatever C would expect during a FFI call? 2018-03-21T13:02:41Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T13:44:26Z agspathis joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T14:01:09Z flip214: Are SBCL FASLs different between OSes? 2018-03-21T14:01:43Z flip214: Ie. if I use, say, 1.4.4 on Debian and on CentOS, will the FASLs be different, or can they be shared (eg NFS mount)? 2018-03-21T14:02:46Z flip214: I guess a difference could be absolute paths of libraries.... but OTOH most will just load "libssl.so.10" etc., and LD will do the rest... 2018-03-21T14:05:14Z sjl__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T14:09:06Z smokeink quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-21T14:43:47Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T15:08:44Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-21T15:09:14Z sjl__ is now known as sjl 2018-03-21T15:11:07Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T15:25:51Z agspathis quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-21T15:39:44Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2018-03-21T16:03:58Z stylewarning: flip214: FASLs can’t even be trusted on the same OS with a minor change in version 2018-03-21T16:12:22Z oleo: why ? 2018-03-21T16:13:31Z Shinmera: Because binary compatibility is hard to maintain and not that useful. 2018-03-21T16:14:09Z oleo: welp, is there any other thing possible than fasl ? 2018-03-21T16:14:25Z jackdaniel: source code distribution 2018-03-21T16:14:32Z jackdaniel: you can compile it - you have compiler on site! 2018-03-21T16:14:34Z oleo: no i meant, format wise 2018-03-21T16:30:05Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T16:38:33Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-21T16:41:27Z dougk___ joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T16:43:53Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-21T16:44:09Z surya joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T16:57:16Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T16:59:05Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T17:00:50Z karlosz quit (Client Quit) 2018-03-21T17:04:36Z scymtym: dougk__: the sb-sprof breakage is likely due to my changes. i will have a look once child is in bed 2018-03-21T17:22:01Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T17:32:27Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T17:33:01Z stassats: |3b|: changing FPU modes is expensive, you need to perform it manually if you wish 2018-03-21T17:37:16Z foom joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T17:39:14Z foom2 quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-21T17:42:27Z surya quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-21T17:43:05Z |3b|: stassats: yeah, was trying to determine if it was wished (trying to help debug some ffi to foreign lib that gets different answers when called from sbcl or from c) 2018-03-21T18:08:19Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T18:09:23Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-21T18:12:11Z karlosz quit (Client Quit) 2018-03-21T18:12:29Z m00natic quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-21T18:15:29Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T19:03:39Z didi joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T19:09:41Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T19:14:53Z dougk___ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-21T19:16:13Z flip214: stylewarning: I'm talking about the same SBCL git version being used. 2018-03-21T19:18:21Z thodg quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-21T19:24:25Z fisxoj quit (Quit: fisxoj) 2018-03-21T19:42:13Z flip214: ouch. (SXHASH `((:key1 "string1") (:key2 "string2") . X)) collides even for different X'es. That's unexpected. 2018-03-21T19:43:25Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-21T19:48:18Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T20:09:47Z pfdietz joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T20:11:02Z pfdietz: What are you using sxhash for? 2018-03-21T20:11:44Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T20:11:51Z stassats: flip214: 2018-03-21T20:11:59Z stassats: (SXHASH `((:key1 "string1") (:key2 "string2") . X)) and (SXHASH `((:key1 "string1") (:key2 "string2") . Y)) 2018-03-21T20:12:01Z stassats: are different 2018-03-21T20:12:32Z fisxoj joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T20:13:16Z flip214: pfdietz: to generate "unique" IDs. 2018-03-21T20:13:26Z stassats: well, that's not sxhash 2018-03-21T20:14:55Z flip214: stassats: https://pastebin.com/mV1DUpg9 2018-03-21T20:15:05Z pfdietz: sxhash is more optimized for speed; not to be a crypto hash that depends on everything. 