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2018-01-13T11:55:02Z loke: I just upgraded to the latest SBCL and I'm getting this error:
2018-01-13T11:55:31Z loke:   OPERATION instances must only be created through MAKE-OPERATION.
2018-01-13T11:55:39Z loke: That happens when trying to load cffi-libffi
2018-01-13T11:55:40Z stassats: not an sbcl error
2018-01-13T11:56:09Z loke: Right, but it happens after upgrading SBCL, so I guess there is an incompatibility bug caused by the library. I was hoping someone else found it already.
2018-01-13T11:56:20Z stassats: pester the asdf people for their wonderful backwards compatibility
2018-01-13T11:56:21Z loke: Are you able to quickload that library?
2018-01-13T11:56:37Z loke: I'd like to confirm that it's not just my system.
2018-01-13T11:57:11Z aeth: Try deleting the fasls in ~/.cache/common-lisp/sbcl-your-current-version/path/to/library/*fasl
2018-01-13T11:57:54Z aeth: That separates it by version so it's probably not that, but that's the first thing I always try and it usually works
2018-01-13T11:58:09Z loke: I'll try. I'll just delete all of it.
2018-01-13T11:58:48Z loke: aeth: Same.
2018-01-13T11:58:51Z stassats: the asdf people break asdf, and the sbcl people have to run their support line
2018-01-13T11:58:54Z loke: Are you able to quickload cffi-libffi?
2018-01-13T11:59:23Z loke: If it fails for someone else, I'll slap ASDF around.
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2018-01-13T12:05:05Z aeth: this? (ql:quickload :cffi-libffi)
2018-01-13T12:05:12Z loke: Yes
2018-01-13T12:05:16Z aeth: I don't get an error in 1.4.3
2018-01-13T12:05:33Z aeth: Could it have something to do with your C compiler for some reason?
2018-01-13T12:05:43Z loke: It happens before trying to compile
2018-01-13T12:05:44Z stassats: uhm, how?
2018-01-13T12:06:02Z loke: I need to try with other CL's
2018-01-13T12:08:24Z loke: Works with ECL. Weird
2018-01-13T12:08:55Z stassats: which ships with an older asdf?
2018-01-13T12:09:15Z loke: ah yes, of course. ASDF is shipped with the implementation.
2018-01-13T12:09:43Z loke: DO you happen to know which git version introduced the updated ASDF? I'd like to try with the previous version to confirm this.
2018-01-13T12:09:53Z loke: (sorry for screaming "DO", typo)
2018-01-13T12:09:55Z stassats: can you move it to the asdf mailing list, not because i mind it, just so that they know what problems people encounter?
2018-01-13T12:10:42Z stassats: loke: what does it matter?
2018-01-13T12:10:52Z stassats: your software doesn't work with the new asdf
2018-01-13T12:10:56Z stassats: period
2018-01-13T12:11:03Z stassats: update your software
2018-01-13T12:11:42Z loke: stassats: Well, the software that fails is not "my" software, it's cffi. So the fix should go in there, I guess.
2018-01-13T12:12:12Z stassats: except that cffi does work
2018-01-13T12:12:44Z loke: stassats: cffi works. cffi-libffi doesn't.
2018-01-13T12:13:10Z stassats: i believe aeth
2018-01-13T12:13:11Z loke: I'm assuming that cffi-libffi is doing something that is "illegal" in new ASDF
2018-01-13T12:13:38Z stassats: don't you have a backtrace or something?
2018-01-13T12:13:39Z loke: stassats: Me too, but aeth isn't running the latest git build.
2018-01-13T12:14:42Z loke: I am... It's here if anyone is interested: https://gist.github.com/lokedhs/13c993fb57548a88a865dbd06554a3aa
2018-01-13T12:17:23Z loke: Anyway, I need to leave the house for a bit. Thanks for the help. Thanks for pointing out that it's probably ASDF's fault. I'll investigate further later.
2018-01-13T12:17:59Z Shinmera: loke: I can load it fine. Fresh SBCL built just now, latest ASDF from master, latest QL.
