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2017-05-22T03:00:54Z beach: Good morning everyone!
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2017-05-22T07:05:44Z Xof: good morning
2017-05-22T07:06:11Z Xof: release plans announcement day!  Get your patches in soon!  (scymtym, yours looked fine to me on a very cursory glance far too late last night)
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2017-05-22T10:07:18Z pookleblinky: The only time I've ever been able to use slime+sbcl without any hitches whatsoever, was when I was on Arch.
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2017-05-22T10:08:32Z pookleblinky: Debian, and especially ubuntu, have always inevitably broken stuff with version mismatches that requires a bit of effort to get around manually.
2017-05-22T10:08:46Z jackdaniel: pookleblinky: nowdays people usually take slime/swank from quicklisp
2017-05-22T10:08:56Z jackdaniel: thanks to that you avoid version mismatch on any system
2017-05-22T10:09:07Z jackdaniel: because they are synchronized
2017-05-22T10:09:10Z pookleblinky: jackdaniel: even that doesn't always work.
2017-05-22T10:09:32Z jdz: I compile SBCL from sources myself, and do not use the distribution provided package.
2017-05-22T10:10:00Z pookleblinky: jdz: that's pretty much the only way it does work reliably on an ubuntu box
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2017-05-22T16:53:41Z flip214: I can't start sbcl on a machine anymore...
2017-05-22T16:53:57Z flip214: when it loads slime, it crashes with memory corruption messages.
2017-05-22T16:54:09Z stassats: start sbcl or load slime?
2017-05-22T16:54:29Z flip214: http://paste.lisp.org/display/347303
2017-05-22T16:54:39Z flip214: well, I load slime via .sbclrc.
2017-05-22T16:54:56Z flip214: of course, I can use --no-userinit, and try to upgrade slime via QL from the console or so.
2017-05-22T16:55:26Z stassats: 2.9?
2017-05-22T16:56:40Z flip214: yeah, I didn't upgrade the QL libs for some time, because it all "just worked"
2017-05-22T16:56:50Z flip214: and now that I want to upgrade it ain't easy any more.
2017-05-22T16:57:52Z stassats: don't reuse slime fasls, for one thing
2017-05-22T16:57:54Z flip214: not loading the slime contribs seems to help
2017-05-22T16:58:07Z stassats: and don't use ancient slime, too
2017-05-22T16:58:10Z flip214: I already removed the whole ~/.slime/fasl and all other cache directories
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2017-05-22T18:08:47Z |3b|: someone on #lisp managed to run out of immobile space by creating ~256k keywords (at least as far as i can tell, that is the problem), if that is an interesting data point for sbcl devs
2017-05-22T18:11:43Z stassats: that's a lot of keywords
2017-05-22T18:13:12Z |3b|: yeah, i suggested it was a bad idea even aside from the sbcl specific problems :)
2017-05-22T18:14:20Z |3b|: also why it just got a comment on IRC rather than a bug report
2017-05-22T18:18:29Z attila_lendvai: |3b|: bug reports are much harder to report than a question on IRC. and launchpad doesn't help making it simple...
2017-05-22T18:23:29Z |3b|: attila_lendvai: i usually file bug reports when it seems appropriate (or even when i'm on wrong sleep schedule compared to the people on IRC who would fix it)
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2017-05-22T19:12:44Z aeth: The only way I can think of where you could use that many keywords is if you're using SBCL as an database.
2017-05-22T19:16:16Z |3b|: even then probably the wrong thing to use
2017-05-22T19:16:54Z stassats: any INTERN at runtime is basically losing
2017-05-22T19:20:03Z aeth: |3b|: Yes, but to use SBCL as a database properly, you'd need to know that you're using SBCL as a database.
2017-05-22T19:20:13Z aeth: I think most databases like this are accidental.
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