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2014-10-24T02:03:03Z lisp-beginner: I just finished writing my first real lisp program.  I got sbcl to write out a standalone binary using sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die, but I was surprised to find that "./myProgram --help" displayed sbcl's help instead of running my program with the "--help" flag.  Is there any way I can stop sbcl from eating the --help flag?
2014-10-24T02:07:59Z scymtym_: lisp-beginner: add :save-runtime-options t to the save-lisp-and-die call
2014-10-24T02:08:53Z scymtym_: the documentation string of save-lisp-and-die says about :save-runtime-options: "This also inhibits normal runtime option processing, causing all command line arguments to be passed to the toplevel."
2014-10-24T02:30:48Z pkhuong: lisp-beginner: you might want to ask #lisp next time
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2014-10-24T12:48:47Z qbit: http://akb.io/sbcl_cl-redis.html <-- bummer
2014-10-24T12:49:34Z qbit: heap exhaustion when doing (ql:quickload 'cl-redis)
2014-10-24T12:51:49Z qbit: should also mention it's on openbsd :D
2014-10-24T12:51:50Z qbit: joshe: o/
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2014-10-24T13:01:51Z |3b|: qbit: might try loading it directly in asdf instead of ql, so it prints out more information before it dies
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2014-10-24T13:17:46Z qbit: |3b|: k
2014-10-24T13:19:40Z qbit has never used asdf directly
2014-10-24T13:25:26Z |3b|: (asdf:load-system 'cl-redis)
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2014-10-24T13:31:06Z qbit: oh ha
2014-10-24T13:31:08Z qbit: thanks
2014-10-24T13:33:41Z qbit: http://akb.io/sbcl_asdf_cl-redis.html
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2014-10-24T13:41:18Z |3b|: qbit: try (asdf:load-systems 'rutils 'usocket 'flexi-streams 'babel) then (room) and (sb-ext:gc :full t) and (room) again and then (asdf:load-system 'cl-redis)
2014-10-24T13:42:19Z |3b|: doesn't looks like anything odd at the specific place where it ran out of memory, so might just be stuff taking up too much space in general
2014-10-24T13:43:05Z |3b|: though doesn't seem like something that would take >400MB to load, so probably something isn't quite rights omewhere
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2014-10-24T13:47:35Z joshe: qbit neglected to mention that he's probably the only person in the world using a threaded sbcl on openbsd
2014-10-24T13:48:01Z joshe: did you try it in a normal build qbit?
2014-10-24T13:48:57Z qbit: this is non-threaded
2014-10-24T13:49:07Z qbit: just regular "sh make.sh"
2014-10-24T13:49:11Z qbit: http://akb.io/sbcl-gc.html
2014-10-24T13:49:16Z joshe: ah
2014-10-24T13:49:43Z qbit: had to quit using hunchentoot inside stump because it was hecka slow :D
2014-10-24T13:53:53Z joshe: interesting, on the ancient sbcl in ports, I see minimal memory usage
2014-10-24T13:54:17Z joshe: it did get up to a couple hundred MB which building via quicklisp though
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2014-10-24T13:59:31Z |3b| doesn't see anything in that def-cmd macro that should be using up lots of memory, maybe try adding a call to ROOM to that and see if it is anyway, or if something used it all up earlier that doesn't print anything
2014-10-24T14:00:10Z |3b|: qbit: have you loaded that system in older sbcl on that platform?
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2014-10-24T14:05:40Z qbit: i can try it
2014-10-24T14:05:44Z qbit: pretty sure it works tho
2014-10-24T14:11:28Z qbit: ha, nope
2014-10-24T14:11:30Z qbit: same issue
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2014-10-24T14:30:12Z qbit: would the same outputs from before be helpful?
2014-10-24T14:34:44Z |3b|: on older sbcl? probably not if it also failed
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2014-10-24T17:57:08Z flip214: is there a way to dump a nested data structure to a fasl file for later (independent) reading and analyzing?
2014-10-24T17:57:40Z flip214: structs including hash-tables etc., so nothing that can simply be printed READably
2014-10-24T17:57:44Z Bike: with make-load-form and all?
2014-10-24T17:58:49Z flip214: thanks, I will try that
2014-10-24T17:59:34Z Bike: basically if you have a constant in your compiled code it should dump, and it's supposed to work with circularities
2014-10-24T17:59:41Z nyef: Anything with a definition of "similarity" should dump quite easily.
2014-10-24T18:00:19Z nyef: And MAKE-LOAD-FORM is the mechanism to use to define similarity for objects.
2014-10-24T18:00:30Z pkhuong: compile-file on (consume-data '#.(lookup-data))
2014-10-24T18:01:07Z nyef: This is also portable, thus more a #lisp question than a #sbcl question. d-:
2014-10-24T18:01:16Z qbit: |3b|: k, yeah it was an older version that failed as well
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2014-10-24T20:49:51Z prxq: there used to be an sbcl-internals subwiki at cliki.net. It has been gone for a while now. Any reason for it? Did you know it was gone?
2014-10-24T20:52:11Z nyef: I knew that it was gone, but beyond that I have no idea what happened or if any of the data still exists.
2014-10-24T20:53:34Z pkhuong: I think someone mirrored it a long time ago
2014-10-24T20:53:40Z pkhuong: stassats might know something
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2014-10-24T21:13:04Z Krystof: I think archive.org has the content (though not the underlying data)
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2014-10-24T21:17:00Z prxq: is there interest on the part of you, the developers, to have that wiki up again?
2014-10-24T21:27:24Z foom: I think the general idea was to migrate the content into the docs that come with the source
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2014-10-24T21:35:52Z pkhuong: prxq: no one ever used the wikiness
2014-10-24T21:37:02Z prxq: ok.
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