2018-01-13T12:18:31Z stassats: loke: your cffi is two years old
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2018-01-13T13:13:23Z loke: stassats: That's strange. I updated QL just now.
2018-01-13T13:13:39Z loke: I wonder if the QL updates went wrong
2018-01-13T13:13:57Z stassats: and your local-projects is still having an old cffi
2018-01-13T13:14:28Z loke: stassats: Yes. That's what I discovered just now. Thanks for the pointer.
2018-01-13T13:14:35Z loke: Sorry for wasting your time.
2018-01-13T13:15:17Z stassats: see, asdf backwards compatibility problems make you notice outdated software is lingering somewhere
2018-01-13T13:15:31Z loke: stassats: I'm trying to decide if that's a good thing or not :-)
2018-01-13T13:16:24Z loke: Definitely a good thing in this case. The cause was me making a pull request to the cffi project a long time ago
2018-01-13T13:16:32Z stassats: i don't need more reasons to dislike asdf, my dislike is overflowing
2018-01-13T13:16:46Z loke: stassats: Thanks. At least it's not just me.
2018-01-13T13:17:30Z stassats: i guess i wouldn't feel as much if sbcl didn't ship with it
2018-01-13T13:18:29Z stassats: i can vouch and support any other part of sbcl, but this is third party and developed outside of sbcl, yet the problems affect sbcl
2018-01-13T13:20:13Z scymtym: at we don't do continuous integration with asdf. imagine that
2018-01-13T13:21:52Z stassats: and maybe if virtually every lisp software didn't depend on asdf
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2018-01-13T13:51:24Z pfdietz: quicklisp was a useful source of forms for random testing, but trying to download all the systems was painful
2018-01-13T13:51:46Z stassats: how so?
2018-01-13T13:52:21Z pfdietz: There was one system that, when quickloaded, broke all the following systems.   And many just don't compile now.
2018-01-13T13:52:42Z stassats: so, not download but compile
2018-01-13T13:54:08Z pfdietz: Well, I want to load them, so the forms can be interpreted better (so packages, macros. etc. are available)
2018-01-13T13:54:26Z pfdietz: asdf-system-connections was the culprit
2018-01-13T13:54:37Z stassats: well, don't load them all at once
2018-01-13T13:55:20Z pfdietz: Yes, I had to go through them manually.
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2018-01-13T14:00:31Z loke: scymtym: How did you figure out which system was at fault?
2018-01-13T14:02:25Z pfdietz: Sorry, was that intended to be addressed to me?
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2018-01-13T14:27:39Z scymtym: loke: sorry, what are you referring to?
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2018-01-13T14:35:23Z loke: scymtym: You said a system, when loaded, prevented others from working.
2018-01-13T14:35:33Z loke: How did you ifgure out which one caused the incompatibility?
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2018-01-13T14:41:41Z scymtym: loke: i think you are confusing me with pfdietz?
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2018-01-13T15:22:00Z pfdietz: Yes, that was me.  I had to repeatly load a list of systems until I found that one that was causing the problem.  Initially, I just tried to load everything I got from (ql:system-apropos-list "")
2018-01-13T15:22:51Z pfdietz: My guess is asdf-system-connections is not up to date with the latest asdf.
2018-01-13T15:24:27Z Shinmera: pfdietz: The proper way to get all ASDF system names provided by quicklisp is this: (mapcar #'ql-dist:name (ql-dist:provided-systems (ql-dist:find-dist "quicklisp")))
2018-01-13T15:26:49Z pfdietz: Ok
2018-01-13T16:10:25Z scymtym: one of these https://ci.cor-lab.org/job/sbcl-master/featureset=default,label=ubuntu_trusty_64bit/2858/ seems to have broken SPARC cross-build: https://ci.cor-lab.org/job/sbcl-cross-build-master/architecture=sparc,label=ubuntu_xenial_64bit/61/console
2018-01-13T16:10:30Z scymtym: corci: why didn't you tell us
2018-01-13T16:10:30Z corci: scymtym did you mean me? Unknown command 'why'
2018-01-13T16:10:30Z corci: Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
2018-01-13T16:12:48Z nyef``: Hunh. Well, that's three of my commits.
