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I'm trying to understand the compiler and compile-file's traces are... kind of inconvenient. 04:20:09 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.126.217] has joined #sbcl 04:31:17 -!- LiamH [~none@pool-74-96-4-63.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:31:22 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.126.217] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:33:09 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:39:26 -!- Tuxedo [~tuxedo@bas3-cooksville17-3096516824.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:45:02 dtw [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has joined #sbcl 05:16:56 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #sbcl 05:18:10 mornin' 05:18:18 (or evenin') 05:34:22 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:43:03 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #sbcl 05:44:27 -!- erikc [~erikc@CPE00222d53fe78-CM00222d53fe75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: erikc] 05:52:18 Bike: you can put a breakpoint somewhere in the compiler (I can't remember where) and then use printing functions on *component-being-compiled* or *current-component* or whatever it's called 05:52:24 that is a bit vague, sorry 05:52:53 that sounds like an adventure 05:53:36 it is called *current-component* 05:54:17 and the breakpoing is probably on compile-component 06:13:19 http://pastebin.com/YiP0rbm7 So as long as I'm doing this... why does it check EBP and FS:[#x20] like that? 06:25:04 Bike: looks like per-pthread data to me. 06:25:11 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d01223e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 06:25:23 ie. thread-local. 06:27:34 I thought fs was where thread-local stuff was? 06:32:42 Aren't you talking about FS:[#x20]? 06:33:31 yeah. 06:33:53 So what's the misunderstanding? 06:34:21 I thought FS:[#x20] was thread-local, so there's no way it'll be modified by another thread. 06:34:52 umm, why not? just give one thread a pointer to it ... 06:35:21 AFAIK the per-thread data is in a specific place on FS, but in normal linear memory at the same time ... 06:35:31 so it can be modified by pointers as usual 06:35:44 but I might be wrong, of course. 06:46:36 toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 06:46:46 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #sbcl 07:05:02 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13:09 foreignFunction1 [~niksaak@94.27.88.212] has joined #sbcl 07:13:50 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.89.199] has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:13:58 -!- foreignFunction1 is now known as foreignFunction 07:15:15 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.88.212] has quit [Client Quit] 07:16:26 foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.88.212] has joined #sbcl 07:17:36 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 07:19:30 Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192093.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has joined #sbcl 07:23:18 ASau [~user@p5797FF8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 07:25:01 tcr1 [~tcr@46-126-110-164.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 07:25:59 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29:02 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 07:31:12 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.11.211] has joined #sbcl 07:31:13 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.11.211] has quit [Changing host] 07:31:13 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 07:40:17 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-70.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41:44 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:43:16 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192093.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 07:44:08 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:46:19 minion: memo for Bike: allocation sequences can't be interrupted (because the GC gets confused). Instead, we set a bit in the thread struct. [RE]BP is used to clear that bit because it's always aligned. 07:46:20 Remembered. I'll tell Bike when he/she/it next speaks. 07:49:17 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #sbcl 07:49:55 Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192093.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has joined #sbcl 07:52:46 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 07:58:09 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192093.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:59:04 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 08:00:05 -!- dtw [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:01:02 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Client Quit] 08:03:02 Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has joined #sbcl 08:18:43 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 08:35:49 Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has joined #sbcl 09:24:48 -!- Ralt [Ralt@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:6c69] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:25:37 Ralt [Ralt@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:6c69] has joined #sbcl 09:28:27 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: ] 09:33:27 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@46-126-110-164.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:33:55 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 09:34:18 Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has joined #sbcl 09:36:12 stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 09:52:25 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #sbcl 10:06:44 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 10:36:27 leoc [~leoc.git@p4FF79EE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 10:59:51 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01:43 LiamH [~none@pool-74-96-4-63.