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The comments in make-host-2 say: 19:43:13 # In some cases, a debugging build of the system will creates a core 19:43:16 # file output/after-xc.core in the next step. 19:43:23 How can I make a run of make-host-2 be one of those cases? 19:44:05 :sb-after-xc-core feature 19:44:21 thank you 19:50:18 https://gist.github.com/9195638 normally sbcl is really fast for me, but this gets bad performance compared to ccl. clisp levels almost. 19:50:38 jaimef: and where is sbcl faster? 19:50:43 that is not a test case 19:50:49 s/faster/slower/ 19:52:01 well say https://gist.github.com/9195693 19:52:20 sbcl yets easily double the performance of anything else. 19:52:32 just trying to figure out why this one case it's closer to clisp 19:52:33 i need a test which doesn't have (ql:quickload :drakma) (ql:quickload :cl-ppcre) (ql:quickload :bordeaux-threads) 19:55:22 jaimef: did you already profile it? 20:00:50 are you doing something like spawning 10000 threads? 20:01:50 leuler: I will work on a simple thing 20:04:16 Krystof: can I set breakpoints programmatically in sbcl's code that cause gdb to interrupt the process? 20:05:03 http://paste.lisp.org/display/141354 That's where I'm currently at 20:10:12 krzysz00 [~krzys@76.78.130.17] has joined #sbcl 20:11:13 you can break at particular addresses 20:11:19 e.g. break *0x1234deadbeef 20:11:43 I would expect make-hash-table to need some kind of floating point 20:12:06 I figured that gdb would break at the offending location anyway because of the sigsegv 20:12:23 It happens in < 20:14:07 Before I do anything further for floating point progress, I would like to have nyef look at my register/instruction code. 20:14:32 fields of hash table structures are defined as having type (single-float (0.0) 1.0) 20:14:47 in order for sbcl to check arguments, it's going to need to be able to do floating point comparisons 20:16:26 that's a problem :) 20:16:55 can you just put single-float or even t instead? 20:16:56 we commented out pretty much everything that has to do with floating point values 20:17:09 that won't help I gutess 20:17:15 -t 20:17:25 look on the bright side 20:17:28 you can make function calls 20:17:37 now it's just a matter of sorting out the 90% that's the fiddly details 20:18:08 Hello. 20:18:23 I came here from GSoC. 20:19:19 I was thinking of doing the Unicode project, but that's a huge rabbit hole, now that I've started looking. 20:19:30 Who would I need to talk to about that? 20:27:01 Well, then I'll try to continue with the floating point stuff. 20:27:13 I was thinking (someone let me know if this is a really dumb idea) that we define a character to be one or more code points and store NFD. 20:30:17 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:34 Is this a bad time? 20:34:45 you probably just need to be patient 20:35:43 Good point. 20:35:53 People are probably at work/in class. 20:36:09 /in bed 20:37:04 depending on the time zone :) 20:37:31 Ah, timezones. 20:49:24 -!- krzysz00 [~krzys@76.78.130.17] has left #sbcl 20:52:14 danlentz [~danlentz@c-68-37-70-235.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 21:10:07 whoops 21:10:12 our first customer 21:10:24 on the other hand, this community is already full of Christophes 21:12:42 :) 21:15:35 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-165-234.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:32 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-129-173.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 21:17:57 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.118.206] has joined #sbcl 21:20:34 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:23:26 brown [user@nat/google/x-rwmyhbpskzprfdlv] has joined #sbcl 21:23:50 -!- brown is now known as Guest79070 21:24:35 -!- fiveop [~fiveop@p5DDC79F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 21:35:41 -!- ASau [~user@p5083D401.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:44:51 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.118.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:49:23 ASau [~user@p5083D401.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #sbcl 21:55:54 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:56 -!- leuler [~user@p548FA49A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.1.2 $Revision: 1.796.2.6 $ (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:19:16 krzysz00 [~krzys@76.78.130.17] has joined #sbcl 22:22:07 drmeister [~drmeister@166.170.23.254] has joined #sbcl 22:33:31 ltbarcly [~textual@216.113.168.135] has joined #sbcl 22:34:36 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@216.113.168.135] has quit [Client Quit] 22:37:04 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.170.23.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:45:08 drmeister [~drmeister@166.170.23.254] has joined #sbcl 22:59:39 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.170.23.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]