2018-03-21T20:15:32Z flip214: yeah; I was still surprised that it collides so easily! 2018-03-21T20:16:08Z stassats: flip214: there's more entries than in ((:key1 "string1") (:key2 "string2") . X) 2018-03-21T20:16:37Z flip214: stassats: sorry, the short version was one entry to short. 2018-03-21T20:16:58Z pfdietz: There must be someone in some quicklisp library that does what you want. 2018-03-21T20:17:09Z flip214: in the pastebin you can put comment markers on the lines beginning with %r14 and get the same result 2018-03-21T20:17:20Z flip214: pfdietz: I switched to use MD5 on a string representation. 2018-03-21T20:17:25Z flip214: that's good enough. 2018-03-21T20:17:31Z pfdietz: That works. 2018-03-21T20:20:27Z stassats: why (:xorl . "%eax,%eax") and not (:xorl "%eax" "%eax")? 2018-03-21T20:20:38Z stassats: or (:xorl :eax :eax) 2018-03-21T20:21:22Z dougk_ quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-21T20:21:40Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T20:21:47Z flip214: stassats: because I don't care about the operands themselves - I don't even split them up. 2018-03-21T20:22:03Z stassats: so, just :xorl? 2018-03-21T20:22:57Z flip214: no, I need to reproduce them later on. but isn't that completely tangential to the SXHASH collisions? 2018-03-21T20:26:18Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-21T20:32:28Z flip214: grrr, base64 has two non-word characters in it... or, for :uri T, still one 2018-03-21T20:32:45Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-21T20:32:47Z flip214: can I create a bignum from a (unsigned-byte 8) array easily? 2018-03-21T20:32:59Z stassats: no 2018-03-21T20:33:00Z flip214: by just interpreting the memory contents? 2018-03-21T20:33:33Z flip214: well, then I'll just keep the loop and MD5. 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So I get that "A call within a file to a named function that is defined in the same file refers to that function," but we're using the loophole "unless that function has been declared notinline." which stopped working 2018-03-22T23:18:22Z dougk_: anyway do you have a question about TLS i can help with ? 2018-03-22T23:18:40Z stassats: the RISCs are broken by memsetting it to zero 2018-03-22T23:18:42Z stassats: no idea why 2018-03-22T23:18:50Z dougk_: i want to rearrange struct thread so that interrupt contexts don't come in between the TLS slots and the start of dynamically assigned TLS indices. that's horrible 2018-03-22T23:18:56Z dougk_: ok, i will take a look 2018-03-22T23:19:24Z stassats: but i can't figure out how scavenge((lispobj *) (th+1), (SymbolValue(FREE_TLS_INDEX,0) >> WORD_SHIFT) - (sizeof (struct thread))/(sizeof (lispobj))); works 2018-03-22T23:19:31Z dougk_: and it's scary how many places in the code use "(char*)thread + dynamic_values_bytes". 2018-03-22T23:19:46Z dougk_: yes, indeed, i have to look at it every time and think about it, but I can explain how it's right 2018-03-22T23:19:52Z stassats: why does it scavenge from the start of the thread struct? 2018-03-22T23:19:56Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-22T23:19:59Z stassats: and subtracting its length 2018-03-22T23:20:19Z dougk_: "th + 1" is the word after the thread structure, plus-or-minus an accidental scavenging of 1 interrupt context. 2018-03-22T23:20:59Z dougk_: The end pointer is free_tls_index, in bytes. Shift right to get words. But subtract the number of words that the thread took up. 2018-03-22T23:21:18Z dougk_: again plus or minus 1 word which might get borked and i have to fix this because of how scary it is 2018-03-22T23:21:49Z dougk_: like is there an off-by-1 that almost never matters because if TLS is exhausted, we're dead anyway. The process died before we ever go to GC 2018-03-22T23:22:00Z stassats: th+1 does (char* th) + sizeof (struct thread)? 2018-03-22T23:22:08Z dougk_: yes 2018-03-22T23:22:37Z dougk_: have you parenthesized that right? i thought the cast was outside the addition 2018-03-22T23:22:59Z stassats: well, there's no cast in the code 2018-03-22T23:23:15Z dougk_: ok, then yes, that's what it does. the addition is adding the size of the stuct 2018-03-22T23:23:59Z dougk_: but what's worse is that we're using "(char*)thread + dynamic_values_bytes" in 25 different places 2018-03-22T23:24:03Z stassats: does it mean it redoes scavenge_interrupt_contexts? 