2018-01-13T16:13:49Z nyef``: Bloody OAOOM drift. /-:
2018-01-13T16:14:19Z nyef``: scymtym: I'll fix this once I've finished my current bisection.
2018-01-13T16:15:29Z nyef``: Meanwhile, this is a perfect time for me to see what the crossbuild-runner does.
2018-01-13T16:17:27Z scymtym: nyef``: thanks. i don't think it's urgent. i just didn't want it to go unnoticed
2018-01-13T16:17:56Z nyef``: Good call.
2018-01-13T16:18:43Z pfdietz: How important are SPARC builds now anyway?
2018-01-13T16:18:56Z nyef``: Found three OAOOM faults so far over two backends without half trying, thanks to this.
2018-01-13T16:19:17Z pfdietz: Can't argue with that.
2018-01-13T16:22:07Z nyef``: It's not that SPARC builds are important in and of themselves, it's that the more backends that we have in regular testing the easier it is to improve things across the board.
2018-01-13T16:22:43Z stassats: pfdietz: more important than alpha
2018-01-13T16:22:58Z stassats: less important than ppc
2018-01-13T16:24:42Z nyef``: The importances seem to be ((alpha) (hppa sparc mips) (ppc arm) (arm64 x86 x86-64)), roughly.
2018-01-13T16:25:42Z stassats: x86 is kinda falling off, although the easiest to keep working
2018-01-13T16:26:31Z nyef``: Alpha simply doesn't work. HPPA limps along, but still needs quite a bit of attention to even be able to run the test suite without choking. SPARC and MIPS get little attention, but are at least able to run the test suite (even if they tend towards having some failures).
2018-01-13T16:27:43Z nyef``: PPC is... approaching a clean test-suite run.
2018-01-13T16:36:28Z nyef``: scymtym: Your CI server seems to be doing primarily x86oid builds and the crossbuild-runner, is that right?
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2018-01-13T17:01:43Z scymtym: nyef``: right. the combinations are {x86,x86_64} x {linux,darwin,win32} x {--fancy,--without-thread,--xc-host=ccl,…} with some omissions and the cross-build job
2018-01-13T17:03:01Z nyef``: Is this because your build hardware is purely x86oid?
2018-01-13T17:03:28Z stassats: who really has non-x86 hardware these days?
2018-01-13T17:03:57Z scymtym: nyef``: mostly virtual machines, but basically yes
2018-01-13T17:04:50Z nyef``: stassats: People involved in the ARMs race?
2018-01-13T17:24:34Z joshe: oh neat, sbcl can relocate the core now
2018-01-13T17:25:05Z joshe: I don't suppose it can deal with the executable relocating as well
2018-01-13T17:25:23Z stassats: that's been working for years
2018-01-13T17:26:12Z joshe: oh, great
2018-01-13T17:28:13Z pfdietz: I don't suppose it make sense to run a lisp on a GPU.
2018-01-13T17:30:53Z |3b|: not a whole lisp currently
2018-01-13T17:32:21Z |3b|: about same state as connection machines, where you run "a lisp" on a normal CPU which sends bits and pieces to the specialized hardware
2018-01-13T17:33:31Z |3b|: though possibly approaching the point where it "makes sense" at the "could be done, if not particularly useful, and possibly with some external assistance"
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2018-01-13T17:39:25Z scymtym: i'm turning the main test machinery into a sb-test contrib, eventually replacing sb-rt in contrib tests. any objections?
2018-01-13T17:39:52Z stassats: no
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2018-01-13T18:05:04Z stassats: trying hard to come up with a way to avoid copying IR
2018-01-13T18:06:21Z stassats: maybe turning IR into sexps, and then feeding it back to ir1-convert-lambda
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2018-01-13T18:14:13Z Shinmera: pfdietz: The next best thing is a compiler for CL-like syntax to GLSL, which Varjo can do. CEPL extends that to allow variable sharing between the two in nifty ways, so you might want to look at that.
