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2014-10-29T16:36:43Z Krystof:    191554     26068 ( 13.6%)   165286 ( 86.3%)  256   78.1% %%MAKE-UNION-TYPE-CACHED-CACHE
2014-10-29T16:36:45Z Krystof: yes, well
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2014-10-29T18:09:05Z stassats: hmm, check-wrapper-validity causes a mem fault at #x9
2014-10-29T18:09:16Z stassats: that seems awfully familiar
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2014-10-29T18:11:30Z stassats: wonderful, now i get memory errors pretty reliably
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2014-10-29T18:12:06Z stassats: in csubtypep, invalud object is not a (simple-vector 4)
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2014-10-29T18:57:47Z stassats: and it isn't caused by my changes, good, now to isolate
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2014-10-29T20:22:00Z stassats: looks like something's wrong with change-class and method caching
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2014-10-29T20:46:11Z Krystof: if you're changing the class of an instance while that instance is involved in method dispatch, you will lose
2014-10-29T20:46:54Z stassats: don't think that happens
2014-10-29T20:47:05Z nyef: If you're changing the class of an instance, you're probably doing something wrong in the first place.
2014-10-29T20:47:46Z stassats: writing programs is probably a wrong thing to do
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2014-10-29T20:48:16Z nyef: Quite often, yes.
2014-10-29T20:49:17Z stassats: made a semi-isolated test case
2014-10-29T20:50:14Z nyef: "You're trying to ship this much data from A to B, and you're doing something involving telecoms and blah, blah, blah... Why don't you just courier backup tapes between the two locations? No crazy development effort required, ample bandwidth, and it's cheaper to do so on a daily basis than to pay for the leased line!"
2014-10-29T20:52:43Z stassats: and it involves a metaclass
2014-10-29T20:53:53Z stassats: made a completely isolated test case, now to reduce
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2014-10-29T21:08:13Z stassats: no metaclasses, actually
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2014-10-29T21:19:32Z stassats: actually, there's no change-class
2014-10-29T21:19:49Z stassats: i forgot that bit, i do a copy-change-class kind of thing
2014-10-29T21:21:21Z stassats: could be because i'm using slot-value-using-class with the slot definition of a parent class
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2014-10-29T21:24:54Z stassats: that looks like it
2014-10-29T21:25:01Z nyef: That does sound more than a little dodgy.
2014-10-29T21:25:53Z stassats: so, it seems i'm using a non existing slot
2014-10-29T21:26:13Z stassats: and sbcl happily accepts that, resulting in a mem fault sometimes
2014-10-29T21:27:03Z pkhuong: stassats: even at high debug?
2014-10-29T21:27:10Z stassats: debug 2
2014-10-29T21:28:33Z stassats: and i think i fixed that in an another tree of my code, let me see if there were any gc corruptions of that kind since then
2014-10-29T21:29:30Z stassats: nope, that's it
2014-10-29T21:29:38Z stassats: i finally found the source of my gc issues
2014-10-29T21:33:54Z stassats: when i do standard-instance-access, it gives me an out of bounds error, but not with s-v-u-c
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2014-10-29T21:42:47Z stassats: i guess there's some kind of optimize slot-value-using-class
2014-10-29T21:44:42Z stassats: right, take a look at make-optimized-std-slot-value-using-class-method-function
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2014-10-29T22:08:56Z stassats: so, do we want it to be fast and dangerous?
2014-10-29T22:09:01Z stassats: how much does safety 0 bring?
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2014-10-29T22:33:01Z stassats: but i don't really care how many milli-seconds it saved, since i spent hours on this bloody corruption
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2014-10-29T22:50:01Z rszeno: hi
2014-10-29T22:50:37Z rszeno: is possible to build sbcl without sb-bsd-sockets?
2014-10-29T22:52:06Z nyef: To what end?
2014-10-29T22:52:33Z nyef: (And yes, it is possible to build SBCL without any of the "contrib"s, but you tend to lose out a bit when you do so.)
2014-10-29T22:53:07Z rszeno: i have an error something about inet6
2014-10-29T22:53:07Z stassats: sb-bsd-sockets isn't a part of sbcl
2014-10-29T22:53:39Z rszeno: i don't have problem if sockets doesn't work
2014-10-29T22:53:49Z stassats: well, then just disregard the error
2014-10-29T22:54:00Z rszeno: yes
2014-10-29T22:54:41Z rszeno: is a x86-64 build on a 32 system where sbcl already work for 32
2014-10-29T22:54:52Z stassats: that doesn't matter
2014-10-29T22:55:36Z rszeno: for me does matter, :)
2014-10-29T22:57:00Z rszeno: i tryed --without-sb-bsd-sockets and seems that it doesn't work, probably i did something wrong
2014-10-29T22:57:17Z stassats: that option doesn't make any sense
2014-10-29T22:57:40Z rszeno: nice, then tell me something to make sense
2014-10-29T22:57:44Z stassats: just close your eyes and pretend nothing happened, you will get your desired result
2014-10-29T22:59:31Z rszeno: stassats, i'm pretty irritated and i try to stay calm
2014-10-29T22:59:54Z rszeno: if can help do it, else stop this kind of humor
2014-10-29T23:00:04Z scymtym_: rszeno: on which operating system are you trying build sbcl?