2018-03-22T23:24:15Z dougk_: i think so 2018-03-22T23:24:39Z dougk_: that's why i don't like the contexts appearing as part of TLS. Did that break RISC ? I guess I forgot to check 2018-03-22T23:25:08Z stassats: i tried not zeroing them, didn't help 2018-03-22T23:25:47Z dougk_: i think it's that it broke precise GC, which all happen to be risc. I'll look at, this is obviously my doing 2018-03-22T23:27:12Z stassats: i would've just preprocessed out zeroing on riscs, but if i knew the actual reason it segfaults 2018-03-22T23:27:37Z dougk_: but you're certain that's the breaking change ? 2018-03-22T23:27:46Z stassats: yeah 2018-03-22T23:27:51Z dougk_: very weird. 2018-03-22T23:27:59Z stassats: the zeroing bit specifically 2018-03-22T23:28:31Z stassats: and it's not the zeoring segfaulting 2018-03-22T23:29:30Z dougk_: anyway, the weird thing for me is that our QPX image has 10KB of tenured garbage immediately on restarting an image produced by S-L-A-D (and not letting it even get to main) 2018-03-22T23:29:41Z stassats: maybe something doing with PINNED_OBJECTS? 2018-03-22T23:29:45Z dougk_: i was trying to fix that 2018-03-22T23:30:18Z dougk_: i'll look tonight. i gotta get my kids to bed 2018-03-22T23:30:26Z dougk_: well, it is tonight. I'll look later tonight 2018-03-22T23:30:56Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-22T23:31:55Z stassats: switched write_TLS(PINNED_OBJECTS, NIL, th); and memset places 2018-03-22T23:31:56Z stassats: and it works 2018-03-22T23:33:28Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-22T23:33:28Z dougk_: of course, because reading PINNED_OBJECTS looks at TLS 2018-03-22T23:33:44Z stassats: it wants a list, not a fixnum 2018-03-22T23:34:21Z stassats: ok, now to sparc, for some reason it's failing without having threads enabled 2018-03-22T23:34:40Z stassats: dougk_: is your notinline thingy APPLied? 2018-03-22T23:34:42Z stassats: or mv-called? 2018-03-22T23:35:03Z stassats: (which is the same) 2018-03-22T23:37:09Z stassats: lvar-fun-type is supposed to honour :notinline 2018-03-22T23:40:57Z stassats: huh, (multiple-value-call 'bar (mm)) gets derived, (multiple-value-call #'bar (mm)) doesn't 2018-03-22T23:50:57Z scymtym: SLIME uses SB-SPROF::CALL-GRAPH-FLAT-NODES which i removed. fix SLIME or put it back in? 2018-03-22T23:52:02Z stassats: fixing slime is easy, but disseminating a fix is harder 2018-03-22T23:52:05Z stassats: what did it do? 2018-03-22T23:52:49Z stassats: ok, it doesn't work without it 2018-03-22T23:53:18Z stassats: scymtym: better to put it back in 2018-03-22T23:53:35Z thodg quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-22T23:54:15Z stassats: or put whatever in so that M-x slime-sprof-report works 2018-03-22T23:58:05Z stassats quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-22T23:58:29Z scymtym: stassats: ok, i'm making it an alias for GRAPH-VERTICES (which is unsorted). i can make SLIME sort the vertices properly as a separate change 2018-03-23T00:00:01Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T00:12:10Z stassats: arm64 broken with -sb-thread, since no idea when 2018-03-23T00:12:13Z stassats: can't say i care much 2018-03-23T00:13:11Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-23T00:23:09Z stassats: ok, this is fun, bisecting sparc, a revision doesn't just fail, it spins at 100% 2018-03-23T00:23:24Z stassats: no idea how to mark it, i guess it's bad too 2018-03-23T00:25:14Z stassats: and sparc is really slow 2018-03-23T00:28:40Z eschatologist quit (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb2build2 - http://znc.in) 2018-03-23T00:29:15Z eschatologist joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T00:35:28Z stassats: each revision fails differently 2018-03-23T00:48:52Z stassats: SBCL_MAKE_PARALLEL did something wrong on sparc 2018-03-23T00:49:36Z stassats: will have to unset, things will get even slower 2018-03-23T00:59:17Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T01:04:14Z karlosz quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-23T01:23:10Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-23T01:41:46Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-23T01:47:22Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T02:00:05Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-23T02:02:45Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T02:07:23Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-23T02:08:22Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T02:18:12Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T02:24:06Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-23T02:44:05Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-23T03:22:41Z