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2016-08-28T16:06:10Z shka_: greetings
2016-08-28T16:06:29Z shka_: i'm trying to build wrappers around qml/qt quick
2016-08-28T16:06:52Z shka_: i thought that i was doing fine
2016-08-28T16:06:59Z shka_: i can load my library with cffi
2016-08-28T16:07:04Z shka_: and functions work
2016-08-28T16:07:05Z shka_: however
2016-08-28T16:07:12Z shka_: i stumbled upon this:
2016-08-28T16:07:20Z shka_: arithmetic error FLOATING-POINT-OVERFLOW signalled
2016-08-28T16:07:33Z shka_: and i'm not sure what sbcl is trying to say to me
2016-08-28T16:07:43Z stassats: commonqt has that solved
2016-08-28T16:08:09Z shka_: (cffi:foreign-funcall "LispQmlApplicationEngine_loadLocalFile"
2016-08-28T16:08:10Z shka_:                         :pointer (read-impl obj)
2016-08-28T16:08:12Z shka_:                         :string path
2016-08-28T16:08:13Z shka_:                         :void)
2016-08-28T16:08:36Z shka_: stassats: correct me if i'm wrong, but commonqt does not offer qml bindings, does it?
2016-08-28T16:09:08Z Bike: probably need to mask float traps
2016-08-28T16:09:19Z shka_: perhaps
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2016-08-28T16:09:51Z stassats: it provides everything qt has
2016-08-28T16:10:01Z stassats: albeit only for qt4 for the time being
2016-08-28T16:10:16Z shka_: hmmmm
2016-08-28T16:10:22Z shka_: how could i miss it?
2016-08-28T16:13:14Z stassats: it'd be better to wait for qt5 support in commonqt, but there is no knowing when that happens
2016-08-28T16:14:28Z stassats: unless you just limit yourself completely to qml and javascript and don't actually do any c++ style programming from cl
2016-08-28T16:15:15Z shka_: stassats: my idea is that i want to have something dead simple
2016-08-28T16:15:23Z shka_: i don't need whole qt
2016-08-28T16:15:33Z shka_: i just need very basic way to put stuff on screen
2016-08-28T16:15:43Z shka_: anyway
2016-08-28T16:15:54Z shka_: i tried to grep source code of commonqt for qml
2016-08-28T16:15:58Z shka_: no look
2016-08-28T16:16:01Z shka_: *no luck
2016-08-28T16:16:08Z stassats: why would you grep?
2016-08-28T16:16:16Z stassats: what would that tell you?
2016-08-28T16:16:39Z shka_: well, i was under impression that commonqt has some qml bindings
2016-08-28T16:16:50Z stassats: it has bindings to qt
2016-08-28T16:16:53Z stassats: to everything in qt
2016-08-28T16:17:11Z shka_: well, that's obviously not true
2016-08-28T16:17:23Z shka_: qwebsocket
2016-08-28T16:17:24Z stassats: well, you obviously don't know how it works, do you?
2016-08-28T16:17:51Z shka_: to be honest, not
2016-08-28T16:18:27Z shka_: enlighten me
2016-08-28T16:18:59Z stassats: this is out of scope for #sbcl
2016-08-28T16:19:05Z stassats: just read its documentation
2016-08-28T16:19:49Z shka_: you are increadible helpfull
2016-08-28T16:19:52Z shka_: thanks
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2016-08-28T16:40:19Z shka_: Bike: anyway, since working with commonqt is more complicated than i want to, what did you mean by "probably need to mask float traps"
2016-08-28T16:40:21Z shka_: ?