2014-10-29T23:00:25Z rszeno: debian, a squeeze i486
2014-10-29T23:00:58Z rszeno: well is a amd64 but is installed as i486
2014-10-29T23:01:08Z stassats: rszeno: exactly what i'm telling you is the solution for your initial problem
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2014-10-29T23:01:37Z stassats: if you don't understand that, then you can be irritated, that's up to you
2014-10-29T23:01:48Z scymtym_: rszeno: can you post the error message at http://paste.lisp.org/ and paste the resulting url here?
2014-10-29T23:02:23Z rszeno: stassats, it stop compilling after it test fail in bsd-sockets
2014-10-29T23:02:52Z rszeno: if i ignore it how i can make it continue?
2014-10-29T23:03:19Z rszeno: scymtym the inet6 error?
2014-10-29T23:03:26Z scymtym_: yes
2014-10-29T23:03:27Z stassats: does it really stop?
2014-10-29T23:03:28Z scymtym_: i'm trying in fixing the problem in sbcl, if we can find it, not making your build continue
2014-10-29T23:03:39Z scymtym_: s/trying/interested in/
2014-10-29T23:03:45Z rszeno: i think there is no support for ipv6 in kernel
2014-10-29T23:04:16Z scymtym_: that may or may not be the case, but we cannot the problem without the error message or better complete build log
2014-10-29T23:04:24Z scymtym_: s/cannot/cannot fix/
2014-10-29T23:04:26Z stassats: did you build the kernel yourself?
2014-10-29T23:04:34Z rszeno: no
2014-10-29T23:04:52Z stassats: then it would have ipv6 support
2014-10-29T23:04:54Z rszeno: i just try to have a sbcl with 64 bits
2014-10-29T23:05:15Z fe[nl]ix: rszeno: why are you trying to compile sbcl at all ?
2014-10-29T23:05:42Z rszeno: i want to try a 64 bits sbcl
2014-10-29T23:05:52Z rszeno: 32 is working fine
2014-10-29T23:05:56Z stassats: this appears to be fruitless
2014-10-29T23:06:06Z rszeno: depend
2014-10-29T23:06:23Z fe[nl]ix: you can download the compiled binaries from sbcl.org
2014-10-29T23:06:36Z fe[nl]ix: see http://sbcl.org/platform-table.html
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2014-10-29T23:07:08Z rszeno: will work on debian squeeze?
2014-10-29T23:07:25Z fe[nl]ix: should work
2014-10-29T23:07:32Z fe[nl]ix: I guess
2014-10-29T23:08:31Z rszeno: i will try and i will also try to recompile and post error on the paste but will take some time
2014-10-29T23:09:04Z scymtym_: rszeno: thanks
2014-10-29T23:09:12Z rszeno: sorry stassats, i missunderstand what you said
2014-10-29T23:09:41Z rszeno: i thank you, all of you, :)
2014-10-29T23:09:57Z stassats: even if ipv6 tests do not pass, the rest of sb-bsd-sockets will work
2014-10-29T23:10:37Z nyef: Well, SHOULD work.
2014-10-29T23:11:15Z rszeno: my concern is about lib64 locations
2014-10-29T23:11:45Z stassats: that shouldn't be your concern
2014-10-29T23:11:45Z nyef: Isn't that what the appropriate ldso and LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for?
2014-10-29T23:12:20Z stassats: LD_LIBRARY_PATH is rarely a good idea
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2014-10-29T23:12:58Z nyef: True, very rarely.
2014-10-29T23:12:58Z rszeno: is not multiarch, is a 486 installation
2014-10-29T23:13:13Z stassats: what? gosh
2014-10-29T23:13:18Z rszeno: :)
2014-10-29T23:13:43Z stassats: and you are not actually building a 64-bit sbcl
2014-10-29T23:14:29Z stassats: as in, you can't
2014-10-29T23:14:31Z rszeno: i did, cross-compilation, passing -m64 to gcc
2014-10-29T23:14:56Z rszeno: whole chain, linker ...
2014-10-29T23:14:59Z nyef: And the appropriate SBCL_ARCH noise?
2014-10-29T23:15:10Z rszeno: is x86-64
2014-10-29T23:15:36Z rszeno: i have libs for 64 installed
2014-10-29T23:15:52Z stassats: a) you don't touch gcc options b) you can't run 64 bit binaries
2014-10-29T23:17:16Z rszeno: why a) and b) is not true, 64 bits bin are working
2014-10-29T23:17:25Z stassats: then it's not i486
2014-10-29T23:17:29Z rszeno: i mean why? a)
2014-10-29T23:18:04Z nyef: So... it's a 64-bit kernel, a primarily 32-bit userland, and some 64-bit libs layered on top?
2014-10-29T23:18:04Z rszeno: stassats, is not a i486, is amd A6 but linux arch is 486
2014-10-29T23:18:59Z rszeno: yes, a x86 installed on a x86-64 machine
2014-10-29T23:19:00Z nyef: Feels like pain waiting to happen... or already happening. Why not a 64-bit chroot if you're going to play such games?
2014-10-29T23:19:29Z stassats: i feel like rszeno just wants to waste everybody's time, included his own
2014-10-29T23:19:57Z rszeno: disc is already full with old stuff and this will not live longer to worst the complication of changing arch
2014-10-29T23:21:36Z rszeno: i can't find sbcl binaries
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2014-10-29T23:32:40Z scymtym_: rszeno: the cells in the table at the bottom of http://sbcl.org/platform-table.html are download links
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2014-10-29T23:33:50Z rszeno: scymtym_, thank you, i didn't notice
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