foom2 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-23T03:23:53Z foom joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T03:36:29Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-23T04:02:49Z shka_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T04:15:38Z Bike quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 2018-03-23T04:16:40Z dustinm` quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-03-23T04:21:16Z dustinm` joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T04:58:21Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T05:03:22Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-23T05:23:26Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T05:41:33Z karlosz joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T06:26:10Z shka_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-23T06:34:17Z milanj_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T07:01:26Z oleo quit (Quit: Leaving) 2018-03-23T07:08:27Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-23T07:36:54Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-23T08:18:56Z karlosz quit (Quit: karlosz) 2018-03-23T08:29:04Z smokeink quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-23T08:31:02Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T08:35:46Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-23T08:41:11Z scymtym joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T09:22:09Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T09:27:26Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-23T09:29:05Z Ven`` joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T10:21:40Z thodg joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T10:22:30Z copec quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2018-03-23T10:26:31Z copec joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T11:03:47Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-23T11:07:31Z Ven`` quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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2018-03-26T11:13:49Z stassats: and this being an inlining problem calling for ir copying, i don't think i can address it the next release cycle either 2018-03-26T11:14:22Z stassats: jackdaniel: there's no problem with mcclim 2018-03-26T11:14:35Z jackdaniel: OK, thanks 2018-03-26T11:16:37Z stassats: now that this aver is failing on some real code, i might try to just fix that symptom, before fixing inlining for good 2018-03-26T11:16:57Z stassats: (which has been going for, what, two or three years?) 2018-03-26T11:23:34Z m00natic joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T11:56:03Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T11:58:13Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-26T12:03:21Z milanj_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T12:11:39Z milanj_ quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-26T12:28:56Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T12:37:31Z stassats: the whole component being deleted due to XEPs becoming unreachable/not reaching anywhere is a familiar problem 2018-03-26T12:37:37Z stassats: maybe there's an easy solution 2018-03-26T12:38:16Z Xach: stassats: Should I send my sb-cover patch with your change, or can that be done by whomever applies it? 2018-03-26T12:38:36Z stassats: is it just a diff or a git format-patch? 2018-03-26T12:40:02Z stassats: the latter, then probably better to reformat it, since editing diffs is a bit trickier 2018-03-26T12:40:29Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T12:41:05Z stassats: though commit --ammend should work 2018-03-26T12:46:16Z Xach: stassats: it is format-patch 2018-03-26T12:50:51Z Kevslinger joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T12:57:51Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-26T13:07:21Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-26T13:08:01Z onion joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T13:17:02Z onion is now known as whoman 2018-03-26T13:17:19Z whoman is now known as onion 2018-03-26T13:17:22Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T13:19:44Z stassats: i think it goes like , the xep is converted into a call to the local function, then it's not reachable and is deleted, the call to the function is also deleted, and anything the precedes the call is also deleted 2018-03-26T13:19:50Z stassats: and the whole component goes 2018-03-26T13:31:51Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T13:37:35Z