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2017-05-23T05:33:36Z beach: Good morning everyone!
2017-05-23T05:35:28Z flip214: good morning!
2017-05-23T05:35:46Z flip214: today I was actually online before you -- hope you had a good night's sleep!
2017-05-23T05:37:19Z beach: Yes, very good!  Thanks!
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2017-05-23T11:07:04Z stassats: can we have some other mechanism for readable strings? instead of read-eval
2017-05-23T11:07:23Z stassats: although i fully expect "hey, why did you usurp my reader macro?!" anyway
2017-05-23T11:10:22Z stassats: ~ is not used in Common Lisp, and reserved to implementors.
2017-05-23T11:25:24Z Xof: This is only an issue in a sb-unicode build, right?
2017-05-23T11:25:31Z Xof: so maybe we can use “”?
2017-05-23T11:26:02Z stassats: as always, somebody is probably already using it
2017-05-23T11:27:17Z Xof: I think it would be hilarious to use ~ and see what breaks
2017-05-23T11:27:22Z Xof: start of next month
2017-05-23T11:31:43Z flip214: «»
2017-05-23T11:37:43Z Xof: or „“ - surely no-one uses that?
2017-05-23T11:44:16Z Shinmera: While we're exploring Unicode, there's also 「」
2017-05-23T11:44:48Z jackdaniel: or ® (for implementer-reserved)
2017-05-23T11:44:56Z jackdaniel: :)
2017-05-23T11:46:17Z flip214: λ might already be used... how about ¨ or ΅ ?
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2017-05-23T13:31:26Z jdz: Xof: „” are "proper" Latvian quotation marks («» are the alternative "official" ones).
2017-05-23T13:32:09Z jdz: Pretty sure MS Office does not use them for the "smart quotes" feature, so no problem.
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2017-05-23T16:20:50Z dougk_: stassats: Xof: joking aside, perhaps #"string" would do ?
2017-05-23T16:21:21Z stassats: that allowed?
2017-05-23T16:21:48Z stassats: we should research what other implementations do to minimize the number of usurped macro characters
2017-05-23T16:21:49Z dougk_: is it not? I don't know if the rest of the # dispatch macro space is reserved
2017-05-23T16:22:55Z stassats: there's no explicit wording like with ~
2017-05-23T16:23:52Z Bike: 2.4.8 has a list of # sub-macros and lists some of them as reserved for users, and #" isn't reserved for users
2017-05-23T16:24:16Z stassats: users are sneaky and don't care about that stuff
2017-05-23T16:25:39Z stassats: wild idea, using #S
2017-05-23T16:25:46Z stassats: #S(base-setring "Abc")
2017-05-23T16:31:28Z stassats: ecl: (write (make-array 10 :element-type 'fixnum) :readably t) => #A(EXT:INTEGER64 (10) (0 1 39 39 94558646378856 8391102643395586095 3418359013798015841 7810197433147747689 7507329520638452271 27988498760887397))
2017-05-23T16:32:27Z stassats: that might be a good idea, actually
2017-05-23T16:33:08Z stassats: i think the best so far
2017-05-23T16:44:38Z Xof: extending #A seems like a reasonable plan
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