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2014-09-21T01:02:49Z asparagui: i was trying to upgrade to 1.2.3
2014-09-21T01:03:40Z asparagui: i'm getting a fail on the asdf-install spot similar to http://sourceforge.net/p/sbcl/mailman/sbcl-devel/thread/46AB1EA5.7050309@gentoo.org/
2014-09-21T01:10:51Z asparagui: os x with the latest dev tools
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2014-09-21T07:13:33Z Krystof: huh
2014-09-21T07:14:09Z Krystof: seen on emacs-devel, in a discussion about future host environments for emacs: [sbcl] manual says  "Calling Lisp functions from C is sometimes possible, but
2014-09-21T07:14:10Z Krystof: is extremely hackish and poorly supported as of SBCL 0.7.5."
2014-09-21T07:14:15Z Krystof: oops
2014-09-21T07:15:58Z Krystof: still, on the plus side, it proves that some people read the manual
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2014-09-21T11:42:38Z scymtym_: (un)parsing of IPv6 addresses with foreign functions seems to work. only remaining problem (that i am aware of): SB-BSD-SOCKETS:GET-HOST-BY-NAME returns a HOST-ENT structure holding a list of address of the same address family but the underlying POSIX function can return addresses from different address families
2014-09-21T11:44:30Z scymtym_: the only mostly backwards-compatible extension i can think of is returning a second HOST-ENT structure with only IPv6 addresses as a second return value (which would be a terrible match for the underlying concepts in my opinion)
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2014-09-21T12:37:05Z scymtym_: i.e. http://paste.lisp.org/display/143800
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2014-09-21T14:05:02Z Krystof:        The gethostbyname*(), gethostbyaddr*(), herror(), and hstrerror() functions are obsolete.  Applications should  use  getaddrinfo(3),  get‐
2014-09-21T14:05:02Z Krystof:        nameinfo(3), and gai_strerror(3) instead.
2014-09-21T14:05:08Z Krystof: says my man gethostbyname()
2014-09-21T14:05:39Z Krystof: maybe the answer is to have a new API?
2014-09-21T14:07:32Z scymtym_: our GET-HOST-BY-NAME uses getaddrinfo when available
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2014-09-21T14:08:39Z scymtym_: returning two values, one for each address family, kind of is a new API
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2014-09-21T14:09:13Z scymtym_: but we could likely design a much better one, if we didn't care about backwards compatibility
2014-09-21T14:09:58Z scymtym_: i would prefer structures or even classes to represent addresses, for example
2014-09-21T14:11:00Z Krystof: yes
2014-09-21T14:11:19Z Krystof: the analogue to getaddrinfo() would return a list of socket instances suitable for passing to socket-connect, no?
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2014-09-21T14:12:17Z scymtym_: a list of address instances, i think
2014-09-21T14:13:00Z scymtym_: or something like endpoint instances since addrinfo includes the protocol
2014-09-21T14:18:36Z Krystof: yes, sorry
2014-09-21T14:18:58Z Krystof: except that maybe we want to avoid pointless traps like requiring the right family of socket to be bound to the right kind of addrinfo
2014-09-21T14:19:22Z Krystof: but somehow this afternoon is turning into a cross between strange origami and javascript programming
2014-09-21T14:19:25Z Krystof: my brain is not in the right place
2014-09-21T14:20:35Z scymtym_: i don't want to attempt this kind of API redesign now either
2014-09-21T14:21:08Z scymtym_: my goal is basic backwards compatibly IPv6 for usocket to use
2014-09-21T14:22:10Z scymtym_: when will the freeze happen this month?
2014-09-21T14:23:15Z Krystof: uh, probably this evening
2014-09-21T14:23:18Z Krystof: thank you for reminding me
2014-09-21T14:23:22Z Krystof: contribs can be updated during freeze, though
2014-09-21T14:24:46Z scymtym_: ok, didn't know that
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