stassats: the jump from deleting the xep to deleting everything is not entirely clear, usually, the preceding blocks are deleted 2018-03-26T13:58:34Z stassats: hmm, the lvar used by the inlined ir1 is weird 2018-03-26T13:59:43Z stassats: oh right, it's the ir1-copy thing, the block is using the wrong lvar 2018-03-26T14:03:45Z stassats: now, can i detect that the lvar has been changed and refuse to inline, like the locall-already-let-converted catch tag 2018-03-26T14:05:03Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T14:14:28Z oleo2 joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T14:16:28Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T14:19:09Z sjl__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T14:24:30Z rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T14:56:42Z stassats: Xof: i have a potential and somewhat self-contained fix that shouldn't break anything other than local inlining 2018-03-26T15:01:36Z Xach: I updated my patch at https://www.xach.com/tmp/0001-patch.txt - can post to sbcl-devel in a few. 2018-03-26T15:02:35Z stassats: Xof: but i'm pretty confident in it and would sign off on it, but maybe extend the testing period just a bit 2018-03-26T15:09:21Z fouric quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-26T15:09:23Z stassats: it appears to fix lp#1744115 and lp#1523149, but not lp#1742781 2018-03-26T15:10:50Z stassats: i'd steel prefer the ultimate solution for inlining to be IR1 copying, but it's not trivial 2018-03-26T15:19:38Z sjl__ is now known as sjl 2018-03-26T15:24:16Z smokeink quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-26T15:24:41Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T15:30:27Z ckonstanski joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T15:56:18Z BitPuffin joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T15:56:59Z smokeink quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-26T16:10:46Z pootler joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T16:19:29Z pootler quit (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com) 2018-03-26T16:26:11Z pootler joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T16:28:35Z pootler quit (Client Quit) 2018-03-26T16:40:29Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T16:41:32Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T16:41:42Z rpg quit (Client Quit) 2018-03-26T16:41:55Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-03-26T16:43:59Z rpg: Possibly stupid question: Does bordeaux-threads work effectively on SBCL, given SBCL's distinction (which I confess I still don't understand very well) between WITH-TIMEOUT and WITH-DEADLINE? 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to HyperSpec 3) deprecation conditions get distinct faces when highlighted in source 2018-03-27T11:47:45Z stassats: what condition includes a reference to special operators? 2018-03-27T11:48:32Z scymtym: let me check, i think i used it in sbcl at some point 2018-03-27T11:50:27Z scymtym: SB-INT:CONSTANT-MODIFIED 2018-03-27T11:50:45Z stassats: ok, that's a warning 2018-03-27T11:50:55Z stassats: so, *break-on-signals* to test it 2018-03-27T11:52:14Z stassats: and the colors are scientifically chosen? 2018-03-27T11:53:46Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-27T11:53:47Z stassats: one problem, my sbcl doesn't have sb-ext:early-deprecation-warning 2018-03-27T11:53:55Z stassats: or any -deprecation-warning 2018-03-27T11:54:35Z scymtym: the colors correspond to SLIME'S colors for similar conditions, but the faces add strikethrough 2018-03-27T11:55:05Z stassats: sb-ext:early-deprecation-warning was added in 1.0.44.26 2018-03-27T11:55:23Z stassats: so, would need a swank/backend:with-symbol treatment 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stassats: it's for filtering forms for compiler warnings 2018-03-28T19:35:41Z dougk_: yah, the question is why it's trying to emit so many warnings in the first place. it's machine-generated code courtesy of cl-protobufs. 