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2015-02-14T01:49:35Z nyef: Hrm. I have an angle on making lp#1044465 not scrozzle itself with that one AVER, but I don't yet have a good angle on making it not generate broken code.
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2015-02-14T03:26:29Z nyef: So, I found a possible angle on the not generating broken code thing, but I also did a bit more digging into the code structure of the failing case, and managed to come up with a nasty scenario which breaks my idea for fixing up the analysis. /-:
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2015-02-14T03:46:16Z jrm: nyef: Any luck?
2015-02-14T03:46:36Z nyef: jrm: It's still running. /-:
2015-02-14T03:46:53Z jrm: wth?
2015-02-14T03:47:36Z nyef: I'm using a fairly basic config, and almost no interaction with it save for occasionally prodding it to see if it's died.
2015-02-14T03:47:46Z jrm: Clearly something unique to my setup a
2015-02-14T03:47:49Z jrm: oops
2015-02-14T03:47:57Z jrm: It sounds like something unique to my setup.
2015-02-14T03:48:17Z nyef: Yeah. Which means that the next step would be for you to try and narrow down what that uniqueness might be.
2015-02-14T03:48:33Z jrm: Yup
2015-02-14T03:48:45Z jrm: Any hints from http://ftfl.ca/misc/stumpwmrc
2015-02-14T03:48:52Z nyef: Either it's software that you're using on a semi-regular basis or it's something in your initfile.
2015-02-14T03:48:58Z nyef: Or a combination of the two.
2015-02-14T03:51:00Z nyef: You have a number of commands, some things that look like shell-script fragments, the occasional run-shell-command...
2015-02-14T03:52:01Z nyef: Oh, here's a thought: What if it's a resource leak with your *screen-mode-line-format* ?
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2015-02-14T03:52:47Z jrm: OK, I'll remove that.
2015-02-14T03:53:15Z nyef: I was more thinking "run it in a loop and see if it triggers an immediate fail", but that's another angle.
2015-02-14T03:54:06Z jrm: Well, I'll try that first since it could give a quick answer.
2015-02-14T03:57:27Z jrm: Is this something like what you had in mind? http://ftfl.ca/paste/loop-screen-mode-line-format.html
2015-02-14T03:57:48Z nyef: Umm... No?
2015-02-14T03:58:09Z nyef: The implicit semantic is that at some point the RUN-SHELL-COMMAND form is evaluated.
2015-02-14T04:02:36Z jrm: ? http://ftfl.ca/paste/take-2.html
2015-02-14T04:03:19Z nyef: No, more of the (dotimes (i 10000) (run-shell-command "cat /tmp/ml-info.txt" t)) sort of thing.
2015-02-14T04:03:35Z jrm: k
2015-02-14T04:03:59Z nyef: Umm... Either it's really bleeding slow to do, or I just locked it up doing basically that in an eval prompt (C-t :)
2015-02-14T04:04:36Z jrm: oh!?
2015-02-14T04:04:56Z nyef: We may have a winner.
2015-02-14T04:05:04Z jrm: nice!
2015-02-14T04:05:21Z nyef: Or we may have ANOTHER failure mode. (-:
2015-02-14T04:09:01Z nyef: Ugh. Damned thing. I haven't locked up the VM, but it looks like stumpwm has the keyboard focus, the X server is set DontZap, and I can't send a VT-switch to the VM because the HOST X server gets it first...
2015-02-14T04:09:37Z nyef sends an ACPI shutdown.
2015-02-14T04:10:04Z nyef: There may or may not be a log file from this.
2015-02-14T04:11:37Z jrm crosses fingers and sacrifices a goat.
2015-02-14T04:11:45Z nyef: ... No log file. )-:
2015-02-14T04:12:20Z jrm: shit I wasted a good goat
2015-02-14T04:12:47Z nyef: Cook it for dinner, then?
2015-02-14T04:13:01Z jrm: :)
2015-02-14T04:26:32Z nyef: I think I'm going to give up for now.
2015-02-14T04:26:36Z nyef: Any luck on your side?
2015-02-14T04:28:21Z jrm: Got distracted.  I'm in AST, so I'm happy to give up for the evening.
2015-02-14T04:28:30Z jrm: ...er morning here
2015-02-14T04:29:07Z nyef: Mmm. It's 11:30 here in EST.
2015-02-14T04:29:09Z nyef: PM.
2015-02-14T04:29:53Z jrm: Yeah, we're an hour ahead of EST.
2015-02-14T04:30:02Z nyef: Ahh.
2015-02-14T04:30:23Z nyef: The right edge of Canada?
2015-02-14T04:30:33Z jrm: Yup
2015-02-14T04:30:47Z nyef: Cool.
2015-02-14T04:30:56Z jrm: Only Newfoundland is further east.
2015-02-14T04:31:02Z jrm: in North America
2015-02-14T04:31:20Z nyef: Heh. I was going to say "before you get to the other side of the pond"?
2015-02-14T04:39:22Z nyef: Oh. DUH. I'm looking at a broken LIFETIME analysis. Screw trying to work this thing out from basic principles, the next step is to grab my stack of compiler books!
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