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 11:12:06 -!- LiamH [~none@pool-74-96-4-63.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:12:49 Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has joined #sbcl 11:18:05 segv- [~mb@95-91-241-87-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #sbcl 11:18:46 I must say that I like the prettyness of SBCL's warnings: 11:18:55 "The function was called with four arguments, but wants exactly one thousand eight hundred forty-seven." 11:19:04 i'm using sb-vm::map-allocated-objects to try and collect some stats about how many and what knid of objects are on the heap; i seem to be getting memory corruption pretty often. 11:19:16 is there anything particular one should avoid in the callback passed to map-allocated-objects ? 11:19:24 loke: that's easy with ~r 11:19:30 I'm wondering, however, why the numbers only render as text in the style warnings. When it's a real error, it comes out as numbers. 11:19:32 (i don't expect this code to be perfectly safe and run cleanly every time) 11:20:06 map-allocated-objects runs without gcing, so, avoid consing 11:20:44 segv-: and try to avoid keeping references to the objects you find. 11:21:07 stassats`: i'm pretty sure (though there's obviously something i don't understand going on) that i've managed to element all consing (by pre alloctating all the data i need) 11:21:12 pkhuong: ah, really? 11:21:20 that's certainly something i'm doing. 11:25:24 pkhuong: do you think keeping a reference to the return value of type-of is ok? 11:26:47 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.88.212] has left #sbcl 11:28:00 I'm pretty sure there are chances you'll get references to bogus objects. 11:39:44 danlentz [~danlentz@c-68-37-70-235.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 12:01:18 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@089144192070.atnat0001.highway.a1.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 12:04:18 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-70.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 12:09:17 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.178.16.33] has joined #sbcl 12:09:17 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.178.16.33] has quit [Changing host] 12:09:17 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #sbcl 12:39:47 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-70.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:53 LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #sbcl 13:01:37 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-241-87-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:17:09 nyef [~nyef@c-76-119-183-159.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 13:27:19 segv- [~mb@95-91-241-87-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #sbcl 13:29:58 sbcl's type-of won't allocate memory will it? (looking at the code i can't really see how it would, but maybe i'm missing something) 13:31:45 I'd expect it to cons when the type name is not a symbol but a list 13:31:47 it may allocate: (type-of "asd") => (SIMPLE-ARRAY CHARACTER (3)) 13:32:42 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-196-165.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 13:33:45 oh. 13:33:48 back to the drawing board then. 13:34:43 see if you can turn that into a typecase instead. 13:34:52 drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 13:35:11 pkhuong: i'm trying to count the number of instances of a given class on the heap, so i don't really know the name of the type before hand 13:35:20 (though i could just generate a gargantuam typecase) 13:35:31 or use class-of. 13:40:42 pkhuong: i'm calling this function repeatably on a number of different class objects: http://paste.lisp.org/display/136605 13:40:53 and every single time i manage to exhaust the heap 13:41:02 does anythnig in that code look totally stupid to you? 13:41:51 is make-object-type-stat a structure? 13:41:55 yes 13:42:01 good 13:42:31 i tried it also just with let vars and still managed to run out of memory 13:46:07 don't you have to declare something dynamic-extent there ? 13:46:28 no 13:46:31 or what is :dynamic mean ? 13:46:43 the part of teh heap i want to walk over 13:46:45 you could first use set CAREFUL to T 13:47:09 right, i didn't mean to remove taht. 13:48:45 ok, that looks much better. 13:49:00 I don't think that 82 is right though. 13:49:48 pkhuong: with the class-of check it's probably redundant anyway. 13:50:12 redundant as in always nil. 13:50:36 pkhuong: no, it's T pretty often 13:50:46 i get into the body of that when 13:52:53 ah 32 bit 13:56:21 pkhuong: yeah 13:56:48 Why a bare 82 rather than a named constant? 13:56:50 pkhuong: but it wolud seem that careful t is protecting me from whatever i was doing wrong 13:57:20 nyef: no good reason at all. this code was much much uglier and i've been cutting away bits and pieces, the 82 is cruft. 13:57:39 Ah, okay. 13:59:20 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:59:30 segv-: also, if they're CLOS instances, the size won't tell you much. 14:04:53 pkhuong: just so i don't waste too much time here, is map-allocated-objects the right tool to be using here? 14:05:34 (if one wants to try and see if some piece of code is generating too many instances of a partcular object) 14:07:32 segv-: I'd instrument somewhere in CLOS's allocation machinery and count. 14:07:57 that way you could even grab backtraces from time to time 14:08:19 luis` [~luis@nhop.r42.eu] has joined #sbcl 14:09:48 (and now, back to writing constraints with vector-indexed variables. 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