2018-03-28T19:36:49Z stassats: or maybe sset 2018-03-28T19:37:32Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-28T19:42:37Z stassats: looks it's called on some pcl guts 2018-03-28T19:42:48Z dougk_: hash-table -> back to 5 seconds 2018-03-28T19:43:02Z stassats: care to try an sset? 2018-03-28T19:44:47Z dougk_: it's not quite amenable to that, is it? You're trying to store the new cons first and modify destructively 2018-03-28T19:44:47Z dougk_: so that if circularity is seen we can return the old cons. so it's not exactly "just" a set 2018-03-28T19:44:47Z dougk_: i.e. an object doesn't map to itself, it maps to a new thing 2018-03-28T19:45:14Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-28T19:45:23Z stassats: oh, i forgot that sset is just for nodes 2018-03-28T19:46:03Z dougk_: i'm slightly inclined to use a list that converts to a hash-table after 10 items or so. will see how that goes 2018-03-28T19:47:57Z stassats: probably better to find where it's called so much 2018-03-28T19:48:37Z stassats: all the calls are from making make-compiler-error-context, but it's not always used, so, delaying stringify-form might help 2018-03-28T19:50:09Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-28T19:50:11Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-28T19:53:20Z dougk_: it's only called once, but the form has 24500 conses 2018-03-28T20:03:21Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 240 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The easiest way to trigger this I've found so far is to load CL-PPCRE and do the following: (ppcre:register-groups-bind (x) ("(\\d+)" "whatever") x) 2018-03-29T10:30:55Z jdz: Should I go and create a ticket? 2018-03-29T10:31:55Z stassats: that doesn't trigger it 2018-03-29T10:32:17Z jdz: Hmm. 2018-03-29T10:33:19Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T10:35:06Z jdz: OK, I recompiled CL-PPCRE without (sb-ext:restrict-compiler-policy 'safety 1) and (sb-ext:restrict-compiler-policy 'debug 1) in my initfile, and it does not trigger any more. 2018-03-29T10:35:47Z stassats: ppcre shouldn't use safety 0 2018-03-29T10:35:55Z jdz: I agree. 2018-03-29T10:36:03Z stassats: as in it doesn't 2018-03-29T10:36:22Z jdz: Well, adding back (sb-ext:restrict-compiler-policy 'safety 1) I get the error back. 2018-03-29T10:36:42Z jdz: This problem also occurs when loading ARNESI. 2018-03-29T10:37:47Z stassats: ppcre doesn't use safety 0, but your restriction affects an internal sbcl (safety 0) 2018-03-29T10:38:26Z stassats: and (make-array 10 :initial-element 10) would be enough 2018-03-29T10:40:44Z jdz: I can't trigger the error with just the MAKE-ARRY call. 2018-03-29T10:41:49Z stassats quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2018-03-29T10:42:04Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T10:43:37Z m00natic joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T10:50:17Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T11:01:14Z stassats: jdz: should be fixed 2018-03-29T11:04:33Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-29T11:09:05Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-03-29T11:20:21Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T11:20:55Z jdz: stassats: Thank you! Everything's back to normal on my end. 2018-03-29T11:21:01Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T11:21:14Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T11:26:05Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2018-03-29T11:32:44Z flip214: looks like an SBCL image has leftover sources in it; a hex editor shows fragments. 2018-03-29T11:33:01Z flip214: could the GC pass for writing an image start with zeroed-out memory? 2018-03-29T11:33:15Z stassats: huh? 2018-03-29T11:37:23Z flip214: well, short source fragments... "(INTERN-AS-KEYWORD ARG)" "(+ DEPTH 1)" 2018-03-29T11:37:44Z flip214: "(COPY-STRUCTURE (THE OPTIONAL-ARG SB-KERNEL:INSTANCE))" 2018-03-29T11:40:08Z flip214: that's visible in uncompressed images, of course... 2018-03-29T11:40:39Z flip214: compression might benefit if such leftovers (if that's what they are!) could be zeroed, too 2018-03-29T11:41:22Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T11:44:35Z stassats: what leftovers? 2018-03-29T11:46:32Z joshe quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2018-03-29T11:48:02Z joshe joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T11:52:27Z flip214: these short ascii sequences that I believe to be source code fragments. 2018-03-29T11:52:59Z stassats: you can't open a hex editor and point to leftovers or whatnot 2018-03-29T11:54:59Z flip214: well, I'm fairly sure that these are not strings embedded to be used again (in error messages or such) 2018-03-29T11:57:57Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-29T11:59:45Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-29T12:03:54Z jdz: flip214: Maybe they are there for debugging (source location) support? 