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2018-01-13T18:14:25Z stassats: could be used for something else as well
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2018-01-13T18:15:30Z |3b| thinks compiling to cuda/opencl would be next best thing to full lisp on GPU, though compiling to glsl is nice for graphics work :)
2018-01-13T18:16:04Z Shinmera: |3b|: Well, there's compute shaders too, which I think CEPL started supporting just recently.
2018-01-13T18:16:55Z |3b|: yeah, that's somewhere in the middle
2018-01-13T18:18:21Z stassats: how slow is IR->sexp->IR going to be?
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2018-01-13T18:25:12Z stassats: i keep getting discouraged by all the complicated cases, but i haven't even copied (lambda ()) yet
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2018-01-13T18:29:28Z corci: Yippee, build fixed!
2018-01-13T18:29:28Z corci: Project sbcl-master-windows » Windows_7_32bit build #1763: FIXED in 28 min: http://ci.cor-lab.de/job/sbcl-master-windows/label=Windows_7_32bit/1763/
2018-01-13T18:30:08Z stassats: would ir copying even help?
2018-01-13T18:31:00Z stassats: suppose i have  (lambda (x &rest rest)), one caller is calling it with (1), so the rest processor is deleted, but the newly inlined caller calls with (1 2)
2018-01-13T18:33:17Z stassats: and that's already the current problem, passing inlinable locals to other inlined local functions
2018-01-13T18:37:55Z stassats: so, it should retain a sort of XEP that should prevent that
2018-01-13T18:38:03Z nyef``: Why is the rest processor deleted before IR1 optimization is done?
2018-01-13T18:38:12Z nyef``: s/done/finished/
2018-01-13T18:38:15Z stassats: no other references
2018-01-13T18:38:58Z stassats: example: (defun f68 (x) (block nil (labels ((%s (&optional r)) (f (g2) (multiple-value-call #'%s 1) (return))) (declare (inline f)) (sb-kernel:%map nil #'f (if x (error "x"))))))
2018-01-13T18:40:03Z stassats: the call to %S is processed before %map is transformed into a call to %F
2018-01-13T18:41:32Z stassats: references to functionals is just one example
2018-01-13T18:42:25Z nyef``: Is the general principle approximately "things in the lexical environment may gain additional references during IR1 optimization"?
2018-01-13T18:42:28Z stassats: suppose i have a call (lambda (x) (when x 10)) and a call with (T), so it's always folded
2018-01-13T18:42:43Z stassats: i need to keep a non called reference to it so that it's never optimized
2018-01-13T18:43:08Z stassats: basically a #'local
2018-01-13T18:44:16Z stassats: do i need to copy ir if i keep a xep alive?
2018-01-13T18:44:54Z stassats: e.g. (defun f68 (x) (block nil (labels ((%s (&optional r)) (f (g2) (multiple-value-call #'%s 1) (return))) (declare (inline f)) (print #'%s) (sb-kernel:%map nil #'f (if x (error "x")))))) gets fixed
2018-01-13T18:45:05Z stassats: notice (print #'%s)
2018-01-13T18:45:11Z stassats: err, i actually need to print F
2018-01-13T18:45:24Z stassats: and that doesn't fix it
2018-01-13T18:47:10Z stassats: i guess #'f will help with (lambda (x) (when x 10)), but not with (multiple-value-call #'%s 1)
2018-01-13T18:48:11Z stassats: so, how do i make stem functional?
2018-01-13T18:48:32Z stassats: a functional that prevents optimizations to whatever it references
2018-01-13T18:48:56Z stassats: or i need both #'F and IR copying...
2018-01-13T18:53:58Z stassats: i guess that's the only way, keep a stem functional and make copies
2018-01-13T18:55:57Z stassats: although, i guess the first part is already happening, the only way to gain a new call to an inlined function is through #'F
2018-01-13T18:56:30Z stassats: all actual calls should become inlined and not interfere with other calls
2018-01-13T18:56:50Z stassats: so the only problem is the surrounding lexenv getting out of sync
2018-01-13T18:59:58Z stassats: what i actually don't want to copy--the lamdbdas themselves, all the optional entries, lambda-vars, init forms, etc.
