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There are issues on RISC platforms. 14:25:21 <_8hzp> Pesky assembler routines or something. nyef might recall. 14:26:05 Not recalling offhand, I'm afraid. 14:26:15 What does sb-dynamic-core do? 14:31:19 <_8hzp> no more non-linkage-table fixups. genesis prepares a list of needed symbols, and the C runtime does the lookup of those on startup. 14:34:05 First thing that comes to mind is that some platforms might not have working linkage-table. 14:35:23 You'd also have to audit the various backends (both VOPs and assembly-routines) for references to foreign symbols. 14:35:31 hm. so on sb-dynamic-core, the value of nil is no longer a compile-time constant? 14:36:03 doesn't that have a pretty severe performance penalty? 14:36:12 <_8hzp> foom: sorry, I didn't mean symbol in the CL sense, but the system linker sense 14:36:38 <_8hzp> this is sbcl(.exe) relocation, not static-space relocation 14:37:01 what's the impact on startup times? 14:37:05 ah, okay. 14:38:36 i haven't noticed an slow-downs 14:50:13 how does one enable :sb-dynamic-core ? there's no mention of it in base-target-features.lisp-expr 14:50:29 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #sbcl 14:50:50 just enable the feature 14:53:50 ok 15:38:15 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:02:48 sdemarre [~serge@109.134.141.51] has joined #sbcl 16:11:10 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #sbcl 16:13:37 benkard [~benkard@dhcp-138-246-108-187.dynamic.eduroam.mwn.de] has joined #sbcl 16:28:16 kanru` [~kanru@114-36-4-154.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #sbcl 16:42:11 flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has joined #sbcl 16:44:20 Guest160` [user@nat/google/x-iufbgqsdfjmoalxd] has joined #sbcl 16:45:38 -!- benkard [~benkard@dhcp-138-246-108-187.dynamic.eduroam.mwn.de] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Throw the following form into a file, then compile-file it: (defun foo (&optional bar) (declare (type (member :foo :bar) bar)) (declare (ignore bar))) 21:13:46 nothing unexpected happens 21:14:38 Hrm. Must have been fixed recently, I get something about dumping an invalid structure, but I'm running 1.1.5.23. 21:14:45 it is fixed 21:14:49 lp 943953 21:14:49 Okay, thanks. 21:14:50 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/943953 21:15:56 Now I can go back to fighting with S-SQL again. 21:17:45 drmeister [~drmeister@d50-92-58-96.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #sbcl 21:26:33 -!- pnpuff [~wff@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:29:33 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:52:04 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:54 -!- nyef_ [~nyef@c-50-157-244-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: G'night all.] 22:12:46 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:18:45 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #sbcl 22:24:50 -!- asedeno_ is now known as asedeno 22:47:18 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-5f75fccf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:17:35 wbooze_ [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-151-232.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 23:17:36 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-189-188.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:35:11 -!- Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]