2018-03-29T12:05:01Z stassats joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T12:05:44Z flip214: jdz: there are cut-off things like "(error printing "... as well, so I don't think so. 2018-03-29T12:06:02Z flip214: and for sb-kernel things the debug location isn't even saved, right? 2018-03-29T12:09:53Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T12:10:09Z stassats`: flip214: then don't use (debug 3) 2018-03-29T12:10:50Z flip214: stassats`: for _my_ code I do. 2018-03-29T12:18:41Z stassats`: don't use for not your code then 2018-03-29T12:26:43Z Bike is now known as Bicyclidine 2018-03-29T13:01:30Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2018-03-29T13:05:05Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T13:09:57Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-03-29T13:18:03Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T13:18:10Z milanj joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T13:20:01Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2018-03-29T13:26:18Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T13:31:35Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-29T13:46:59Z dougk__ joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T14:12:22Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T14:16:45Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2018-03-29T14:19:23Z sjl joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T14:52:44Z stassats` joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T14:59:12Z BitPuffin quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-29T15:10:49Z smokeink joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T15:14:39Z Bike quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2018-03-29T15:14:40Z smokeink quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2018-03-29T15:15:57Z __rumbler31 quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2018-03-29T15:18:50Z dougk__ quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2018-03-29T15:20:50Z oleo joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T15:44:19Z Bike joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T15:46:22Z __rumbler31 joined #sbcl 2018-03-29T15:54:57Z stassats` quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2018-03-29T15:58:21Z Xof: everybody happy now with sbcl master? 2018-03-29T16:01:55Z |3b|: it broke my local sb-sprof hack, but i can't really complain about that :) 2018-03-29T16:02:43Z Xof: well you can! But thank you for your forbearance 2018-03-29T16:02:51Z Xof: (or three of them, anyway) 2018-03-29T16:03:32Z |3b|: nah, i mess with internals with the understanding it will break eventually :) 2018-03-29T16:04:33Z |3b|: if i complained about something it would be not matching the platform ABI well enough for me to do things 'correctly' enough to submit upstream 2018-03-29T16:06:20Z |3b|: but as far as i can tell that would require fairly major changes, and might require os-specific code-generation, so not sure it is worth doing anyway 2018-03-29T16:08:03Z |3b| should probably try the other 2 potentially 'correct' options for implementing sprof at some point and see if either of those are more viable 2018-03-29T16:10:57Z |3b|: (current hack uses windows APIs to profile, but without fixing ABI it can't walk stack so no caller/calee info. other potentially correct options i can think of are just interrupt threads like unix does, or grab a snapshot of process memory and try to convince 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One possibility for why we're not getting commitmails any more is that /usr/sbin/sendmail doesn't exist 2018-03-31T15:30:04Z stassats: is it still not allowing shell access? 2018-03-31T15:31:02Z Xof: no, I have shell access 2018-03-31T15:31:06Z stassats: seems to working now 2018-03-31T15:31:08Z Xof: so now I'm poking around 2018-03-31T15:31:17Z stassats: (shell access, not commit mails) 2018-03-31T15:31:36Z stassats: dunno, try running the script? 2018-03-31T15:31:46Z stassats: somehow 2018-03-31T15:32:18Z Xof: well, I have established that /usr/sbin/sendmail doesn't exist, and the script wants it to 2018-03-31T15:32:32Z Xof: I don't know whether that's the same on the shell servers as the git server 2018-03-31T15:33:26Z stassats: don't know how to get onto the git server, but you can change the script to print out stuff 2018-03-31T15:33:40Z stassats: maybe using a new branch to trigger it 2018-03-31T15:36:34Z Xof: I've added set -x at the top 2018-03-31T15:43:23Z flip214: got the mail program replaced by a dist-upgrade or so? 2018-03-31T15:43:36Z flip214: exim had some severe problems, so perhaps postfix got installed 2018-03-31T15:43:45Z flip214: but that has /usr/bin/sendmail or so 2018-03-31T15:44:25Z Xof: well, the /usr/share/git-core/contrib/hooks/post-receive-email file on the shell server (i.e. not sbcl's modified version) tries to call /usr/sbin/sendmail too 2018-03-31T15:44:37Z Xof: so I would tend to blame the current sf installations 2018-03-31T15:44:48Z flip214: is there a sendmail anywhere? 