2018-01-13T19:00:23Z stassats: copying nodes doesn't sound as complicated
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2018-01-13T19:11:56Z karlosz: grab a node that dominates all other nodes, and call the constructor of the node type on its slots
2018-01-13T19:12:09Z karlosz: if a slot is also a node, do a hallow copy on that as well
2018-01-13T19:12:21Z karlosz: *shallow
2018-01-13T19:14:40Z karlosz: for tracing ir by copying though, one would have to classify which structures are destructively modified by optimization passes
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2018-01-13T19:16:17Z stassats: the copying process starts from lambda-bind and ends at lambda-return
2018-01-13T19:16:37Z stassats: and i don't think any node refers directly to any other node
2018-01-13T19:19:20Z stassats: ir1tran.lisp is 1791 lines of code, ir1tran-lambda 1363, ir1-translator 1380
2018-01-13T19:19:54Z stassats: so, the behavior of more than 4000 LoC has to be replicated backwards and forwards
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2018-01-13T19:25:50Z karlosz: stassats: no way to do a traversal through ctrans?
2018-01-13T19:26:08Z karlosz: and copy those too?
2018-01-13T19:26:29Z karlosz: that's how the ir1 graphs are printed
2018-01-13T19:29:00Z stassats: 4000 lines and you can traverse through anything
2018-01-13T19:33:53Z karlosz: but ir1tran creates the initial ir1 from sexps
2018-01-13T19:34:02Z karlosz: wouldnt copying be from ir1->ir1?
2018-01-13T19:34:32Z stassats: well, yes
2018-01-13T19:34:41Z stassats: take an EXIT node for example
2018-01-13T19:34:50Z stassats: from GO
2018-01-13T19:34:59Z stassats: it links itself back to the entry
2018-01-13T19:35:02Z stassats: and so oon
2018-01-13T19:35:13Z stassats: cl:copy-structure doesn't work here
2018-01-13T19:35:36Z stassats: and each node has to be handled like that
2018-01-13T19:36:09Z stassats: and lambdas, and the leafs they introduce, or the parent leafs, end so on
2018-01-13T19:36:17Z stassats: leaves
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2018-01-13T20:35:49Z flip214: CORRUPTION WARNING in SBCL pid 17339(tid 0x7ffff4e9f700):
2018-01-13T20:35:50Z flip214: Memory fault at (nil) (pc=0x7ffff7185dfb, sp=0x7ffff4cb05b0)
2018-01-13T20:35:50Z flip214: The integrity of this image is possibly compromised.
2018-01-13T20:35:50Z flip214: Continuing with fingers crossed.
2018-01-13T20:35:53Z flip214: grrr
2018-01-13T20:36:23Z flip214: running SAFETY 3 DEBUG 3 and then that
2018-01-13T20:36:57Z flip214: 133fb4b1ff8c9ed904de86d0db61c5df266a3690 is not git HEAD any more, perhaps I should pull
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2018-01-13T21:10:26Z nyef``: flip214: Oh, that looks fun.
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2018-01-13T21:31:02Z nyef``: flip214: Actually, how DID you get that?
2018-01-13T21:43:55Z flip214: well, I've got some REST api that parses, changes, and returns assembler files...
2018-01-13T21:44:20Z flip214: another run with 677cc08060e8fe9e3b5a24286bc75db89ac2207c did work fine
2018-01-13T21:44:40Z flip214: so perhaps I was unlucky in the git revision I was using
2018-01-13T21:46:31Z flip214: sorry, don't have any more detailed information
2018-01-13T21:47:20Z flip214: nyef``: one detail I can give is that *trace-output* changed from my REPL output to the inferior-lisp window on the first occurrence of these messages
2018-01-13T21:48:04Z nyef``: Hrm... Okay.
2018-01-13T21:48:43Z nyef``: The reason I'm asking is that I've been doing some work on the debugger recently, and if I broke something that I wasn't planning on I'd like to know so that I can fix it.
2018-01-13T21:50:40Z flip214: well, during processing of a few thousand files that happened at some time...
