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What's a good way to find out the sbcl home directory from within a running SBCL? 15:06:58 sb-int:sbcl-homedir-pathname looks promising but it doesn't seem to be external in a public package 15:08:02 that's the only way 15:08:17 Thanks. 15:08:25 i could export it from sb-ext, but that wouldn't help you 15:08:36 No? 15:08:54 your code will get broken on older sbcls 15:09:31 Not an issue for this particular project 15:09:56 I can use sb-int now and use something else when the time comes 15:12:34 I wonder whether we should export a tranlation of "SYS:HOME;" for that 15:14:53 That sounds nice. 15:19:13 then at least you could write code that degrades gracefully 15:19:42 well, you always can. "nice code that degrades gracefully" 15:28:03 Hydan [~ERC@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #sbcl 15:43:06 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 15:51:18 -!- Hydan [~ERC@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:00:48 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:07:30 Hydan [~ERC@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #sbcl 16:07:40 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 16:17:02 -!- milosn_ is now known as milosn 16:18:21 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:16 -!- kwmiebach [~kwmiebach@xdsl-87-79-46-226.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:26:37 kwmiebach [~kwmiebach@xdsl-87-79-214-157.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 17:02:30 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:04:05 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:09:30 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 17:10:24 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.102.67] has joined #sbcl 17:11:42 -!- tylergoza [~quassel@64.178.232.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:29 dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-251.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 17:19:12 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 17:25:18 hi. i've pasted in all the japanese translations of the in-game messages in 2x0ng. emacs is now saving the files as Unicode which seems fine. the game works and the japanese sazanami TTF font is loaded, however the text encoding seems wrong for those characters because what's displayed is garbage (although digits seem to come through fine). i wonder if i should save the source files in a different encoding? or maybe passing unicode to 17:25:18 SBCL isn't the right thing? 17:29:59 -!- asedeno [~asedeno@66.102.14.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:53 "as Unicode"? 17:40:59 specifically what encoding? 17:42:06 asedeno [~asedeno@66.102.14.24] has joined #sbcl 17:43:19 Krystof_: sorry yes. emacs it says UTF8-unix 17:43:58 and lispbuilder-sdl claims to handle utf8 fine, so i'm wondering if it's the font. i'm googling and digging in the lispbuilder-sdl-ttf source 17:47:05 scymtym [~user@ip-5-147-115-29.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #sbcl 17:49:15 http://i.imgur.com/UiCuxrF.png i can see that ascii characters seem to come through. 17:52:24 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:53:18 rapidly, I'd guess that strings are converted to char * as utf-8, while sdl wants arrays of either 2 or 4 byte values. 17:55:46 the lispbuilder-sdl-ttf font example seems to say utf8 will work. 17:55:49 hmm. i'm digging 17:55:50 dto: my experience with lispbuilder is that UTF only work with some fiddling. 17:56:00 samskulls: what sort of fiddling? 17:56:26 do i have to tell SBCL that a foo.lisp source file is uth8? 17:56:29 utf8? 17:56:29 I'm checking my projects. brb 17:56:33 thanks samskulls . 17:57:36 http://imgur.com/a/GfoP1 this is how the static images look thus far. 17:57:57 I only vaguely how or why I came to this solution, but look at "defmethod lispbuilder-sdl::_render-string-solid_": https://github.com/SamSkulls/typing/blob/master/typing.lisp 17:59:07 hmmmm 18:00:54 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 18:01:09 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 18:01:50 dto: looks like when that library says "unicode", it means utf-16 or ucs-2. There are other routines that handle utf8 18:07:22 hmmm 18:21:21 pkhuong: it works ! 18:21:23 i'll make a screenshot shortly :) 18:29:09 thanks so much for your help, pkhuong and samskulls 18:30:19 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 18:35:29 now uploading screenies 18:35:53 http://imgur.com/a/L9IbO 18:40:00 chris_l [~quassel@p5091E019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #sbcl 18:40:42 davazp [~user@178.167.221.105.threembb.ie] has joined #sbcl 18:50:27 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:03 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 19:04:32 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:11:08 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:21:23 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 19:42:42 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.200.11.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:44:27 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:47:05 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 19:52:30 hmm. pkhuong, i'm running the Windows version of sbcl 1.1.9, and it barfs on the unicode characters. "the octet sequence #(129) cannot be decoded." but i was using sbcl 1.1.9 on linux too (just double checked versions) 19:52:46 i wonder if the windows version is expecting something different 19:55:29 (running the windows version under Wine as per my usual build routine 19:55:41 dto: that doesn't look like utf-8. 19:58:40 nonetheless Emacs reports the file is utf-8 and so does the unix file command 20:00:36 and linux sbcl didn't barf on it. hmmmm 20:01:44 check sb-impl::*default-external-format. 20:02:17 it might be defaulting to ascii. 20:02:27 :CP1252 20:02:44 yeah whereas it's :UTF-8 on linux 20:02:52 can i just setf that? 20:03:35 Yes... 20:03:39 cool. ok trying. 20:03:43 thanks so much for your help pkhuong . 20:03:58 Hmmm, is that the right solution? 20:04:03 -!- Guest85324 is now known as reb 20:04:07 -!- reb is now known as brown 20:04:10 Guest85324: nope. but it works in a pinch. 20:04:36 -!- brown is now known as Guest67271 20:04:42 -!- Guest67271 is now known as reb 20:05:01 works fine . 20:09:44 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-gspkawarppmdlkch] has joined #sbcl 20:13:30 -!- Hydan [~ERC@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:53 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:03 -!- chris_l [~quassel@p5091E019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:47 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 21:22:32 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-243-143-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:42:05 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.102.67] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:48:06 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:04:21 -!- davazp [~user@178.167.221.105.threembb.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:13:06 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-gspkawarppmdlkch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:38:08 -!- echo-area [~user@111.196.4.210] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39:33 -!- dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-251.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:40:12 dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-251.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 22:47:50 echo-area [~user@111.196.4.210] has joined #sbcl 22:58:23 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 23:02:38 davazp [~user@31.200.186.27] has joined #sbcl 23:16:30 -!- Xach [~xach@pdpc/supporter/professional/xach] has left #sbcl