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-> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734962 10:00:06 The error line looks like -> touch: setting times of `docstrings/': No such file or directory 10:01:53 -!- crixus [~Rob@135-23-80-105.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:19:33 <|3b|> problem seems to be that debian packages have asdf in sbcl, as well as a separate cl-asdf package, and the latter installs it in the asdf search path, so asdf thinks it should try to upgrade, but in this case the cl-asdf was older so it errors instead 10:21:05 <|3b|> seems to be mostly fault of debian packages (not sure if it should drop the sbcl asdf, fix dependencies so cl-asdf gets upgraded, not install cl-asdf to search path, or what though) 10:33:48 -!- kludge` [~comet@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:37:25 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:38:50 kludge` [~comet@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined #sbcl 10:41:50 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.68.184] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:19:25 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:39:13 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 11:44:01 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:17:15 |3b|: I upgraded the cl-asdf and it built. but asdf should be able ot figure this out for itself, surely? 12:19:43 lintian gives this on building-> E: sbcl: interpreter-in-usr-local usr/lib/sbcl/contrib/sb-aclrepl.fasl #!/usr/local/src/sbcl/sbcl-1.1.14/src/runtime/sbcl 12:19:52 and a bunch more messages 12:33:25 the interpreter is clearly that locally available during build time. suggestions for fixing this? 12:57:59 <|3b|> asdf figuring things out is the problem. search for "You are using ASDF version 3.0.3" in the build log from that bug report, and read the stuff there about why it thinks it is an error 12:58:28 *|3b|* has no idea what that lintian thing means though 13:01:22 <|3b|> looking into it, i suspect that isn't a problem in practice, since you shouldn't be running sbcl contrib .fasl files from the command line anyway 13:01:51 <|3b|> possibly it should have a better path there anyway though 13:02:26 <|3b|> you'll probably have to wait for an actual sbcl dev to find out if they consider it a bug or not 13:02:33 |3b|: yes, i don't know about the lintian error. 13:03:18 |3b|: yes, i believe that asdf figuring things out is the problem. i've run into this before. 13:04:33 <|3b|> i think the lintian message means it found something it thinks is a script, and it uses a #! line with an executable in /usr/local instead of /usr. that seems like a reasonable thing to object to in scripts installed by system packages 13:05:51 <|3b|> those aren't exactly scripts, so it isn't as much of a problem in practice, but it would be reasonable for debian maintainers to fix it just to be cleaner 13:06:06 *|3b|* isn't sure if it would be as reasonable for sbcl devs to care though :) 13:06:52 |3b|: i could write a patch if i had an idea how to 13:06:56 <|3b|> depends on whether that is actually the path that "should" be there according to the way sbcl defines .fasl files, or if it is just an artifact of the way the package was built or something 13:07:07 |3b|: true 13:07:12 <|3b|> were you building with a debian sbcl package? 13:07:25 <|3b|> building using a debian installed sbcl i mean 13:07:34 |3b|: yes 13:07:46 i often backport sbcl from unstable to stable 13:07:57 and new versions appear in unstable, i upgrade 13:08:08 i do that with a lot of "leaf" packages 13:08:13 <|3b|> if you do "which sbcl" it isn't under /usr/local? 13:08:19 though i don't actually use CL much at the moment 13:08:43 |3b|: no, it is the previous binary installation, so always /usr/bin 13:09:01 i don't generally do local installs if i can help it 13:09:01 <|3b|> you actually verified that now though? 13:09:23 <|3b|> (just making sure you didn't do one previously and forgot or something) 13:09:46 |3b|: i've only got one script in /usr/local/bin 13:10:13 |3b|: the path in that lintian warning is clearly coming from inside the build 13:10:20 <|3b|> yeah, i guess so 13:10:21 the /usr/local/src/sbcl/sbcl-1.1.14/ is where i am building sbcl 13:10:26 <|3b|> right 13:11:53 LiamH [~none@96.231.223.200] has joined #sbcl 13:12:16 |3b|: i suggested publicly that debian CL packages should look to a global ASDF like the Debian cl-asdf, rather than a local installation. but Fare was not happy with that. 13:12:47 the former would generally be consistent with how debian handles things. they don't like locally installed copies of stuff 13:13:32 *|3b|* is afk again for a while, but probably need to wait for an sbcl dev for more input on the #! path in contrib .fasls anyway 13:13:41 |3b|: ok 13:27:11 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-168-133.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:27:34 what we're doing is wrong, I think 13:27:38 fixing might be tedious 13:27:55 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 13:28:38 when we're building contribs, we should be putting the to-be-installed pathname at the top of the script 13:29:47 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-182-15.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 13:32:35 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:36:30 crud 13:36:32 http://www.advogato.org/person/crhodes/diary/162.html 13:36:49 can anyone think what observations I might have wanted to talk about at the end of this post? 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