2018-01-13T21:50:50Z flip214: but sbcl never really stopped doing the work
2018-01-13T21:50:59Z flip214: so it's a bit hard to give more details
2018-01-13T21:51:19Z flip214: well, unless you've got a symbol name for me that I can pass to gdb for a breakpoint.
2018-01-13T21:53:05Z flip214: nyef``: ^^
2018-01-13T21:54:25Z flip214: sbcl used 19'30" of CPU time...
2018-01-13T21:54:26Z stassats: flip214: no, it's not the revision
2018-01-13T21:54:35Z stassats: it's your code being non-deterministic
2018-01-13T21:55:01Z flip214: stassats: possible.
2018-01-13T21:55:06Z stassats: so, you're unlucky that it doesn't fail again
2018-01-13T21:55:43Z flip214: but the one shared structure that gets modified during these tests is being locked relatively early on....
2018-01-13T21:56:29Z stassats: what were you tracing?
2018-01-13T21:56:35Z stassats: if the error is actually in printing
2018-01-13T21:57:25Z stassats: a recursive structure?
2018-01-13T21:58:45Z flip214: sorry, no tracing and not much printing.
2018-01-13T21:59:04Z stassats: but printing to *trace-output*
2018-01-13T21:59:05Z flip214: unless you count "writing data to the hunchentoot socket" as printing...
2018-01-13T21:59:10Z flip214: oh, that one.
2018-01-13T21:59:35Z flip214: that's a bit of debug output.... about 200k lines during totalled 100 CPU minutes
2018-01-13T21:59:54Z flip214: should I deactivate that and try again?
2018-01-13T22:00:18Z stassats: the error happened during print, so, active more of it
2018-01-13T22:02:55Z flip214: how do you know that PRINT was active? because *trace-output* got changed?
2018-01-13T22:03:23Z stassats: i don't know
2018-01-13T22:04:34Z flip214: re-enabled a few more output statements, will re-run that
2018-01-13T22:04:50Z flip214: should I put a breakpoint via GDB somewherE?
2018-01-13T22:11:59Z stassats: great, i got sig_stop_for_gc_handler to hang
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2018-01-13T22:14:56Z flip214: using a breakpoint at lisp_memory_fault_error
2018-01-13T22:15:03Z flip214: but what should I ask gdb there?
2018-01-13T22:15:11Z stassats: why?
2018-01-13T22:15:18Z stassats: what are you trying to do?
2018-01-13T22:15:44Z flip214: reproducing the  Memory fault
2018-01-13T22:16:08Z stassats: how is gdb going to help you?
2018-01-13T22:16:15Z stassats: huh, why is garbage_collect_generation calling do_pending_interrupt?
2018-01-13T22:17:50Z flip214: *I* don't know. I'm guessing wildly, hoping to encounter some details that might be interesting to somebody here.
2018-01-13T22:18:17Z stassats: well, we'll blame it on gdb then
2018-01-13T22:18:44Z stassats: just get a lisp backtrace and attach gdb when you get the fault, not before
2018-01-13T22:19:35Z stassats: ok, i guess playing with bogus objects does get garbage_collect_generation into trouble
2018-01-13T22:21:26Z stassats: but not the way it does, by doing call_into_lisp from garbage_collect_generation
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2018-01-13T22:25:35Z flip214: hmmm, you may be right again.... there might be a code path that leads to concurrent write access on a struct slot
2018-01-13T22:25:49Z flip214: no idea how that could be a problem, but I'll have to fix that anyway
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2018-01-13T22:29:13Z stassats: ok, i can reproduce somewhat reliably and manually a gc lock-up when using bogus objects
2018-01-13T22:29:20Z stassats: while the gc should just die
2018-01-13T22:29:34Z stassats: the whole thing, rather
2018-01-13T22:29:38Z flip214: no, the lock is held all the time during concurrent access
2018-01-13T22:29:58Z flip214: that's why it's so slow right now ;)
2018-01-13T22:31:15Z stassats: in corruption_warning_and_maybe_lose, how do i tell that there's a GC being currently performed?
2018-01-13T22:35:51Z flip214: PEEKing at a global flag?
2018-01-13T22:35:59Z stassats: which?
