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2016-08-02T09:30:31Z stassats: trying to abbreviate strings in backtraces, can't decide on the best output
2016-08-02T09:30:38Z stassats: "abc..." isn't really great
2016-08-02T09:30:50Z stassats: (car "abc"...) is better, but may be confusing
2016-08-02T09:34:26Z stassats: ok, i'll settle on "abc"..., but make it cut off only large strings
2016-08-02T09:35:01Z flip214:    "abc"+40      if 40 chars got removed? would at least leave data about original length
2016-08-02T09:35:27Z stassats: flip214: nice idea, but that doesn't happen with #(a b c) or '(a b c)
2016-08-02T09:36:08Z stassats: and "abc"+40 is readable
2016-08-02T09:40:34Z stassats: flip214: and this is just to stop the backtrace from going nuts on large strings, don't have to be extra nice, that's a job for a graphical debugger
2016-08-02T09:41:30Z stassats: i'll settle on (* *print-length* 100) for now
2016-08-02T09:45:05Z stassats: with the default *print-length* being 12, that's 1200, few strings you want to look at are that long
2016-08-02T09:47:40Z stassats: could be #<abbreviated-string 40 "abc"..>
2016-08-02T09:47:48Z flip214: too long ;)
2016-08-02T09:48:16Z flip214: if you want it unreadable, «» would fit the bill ;)
2016-08-02T09:48:25Z flip214: or <<abc>+40>
2016-08-02T09:48:37Z stassats: flip214: some joker can have a reader macro for «
2016-08-02T09:48:37Z flip214: though that's not aesthetic
2016-08-02T09:48:46Z flip214: yeah, everything is possible.
2016-08-02T09:49:09Z stassats: well, you can't have it with dots, or with #<, those are explicitly unreadable
2016-08-02T09:49:26Z stassats: so, the backtrace for (car (make-string 10000 :initial-element #\a)) is now beter
2016-08-02T09:49:37Z flip214: you could also have   )"abc"+40(       (OUCH)
2016-08-02T09:49:38Z stassats: but the error is still too large
2016-08-02T09:49:53Z stassats: flip214: "oh well, the debugger is bonkers too"
2016-08-02T09:50:36Z stassats: #(a b c ) => #<(SIMPLE-VECTOR 3) {1007B5F12F}>
2016-08-02T09:50:41Z stassats: without *print-array*
2016-08-02T09:50:59Z stassats: so, #<(string 10) "abcdefg">?
2016-08-02T09:52:36Z stassats: that looks good to me, i'll make the change and wait for anybody to complain, limiting the length to (* *print-length* 10), not 100
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2016-08-02T18:45:00Z trinque: how might I go about building an sbcl statically linked against glibc?
2016-08-02T18:45:22Z trinque: I have a musl device I'd like to build sbcl for, but don't have a lisp there to cross-compile
2016-08-02T18:45:56Z trinque: I do have an sbcl on another glibc device with same hardware arch
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2016-08-02T18:56:56Z stassats: sbcl doesn't work great with this musl thing
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2016-08-02T19:11:47Z trinque: works just fine with openbsd's libc
2016-08-02T19:12:13Z trinque: wasn't the question though; I have other static-linked glibc items on musl which run
2016-08-02T19:13:37Z stassats: openbsd libc is not musl
2016-08-02T19:26:55Z trinque: noshit.jpg
2016-08-02T19:27:00Z trinque: what does that have to do with statically linking glibc?
2016-08-02T19:27:37Z stassats: good luck
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