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2014-10-23T13:14:56Z stassats: something strange is going on with with-output-to-string
2014-10-23T13:15:07Z stassats: like i get type mismatches based on the length, doesn't make much sense
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2014-10-23T14:46:52Z nyef: Is th->control_stack_start always the highest address in stack space, or is it the address of the bottom-most stack entry?
2014-10-23T14:47:16Z nyef: (Or worse, the address just before/after the bottom-most stack entry)
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2014-10-23T15:08:56Z stassats: so, does sb-safepoint really not work on os x?
2014-10-23T15:09:39Z fe[nl]ix: how about enabling safepoints by default ?
2014-10-23T15:10:48Z stassats: i think there's still some problems with them
2014-10-23T15:10:51Z stassats: but very rare
2014-10-23T15:11:01Z stassats: and we have to fix the existing gc issues first anyway
2014-10-23T15:11:13Z stassats: i'll go back to it once i'm home, for the next release
2014-10-23T15:11:24Z scymtym: stassats: might be the same as
2014-10-23T15:11:26Z scymtym: lp 1382811
2014-10-23T15:11:27Z specbot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1382811
2014-10-23T15:13:04Z stassats: saw that one, but the sbcl-devel one doesn't
2014-10-23T15:13:28Z stassats: have SIGTRM in it
2014-10-23T15:13:41Z stassats: or SIGRTMIN, whatever
2014-10-23T15:13:56Z stassats: oh, no, it does
2014-10-23T15:16:18Z scymtym: the sbcl-devel one goes further by defining attach_os_thread but the signal number constant issue seems to be in common
2014-10-23T15:16:53Z stassats: why do we need SIGRTMIN?
2014-10-23T15:17:48Z pkhuong: stassats: something about priority in the signal queue
2014-10-23T15:17:50Z fe[nl]ix: maybe the safepoint mechanism uses RT signals ?
2014-10-23T15:18:02Z fe[nl]ix: they have priority over regular signals
2014-10-23T15:18:02Z stassats: should the use of SIGRTMIN be guarded by LISP_FEATURE_WIN32 and not LISP_FEATURE_SB_SAFEPOINT?
2014-10-23T15:18:06Z fe[nl]ix: and are queued
2014-10-23T15:18:22Z stassats: because win32-os.h defines #define SIG_STOP_FOR_GC (SIGRTMIN+1) #define SIG_DEQUEUE (SIGRTMIN+2) #define SIG_THREAD_EXIT (SIGRTMIN+3)
2014-10-23T15:18:28Z pkhuong: stassats: I think we first needed it on linux
2014-10-23T15:18:49Z stassats: but just blocking SIGRTMIN and SIGRTMIN+1 sounds just like a magic number
2014-10-23T15:19:46Z pkhuong: yup, randomly stealing signals ids at some offset from SIGRTMIN feels unsafe
2014-10-23T15:21:35Z stassats: but aren't the real time signals user defined, so you can do whatever?
2014-10-23T15:22:34Z stassats: and it doesn't look like they are used on linux
2014-10-23T15:22:40Z stassats: or anywhere, for that matter
2014-10-23T15:23:35Z stassats: the git log is too squashed to figure it out
2014-10-23T15:38:11Z stassats: failed AVER: (NOT (ZEROP FREE-KV-SLOT))
2014-10-23T15:39:11Z stassats: could be due to concurrent access, but i'm not sure
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2014-10-23T20:25:26Z ams: whom to pester regarding updating binaries of sbcl?
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2014-10-23T20:29:31Z nyef: In terms of "hey, I built an updated version, who do I talk to about getting it uploaded"?
2014-10-23T20:30:19Z ams: that, and "i wanna continue doing that", yes :-)
2014-10-23T20:30:21Z nyef: Or in terms of "why is the latest available MIPSbe version still 1.0.23"?!?
2014-10-23T20:30:32Z ams: nah, that is boriung and lazy
2014-10-23T20:31:49Z ams: this is for openbsd ..
2014-10-23T20:32:03Z nyef: An OpenBSD MIPSbe binary?
