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quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39:11 i have a method, into the body of it i added (/ 1 0) (in a place where its value is never needed), just because i'm testing the error handling code, but the method doesn't error. if i replace the (/ 1 0) with (error "foo"), i get an error as i'd expect. 11:39:37 so sbcl is simply not executing the /, since i never use the return vaule, and so it's never hitting the division by zero. 11:40:01 is that correct? (i don't have any problems with this behaviour, i was a little surprised and want to make sure i understand what's going on) 11:40:43 that sounds likely 11:41:25 thanks. 11:41:31 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 11:41:38 if you want to test handling of division by zero errors, you can use (error 'division-by-zero) :-) 11:41:44 / is unsafely-flushable 11:41:53 safety 3 will get you your error 11:44:40 hm, (error 'division-by-zero) sounds like exactly what i sholud have been using. 11:44:46 stassats: good to know, thanks. 11:47:33 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:55:30 <|3b|> does ARITHMETIC-ERROR-OPERATION return the correct results for (/ 1 0)? 11:56:14 <|3b|> spec isn't clear, says "a function designator" one place, "arithmetic-error-operation returns a list of the offending operation" another, sbcl returns SB-KERNEL::DIVISION which is neither 11:58:15 <|3b|> and (/ 1 0.0) returns NIL and apparently doesn't initialize the operands slot at all 12:02:00 <|3b|> (/ 1 x) also fails to initializes operands when x is 0.0, but initializes it when x is 0 12:02:43 0.0 div-by-zero is a floating point exception, 0 is a check for zero 12:06:39 tylergoza [~quassel@72.29.34.246] has joined #sbcl 12:09:31 -!- davazp [~user@178.167.162.217.threembb.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:10:29 <|3b|> (expt 2.0 1000) also sets OPERATION to NIL and doesn't bind OPERANDS 12:10:50 <|3b|> s/bind/initialize/ 12:12:06 yes, none of the floating point exceptions are going to do that 12:14:19 *|3b|* notes that ""SLOT-BOUNDP ... must not be used on condition objects" 12:15:16 *|3b|* also wonders if the 'unbound condition slot' error should be SLOT-UNBOUND instead of SIMPLE-ERROR, assuming it should happen at all 12:19:43 <|3b|> DEFINE-CONDITION might say it shouldn't happen, "If no slot form is supplied, the contents of the slot is initialized in an implementation-dependent way." 12:20:06 <|3b|> but then it also has the :initarg/:initform stuff 12:22:23 DIV/IDIV signal a DE exception too, so, so in DIV X, X will be 0 and RAX will have the dividend 12:23:03 can zero tests can be avoided, what's left is form mapping 12:23:46 *|3b|* is confused by the "slot name/slot" form stuff in define-condition 12:24:46 <|3b|> multiple slot-spec, which can be (slot-name slot-option) where slot-name can be a list of slot name/slot-form pairs 12:25:20 <|3b|> so is ((name1 form1 name2 form2) :initform 123) valid? if so what does it mean? 12:26:44 the exception should have an address where it happened, so the form generated it could be determined 12:27:25 and say DIVSS XMM2, XMM1 can be noted in the debug fun as a possible source of exceptions, XMM2 and XMM1 can be noted and then pried out of the exception context 12:27:52 *stassats* is not excited to work on that, though 12:29:35 <|3b|> ah, i guess it does allow for unspecified consequences for reading an unbound condition slot, so does seem to be possible... not sure if it would be better to have an unbound slot or something like :unknown-arguments as a default value for ARITHMETIC-ERRORs though 12:29:37 though that's a good way to more acquainted with debug-funs 12:30:18 <|3b|> (assuming it isn't possible or worth the effort to get correct values) 12:30:39 it's possible, but there are probably better things to do 12:32:34 <|3b|> yeah 12:43:52 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-165-148.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 12:47:37 <|3b|> lp#396974 12:47:49 <|3b|> looks like the unbound slot is already reported 12:48:06 lp 396974 12:48:06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/396974 12:48:27 <|3b|> ah, space not # 12:48:53 all specbot commands are separate by a space 12:49:01 <|3b|> yeah, makes sense 12:49:13 not that it can't be changed 12:49:24 there should be a special hell reserved for people who tag bugs "easy" on launchpad 12:49:25 it can even weed out it from messages lp#123 12:49:29 could 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