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2015-02-28T10:19:29Z jackdaniel: I've found ,that same problem is related to sbcl: if you deftype recursive data type, subtypep raises #<SB-KERNEL::CONTROL-STACK-EXHAUSTED {1004E970F3}>
2015-02-28T10:19:57Z jackdaniel: ie: (deftype proper-list () '(OR (CONS T PROPER-LIST) NULL))
2015-02-28T10:20:01Z jackdaniel: (subtypep 'proper-list t)
2015-02-28T10:22:20Z Bike: 's not standard cl. " Recursive expansion of the type specifier returned as the expansion must terminate, including the expansion of type specifiers which are nested within the expansion. "
2015-02-28T10:25:35Z jackdaniel: thanks
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2015-02-28T17:37:46Z scymtym: i would like to commit http://paste.lisp.org/display/146009. any objections?
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2015-02-28T17:40:13Z stassats: when was the last time something got deprecated?
2015-02-28T17:41:22Z scymtym: 2012 maybe
2015-02-28T17:42:20Z scymtym: after these commits, i would like to make some stuff in sb-bsd-sockets officially deprecated
2015-02-28T17:42:50Z stassats: and when will stuff be finally erased?
2015-02-28T17:43:20Z scymtym: depends on how closely we follow the recommendation of keeping in each state for a year
2015-02-28T17:44:07Z scymtym: i would like to remove the things that move to :final now in april or so
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2015-02-28T21:44:34Z Eschatologist: I've noticed that SBCL is only posting Linux binary packages for x86_64, is this a matter of getting a maintainer access to other hardware?
2015-02-28T21:48:10Z Eschatologist: Also, the ARM build defaults to armv5; armv6 with -ffloat-abi=hard is probably a better target these days. Or maybe there should be multiple ARM configs to express these axes of difference among ARM platforms.
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2015-02-28T22:19:09Z stassats`: better for whom?
2015-02-28T22:22:50Z eschatologist: I think most people who are trying to use sbcl on ARM are probably either using an SBC like RPi or ODROID, or a mobile device, all of which tend to have armv6 + hard-floats as a baseline. I'm not suggesting removing other options, just providing a suite of choices rather than just defaulting to armv5 + soft-floats.
2015-02-28T22:27:32Z stassats`: it does not default to soft floats
2015-02-28T22:27:49Z stassats`: it doesn't even support them
2015-02-28T22:31:52Z stassats`: and which instructions exactly are you missing from armv6?
2015-02-28T22:39:02Z eschatologist: Ah, I assumed the C compiler on ARM Linux did default to them, because I'd seen other software explicitly pass -ffloat-abi=hard
2015-02-28T22:39:11Z eschatologist: (I'm not normally a Linux person.)
2015-02-28T22:41:14Z eschatologist: Also, different ARM instruction sets can result in different compiler optimizations, so it's generally good to tell a C compiler just what CPU you're using. How much of the C core in SBCL affects its performance significantly?
2015-02-28T22:52:24Z nyef: The GC takes a chunk, but otherwise most of the code is in Lisp.
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2015-02-28T22:57:45Z eschatologist: Thanks.
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