2016-08-28T16:41:30Z stassats: shka_: https://github.com/commonqt/commonqt/blob/master/ffi.lisp#L294
2016-08-28T16:42:05Z shka_: unfortunatly i can't wait for commonqt becoming qt5
2016-08-28T16:42:35Z stassats: qt4 had qml too, but different enough that it'd probably be a bad idea to use it now
2016-08-28T16:42:37Z shka_: and i would rather avoid writing C++ code just for qui
2016-08-28T16:42:49Z shka_: well, indeed
2016-08-28T16:42:54Z stassats: you can just not use qml
2016-08-28T16:43:15Z shka_: nah, it is not about qml
2016-08-28T16:43:39Z shka_: i just want gui that works reasonable well, without large ammounts of ffi magic
2016-08-28T16:44:05Z shka_: my run with commonqt was not very smooth
2016-08-28T16:44:19Z shka_: it simply does not tell me what i'm doing wrong
2016-08-28T16:44:34Z stassats: that's c++ for you
2016-08-28T16:44:46Z shka_: so i figured out that writing simple bindings JUST for qml would be way to go
2016-08-28T16:44:55Z shka_: believe it or not, i'm c++ programmer
2016-08-28T16:45:22Z shka_: but connecting C++ to other language is a pain
2016-08-28T16:46:00Z stassats: anyhow, commonqt is the best gui option cl has right now
2016-08-28T16:46:11Z shka_: probabbly yes
2016-08-28T16:46:38Z shka_: which is sad
2016-08-28T16:46:47Z shka_: on, i won't spam this channel
2016-08-28T16:48:54Z stassats: sad? i find using qt from cl with commonqt to be a better experience than doing that from C++
2016-08-28T16:49:14Z stassats: but that applies to just about everything c++
2016-08-28T16:49:16Z shka_: well, i'm surprised
2016-08-28T16:49:28Z shka_: for instance
2016-08-28T16:49:36Z shka_: how do you handle exceptions?
2016-08-28T16:49:50Z stassats: what exceptions?
2016-08-28T16:49:57Z shka_: c++ exceptions
2016-08-28T16:50:14Z stassats: why would one do that?
2016-08-28T16:50:42Z shka_: beacuse: (#_exec *app*) -> -1
2016-08-28T16:51:14Z shka_: i know what i did wrong
2016-08-28T16:51:30Z stassats: that's because you started the main loop twice, can't handle that
2016-08-28T16:51:35Z shka_: i know
2016-08-28T16:51:40Z shka_: but the problem is
2016-08-28T16:51:52Z shka_: i know because i stumbled upon this before
2016-08-28T16:52:09Z shka_: not because i got reasonable message
2016-08-28T16:52:19Z stassats: it actually does produce a message
2016-08-28T16:52:28Z shka_: what?
2016-08-28T16:52:30Z shka_: how
2016-08-28T16:52:38Z shka_: i would save my a lot of time :D
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2016-08-28T16:52:49Z stassats: just prints it
2016-08-28T16:53:18Z stassats: "QCoreApplication::exec: The event loop is already running"
2016-08-28T16:53:23Z stassats: just tried it
2016-08-28T16:54:16Z shka_: hmmm
2016-08-28T16:54:26Z shka_: it is not like that here
2016-08-28T16:54:32Z shka_: other thread?
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2016-08-28T16:59:00Z stassats: just stdout
2016-08-28T16:59:13Z stassats: (and it's not even an exception)
2016-08-28T17:04:43Z stassats: unless you have a fully common lisp GUI, you won't really get good condition support
2016-08-28T17:05:02Z stassats: and look at mcclim, it's so poor it's unusable
2016-08-28T17:05:32Z shka_: i think that swank eats stdot
2016-08-28T17:05:35Z shka_: *stdout
2016-08-28T17:05:45Z shka_: will try to figure it out
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2016-08-28T17:05:49Z stassats: it shouldn't, did you look in *inferior-lisp*?
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2016-08-28T17:06:17Z shka_: ha! you make me feel like any idiot
2016-08-28T17:06:23Z shka_: it is there
2016-08-28T17:06:30Z shka_: ok, this looks way better
2016-08-28T17:07:33Z shka_: perhaps i should give qdeclarative a shot
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