2014-10-23T20:32:10Z ams: amd64 rather
2014-10-23T20:32:14Z joshe: oops
2014-10-23T20:32:14Z nyef: Aww.
2014-10-23T20:32:29Z nyef: Oh, right, joshe is our local openbsd guy.
2014-10-23T20:32:32Z joshe: let me guess, you're also one of the people who sent me port updates, right?
2014-10-23T20:32:40Z joshe: I've been totally slacking there
2014-10-23T20:32:43Z ams: joshe: no
2014-10-23T20:32:57Z ams: i wanted to get the binary on sbcl.org updated, i don't use ports.
2014-10-23T20:33:09Z joshe: I didn't think anyone used to openbsd binaries on sbcl.org, to be honest
2014-10-23T20:33:23Z joshe: huh
2014-10-23T20:33:29Z joshe: you build everything from source?
2014-10-23T20:33:37Z nyef: Well, they're in better shape than the FreeBSD binaries. (-:
2014-10-23T20:33:45Z ams: yes, since then i can get the same things on multiple platforms
2014-10-23T20:34:25Z ams: and not much .. just emacs and sbcl .. :-)
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2014-10-23T20:34:48Z joshe: I suppose I can build an amd64 binary for 5.4 right now, since I actually run releases on my work machine
2014-10-23T20:35:07Z ams: any reason why not 5.5?
2014-10-23T20:35:35Z joshe: I usually don't bother building releases before they're up on the ftp mirrors
2014-10-23T20:35:43Z joshe: oh wait, off by one
2014-10-23T20:35:55Z joshe: 5.6 is the one that's tagged but not offically released yet :)
2014-10-23T20:35:59Z ams: 5.5 is since may ... :-)
2014-10-23T20:36:21Z joshe: so yes, I'm running 5.5 here
2014-10-23T20:37:27Z ams: awesome
2014-10-23T20:37:42Z ams: i'm using the sbcl binaries since then i don't have to get clisp up and running ..
2014-10-23T20:38:02Z joshe: yea
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2014-10-23T20:40:02Z joshe: building now
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2014-10-23T20:40:15Z ams: coolies, want me to test anything?
2014-10-23T20:40:37Z joshe: I usually just run the test suite
2014-10-23T20:40:51Z ams: ok, then i can go watch the tellie
2014-10-23T20:41:09Z joshe: somewhere on my todo list is an entry for setting up buildbot for sbcl
2014-10-23T20:41:36Z joshe: it would be nice to be running tests on openbsd for each commit, and to have release tarballs built for me
2014-10-23T20:41:53Z ams: yeah
2014-10-23T20:42:44Z ams: there was a new cl project for setting up vms .. maybe could be of interest, but i forgot the name
2014-10-23T20:43:25Z joshe: setting up VMs is the easy part
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2014-10-23T21:02:18Z nyef: Oh, virtual machines, not the OS.
2014-10-23T21:12:50Z joshe: it's uploaded, but I don't know how to make the link on the platform page work
2014-10-23T21:13:01Z Krystof: some magic on sbcl-page
2014-10-23T21:13:18Z Krystof: send me mail and I'll do it tomorrow
2014-10-23T21:13:43Z joshe: I mean, this url works: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sbcl/files/sbcl/1.2.4/sbcl-1.2.4-x86_64-openbsd55-binary.tar.bz2/download
2014-10-23T21:13:56Z joshe: but the one on the new platform table is: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sbcl/sbcl-1.2.4-x86-64-openbsd55-binary.tar.bz2
2014-10-23T21:13:59Z joshe: which doesn't work
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2014-10-23T21:14:59Z joshe: it's been ages since I last uploaded one of these
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2014-10-23T22:01:26Z ams: coolies :-)
2014-10-23T22:01:27Z ams: thanks!
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2014-10-23T22:02:47Z fe[nl]ix: has anybody seen https://lwn.net/Articles/615086/ ?
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2014-10-23T22:07:16Z nyef: Hrm, remap_anon_pages() looks interesting from a GC perspective.
2014-10-23T22:24:01Z nyef: I definitely like the idea of remap_anon_pages(). Even without the rest, it's something that I could see being very useful.
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