2018-03-31T15:44:51Z Xof: we'll see if the next person to commit gets understandable output 2018-03-31T15:45:06Z Xof: flip214: not as far as I can tell, but, again, this server isn't necessarily the same one that actually runs the script 2018-03-31T15:45:36Z flip214: Xof: "which sendmail"? 2018-03-31T15:45:39Z flip214: hmmm 2018-03-31T15:47:06Z stassats: Xof: i pushed into a new branch 2018-03-31T15:48:02Z stassats: can't say that i can tell what's wrong 2018-03-31T15:48:39Z stassats: https://gist.github.com/stassats/9e0e7866bd90bbc57ae674e7c9c40e11 2018-03-31T15:58:52Z jjkola joined #sbcl 2018-03-31T15:59:50Z jjkola: hi 2018-03-31T16:00:22Z stassats: jjkola: hi 2018-03-31T16:03:30Z Xof: stassats: indeed. It looks like the sendmail call there worked 2018-03-31T16:03:41Z Xof: so, new hypothesis: probably their mail setup is broken 2018-03-31T16:03:45Z Xof: I'll take out the -x 2018-03-31T16:03:45Z stassats: who can send to sbcl-commits? 2018-03-31T16:04:16Z stassats: i added MAIL_DEBUG, but it says nothing 2018-03-31T16:06:27Z stassats: just sent a manual mail to sbcl-commits 2018-03-31T16:06:31Z Xof: oh, hey look 2018-03-31T16:06:37Z Xof: there are a bunch of things waiting for moderation 2018-03-31T16:06:41Z Xof: they are from... 2018-03-31T16:07:00Z Xof: scymtym@sfp-scm-1.v30.lw.sourceforge.com 2018-03-31T16:07:03Z Xof: and similar 2018-03-31T16:07:39Z Xof: ok, this is going to be painful 2018-03-31T16:07:52Z stassats: can you discard everything? 2018-03-31T16:07:57Z Xof: yes 2018-03-31T16:08:10Z Xof: but I need to set up filters so that they get through from now on 2018-03-31T16:08:16Z stassats: also, sbcl-help is moderated, how can i moderate it? 2018-03-31T16:08:24Z stassats: err, sbcl-bugs 2018-03-31T16:08:27Z Xof: argh and of course there are a billion different hostnames 2018-03-31T16:08:32Z stassats: because things usually go to die there 2018-03-31T16:08:44Z Xof: stassats: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/admindb/sbcl-bugs 2018-03-31T16:08:50Z Xof: mail coming to you about the password 2018-03-31T16:17:03Z Xof: aha, looks like there's a bit of magic regexpness that will do the trick. 2018-03-31T16:18:15Z Xof: stassats: can you do another push to your test branch? 2018-03-31T16:19:37Z stassats: Xof: that password worked and it's a very strange password 2018-03-31T16:20:24Z Xof: blame nikodemus 2018-03-31T16:21:29Z stassats: added myself to the recipient list, but there's a lot of old things to review already 2018-03-31T16:22:17Z pfdietz_: Why does it think BUGS is binary? 2018-03-31T16:22:54Z stassats: file BUGS: BUGS: SBC archive data 2018-03-31T16:25:17Z Xof: okey dokey 2018-03-31T16:25:23Z Xof: hackety hackety 2018-03-31T16:29:18Z Xof: right, sbcl-commits /should/ work again 2018-03-31T16:29:39Z Xof: votes on what to do with the 2 months of commitmails 2018-03-31T16:30:59Z Xof: (discarding seems like the only sane thing) 2018-03-31T16:32:46Z pfdietz_: Are they in the archive? 2018-03-31T16:33:30Z pfdietz_: (looks) no 2018-03-31T16:33:42Z Xof: stassats: you have post-receive-email open in vi 2018-03-31T16:33:53Z Xof: you can delete the two debugging lines 2018-03-31T16:34:06Z Xof: pfdietz_: they're not, no. I can send them but that will mailbomb everyone 2018-03-31T16:35:39Z slyrus_: MORE MAIL! 2018-03-31T16:35:50Z slyrus_: whatever happened to minion? 2018-03-31T16:35:56Z rpg joined #sbcl 2018-03-31T16:35:58Z pfdietz_: Still waiting for my flood of fix-released emails. 2018-03-31T16:36:01Z Xof: the archive isn't all that useful 2018-03-31T16:36:28Z Xof: pfdietz_: clearly stassats has been busy 2018-03-31T16:36:47Z pfdietz_: He's a churning engine of productivity. 2018-03-31T16:37:48Z Xof: well by "everyone" I suppose I mean everyone who is subscribed to sbcl-commits, who maybe expects the odd mailbomb 2018-03-31T16:37:49Z stassats: minion: chant 2018-03-31T16:37:49Z minion: MORE MAIL 2018-03-31T16:37:52Z stassats: slyrus_: nothing 2018-03-31T16:38:25Z slyrus_: nice 2018-03-31T16:39:59Z pchrist quit (Quit: leaving) 2018-03-31T16:40:44Z pchrist joined #sbcl 2018-03-31T16:42:11Z Xof: I've convinced myself that mailbombing is the best thing. 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