2018-01-13T22:36:25Z flip214: a new one!
2018-01-13T22:36:42Z stassats: i could come with that idea on my own
2018-01-13T22:37:20Z flip214: well, why do I need to tell you, then?
2018-01-13T22:37:21Z flip214: ;)
2018-01-13T22:40:07Z stassats: it's gc_active_p
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2018-01-13T22:45:12Z stassats: ok, good, but now "The integrity of this image is possibly compromised. Exiting." and that's it
2018-01-13T22:45:15Z stassats: where is my ldb?
2018-01-13T22:46:46Z flip214: hmmm, since doing the git pull I haven't had that problem again... 1st try went bad vs. 4 good runs
2018-01-13T22:47:03Z stassats: lldb blows
2018-01-13T22:47:08Z stassats: flip214: doesn't mean anything
2018-01-13T22:50:35Z stassats: and the bloody emacs has just crashed
2018-01-13T22:51:27Z flip214: perhaps have the machine run a memtest86+ when you're going to sleep
2018-01-13T22:51:29Z flip214: can't hurt
2018-01-13T22:51:39Z stassats: what for?
2018-01-13T22:51:57Z stassats: to increase my energy bill?
2018-01-13T22:52:28Z flip214: well, you're testing a few DRAMs for errors, and won't be running 2000 GPUs to mine bitcoins
2018-01-13T22:52:50Z flip214: don't know your energy prices, but I don't think it'll be that much
2018-01-13T22:52:57Z stassats: why would i be testing my DRAM?
2018-01-13T22:53:08Z flip214: does emacs crash often?
2018-01-13T22:53:39Z stassats: emacs crashes because it's emacs
2018-01-13T22:53:45Z flip214: oh, okay.
2018-01-13T22:53:46Z stassats: it doesn't need a reason to crash
2018-01-13T22:53:48Z flip214: I wouldn't know about that
2018-01-13T22:54:14Z stassats: emacs only wants to be free, not robust or useful
2018-01-13T22:54:15Z flip214: well, wait... did you update your microcode and/or kernel lately? there are reports that these might not be the most stable thing
2018-01-13T22:55:32Z flip214: well, have a nice (half) weekend... good luck on all your endeavours!
2018-01-13T22:56:42Z stassats: i'm able to crash a crashing gc properly, so, some luck
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2018-01-13T22:58:18Z stassats: and i can tell that it's crashing in cull_weak_hash_tables
2018-01-13T23:00:31Z stassats: what's our gcing policy on bogus objects?
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2018-01-13T23:01:35Z stassats: curiously, it doesn't always crash, just when, apparently, residing in a weak hash-table
2018-01-13T23:04:19Z flip214: fffb62dae8cc4bcceabe7960275448fbf5a92814
2018-01-13T23:04:47Z flip214:   Turn up the GC go-fast knob some more
2018-01-13T23:04:59Z flip214:   If the initial pass over a weak hash-table does not find any ....
2018-01-13T23:05:25Z stassats: flip214: that your problem?
2018-01-13T23:05:59Z stassats: dougk: no idea what's our policy on bogus data, but (let ((hash (make-hash-table :weakness :key-and-value))) (setf (gethash 10 hash) (sb-c::%make-lisp-obj 111)) (sb-ext:gc :full t)) now crashes
2018-01-13T23:06:18Z stassats: err, it doesn't yet crash, let me commit first
2018-01-13T23:06:24Z flip214: stassats: no
2018-01-13T23:06:47Z flip214: but I remembered having read about weak hash tables and GC recently, so I dug out the commit
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2018-01-13T23:14:58Z stassats: how come it doesn't crash when i put into a cons?
2018-01-13T23:17:31Z stassats: that's what i'm more surprised by
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2018-01-13T23:42:03Z nyef`` wakes up again.
2018-01-13T23:42:44Z nyef``: Pointer bogons should be ignored as non-heap data. Non-pointer bogons should tend to pitch a fit.
2018-01-13T23:43:19Z nyef``: ... Also, calling into Lisp from GC sounds fantastically dangerous with respect to safepoints.